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HGF69
08-15-2013, 10:43 AM
A faction member who's not on here wants to know what buildings give the biggest increase to get his iph up. I remember a thread said start with the AC but I don't think he has it.

Tried searching for iph but its too short a search.

Thanks

lemonhaze
08-15-2013, 11:00 AM
if they dont have the AMR or AC..start with the 14hr builds..i have increased mine from 4.4m to 6.6m in last 45 days doing these..i like the tarta first then the towers..the towers dont pay as much as the tartas tho..also the barracks and currah..

bergmystr
08-15-2013, 11:02 AM
Depends on the building he has. As a rule of thumb the biggest income jumps will be your 48, 24, 12 (to an extent).

You need to keep in mind that there is a difference between simple IPH as shown in your profile, and real income based on how often you collect. A supply depot will ramp up your IPH, but in reality if you don't collect that every 5 minutes it is just a fictitious number.

As noted above stick with 48,24,12 hour buildings. I generally do the most expensive one i can afford at the time, and ALWAYS have something upgrading. It doesn't make sense to let your base sit with nothing upgrading for a couple hours while you save up. Even if you only need an extra hour or two to hit the building you want, there is probably a guard tower laying around somewhere that you could make just a bit stronger while you wait to collect enough money.

& The Horse U Rode In On
08-15-2013, 11:02 AM
Biggest increase how? If calculated by hourly output it goes nano/taj, space center, geothermal, nuke plant, electric, diamond mine, and oil rig in descending order. Below that is a big drop

Thief
08-15-2013, 11:11 AM
Best Returns AND IPH increase: AV, AMR, AC (however they are also the most expensive)

The more expensive they start off the better the ROI generally is because of the time you are spending to upgrade as well.

I focuse on 48/24/12 in that order (although lately i just focus on the Current LE building because of the units)

So if you have the Queensland Barracks then it would be the first one....but really i wouldn't try to get that one any higher than the others....lvl them up together if your not going to go for the LE prizes.

iZheil9152
08-15-2013, 11:34 AM
All money Buildings' IPH:
Keep in mind this is the IPH for LVL 10, if you want level 1 take [(income of lvl 10)/30]
Try and upgrade the buildings you have closest to the top first

(most LE Buildings have a higher IPH than the nanotech)
Nanotech Factory $8333.33
*Taj Mahal* $8333.33
Space Center $5321.50
Nuclear Power Plant $4166.66
Electric Power Plant $4000
Oil Rig $3645.83
Chemical Plant $2083.33
Oil Refinery $1041.66
Satellite Array $1000
Desalination Plant $875
Recycling Plant $750
Supply Depot $600
Ore Mine $583.33
Steel Mill $466.66
Storage Silo $450
Communication Center $433.33
Armory $400
Natural Gas Plant $388.88
Oil Derrick $316.66
Weapons Factory $312.50
Military Market $291.66
Wind Farm $266.66
Munition Stockpile $250
Command Center $208.30
Sorry I did not add Gold buildings, I might go back and add in the future

Rade
08-15-2013, 11:41 AM
All money Buildings' IPH:
Keep in mind this is the IPH for LVL 10, if you want level 1 take [(income of lvl 10)/30]
Try and upgrade the buildings you have closest to the top first

(most LE Buildings have a higher IPH than the nanotech)
Nanotech Factory $8333.33
*Taj Mahal* $8333.33
Space Center $5321.50
Nuclear Power Plant $4166.66
Electric Power Plant $4000
Oil Rig $3645.83
Chemical Plant $2083.33
Oil Refinery $1041.66
Satellite Array $1000
Desalination Plant $875
Recycling Plant $750
Supply Depot $600
Ore Mine $583.33
Steel Mill $466.66
Storage Silo $450
Communication Center $433.33
Armory $400
Natural Gas Plant $388.88
Oil Derrick $316.66
Weapons Factory $312.50
Military Market $291.66
Wind Farm $266.66
Munition Stockpile $250
Command Center $208.30
Sorry I did not add Gold buildings, I might go back and add in the future
These numbers are wrong, I think all of them should be doubled.

