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E-I
08-12-2013, 09:06 AM
I know this has been discussed before. Didn't Gree agree with guild leaders months ago to only run a war once per month? Whatever happened to that.

I have lost a number of good team mates due to the constant barrage of quests, wars being spaced out every 2-3 weekends, and the feeling that you need to play non-stop if you want to remain competitive. There are now three events running concurrently (ie. Boss, Guild LTQ, Individual LTQ), plus most guilds are trying to make big donation drives in anticipation for this weekends war. We are seeing players quit LTQs half way through because of the time demands. But worse, we have players that decide to leave the guild, go gem free, or quit the game altogether. I am not sure how Gree thinks this is going to play out, but frustrating gem-spending players to the point that they leave doesn't seem like a wise move.

Person
08-12-2013, 09:08 AM
I know this has been discussed before. Didn't Gree agree with guild leaders months ago to only run a war once per month? Whatever happened to that.

I have lost a number of good team mates due to the constant barrage of quests, wars being spaced out every 2-3 weekends, and the feeling that you need to play non-stop if you want to remain competitive. There are now three events running concurrently (ie. Boss, Guild LTQ, Individual LTQ), plus most guilds are trying to make big donation drives in anticipation for this weekends war. We are seeing players quit LTQs half way through because of the time demands. But worse, we have players that decide to leave the guild, go gem free, or quit the game altogether. I am not sure how Gree thinks this is going to play out, but frustrating gem-spending players to the point that they leave doesn't seem like a wise move.

Gree: b-b-but money?

luke8989
08-12-2013, 09:37 AM
I know this has been discussed before. Didn't Gree agree with guild leaders months ago to only run a war once per month? Whatever happened to that.

I have lost a number of good team mates due to the constant barrage of quests, wars being spaced out every 2-3 weekends, and the feeling that you need to play non-stop if you want to remain competitive. There are now three events running concurrently (ie. Boss, Guild LTQ, Individual LTQ), plus most guilds are trying to make big donation drives in anticipation for this weekends war. We are seeing players quit LTQs half way through because of the time demands. But worse, we have players that decide to leave the guild, go gem free, or quit the game altogether. I am not sure how Gree thinks this is going to play out, but frustrating gem-spending players to the point that they leave doesn't seem like a wise move.

Dude, dont waste your time, it will never happen. $$$$$$$$$$$$

E-I
08-12-2013, 09:46 AM
Dude, dont waste your time, it will never happen. $$$$$$$$$$$$

It is going to bite Gree in the rear. People are retiring or going gem free.

Cola3
08-12-2013, 10:06 AM
On the contrary I want more LTQ's!!

Iphazard
08-12-2013, 10:23 AM
This is an easy one. You can decide for yourself exactly how many wars and events to participate in. No GREE action required.

anchlovi
08-12-2013, 10:28 AM
We are a small guild all we want is to enjoy the game and stay competitive. With all those quests running on the same time you don't have the time for old school fun. Boss events require gold, a lot of it. Ind quests require energy, tons of it. Current guild quest is totally unfair for "regular" guilds (~3000 items... Really?).

I already paid a lot for playing this game. I know I can opt out, but I have many friends in this game. BTW, to buy and play BF4 for PC costs less than participating wars... Go figure

E-I
08-12-2013, 10:51 AM
On the contrary I want more LTQ's!!
I am pretty sure that Cola gets stock in Gree instead of Bonus gems.

:p :D

Colony Colonel
08-12-2013, 12:00 PM
nobody forces you to spend your money to participate. GREE put on a wide selection of events. If you can't keep up with the pace of wars that your guild is going for then maybe you should downgrade to a lower ranking guild? If you cant afford to complete all LTQ's then select carefully which you do wish to participate in.

Just because there is an LTQ or war running it does not mean that you have to pay. that is your choice.

If wars and LTQ's were further spaced out I don't know what I would do other than raiding and keep reloading the game in frustration to see when the next is released.

Alternatively if the pace of the game is too fast for you and you want time away from the game... take time away. your life doesn't depend upon it.

procsyzarc
08-12-2013, 01:59 PM
Then on the other hand people quit Monster Quest for the opposite reason and the events are the reason many of us play KA more now. Personally I prefer KA since there is always something to do and actually wish there were more events.

