Gree, why would you intentionally screw us....

[Greybeard]

... by not having the Guild Quest and the Individual Quest sync all the way to the end? Making us re-do what was already done but not counted on both quests is just gem sucking to the max. At least try not making it so obvious what you want out of us!

[KennyFPU]

I agree I think that if they keep going this way it isn't going to be a free game anymore. I would love to see a war event where no one could use gems and lets see who would win then. That would level the playing field big time and show who the good players are and who spends the most time on during war time. The cp scores would not even be close to what they are now for a lot of teams.

[pendentive]

FUN would still win
:D

[KennyFPU]

It would still be fun and people wouldn't have to worry about spending their hard earned money on a free game lol

[l3lade2]

Not so sure that they would do, but to say that a free war would "show who the good players are" is a preposterous notion. Guilds such as FUN and other top guilds wôuld be at an immediate disadvantage, having assembled their guilds according to the rules of guild wars at this time.

They are largely high level players, with high stats, therefore get a lower average CP because of their level, bût they make up for it in gem usage. If you take gems away you immediately incrèase the advantage of lower level players.

[Person]

Not so sure that they would do, but to say that a free war would "show who the good players are" is a preposterous notion. Guilds such as FUN and other top guilds wôuld be at an immediate disadvantage, having assembled their guilds according to the rules of guild wars at this time.

They are largely high level players, with high stats, therefore get a lower average CP because of their level, bût they make up for it in gem usage. If you take gems away you immediately incrèase the advantage of lower level players.
though when the lower guilds fight FUN or RK or SB for that matter, they cant attack well anyone as most of them will have passed the 3m if not the 4 or 5m by now. I know for a fact the 4m has been passed by several players in FUN, so RK wont be far behind.

[Kjctnorris]

Gem players allow free players to play for free. Otherwise, there'd be no game for you to play if someone wasn't paying the bills. Why the hate?

To answer the OP - I don't think they've ever tried to hide their intentions. If they have, they suck at it.

[Jnsolberg]

Since we can't score against the FUN powerhouse, we don't waste any gems on them. I've seen them score over 2 million points against us on the first day or two. Later on they score only @ 600k, by then they are taking it easy. Lol

Gree, we need you to change the guild quests so that we don't have to re kill mobs that we already killed on our individual quests. Help us to become more competitive, by not making the guild quests un-obtainable.

[KennyFPU]

I'm not really hating on gem spenders. I like playing ka so thanks for keeping the bills paid. I just think that it's is crazy the amount that has to be used to play the game to the max. I spend some times when I can and it makes the game a bit more enjoyable to play. I don't think it should get 1500 gems to finish a quest when your at a high lvl in the game that should be the perk for leveling and playing a long time that the quest just a little easier to finish . I'm getting closer and closer every quest and I'm also leveling up so that helps. But I'm done posting on the genreal part of the forum. People are rude and bitter on here. It also seems like the gem players look down on the free players for being frustratd with the game when all you see is gem spenders on there bragging about everything all the time. So peace out

[Person]

I'm not really hating on gem spenders. I like playing ka so thanks for keeping the bills paid. I just think that it's is crazy the amount that has to be used to play the game to the max. I spend some times when I can and it makes the game a bit more enjoyable to play. I don't think it should get 1500 gems to finish a quest when your at a high lvl in the game that should be the perk for leveling and playing a long time that the quest just a little easier to finish . I'm getting closer and closer every quest and I'm also leveling up so that helps. But I'm done posting on the genreal part of the forum. People are rude and bitter on here. It also seems like the gem players look down on the free players for being frustratd with the game when all you see is gem spenders on there bragging about everything all the time. So peace out
as far as i can see this is mainly the place where gemmers and free players alike come to complain when Gree does something wrong, and to glean information about the next quest in the chain from Tempus his spreadsheets. So yeah, its a little bitter at the moment because Gree seems to be doing more things wrong, which hinders people in enjoying the game.

[E-I]

Gree, why would you intentionally screw us....

Yeah! Can we please go back to the days where Gree unintentionally screws us all of the time!

[Person]

Yeah! Can we please go back to the days where Gree unintentionally screws us all of the time!
its just that they're doing it so often now its almost like its intentional. Im sure its unintentional, cuz its hurting them in the wallets, to run a buggy game.