Commander Bryan
08-15-2013, 11:43 AM
I'm a level 84 player with 735,000 IPH (and a free player). I've been waffling on what to upgrade. The 48 hour buildings are great with the money and cost relatively little to upgrade compared to the Oil Rig. I want to get both Oil Rigs up to level 6 (currently level 5) but they're pretty expensive and with a level 5 Cement Factory cost around $55 million.

Would it be best to upgrade buildings all to level 10 or say...

Ore Mine, level 5 upgrade to level 6.
Then upgrade the second ore mine to level 6 and keep it consistent like that?

Or go for 1 ore mine all the way up to 10?

When upgrade times start reaching 80+ hours I tend to get a little antsy on the time, trying to upgrade all my buildings that take 3 days or less first. But if it'd made more sense to get 1 building to 10 then go for the next all the way to 10... is that better?

I know with long upgrade times that is perfect time to upgrade my vault (currently 48 million) and territory, or put up rail guns or other defensive buildings.

Thief
08-15-2013, 11:48 AM
I'm a level 84 player with 735,000 IPH (and a free player). I've been waffling on what to upgrade. The 48 hour buildings are great with the money and cost relatively little to upgrade compared to the Oil Rig. I want to get both Oil Rigs up to level 6 (currently level 5) but they're pretty expensive and with a level 5 Cement Factory cost around $55 million.

Would it be best to upgrade buildings all to level 10 or say...

Ore Mine, level 5 upgrade to level 6.
Then upgrade the second ore mine to level 6 and keep it consistent like that?

Or go for 1 ore mine all the way up to 10?

When upgrade times start reaching 80+ hours I tend to get a little antsy on the time, trying to upgrade all my buildings that take 3 days or less first. But if it'd made more sense to get 1 building to 10 then go for the next all the way to 10... is that better?

I know with long upgrade times that is perfect time to upgrade my vault (currently 48 million) and territory, or put up rail guns or other defensive buildings.

You won't ever get them all to lvl 10 unless your willing to spend some serious Gold for fast upgrades (and for cash)

Best is to focus on the LE buildings and if you aren't getting an LE prize for the upgrade then upgrade them all together so that you can grow your IPH.

iZheil9152
08-15-2013, 12:00 PM
These numbers are wrong, I think all of them should be doubled.

Oh, Sorry. I was looking at my income per minute list. Here is the max IPH list
Nanotech Factory $500,000
*Taj Mahal* $500,000
Space Center $319,290
Nuclear Power Plant $250,000
Electric Power Plant $240,000
Oil Rig $218,750
Chemical Plant $125,000
Oil Refinery $62,500
Satellite Array $60,000
Desalination Plant $52,500
Recycling Plant $45,000
Supply Depot $36,000
Ore Mine $35,000
Steel Mill $28,000
Storage Silo $27,000
Communication Center $26,000
Armory $24,000
Natural Gas Plant $23,335
Oil Derrick $19,000
Weapons Factory $18,750
Military Market $17,500
Wind Farm $16,000
Munition Stockpile $15,000
Command Center $12,500

S&H Max
08-15-2013, 12:11 PM
For a quick jump also consider the upgrade time, you can upgrade 3 LE from level 1 to 2 in less time than lets say a nano from 4 to 5 (havent check the timing but you understand what I mean.

IPH is exponationnal, the best income you have the easyer it is to raise you IPH quicker

swag
08-15-2013, 12:28 PM
For a quick jump also consider the upgrade time, you can upgrade 3 LE from level 1 to 2 in less time than lets say a nano from 4 to 5 (havent check the timing but you understand what I mean.

