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xknite
08-12-2013, 02:31 PM
India Rewards:

#1 - 30% more infantry defense
#2 - 20% more grount attack
#3 - 5% more Alliance attack
Top 10 - 20% more Air defense
Top 25 - 5% health regen
Top 50 - 5% Infantry attack
Top 75 - 2 Additional Valor
Top 100 - 3% more air attack
Top 150 - 5% more Sea defense
Top 250 - 25% more building defense
Top 400 - 5% more Air Defense
Top 500 - 5% more Ground defense
Top 750 - 5% more money
Top 1000 - 1% more Air Attack
Top 1500 - No bonus
Top 4000 - No bonus

Adding all defense bonuses:30+20+5+25+5+5 = 90
Adding Attack bonuses:20+5+5+3+1 = 34

The rewards are skewed towards defenses!
If we discount out the top 3 team prizes, the ratio becomes much worse:
+60% defense increase and +9% attack increase!

The game already is skewed where folks regularly have defenses which are easily 20-30% higher than their attack and this is going to make the game balance worse!
If the goal is such that ppl can no longer attack/raid each other than we should maybe re-christen the game Modern Peace :o

-X

Zulfiqaar
08-12-2013, 02:38 PM
Loool modern peace!!
But im happy with a decent gap between attack and def though

Sakki
08-12-2013, 02:53 PM
I'm with you XKnite!! Total bull**** from GREE! If you want money, place good attack bonuses and let people fight for it.
Who the bloody hell is your analyst?

Joe Op
08-12-2013, 02:54 PM
Hey X
Thanks for bringing this together!
I've realised that since wars! Till know top10 (up to 600 players) where able to get a +3% alliance attack and now even this is reserved to top3!
We have to buy some LE sets! :-)

GREE??????? This is not balanced out AT ALL!! How can we players go on if all your targets during events get to strong? This is unreal and needs correction.

Viva, joe

Joe Op
08-12-2013, 03:01 PM
Oh; i forgot! A 10 crate or a 25 crate event with leaderbord will prob show up soon. Maybee one or two timer resets will do to get the top prize. Then you'll get a + attack unit for sure.

GREEtings! Rock on! Lol....

To let you know; i only go for 10 crate units - if bonus is worth it.

Viva!

spytime
08-12-2013, 04:12 PM
I totally agree with that bonus disparity. It's getting bigger and bigger. GREE should lower these bonus difference.

xknite
08-12-2013, 08:29 PM
My goal is to highlight the disparity in the bonuses and convince Gree to make things equitable, initiate a dialogue, not get into a complaint thread with them.

Gambit12
08-12-2013, 08:50 PM
India Rewards:

#1 - 30% more infantry defense
#2 - 20% more grount attack
#3 - 5% more Alliance attack
Top 10 - 20% more Air defense
Top 25 - 5% health regen
Top 50 - 5% Infantry attack
Top 75 - 2 Additional Valor
Top 100 - 3% more air attack
Top 150 - 5% more Sea defense
Top 250 - 25% more building defense
Top 400 - 5% more Air Defense
Top 500 - 5% more Ground defense


Adding all defense bonuses:30+20+5+25+5+5 = 90
Adding Attack bonuses:20+5+5+3+1 = 34

The rewards are skewed towards defenses!
If we discount out the top 3 team prizes, the ratio becomes much worse:
+60% defense increase and +9% attack increase!

The game already is skewed where folks regularly have defenses which are easily 20-30% higher than their attack and this is going to make the game balance worse!
If the goal is such that ppl can no longer attack/raid each other than we should maybe re-christen the game Modern Peace :o

-X

Yup, my defense stats is getting out of hand too than my attack stats. I shouldn't purchase that Composite Factory back in the days if this issue would happen in the future. Thank goodness my LLP has no Composite Factory & will never ever buy one cause of this Unbalance issue...

heatnet
08-13-2013, 02:38 AM
India Rewards:

#1 - 30% more infantry defense
#2 - 20% more grount attack
#3 - 5% more Alliance attack
Top 10 - 20% more Air defense
Top 25 - 5% health regen
Top 50 - 5% Infantry attack
Top 75 - 2 Additional Valor
Top 100 - 3% more air attack
Top 150 - 5% more Sea defense
Top 250 - 25% more building defense
Top 400 - 5% more Air Defense
Top 500 - 5% more Ground defense
Top 750 - 5% more money
Top 1000 - 1% more Air Attack
Top 1500 - No bonus
Top 4000 - No bonus

Adding all defense bonuses:30+20+5+25+5+5 = 90
Adding Attack bonuses:20+5+5+3+1 = 34

The rewards are skewed towards defenses!
If we discount out the top 3 team prizes, the ratio becomes much worse:
+60% defense increase and +9% attack increase!

The game already is skewed where folks regularly have defenses which are easily 20-30% higher than their attack and this is going to make the game balance worse!
If the goal is such that ppl can no longer attack/raid each other than we should maybe re-christen the game Modern Peace :o

-X

Gree should actually decrease the cost of upgrade for attack for faction boost.

Gambit12
08-14-2013, 02:38 PM
Modern War Peace to you my brothers & sisters...Lol!:D;):o:):rolleyes::cool:

Viva la Revolution
08-14-2013, 03:26 PM
The bonus for Top 75 is such worse nobody will like to give Money for them. Gree change that Top 75 bonus!

lemonhaze
08-14-2013, 03:31 PM
The bonus for Top 75 is such worse nobody will like to give Money for them. Gree change that Top 75 bonus! ya it does suck glad im not a top 75 team or i would be upset

DaHoosier
08-14-2013, 09:33 PM
The disparity is utterly ridiculous. This is my biggest complaint with MW. it is a big part of why i am considering leaving this game. It is far out of hand and it seems there is no end in sight. How can they not see this. CC is much more balanced and make the syndicate events much more enjoyable.

To make things even worse you have to overcome the defense disparity and then make sure you are attacking people 20 to 25% lower defense than your attack to get any sort of consistency in your win percentage. This is just killer in WD events.

Come on Gree realize as you are stacking everyone up with +def items for months and months now it becomes exponentially worse as you keeps rolling them out. You are discouraging PvP and many are quitting because they can't keep their attack up enough to compete with the def gains for the WD events.

In our bracket typical players defenses went up 80 - 100k between WD events but attack did not make nearly the same gains. Please bring some balance back, it is driving players away. If you want to keep players in the game and paying give them the feeling they can somewhat compete.