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Wdraizen
08-04-2013, 06:11 AM
Has anyone noticed that the miss and critical hits from monsters and arena have increased? I mean 2 to 4 miss in a row happens to me frequently now that before

Majingear
08-04-2013, 06:15 AM
same here...

Lord Of The Infernal
08-04-2013, 06:18 AM
No never ∩__∩

Musketeer
08-04-2013, 06:21 AM
I've seen three consecutive misses (I miss, opponent misses, I miss again) but don't recall four.

I'd guess the rate is about 10%, or used to be; it might be more now, but I suspect observational bias first.

One day I'll try counting misses, when I'm really bored.

Spongie
08-04-2013, 06:24 AM
I hate the misses in arena the most..1 miss can be crucial for winning or loosing.. they should remove it in arena battles

Revelate
08-04-2013, 11:37 AM
I hate the misses in arena the most..1 miss can be crucial for winning or loosing.. they should remove it in arena battles

I'm fairly confident that statistically our opponents miss the same percentage as we do in arena. Psychologically we just don't remember it as clearly, but if we logged it religiously I suspect we'd find it to balance.

Sure RNG can be a harsh mistress, but we may as well remove critical hits then, and thereby something creating even more formulaic than it already is with the AI routine.

To the OT: I've noticed what I think is an increased miss rate as well in my farming, even as I've increased levels in the same zone. I haven't measured it exactly but I've been getting some head-scratching misses both in farming and in arena recently which I simply don't recall seeing before but I haven't been playing long enough to get a good feel for it and I certainly haven't recorded the data.

Eunuchorn
08-04-2013, 12:27 PM
RNG=RNG
what we need is a more intricate system of elemental advantages.

Lieda
08-04-2013, 04:29 PM
I have nothing against misses and critical, hits, aside the fact that they are happening in a row too much. Something is no doubtly wrong. I can miss 3 times in a row anytime =_= what are the odds of that??? Also, at least to me, if someone that im fighting miss a hit on me, ill miss hit a too =_= it happens so much that i dont even get happy when they miss anymore.

Jello
08-04-2013, 05:52 PM
Everyone keeps saying RNG. RNG. RNG. Well what is the range of the random number generator? 1-100? 1-50? 1-10? It feels like it's 1-5 - If RNG=2 then miss. If RNG=4 then crit. It has to be low, and seems to be lower (like 1-3) on the first and last hits in Arena because I miss a good 50% of the time on my first attack (they will miss the first attack about 20% of the time), and then miss another 30% of the time on the second attack. My first knight is usually dead before I even get a hit on the opponent! Fast forward to the last attack on the opponent where I'm actually smiling that I may win but then I miss, and the opponent kills me on the return attack. The only guaranteed non-miss attack (and get a crit as well) is using SA.

CASKA
08-04-2013, 08:44 PM
could it be some armors have different miss/hit rates than others.

when I change armor , I noticed certain armor miss more.

not sure about this

Usul
08-04-2013, 09:07 PM
could it be some armors have different miss/hit rates than others.

when I change armor , I noticed certain armor miss more.

not sure about this

It seems like my LF+ is more prone to missing than my other armor sets.

Lieda
08-05-2013, 12:37 AM
Ahhhh..... Thats why then.... If you look well, the worrible wurm helmet cover the eyes.... Im getting rid of that armor

Ke ke ke ke

Usul
08-05-2013, 07:22 AM
Ahhhh..... Thats why then.... If you look well, the worrible wurm helmet cover the eyes.... Im getting rid of that armor

Ke ke ke ke

It's just a guess based off an observation. I haven't done any data crunching so I don't know if I'm correct.

Lieda
08-05-2013, 10:48 AM
It's just a guess based off an observation. I haven't done any data crunching so I don't know if I'm correct.

Errr... Its a joke?

Would be unimaginable that they would make an armor with such feature... But i insist that theres something wrong on misses in a row, ai only miss and mobs crits on, it happens waaayyy too much

Roark
08-05-2013, 12:28 PM
missed 4 in a row and lost to a level 85 friend, bit annoying

Bearsuo
08-05-2013, 11:02 PM
Everyone keeps saying RNG. RNG. RNG. Well what is the range of the random number generator? 1-100? 1-50? 1-10? It feels like it's 1-5 - If RNG=2 then miss. If RNG=4 then crit. It has to be low, and seems to be lower (like 1-3) on the first and last hits in Arena because I miss a good 50% of the time on my first attack (they will miss the first attack about 20% of the time), and then miss another 30% of the time on the second attack. My first knight is usually dead before I even get a hit on the opponent! Fast forward to the last attack on the opponent where I'm actually smiling that I may win but then I miss, and the opponent kills me on the return attack. The only guaranteed non-miss attack (and get a crit as well) is using SA.

Luckily you can buy a SA any time you like!

... some top guilds in WoW, back in the day, were convinced druid loot was some bosses' only drops, and others, that the druid loot was bugged and didn't ever drop. 20,000x 1 in 10 rolls, it's totes unlikely that someone will get a 4x streak of 5's...

Lotak
08-06-2013, 01:41 AM
I was farming Skeleton's Tomb and on the Skeleton before the boss, I missed 4 times in a row without it being reciprocated.
4 times.

Jello
08-06-2013, 04:59 AM
Luckily you can buy a SA any time you like!

Not in the arena, which is where it's most prevalent. Not that I would use my gems in arena for an SA anyway.

I am at a 50% W/L ratio in arena. I don't expect to win every fight, but if I'm geared armor strength wise and elementally over my opponent, I first don't expect to miss at all, let alone up to 5 times in a fight that may last only 7 or 8 hits each! Of the 1,400 losses I have, 50% of those were lost because of misses. It is excruciatingly frustrating to lose a fight because of 1 or more misses. Yes, I see the opponent missing now and then, but far less than what I miss on the opponent. And usually when I see the opponent miss, my mind says "wow, great, I may win now", then my next swing is a miss on the opponent negating his miss.

I can't DD anymore because I will go from an opponent in less than L35 gear hitting me for 30, to my next opponent hitting me for 350. And whether it's a coincidence or not, I miss MORE on a DD making me lose and asking for gems to keep the DD... GREE's way of f'ing the player over for even more gems?

Misses need to be removed from Arena and the only crits should happen with an SA. End of story. Let the armor level, strength, and elements stand against each other as it should be!

Papa3G
08-06-2013, 07:34 AM
Las two weeks I experienced so many miss, even up to 4 times.
But now only sometimes n max only 2 miss.
I never changed the armor in PvP so far...