Assessing strength of new player

[Richie2012]

An increasing number of factions are using Relative Strength Ratio to determine the usefullness of faction applicants.

So when recruiting, consider this.

1) Look at the player's Att and Def scores - add them both together. This will give their "Composite Score".
2) Look at their level - divide their Composite Score by their level. This will give their Relative Strength Ratio or RSR.

Having looked at a number of top players I notice that an RSR of near to 4 or more means the player is strong at their level and more likely to gather points and money. Anything near to 2 or less and those players might struggle at their level. In fact, these players are "Unicorns" who will give lower level players high points during faction v faction events.

[whitefire]

It's the only thing I look at when developing my own account.

[Mcdoc]

Very interesting & thoughtful concept - kinda like what used to be considered your "Density" - but over-inflated units have diluted the density. However - your method Does help determine how developed a character is and if they are ready for a higher ranked faction.

It kills me when someone with less than 200k stats on a level 140 to 160 player thinks they have what it takes to ask to be in a Top 10 faction - unless of course - they can score over 300k WD points hitting the Command Center - LoL

[Hooligany]

Very interesting & thoughtful concept - kinda like what used to be considered your "Density" - but over-inflated units have diluted the density. However - your method Does help determine how developed a character is and if they are ready for a higher ranked faction.

It kills me when someone with less than 200k stats on a level 140 to 160 player thinks they have what it takes to ask to be in a Top 10 faction - unless of course - they can score over 300k WD points hitting the Command Center - LoL

Lol.. That is crazy for 300k on cammand center. He can increase his stats better by buying sets of LE units and use the remaining to hit players and still get 300k. :p

[marklinalexanderho]

i'm only concerned w/ my wins & losses under my profile page.

like if i get 100 losses then i must have 10,000 wins minimum to maintain that 10:1 ratio LOL

hope i'm not out of point here tho hahaa cheers

[DFI]

You can also just go by faction ranking. If you face top 50-100 in WD battles, you need about 200k attack to get meaningful points. If you face stronger than 50, better have 350k attack or more, as def bonuses have made it much tougher to score points. And just remember defense usually increases faster than attack, and between each battle people are improving their scores by 50-150k, so I am looking forward to seeing what the avg player looks like in a couple of days to see if I am still competitive.

[warrends]

Having looked at a number of top players I notice that an RSR of near to 4 or more means the player is strong at their level and more likely to gather points and money. Anything near to 2 or less and those players might struggle at their level. In fact, these players are "Unicorns" who will give lower level players high points during faction v faction events.

You've got this backwards, by the way. "Unicums" (I use the word "unicorn" too, just because "unicum" sounds so ... bad) are the best of the best, not the worst of the worst. Look it up. Standard terminology in any game.

[Richie2012]

i'm only concerned w/ my wins & losses under my profile page.

like if i get 100 losses then i must have 10,000 wins minimum to maintain that 10:1 ratio LOL

hope i'm not out of point here tho hahaa cheers


Well that's connected because the higher your RSR the more chance that your win ratio will be higher. For example, if your RSR is less than 2 then you need to choose your fights carefully. Also, you are more likely to be picked on by stronger opponents at your level. If your RSR is more than 5 you probably don't have to check an opponents stats before you fight them because most of the time you know you will win.

[Richie2012]

You've got this backwards, by the way. "Unicums" (I use the word "unicorn" too, just because "unicum" sounds so ... bad) are the best of the best, not the worst of the worst. Look it up. Standard terminology in any game.

Thanks, I think we agree but in a different context. In this context a unicorn is a player who yields very high wdps when attacked. So a level 90 player with an Att of 300 will likely get around 450 wdps from a level 130 player with a defence of 200. For the low level guy the high level guy is a unicorn because he yields the best of the best in terms of points.

[sraghav42]

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[whitefire]

sraghav42,
I believe Richie made a small error in his presentation (correct me if I'm wrong Richie). A similar thing happened to me a short while ago... I believe the calculation is as follows: (total att+total def)/1000/2/your level. That will change your RSR somewhat

[mickymacirl]

64,000................or 320.

[DFI]

sraghav42,
I believe Richie made a small error in his presentation (correct me if I'm wrong Richie). A similar thing happened to me a short while ago... I believe the calculation is as follows: (total att+total def)/1000/2/your level. That will change your RSR somewhat

The one weakness with the ratio is that you could have a wonderfully high score, but if the defense is a lot higher than the attack, you may still struggle to find targets in the WD battles.

[sraghav42]

Something wrong with the formula

[Philly982]

This is pretty useful information for recruiting.

So if I have a RSR of 7, does that mean that I am a decent player? I have never considered myself a strong player, but I guess I have spent too much time looking through the 45th unit thread. Though in my opinion, you can never be too strong for your level.

[Emmerich]

Interesting, I have an RSR of just over 3, which after only 2 months of playing feels OKish. This definitely gives me stat targets to go after though! :)

[Philly982]

64,000................or 320.

Very impressive. I figured you would be somewhere around there. If I divide your RSR by my RSR then the resulting number would be 11.5 times greater than the recommended RSR in the OP......haha

[D1E Luke]

Mine is just over a 3.

[DFI]

It's all about balance. A person with 80/20 and 30/70 at the same level has the same ratio. The 80/20 guy may score more points vs the 30/70 guy, but he'll also get hit more due to low def. If you don't mind giving up points, then you want to recruit the 80/20 guy (better hope he is active!). Unfortunately, I'm the 30/70 guy, as I started my planning when there were no battles or factions. There was also massive stat inflation that weakened the UK flag. But the environment changing is all part of the game, so I've been trying to change my game too.

[whitefire]

If you have a RSR of seven, I'm jealous. That's really good. Yes, it can be a lot higher but then money spent becomes the main factor. I think the top three faction players will have ratings of up to 30 (if they even make that) or so and many others will be MUCH lower.

As to DFI's last remark: of course. You should never go by this number alone. Having a really good RSR at level 50 will not get you into a top25 faction because your stats -however good they may be- are just too low. It does mean that you really have top 50/25/10/whatever potential, something a level 200 player with 150K stats won't have.The att/def ratio can also make a difference although in practice I don't really see huge gaps. Most are somewhere between 1:1 and 2:3. I haven't seen many outside of that.

[Herr Kruger]

What do you mean by "score"?

[09231982]

Ok I have an attack of 1.6mil atack and 2.3 mil defense and im level 236 what does that make mine?

[Spazer]

ok, I am quite confused. I have 380K attack and 520K defense and I am on level 120.

lets do the math....

380K+520K=900K

and now..... which way are you telling me to calculate?

A) 900K/120=7500?

or

B)900/120=7.5?

[HGF69]

They can be as high as you like but if they ain't active they ain't worth squat.

[mreilly]

Ya the calculations are a bit off... the math from the first post doesnt work out at all. I did see the other persons idea but not sure if thats correct either.

[whitefire]

Ok I have an attack of 1.6mil atack and 2.3 mil defense and im level 236 what does that make mine?

(1600k+2300k)/2/236=8,2. That means that you have about 8k in avg stats per level. Good stuff!

[whitefire]

Spazer, If you're confused, think of what you're trying to calculate: the average stats (in thousands) per level. So in your case: (380k+520k)/2/120= 3,8