IPH is exponationnal, the best income you have the easyer it is to raise you IPH quicker

You should also consider how quickly you break even

A muni might take a long time to upgrade it provides a quick return, something like 3-4 days which could help new players out

The other buildings may be a better income per hour boost but can take a month to break even

elangomatt
08-15-2013, 12:37 PM
I actually maintain a spreadsheet on Google Docs of all of the upgrades that I might consider doing. I don't bother including most of the lesser buildings since I don't really have any plans to upgrade them. I keep track of most of the pertinent stats like current level, next upgrade cost, next upgrade time, current collection amount, next upgrade collection amount, collection time, IPH increase, current IPH, new IPH. That allows me to see what I can afford when I'm ready to start an upgrade and I just update the info on the building that finished upgrading. I also keep track of current level and upgrade cost/time for unit and boost buildings as well. A spreadsheet like this takes a bit of time to build, but once it is done it is easy to maintain and is really helpful.

Ever since they've come out, I have pretty much only been upgrading the LE buildings for money buildings with other boost/unit buildings thrown in. The LE buildings really do give the most IPH bang for your buck if you can afford it.

S&H Max
08-15-2013, 12:54 PM
You should also consider how quickly you break even

A muni might take a long time to upgrade it provides a quick return, something like 3-4 days which could help new players out

The other buildings may be a better income per hour boost but can take a month to break even

Its all a different strategy but at a certain point I would have to disagree with you.

most of the upgrade that pay for themself are on low ends building that sooner or later become obsolete, also vault capacity is a thing to consider, and you also havee to do a ton of boost and unit building upgrade.

My IPH is around 2.8mil/H I'm doing my upgrade 9 on my sea building rigth now, when its done and with donation to my faction I will probably still have around 250mil on my hand... since I will have to vault anyway before next WD I have to spend the money, most of the upgrade you talk about give lower return on IPH therefore will lower the amount I'm able to collect inbetween 2 WDs...

So in my strategy and yours can maybe suit you better. I always try to get the better IPH boost for upgrade time (that I can afford at the moment) if I'm low on cash than I do one of those boost or unit building left to upgrade to 10 (hopefully soon enouph I will be done)

I think its the better way to grow an IPH on short term definitly more if you can riad!

The Monk
08-15-2013, 12:58 PM
Nice thread, very helpful cheers

LisaM
08-15-2013, 01:06 PM
The Toolkit for MW is perfect for this. Free in App Store for iOS.

swag
08-15-2013, 01:07 PM
It all depends on IPH but telling someone with 100k iph to save up for a taj mahal is only going to hurt them in the long run, as they wont have the money to upgrade anything else in meantime.

I think we can all agree that a rule of thumb should be to always be upgrading a building. For players with higher income per hour the limited buildings they can easily make 60m in the time it takes for an upgrade to finish, so obviously they shouldn't upgrade buildings that only boost their income by 2k

However, if a player saves up 2 weeks just to get their first limited building and dont upgrade any other buildings for those 2 weeks they're going to lose out in the long run

Commander Bryan
08-15-2013, 01:17 PM
The Taj Mahal is the first LE I've been able to upgrade. I haven't been able to get any until the Tatra came out, and only got 1 of those. $95 million for a level 2 is a bit steep, even at my IPH. Though I've been trying to save up. I think I can get the Taj Mahal up to a level 4 at least. That might be very difficult if I get raided.

I got rid of all the low end buildings like oil derricks and wind farms and ****. That clutters the base and just seemed to not really add all that to my IPH that I was able to collect on.

I've got 1 Tatra, 2 Queenslands, 2 Absolutes, and 2 Taj Mahals plus all the 12, 18, 24, 48 buildings that don't cost gold. The regular buildings are between level 4 and 5 for them all. With the military market at 9.

