[Danger] Slimelord Glorg - July 31st - August 7th

[The Wise One]

Attention Knights!

The Dark Prince has just unleashed a new boss that's approaching your castle walls fast! Defeat Slimelord Glorg to collect keys, items, gems, and a Limited Edition armor set! Slimelord Glorg will be here for a limited time only, so act now!

Find and deal bonus damage using the nemesis armor set and compete in the Damage Leaderboards for a chance to win even more rewards.



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[Sakino]

Never saw a weridest boss. I think the designers got a good dose of 420 herbs.
I think i will get some rewards and relax a bit after the dragons. Will put my friends in epic jewels farms.
What stats have this boss got? Jackalope, deva, boreas, notus or phyrus ones?

[ZERO_07]

I was hoping for a Water/ Earth and was excited to see that it was but dissapointed to see how hideous it looks, oh well at least now I can relax a bit and build up, gold, gems, level up, enhance the rest of my armors.

[D3athShade]

Hmmm. Since i didnt get jack + this might come in handy IF i make it to 43 =/ got to 35 on phyrus.
Boss looks weir tho... Gree staff on drugs?

[BileJAR]

I do hate the armor, lol. His stats seem weaker than those of the Dragons.

[vubby]

No good spirit armours, this one is gonna be tough for me

[Sakino]

Hmmm. Since i didnt get jack + this might come in handy IF i make it to 43 =/ got to 35 on phyrus.
Boss looks weir tho... Gree staff on drugs?
Cause of the look, i will not put so effort in this green mess, i will reach 43 for first time on the new one..
What kinds of stats have this boss got?

[Sir Robin]

What the hell will be on most people's mind. But yeah creative. Dragons was quite an epic event. So time for some fun I guess.

[Sakino]

What the hell will be on most people's mind. But yeah creative. Dragons was quite an epic event. So time for some fun I guess. yea, maybe some soft bosses like those will be ok, lke your opinion, relax time! Is august!

[cubey]

Well, water/earth is a bit tough for the newbies because it's strong against all the big 4. Not going to get far in this at all. Oh well

[D3athShade]

No good spirit armours, this one is gonna be tough for me

Sh!t, now that you mention it. I only have living flame + mak and eurus lvl 30 normal =/ is it worth maxing the normal epic boss armors since i never got to 43? (and i'0 lvl 97, quiete sad actually)

[BileJAR]

The armor stats look good. But NOT the look. ;_; I don't want a green eye in my armorsmith!

[Unresolved]

Sh!t, now that you mention it. I only have living flame + mak and eurus lvl 30 normal =/ is it worth maxing the normal epic boss armors since i never got to 43? (and i'0 lvl 97, quiete sad actually)

No it's not. You'll never finish 43 with just Eurus(regular). Unless you have 10 great friends that is.

[Jello]

Why do people care so much about looks - you fashionista's! If the armor is better than any of your Earth/Water armor, I wouldn't care if it looked like someone smeared s**t on me if it protected me in the Arena better than any other armor I had! The best I have for Earth/Water is SS+ and this beats it by almost 400 points. My first week was the tail end of Sasquatch so when Jack came around I wasn't strong enough to get Jack+.

[D3athShade]

No it's not. You'll never finish 43 with just Eurus(regular). Unless you have 10 great friends that is.

Well, i mean, i have the big four, infernal and swamp ( all + ) maxed. Got the epic dragons, jack, pyro, wanderer but none maxed and non +. Should i max these armors or isnt it worth it? And i have 20+ friends over lvl 100 :)

[Unresolved]

Well, i mean, i have the big four, infernal and swamp ( all + ) maxed. Got the epic dragons, jack, pyro, wanderer but none maxed and non +. Should i max these armors or isnt it worth it? And i have 20+ friends over lvl 100 :)

The Bigger 4 will be better than regular legendaries. Get Dark Prince and Rocfeather(maybe). And having 20 level 100 friends isn't as important as having 20 friends with a good armor to fight against the boss.

[D3athShade]

The Bigger 4 will be better than regular legendaries. Get Dark Prince and Rocfeather(maybe). And having 20 level 100 friends isn't as important as having 20 friends with a good armor to fight against the boss.