You will never keep everyone happy but the two games are very similar so you can chose which one suits your play style

Monster Quest- One event at a time usually one every 10 days
Kingdom Age – Constant events almost always between 1-4 events on at a time

Person
08-12-2013, 03:13 PM
nobody forces you to spend your money to participate. GREE put on a wide selection of events. If you can't keep up with the pace of wars that your guild is going for then maybe you should downgrade to a lower ranking guild? If you cant afford to complete all LTQ's then select carefully which you do wish to participate in.

Just because there is an LTQ or war running it does not mean that you have to pay. that is your choice.

If wars and LTQ's were further spaced out I don't know what I would do other than raiding and keep reloading the game in frustration to see when the next is released.

Alternatively if the pace of the game is too fast for you and you want time away from the game... take time away. your life doesn't depend upon it.

if you want to be a part of a top 25 if not top 50 guild you have to keep up. Else it means you can only hit walls and castles which is very important, but a lot less fun. Also maaaaany people's ego's wont allow for missed ltq's :)

stats not gained now means a larger gap with the lvl 200 folks who do complete everything. And that gap is virtually impossible to make smaller.

leek
08-12-2013, 05:40 PM
Gree employee: How about war once per month max and fewer events?
Gree boss: How about I cut your pay by half?

Shinazueli
08-12-2013, 07:34 PM
Gree employee: How about war once per month max and fewer events?
Gree boss: How about I cut your pay by half?

How about I lay you off more like it.

Shinazueli
08-12-2013, 07:36 PM
if you want to be a part of a top 25 if not top 50 guild you have to keep up. Else it means you can only hit walls and castles which is very important, but a lot less fun. Also maaaaany people's ego's wont allow for missed ltq's :)

stats not gained now means a larger gap with the lvl 200 folks who do complete everything. And that gap is virtually impossible to make smaller.

And this. Presenting it as a "choice" doesn't work at that level of play. Either you are hard core or you are not. There is no middle ground. It's like any other competition, what one player does is largely based on what his/her peers do.

Johan -
08-12-2013, 09:49 PM
Frequent quests are ok, but not so crazy as the current one... ;)
Guild wars every 2 weeks is not ok, it impacts for most players their personal life too much. ( assuming they have a real life next to the game). Many guilds have the policy when you not participate in 1 of the wars, that you get booted, only a good reason can avoid that. ( such as holiday, birthday, etc...)

What I see more and more is that players from the Top10~50 guilds leave their guild and apply by Top100~150 guilds..( less pressure, less expensive and more fun..)

Shinazueli
08-12-2013, 11:04 PM
Yes. And we are happy to have them. :)

E-I
08-13-2013, 04:36 AM
Frequent quests are ok, but not so crazy as the current one... ;)
Guild wars every 2 weeks is not ok, it impacts for most players their personal life too much. ( assuming they have a real life next to the game).

Yup, exactly this. I don't mind having a quest running all of the time. It is when there are three running at one time, plus having a 1.5-2.5 week break in between wars. It is taxing (time-wise) for those who want their guild to remain in the top 10/25.

Kronous
08-13-2013, 05:33 AM
LOL, I'm going back into the oilfield so i can afford more gems!!! Bring on the Events and Wars!!!!

Valid or
08-13-2013, 08:58 AM
The war schedule is all messed, we figured gree was trying at the start of last war to keep it to a opposite weekend of wars in there other games, they ended up shorting this one due to problems with some of the new code for the new raid boss event, which they removed from the countdown clock.
They know the general outlook on wars too close together. They also know that a lot people play there other games aswell and it isn't productive to have wars that run together or too close. Granted to some of us it doesn't look like it, but they do.
they make changes as needed, a lot of us were happy with they way this started out, till they had issues with there code and shorted it. Think there choices were when they encounted the issues was cancel or shorten, and they shortened it.

Vile Lynn
08-13-2013, 10:17 AM
I don't remember GREE agreeing to anything... just saying...
I think that is just what we wanted to happen.

Starbuck
08-13-2013, 08:28 PM
I dont mind the stream of LTQ, but I'd rather a single war per month...
I will say this the Heroic requirements for the Guild LTQ are INCREDIBLE....1/15 = 3,000 creatures....whoa...
that a whole lot of gem-spending members or just blatantly requires hacking....

jchow69
08-14-2013, 07:59 AM
Events give out good units and give Gree money.

charlieka
08-14-2013, 08:43 PM
I dont mind the stream of LTQ, but I'd rather a single war per month...
I will say this the Heroic requirements for the Guild LTQ are INCREDIBLE....1/15 = 3,000 creatures....whoa...
that a whole lot of gem-spending members or just blatantly requires hacking....