One man army
08-15-2013, 04:05 PM
Oh, Sorry. I was looking at my income per minute list. Here is the max IPH list
Nanotech Factory $500,000
*Taj Mahal* $500,000
Space Center $319,290
Nuclear Power Plant $250,000
Electric Power Plant $240,000
Oil Rig $218,750
Chemical Plant $125,000
Oil Refinery $62,500
Satellite Array $60,000
Desalination Plant $52,500
Recycling Plant $45,000
Supply Depot $36,000
Ore Mine $35,000
Steel Mill $28,000
Storage Silo $27,000
Communication Center $26,000
Armory $24,000
Natural Gas Plant $23,335
Oil Derrick $19,000
Weapons Factory $18,750
Military Market $17,500
Wind Farm $16,000
Munition Stockpile $15,000
Command Center $12,500

Is the level of the building counted in this as well or is it just the building itself

Happytrey45
08-15-2013, 06:49 PM
Can you upgrade le buildings after the time has run out?

Rade
08-15-2013, 06:54 PM
Can you upgrade le buildings after the time has run out?
You certainly can! There is no prize awarded to you is all.

JDub
08-15-2013, 09:05 PM
Thanks for all the great info. I've been wondering about this for a while now. Now I have an idea of where to go with my base.

mreilly
08-15-2013, 10:54 PM
The Toolkit for MW is perfect for this. Free in App Store for iOS.

Ive been looking for something similar to this. If it does what i think it does its a big help. I dont get people and their spread sheets lol.

Happytrey45
08-16-2013, 06:13 AM
Thanks that helps a lot

elangomatt
08-16-2013, 06:32 AM
Ive been looking for something similar to this. If it does what i think it does its a big help. I dont get people and their spread sheets lol.
There are a few reasons I use a spreadsheet instead of the MW toolkit. First and foremost, I only have one iOS device and I got sick of going between the game and the toolkit when updating things. It is much easier for me to just update the spreadsheet on a computer in my opinion. Said spreadsheet is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. The second reason is that the toolkit doesn't update as often as it used to since it stopped being able to get updates from the Gree servers. I've also never figured out how to get the toolkit to do bonuses properly, so the upgrade costs wouldn't be accurate even if I did use it and that is the primary piece of data I want to know at a glance. The faction bonuses CAN'T work right since it says level 5 is the max even though it is actually level 6 for most bonuses.

JDub
08-16-2013, 11:09 AM
Is there any kind of toolkit for android? I can't seem to find one.

elangomatt
08-16-2013, 11:20 AM
Is there any kind of toolkit for android? I can't seem to find one.
Nope the toolkit is iOS only.

Butter
08-18-2013, 07:06 AM
I upgrade my 48 hour building as much as possible. I started out upgrading my munitions stockpiles when i was a LLP

candyson
08-18-2013, 08:28 AM
I'm stuck on what to upgrade next.
My oil rigs are level 4
My tatra, two Queenslands, two Taj Mahals, and a nano factory are level 1
My electric power plants are level 3
My vault is 36 million.

S&H Max
08-18-2013, 09:13 AM
tatra and queenslands will give a big return for the upgrade times but also depends if you can afford them, we dont knwo your IPH.;...

candyson
08-18-2013, 09:15 AM
tatra and queenslands will give a big return for the upgrade times but also depends if you can afford them, we dont knwo your IPH.;...
My IPH is 592k and I don't mind raiding some.

DFI
08-18-2013, 10:27 AM
No right or wrong answer, all depends on where you are in the game. Like Thief said, I focus on upgrading whatever the LE is at the moment, but after the free unit period ends, I go back and upgrade my boost buildings while I save up, then upgrade the costliest LE building I have (AMR) or can afford. So in the case of the TM, I doubt I will go back to upgrade it after the free unit period unless I get done with my other LEs that are a better return for me. My nanos and space centers are never higher than lv 1 because I use them as cash. Too long to upgrade vs the LEs. I think I stopped upgrading my non LE cash buildings after the jinai facility came out.

bilyBA
08-18-2013, 11:58 AM
Need to keep in mind amount of time each building will take to upgrade. Not saying it is the only factor but definately needs consideration. I try to get every building to level 4 just because upgrades are so quick till then.

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