Let's say i have friends with good armors, for example ThatzMe etc. Still don't know if ill make it to 43. Never got there and its getting kinda frustrating...

[Marco_]

water/earth

so:
- strong: spirit, air
- weak: air, fire
- neutral: water, earth
resulting sorted in descending order by combined stats from the spreadsheet:
- single strong, not weak: spirit/water, spirit/earth, spirit mono
Moontide+
Moontide
Guardian's+
Wicked Wraith+
Blackfrost+
Guardian's
Eurus+
Mantle o/t Beast+
Eldritch+
Starsong+
Blackfrost
Wicked Wraith
Ethereal+
Bone Harvester's+
Eurus
Mantle o/t Beast
Starsong
Eldritch
Spectral Captain's+
Hunter's Garb+
Ethereal
Bone Harvester's
Hunter's Garb
Spectral Captain's
Wave Charmer's+
Monk's+
Brawlers+
Chimera+

- double strong, single weak: spirit/air
Sky Guardian+
Notus+
Sky Guardian
Rocfeather+
Notus
Rocfeather
Wind Monarch's+
Exorcist's+

(drew the line at Chimera+ stats)

;-; The least bad armor I have for this boss is a not yet crafted Eurus non-plus or a level 15 Spectral non-plus...
And the boss after this I won't have enough time to seriously fight, so level 43 and plus armor will have to wait until the boss after that one... -_-

[Snd]

I have level eleven slimelord nemesis armour if you need help add me

XBD-ZYD-FRR

[Genocide788]

We just had a W/E. Why no A/E.
Pfffft. Sir Snotalot

[Roark]

water/earth

so:
- strong: spirit, air
- weak: air, fire
- neutral: water, earth
resulting sorted in descending order by combined stats from the spreadsheet:
- single strong, not weak: spirit/water, spirit/earth, spirit mono
Moontide+
Moontide
Guardian's+
Wicked Wraith+
Blackfrost+
Guardian's
Eurus+
Mantle o/t Beast+
Eldritch+
Starsong+
Blackfrost
Wicked Wraith
Ethereal+
Bone Harvester's+
Eurus
Mantle o/t Beast
Starsong
Eldritch
Spectral Captain's+
Hunter's Garb+
Ethereal
Bone Harvester's
Hunter's Garb
Spectral Captain's
Wave Charmer's+
Monk's+
Brawlers+
Chimera+

- double strong, single weak: spirit/air
Sky Guardian+
Notus+
Sky Guardian
Rocfeather+
Notus
Rocfeather
Wind Monarch's+
Exorcist's+

(drew the line at Chimera+ stats)

;-; The least bad armor I have for this boss is a not yet crafted Eurus non-plus or a level 15 Spectral non-plus...
And the boss after this I won't have enough time to seriously fight, so level 43 and plus armor will have to wait until the boss after that one... -_-

I love when you posted this for last week's boss and I love this now, thank you very much, nice to see it spelled out

pretty sure I bookmarked last week's post

[Musketeer]

Defence is building like Eurus, so weaker than the last three bosses. Defence should be 606 at level 43.

Slightly better stats on the armor than Jackalope+, but like many others as I already have that I probably won't be developing this even if I earn the materials.

I think they realised that between the Dragons and the War we need a little light relief.

[D3athShade]

well hope i'll make it to 43 :) althought i dont really have armors to fight this boss =/ maybe i should max my eurus (normal)? I'ts lvl 30 now

[deathexe]

well hope i'll make it to 43 :) althought i dont really have armors to fight this boss =/ maybe i should max my eurus (normal)? I'ts lvl 30 now

You're better off focusing on better armors like the higher end story armors instead of the eurus normal. This boss shouldn't be a priority yet.

[D3athShade]

You're better off focusing on better armors like the higher end story armors instead of the eurus normal. This boss shouldn't be a priority yet.

Swamped and Infernal + are both maxed, i find it vey hard to farm for jewels and i've never reached 43 before :( got to 35 on Phyrus. So if i don't max a boss armor i guess i'll be stuck forever no?