Agreed. The LTQs are fun because you can pace yourself. The wars are fun too but more than once per month is too often and is burning me out.

aphroKEN
08-14-2013, 09:36 PM
nobody forces you to spend your money to participate. GREE put on a wide selection of events. If you can't keep up with the pace of wars that your guild is going for then maybe you should downgrade to a lower ranking guild? If you cant afford to complete all LTQ's then select carefully which you do wish to participate in.

Just because there is an LTQ or war running it does not mean that you have to pay. that is your choice.

If wars and LTQ's were further spaced out I don't know what I would do other than raiding and keep reloading the game in frustration to see when the next is released.

Alternatively if the pace of the game is too fast for you and you want time away from the game... take time away. your life doesn't depend upon it.

^this


Then on the other hand people quit Monster Quest for the opposite reason and the events are the reason many of us play KA more now. Personally I prefer KA since there is always something to do and actually wish there were more events.

You will never keep everyone happy but the two games are very similar so you can chose which one suits your play style

Monster Quest- One event at a time usually one every 10 days
Kingdom Age – Constant events almost always between 1-4 events on at a time

^ and this

/thread

Mickeytah
08-14-2013, 11:25 PM
I dont mind the stream of LTQ, but I'd rather a single war per month...
I will say this the Heroic requirements for the Guild LTQ are INCREDIBLE....1/15 = 3,000 creatures....whoa...
that a whole lot of gem-spending members or just blatantly requires hacking....

Or you could do the Individual LTQ first and have your kills from that carry over. In a guild of 40 people, that is only 75 kills per person. If you have done the Individual Heroic part, you start off with 33 of those 75 kills. Even if you haven't done the Individual Heroic part, it's still not impossible since in the first few stages, you should be able to to one hit kill many of the mobs unless your HS, weapon, and armor are utter dog crap. So, it's really not that difficult to hit 3,000 kills if everyone in the guild puts forth an effort.

Once you get to the part of Heroic mode where mobs stop being one hit kills, you have to kill far fewer mobs.

So Math disagrees that you need to spend a bunch of gems or be a dirty cheater to complete the Heroic 1/15 step.

aphroKEN
08-14-2013, 11:38 PM
What I'm getting from this thread is the people that don't want to participate in events so frequently also want to deny others the opportunity to get stronger or surpass them by trying to get Gree to lessen the frequency of events. I'm very sure that's the motive behind the OP and his supporters.

Person
08-14-2013, 11:46 PM
What I'm getting from this thread is the people that don't want to participate in events so frequently also want to deny others the opportunity to get stronger or surpass them by trying to get Gree to lessen the frequency of events. I'm very sure that's the motive behind the OP and his supporters.

of course. I cant afford not to participate in events, because that means im back to wall hitting again. People hitting is just way more fun.

aphroKEN
08-15-2013, 12:05 AM
If you can't handle the heat then it's time to cool off; i.e. join another guild with less requirements.

You will be happier.

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Person
08-15-2013, 12:34 AM
If you can't handle the heat then it's time to cool off; i.e. join another guild with less requirements.

You will be happier.

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r785/goldenbra/happy_rgb_zpsd41d464d.jpg

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r785/goldenbra/i-m-soooo-so-happy_design_zps22cb1acd.png

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r785/goldenbra/I-feel-so-happy_zpse18a9df6.png

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r785/goldenbra/423577194_1366286592_zps448bcfed.png

i really dont mind running all events, but this one is just a bit more tedious than anything previously xD

E-I
08-15-2013, 05:05 AM
Constant events are fine. But when Gree runs three events at the same time because they need to cram everything in to a two week span between wars, then it is hard for top guilds to retain players. That was the point of the original post. Another one of my players sold off all buildings and retired yesterday.

Johan -
08-15-2013, 05:22 AM
Constant events are fine. But when Gree runs three events at the same time because they need to cram everything in to a two week span between wars, then it is hard for top guilds to retain players. That was the point of the original post. Another one of my players sold off all buildings and retired yesterday.

After the previous war, 2 of our members retired of the game and 3 left our guild to search for a TOP500 guild, so that they had more RL time, currently we have one member who will retire after the coming war. He will spend first his remaining gems and is going to sell all his buildings and donate all to our guild.
It's sad to see him go, He has very nice stats !, but RL is of course more important that a game...!