[KM KAge]

its just that they're doing it so often now its almost like its intentional. Im sure its unintentional, cuz its hurting them in the wallets, to run a buggy game.
I am not sure how bad it is hurting when I spend gems to kill mobs and then spend gems to kill the same mobs again. Misaligned guild and individual levels, and not getting credit for individual kills at the beginning of the quest.

[Kjctnorris]

I'm not really hating on gem spenders. I like playing ka so thanks for keeping the bills paid. I just think that it's is crazy the amount that has to be used to play the game to the max. I spend some times when I can and it makes the game a bit more enjoyable to play. I don't think it should get 1500 gems to finish a quest when your at a high lvl in the game that should be the perk for leveling and playing a long time that the quest just a little easier to finish . I'm getting closer and closer every quest and I'm also leveling up so that helps. But I'm done posting on the genreal part of the forum. People are rude and bitter on here. It also seems like the gem players look down on the free players for being frustratd with the game when all you see is gem spenders on there bragging about everything all the time. So peace out
I don't know if you got all that from my post or from previous posts, but my point wasn't to suggest gem players are better people than free players. However, I don't recall m/any posts from gem players saying negative things about the free players unless provoked. On the flip side, I frequently see free players disparage gem spenders.

I'm just curious of the reason for the unprovoked snide comments.

[Jnsolberg]

This is the strangest situation I've ever seen. People like me, love to play this game. I play 3 games and spend hours every day playing Kingdom Age, as do many of you.
We all love this game, but at the same time we hate Gree.
It seems Gree doesn't care about its customers at all.

Gree...think about how much better this game could be if you were more helpful and fixed all these glitches we get on every quest, and now energy refill.

[CJ54]

Gree...think about how much better this game could be if you were more helpful and fixed all these glitches we get on every quest, and now energy refill.

We're working on figuring out the energy refill right now, and we'll be passing the feedback on the quest syncing to the other devs.

[charlie0407]

The game is a free game to begin with, so you saying that gem buyers make it a free game? i dont think
so. But this company has driven this game into the ground, rather much like it better under the direction
of funzio, a free game designed for fun, build a kingdom, raid others, build your army, not waste countless amounts of $ on a game that is now going in no direction except making people want to complain to the
BBB, they still owe me for a $100 mountain i purchased but i shrugged it off after 6 months of tickets, with them telling me they already credited them to me, so it IS a company that doesnt care about its players, just thier pockets, thier pockets dont grow any smaller with the countless people that quit this game daily, because they have many other games people are still willing to fork money over for.

[KennyFPU]

Kjctnorris I wasn't trying to make snide comments I was just saying that is how is see things on here. I'm an older player been playing for over a year now. I didn't say I see gem spenders being negative , I said that it seems that gem spenders look down on free players for complaining about things like not being able to finish LTQs. I asked a ? About how to calculate how much energy it would take to finish an LTQ and it seemed like one post in that thread from a gem spender was not helpful but discouging me from even trying to finish the LTQ. Now to me that's not right and it seems like he was saying that he was better then me because I'm not a Hugh gem spender fine I'm not but don't down play me for trying to finish a LTQ for once.

[Person]

The game is a free game to begin with, so you saying that gem buyers make it a free game? i dont think
so. But this company has driven this game into the ground, rather much like it better under the direction
of funzio, a free game designed for fun, build a kingdom, raid others, build your army, not waste countless amounts of $ on a game that is now going in no direction except making people want to complain to the
BBB, they still owe me for a $100 mountain i purchased but i shrugged it off after 6 months of tickets, with them telling me they already credited them to me, so it IS a company that doesnt care about its players, just thier pockets, thier pockets dont grow any smaller with the countless people that quit this game daily, because they have many other games people are still willing to fork money over for. If no one would buy gems what would be the use for Gree to keep their servers hosting this game?

[plavine]

I play all three major gree games
I have spent $200 on the games , plus used 200 extra when given gift cards.
The problem that has arisen, just like society is that the rich get richer and the poor lose ground. The LTQs and boss events ect.....took the strategy and game play out of the game. The battles are a complete guessing game, newer players have huge numbers without have to farm weapons like the older players did. Once gree realized they messed up the gem units for sale they smartly came up with plan B which is : no player who doesn't spend on gems will ever finish a quest .

[Kjctnorris]

Kjctnorris I wasn't trying to make snide comments I was just saying that is how is see things on here. I'm an older player been playing for over a year now. I didn't say I see gem spenders being negative , I said that it seems that gem spenders look down on free players for complaining about things like not being able to finish LTQs. I asked a ? About how to calculate how much energy it would take to finish an LTQ and it seemed like one post in that thread from a gem spender was not helpful but discouging me from even trying to finish the LTQ. Now to me that's not right and it seems like he was saying that he was better then me because I'm not a Hugh gem spender fine I'm not but don't down play me for trying to finish a LTQ for once.

