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OBAMASMAMA
08-08-2013, 11:40 AM
Does anyone know how much health the L50 boss has in tier 2??? Wanna know if I can do it free or if I have to use some gold (not gems) in L50

Colony Colonel
08-08-2013, 12:05 PM
246k attack... you will do it for free

l3lade2
08-08-2013, 12:18 PM
is tier 2 up to level 25?

OBAMASMAMA
08-08-2013, 12:24 PM
is tier 2 up to level 25?

L50. Thanks Colony Colonel!

Shadows
08-08-2013, 12:26 PM
Recommend you look here for questions like this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Aj9pi1nr5A99dFF0UWZKZWxzSGVyZkh5ekhnUnh0el E&f=true&noheader=true&gid=93

l3lade2
08-08-2013, 02:03 PM
What I thought, I'm on boss 44 of tier 2 now.....think I could probably do boss 50'for free, but I think itd be close, 410k attack.

I use part gold part free now, just because I'm impatient and can't be bothered logging in every 20 minutes so can't say either way.

I could be mistaken but I know a few people have questioned the boss health section of the spreadsheet lately, with GREE tinkering in the background and stuff.

Edit: should mention, on boss 44 and still missing 1 unit!! 6 more and I'm sending a rather miffed ticket in to GREEd.

Shinazueli
08-08-2013, 03:07 PM
What I thought, I'm on boss 44 of tier 2 now.....think I could probably do boss 50'for free, but I think itd be close, 410k attack.

I use part gold part free now, just because I'm impatient and can't be bothered logging in every 20 minutes so can't say either way.

I could be mistaken but I know a few people have questioned the boss health section of the spreadsheet lately, with GREE tinkering in the background and stuff.

Edit: should mention, on boss 44 and still missing 1 unit!! 6 more and I'm sending a rather miffed ticket in to GREEd.

Don't bother, we've tried. It's just luck. You get it or don't. They'll do nothing but close the ticket.

l3lade2
08-08-2013, 03:45 PM
Don't bother, we've tried. It's just luck. You get it or don't. They'll do nothing but close the ticket.

That's unbelievable (or it would be if it were anyone other than GREE), if they're going to 'end it' at 50, you have to be able to complete the LTQ within that time. Not to mention how screwed up it is to not be able or get 1 unit from boss 20 up to boss 50.

Shinazueli
08-08-2013, 07:41 PM
That's unbelievable (or it would be if it were anyone other than GREE), if they're going to 'end it' at 50, you have to be able to complete the LTQ within that time. Not to mention how screwed up it is to not be able or get 1 unit from boss 20 up to boss 50.

Even assuming even chances across a tier, that's 20% for each common, 10% for each uncommon, and 3.333% for each rare.

If you were missing a rare, the chance you would NOT obtain the rare after 30 tries is (1 - 0.03333)^30 == 0.401007068543. So you have about a 40% chance after 30 tries to not obtain the rare, or 4/10 odds.
For the uncommon , it's (1 - 0.1)^30 == 0.042391158275, or about 1/25 odds of not getting a needed uncommon.
For the common, it's (1 - .2)^30 == 0.001237940039, or about 1/100 odds of not getting a needed common.

In any normal distribution of players, there will be ~half of them given 30 tries after finishing 8/9 that will not get their needed unit. And that's assuming Gree even plays fair and has even chances across the tier, which is by no means a given.

Also, to the OP, according to our guild's data, to complete the l50-75 boss tier requires a force hit of ~500k in order to ccomplete for free. So not happening at 2xxK stats.

Also, it doesn't 'end' at 50 levels of the boss. You can continue killing him in the hopes that you will get your needed unit, and will get xp and gold (and he will be as difficult) as if you were killing the level 50 boss. If you have 9/9, there's literally no point in going past 50.

Edit: I'm assuming he's in the 51-75 tier as he's got a lvl53 in his sig, though he may have been pushed into that tier by this boss, in which case he's still in the 26-50 tier and should probably be able to do it.

War Eagle
08-08-2013, 07:57 PM
Don't bother, we've tried. It's just luck. You get it or don't. They'll do nothing but close the ticket.

I agree. I think the ticket method USED to work, but not anymore. On the Dagon event, my LLP got to 50 without collecting 9/9. I sent a ticket, but they wrote back saying they couldn't do anything. Fortunately, I killed a few more and got the unit I needed on around boss #53.

warrends
08-22-2013, 07:13 AM
Recommend you look here for questions like this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Aj9pi1nr5A99dFF0UWZKZWxzSGVyZkh5ekhnUnh0el E&f=true&noheader=true&gid=93

This is a great spreadsheet, and I've stared at it many times. Only been playing KA for ~2 months. Can someone please explain what "New, 1.5x" means in the column headers for the boss HP? Did GREE up the bosses' HP by 1.5 at some point?

Person
08-22-2013, 07:19 AM
Even assuming even chances across a tier, that's 20% for each common, 10% for each uncommon, and 3.333% for each rare.

If you were missing a rare, the chance you would NOT obtain the rare after 30 tries is (1 - 0.03333)^30 == 0.401007068543. So you have about a 40% chance after 30 tries to not obtain the rare, or 4/10 odds.
For the uncommon , it's (1 - 0.1)^30 == 0.042391158275, or about 1/25 odds of not getting a needed uncommon.
For the common, it's (1 - .2)^30 == 0.001237940039, or about 1/100 odds of not getting a needed common.

In any normal distribution of players, there will be ~half of them given 30 tries after finishing 8/9 that will not get their needed unit. And that's assuming Gree even plays fair and has even chances across the tier, which is by no means a given.

Also, to the OP, according to our guild's data, to complete the l50-75 boss tier requires a force hit of ~500k in order to ccomplete for free. So not happening at 2xxK stats.

Also, it doesn't 'end' at 50 levels of the boss. You can continue killing him in the hopes that you will get your needed unit, and will get xp and gold (and he will be as difficult) as if you were killing the level 50 boss. If you have 9/9, there's literally no point in going past 50.

Edit: I'm assuming he's in the 51-75 tier as he's got a lvl53 in his sig, though he may have been pushed into that tier by this boss, in which case he's still in the 26-50 tier and should probably be able to do it. supposedly your chance at commons goes down, and your chance at uncommon and rare goes up the more bosses you kill