I expect more and more players will slow down, 2 wars in a month is just too much for most of us.
I must say, since the 2 wars in a month, I fight one of the two wars with minimal gems and the other with normal gem spending.., all considered, the wars including the quests/events cost me a lot more gems and time than I first had in mind..

E-I
08-19-2013, 01:39 PM
This was a bitter sweet victory. Within a hours of a top ten finish, three of my guildmates have decided to retire from the game. Reasons range from Gree not making it fun any more to being too time consuming. Sad to see them go. :( Big spenders too.

Johan -
08-19-2013, 11:18 PM
@ E-I
I can understand that Top10~50 guild members feel that they have to leave their guilds due to higher spending.
All quests, box events ( auctions) and wars ask for a lot of gems. I don't believe that "not making it fun" is a proper reason, GREE improved by adding guild quests, soon the guild boss events, special guild quests during the guild wars, etc...a lot has changed since the last 6 months. " time consuming" yes, but that is with most online multiplayer games, I think that's nothing new.

I would appreciate when we get real quests again in which we must visit rival kingdoms and raid buildings etc..I believe quests like that belong in a kingdom game like this. That gives more value to the stamina.

I saw the score list 1 hour before the ending of the war, well! The scores went up again with many % compared with the previous wars.

I must say, the majority of our guild members have improved their gameplay and they score much more points than with the first couple of wars.., but.... Most battles can be won only with gem spending, for the Top200 ~1250 it is not such a big deal, but from no.150 to No. 1 gems are more and more important.

I for now just settle with a TOP75~100 rank guild, otherwise I should spend every month minimal USD400 into this game. ( guild quests, individual quests, box events, guild wars, etc...) .we all must not forget, in the end " it's just a game.. "

Bohemian
08-20-2013, 02:57 AM
Just loss 2 fellows members due to retire after sell all the building, n 4 request transfer to camping guilds.
My time is .... 

E-I
08-20-2013, 04:49 AM
@ E-I
I would appreciate when we get real quests again in which we must visit rival kingdoms and raid buildings etc..I believe quests like that belong in a kingdom game like this. That gives more value to the stamina.


That would be a welcome change. I have 50 stamina... events like this are great. (As long as you don't have to hunt down 24/48 hour buildings.)


In our case the people who left aren't complaining about the spending - they were happy to buy several mountains per month. It was more the time commitment and the lack of diversity in the events. There is only so much you can do to make each box event or boss event different from one another.

Johan -
08-20-2013, 05:20 AM
That would be a welcome change. I have 50 stamina... events like this are great. (As long as you don't have to hunt down 24/48 hour buildings.)


In our case the people who left aren't complaining about the spending - they were happy to buy several mountains per month. It was more the time commitment and the lack of diversity in the events. There is only so much you can do to make each box event or boss event different from one another.

True, diversity is difficult to create.
Even with new guild buildings, the excitement goes quickly away again, It's so sad, that GREE didn't upgraded KA more to the "Crystal Throne style"! you could change your avatar, had special battle side maps, more special buildings, etc.. btw. that was a new GREE game also....

Well hopefully the needed diversity is at front of our doors, let we start with the special Guild Boss event, followed in the near future with new buildings and raid rival quests...

:)

Sigfried
08-20-2013, 02:54 PM
Good to see this complaint here. We lost one of the founders to our guild, monster player and heavy gold user, for this very reason. We have to maintain a life outside of the game and Gree is pushing it to the limit constantly. I play both MW and KA and soon one of them is going to have to go. A couple of months ago I would have said MW would be the one I would quit, but they have been messing up KA lately and I find myself doing more MW nowadays. If we lose anymore key players from our guild the choice becomes easy. And Gree seems to be pushing them to quit.

STRIDER 1
08-21-2013, 04:50 PM
I also only want once a month. That is more than enough.

E-I
08-21-2013, 05:15 PM
Lost another one today. Taking a few months away from Gree.

Killer Giraffe
08-21-2013, 08:16 PM
I also would like war only once a month. For players like me who participate in Crime City and Modern War as well being in battle every weekend is becoming a challenge.

deuce
08-21-2013, 09:32 PM
stats not gained now means a larger gap with the lvl 200 folks who do complete everything. And that gap is virtually impossible to make smaller.
Wait a second ... A few weeks ago people were whining that being level 200 was sooooo unfair. Now I read that being 200 confers an serious advantage?

So which one is it?