[Unresolved]

I'd prefer Jackalope, but I don't have that armor. So I'll max this after BK+ unless an armor that I want more comes out.

[gardibolt]

I LOVE this boss and his armor. He's downright hilarious. Even if the stats stink, I have to craft a suit of this for laughs.

And yes, Moontide beats the living snot out of this boss. I'm at level 12 with just a sidekick wearing it and may get to 15 without needing a second knight.

[XBDMRRFPN]

I am not going to wear it.
Too ugly design for me, after all I am italian

will Jackalope come back?

[BethMo]

Why do people care so much about looks - you fashionista's! If the armor is better than any of your Earth/Water armor, I wouldn't care if it looked like someone smeared s**t on me if it protected me in the Arena better than any other armor I had! The best I have for Earth/Water is SS+ and this beats it by almost 400 points. My first week was the tail end of Sasquatch so when Jack came around I wasn't strong enough to get Jack+.

Admit it, you just like this one because it's made of lime jello!

[Roark]

is it me or do you not get bonus epic energy drops when you have more than 12 EE

[Musketeer]

It's you. I had up to 17ee in the tank already in this run, but one time a few bosses ago I had over 30.

[Musketeer]

Will Jackalope come back?

No. If you missed a boss completely you will never be able to summon it at the summoning stone for extra materials, nor will it ever reappear as an Epic Boss.

[Davenex]

I wasn't around for jackalope only started playing midway through the dragons (was only able to get normal armour for phyrus), should I pursue this boss for the armour (lacking a good earth/water armour) even though at my current level I can only probably best it 17/18 times?

Also another question should I bother with crafting normal phyrus armour? Sorry if questions nooby :/

[Genocide788]

I wasn't around for jackalope only started playing midway through the dragons (was only able to get normal armour for phyrus), should I pursue this boss for the armour (lacking a good earth/water armour) even though at my current level I can only probably best it 17/18 times?

Also another question should I bother with crafting normal phyrus armour? Sorry if questions nooby :/

No, Any boss armor whereby you cannot obtain a + version(43 wins) is a waste to craft and level as the stats are comparable to the big 4 but take way more time and way more gold to max.

[D3athShade]

No, Any boss armor whereby you cannot obtain a + version(43 wins) is a waste to craft and level as the stats are comparable to the big 4 but take way more time and way more gold to max.

Ok but then i come back to my question, i have big four maxed, infernal and swap + maxed and i'm lvl 97 and never got to 43. I have over 20 friends lvl 100+ but still never got to 43. (got to 35 on phyrus) if i dont max a normal epic boss armor, won't i be stuck on getting higher ?

[Thatzme]

Ok but then i come back to my question, i have big four maxed, infernal and swap + maxed and i'm lvl 97 and never got to 43. I have over 20 friends lvl 100+ but still never got to 43. (got to 35 on phyrus) if i dont max a normal epic boss armor, won't i be stuck on getting higher ?

Normal epic boss armors stats aren't that great - which means u'll be wasting ur resources getting it to lvl70 rather than use it elsewhere. Ur next project imo should be to get dark prince+ and max it. And ofc get to 100.

It will get easier, esp when u have armors that is nice counter for the boss. What's impt though, is the management of ur EEs. How u utilise ur EEs and ofc making sure u check ingame to use ur EEs before it gets maxed is crucial. Radlonghammer's stickied thread is a good guide to ee management and how to optimally advance thru the boss lvls. My guildies also set alarms to wake up every five hrs to kill epic boss to make sure they fully utilise ee regen without wasting any.

[Genocide788]

Ok but then i come back to my question, i have big four maxed, infernal and swap + maxed and i'm lvl 97 and never got to 43. I have over 20 friends lvl 100+ but still never got to 43. (got to 35 on phyrus) if i dont max a normal epic boss armor, won't i be stuck on getting higher ?
A normal boss armor would have maybe 100-300 stat advantage over the big 4 so the difference really wouldn't be that big. I went with Big 4 all the way and managed to down 43 from Flame Summoner onwards. At that point the bosses were a little easier. Phyrus was the hardest of the 4 Dragons so don't beat yourself up about it. You just have to wait for the right boss whose elements work in your favour i guess.