I'm just guessing here, but I'd imagine you received that kind of feedback because it seems impossible for any free player to finish the LTQ without hacks. Stage 21 took almost 100 hits alone at over 150 energy per hit (with return damage).

So, if you insinuated you could complete the LTQ for free, then one could infer you were hacking, which may have been the reason for the response you got - not because you were a free player.

I don't know that for fact, but based on what you are telling me, I could see it playing out like that.

[KennyFPU]

Nope I'm not a hacker and there you go thats what im talking about total disrepect for no reason thanks. That really makes me want to be part of the community. Yes I'm a free player and I didn't finish the ltq. I was thinking about buying gems but I can only buy some much. So I was trying to see how many it would take that's all. So quit being rude!

[NinjaHonu]

I dont think kjctnorris was attacking you kenny. He was just saying how some people might be thinking when someone says they can finish an LTQ for free. Btw if there was a gem free war I think legit/free players would be more at a disadvantage. The teams that would rise to the top would still be the top 25 teams due to the health regen bonuses and non-legit guilds with 58+ members.

[KennyFPU]

If that is the case fine. I agree ninja about the war deal i think for people that are top 200 on up would benifit more then anyone. I didn't say anything about finishing the LTQ for free,like I said above I was trying to see if I could figure out how many gems it would take to finish it. I just don't like rude people when someone asked a simple ? From players that know more then I do. And thanks for the side step on the arguement it's just a game anyways right no big deal just what to make a point about how people treat others on the forum sometimes and this is a perfect expmle.

[Rastlin]

I'm not really hating on gem spenders. I like playing ka so thanks for keeping the bills paid. I just think that it's is crazy the amount that has to be used to play the game to the max. I spend some times when I can and it makes the game a bit more enjoyable to play. I don't think it should get 1500 gems to finish a quest when your at a high lvl in the game that should be the perk for leveling and playing a long time that the quest just a little easier to finish . I'm getting closer and closer every quest and I'm also leveling up so that helps. But I'm done posting on the genreal part of the forum. People are rude and bitter on here. It also seems like the gem players look down on the free players for being frustratd with the game when all you see is gem spenders on there bragging about everything all the time. So peace out
Good bye, and I will keep paying the bills for you...

[Valid or]

I am not sure that the top 10 would change that much even in a free(no gems) war. They already have the best health regen out of all of us. So they would get say 8-9 hits to our 5-6. And after watching the cp points from last war, it almost looks like gree tweaked it a bit.

[JJazz]

Good bye, and I will keep paying the bills for you...

Thank you Rastlin, you're my hero :) You must be in southern California then?

[Rastlin]

Thank you Rastlin, you're my hero :) You must be in southern California then?
Nope, Middle California (just East of the Bay Area).

[Skyraiders]

... by not having the Guild Quest and the Individual Quest sync all the way to the end? Making us re-do what was already done but not counted on both quests is just gem sucking to the max. At least try not making it so obvious what you want out of us!

I will answer your thread title with this with one word.....


GEMS!!

[PlayingCraze]

Wished the individual quests would count towards guild quests if you're ahead in ur individual quests
Now my guild only focuses on guild quests and not individual quests

[Kjctnorris]

Nope I'm not a hacker and there you go thats what im talking about total disrepect for no reason thanks. That really makes me want to be part of the community. Yes I'm a free player and I didn't finish the ltq. I was thinking about buying gems but I can only buy some much. So I was trying to see how many it would take that's all. So quit being rude!
I have no idea how you got "total disrespect" from what I wrote. I think the miscommunication here is me inferring you were asking how much energy it took because you were trying to complete the LTQ for free.

But with your latest post, you clarified you were trying to see how many gems you would have to buy. If you made that clear in that original conversation, then I could get where you may have been offended. But if you go around beating the "free player" drum as loudly as possible, people may miss the times you quietly discuss buying gems.

Outside of that, what can I say, there are @$$h01e$ in every group - free and gem spenders alike. This may have been the case in your conversation, but I don't think that's an accurate characterization of the majority of gem players. I'd even go as far as saying many of the gem spenders are some of the most helpful in this community and provide lots of helpful information to others that they don't have to. Just my .02.