[BethMo]

is it me or do you not get bonus epic energy drops when you have more than 12 EE

I bought energy for Notus when I was at level 19, and got energy drops at level 20 and 21 when I had over 30 EE.

[UN Kec]

I have to say this because everyone just seems way off.
First of all: the look of the armor is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if it's ugly, it's good.
Second: the stats are awesome. Some people favor the balanced stats of the jackalope, but for those of you who posted about this armor having worse stats than the dragon armors, you're wrong. It technically has better stats than Eurus or Boreas, and compares very well with Notus. Looks like a good week. I'm excited!

[Lieda]

I just woke up.. Saw this boss... What.... On.... Earth?

[GCSpyder]

The boss and armour looks awesome to me.... I want it! :cool:

[dd_knights]

Ok but then i come back to my question, i have big four maxed, infernal and swap + maxed and i'm lvl 97 and never got to 43. I have over 20 friends lvl 100+ but still never got to 43. (got to 35 on phyrus) if i dont max a normal epic boss armor, won't i be stuck on getting higher ?

It looks like nobody is really answering your question and it's because there is no good answer at the moment. As mentioned earlier, managing EE is important and finding a good armor match to the boss is also important, but even when all that is done, I can't see you completing level 43 with storyline armor and no gems. Unfortunately, you're stuck in a bad place and it's all due to bad timing (Gree made changes that now makes it impossible to leap from storyline to Epic Boss +)...

The problem is that Gree changed the game recently and widened the gap between the storyline and the Epic Boss battles. It used to be that you could get the best armor from the story line and then work towards the Epic Bosses, but they changed the bosses, so that they're much harder now. The gap that now exists between the Storyline and Epic Boss is so large that you'll need gems to overcome it.

For example, completing level 43 is a challenge for me and I have multiple Legendary+ armors. At times, I need to use gems to complete level 43. I also have a decent pool of friends who also have good armor (a quarter of them have better armor than me). The only reason I was able to even get to where I am is because the Android platform just started out and getting into the top 25 epic damage leader board wasn't difficult. That meant an automatic legendary+ armor... without this, I can't imagine how anyone can be expected to get a legendary+ armor using just the storyline and no gems.

Gree needs to either lower the Epic Boss difficulty or they need to add new storyline armor that will allow people to compete after the storyline. As it stands right now, after the storyline, you're kinda stuck... unless you use gems. With that said, you can get free gems from the video offers and if you save up, you can use them sparingly to get to level 43.

Here's my gem strategy (I still need it with multiple Legendary+ armor):

1) Use a gem or 2 for critical hits if you know that an extra hit may make the difference between a win and a loss.
2) Never use the 12 gem cost for repeating the battle with fresh guys. If you're that far away from beating the boss, then it's time to give up and wait until next week.
3) Plan ahead and if you think you're going to miss "playing time" throughout the week, purchase EE at the beginning of the event. This will allow you to get ahead by several hours or even days (depending on your purchase), because you can push forward into the event without using friends. Later in the event, your 10 friend limit becomes the bottleneck and purchasing EE may not help you as much.
4) As you get closer to 43, you'll need to make a judgement call and decide whether to push forward with gems or not. Try and calculate how many gems it will take to finish 43 based on the damage you're currently doing and if you think it's worth it, then go for it. Otherwise wait until next week.

Update: One more thing.
If you're willing to gamble, you could create the non-plus boss armor and fuse 2 of them together. You can get Tempered Battlegear, Guardian Battlegear, Clayplate Mantle, Combustion, and Moontide through fusion. All those in regular versions are as good or better than Legendary Boss armor. Keep in mind it's still a gamble and there's no guarantee, but at least the fusion rate is miles better than the DPC drop rate.

[Lord Of The Infernal]

My daughter cry after she saw this monster

[GCSpyder]

My daughter cry after she saw this monster

funny...:p

[ppownage]

without the eye it wouldnt be that bad...

[Lunasea]

My daughter cry after she saw this monster

GREE shame on you for making a little girl cry :p

[Eldaran]

Here's my gem strategy (I still need it with multiple Legendary+ armor):

1) Use a gem or 2 for critical hits if you know that an extra hit may make the difference between a win and a loss.



I haven´t thought of that one. Thanks

Level 43 for the last boss cost me 24 gems. At that stage it is certainly a good investment. In general I prefer to invest some gems to get a plus armor instead og opening DPCs.

[Eldaran]

My daughter cry after she saw this monster

She has excellent judgement ;)

[Hiwtey]

A bit annoying elements for new player. Will get rocfeather+ to 70 to try to kill it, just last week got to lvl 43 for the first time and would like a repeat, so if anyone got moontide could use the help =)

My code is XBD-DHQ-NVR

Hiwtey

[Marco_]

Gree needs to either lower the Epic Boss difficulty or they need to add new storyline armor that will allow people to compete after the storyline. As it stands right now, after the storyline, you're kinda stuck... unless you use gems. With that said, you can get free gems from the video offers and if you save up, you can use them sparingly to get to level 43.

Here's my gem strategy (I still need it with multiple Legendary+ armor):

1) Use a gem or 2 for critical hits if you know that an extra hit may make the difference between a win and a loss.
2) Never use the 12 gem cost for repeating the battle with fresh guys. If you're that far away from beating the boss, then it's time to give up and wait until next week.
3) Plan ahead and if you think you're going to miss "playing time" throughout the week, purchase EE at the beginning of the event. This will allow you to get ahead by several hours or even days (depending on your purchase), because you can push forward into the event without using friends. Later in the event, your 10 friend limit becomes the bottleneck and purchasing EE may not help you as much.
4) As you get closer to 43, you'll need to make a judgement call and decide whether to push forward with gems or not. Try and calculate how many gems it will take to finish 43 based on the damage you're currently doing and if you think it's worth it, then go for it. Otherwise wait until next week.

Update: One more thing.
If you're willing to gamble, you could create the non-plus boss armor and fuse 2 of them together. You can get Tempered Battlegear, Guardian Battlegear, Clayplate Mantle, Combustion, and Moontide through fusion. All those in regular versions are as good or better than Legendary Boss armor. Keep in mind it's still a gamble and there's no guarantee, but at least the fusion rate is miles better than the DPC drop rate.
There's also the alternative if 43 isn't feasable but you do have the gems [1]: Summoning Stone.

One of my problems
* 7 friends level 100+
* 6 friends level 90-100
Some of them, looking by their armors, not competing for the epic boss.

To beat a boss levels 35+ I need to field an excellent team of friends and I can maybe field 1 1/2 of those each day, which is lower than the 2 1/2 runs imposed by the 10 friend limit, so I've been PM-ing people like you to see if I can beef up the strength in the top of my friend list.


This boss I'm totally mismatched w.r.t. armors, so I'll probably just try to end up somewhere in the 20s w.r.t. level and divert some of the friends to Evil Gems farming instead. (for friends I'll only be a tank soaking hits to build up special attack energy this week in my maxed Swamp+ (double neutral). Sorry about that.)


[1]personally I don't: I need the gems for L3 TF, 4th armorsmith and L3 armorsmiths first and free gems has run nearly dry for me.

[Musketeer]

Gree changed the game recently and widened the gap between the storyline and the Epic Boss battles. It used to be that you could get the best armor from the story line and then work towards the Epic Bosses, but they changed the bosses, so that they're much harder now.

The gap that now exists between the Storyline and Epic Boss is so large that you'll need gems to overcome it.

In a nutshell you have summed up the situation as I also see it, almost. The storyline armors were supposed to get you to the level where you can beat epic bosses. Anyone can get to level 15 with storyline armors (and possibly a few friends), but people are being told not to cap the non+ armor as it's not very good; if you can't get to level 43, don't bother. I'm not sure this is necessarily correct. I think that non+ armor is supposed to be the next step after the storyline armors, and you will need a few of those in your stable (plus some strong friends) before you can reach 43 without gems.

I could be wrong, but I think people are, quite naturally, impatient to get to the 'top'. The top in this case being level 43 or more against Epic Bosses. Gree's job is to cash in on that impatience by offering a means to spend a little money to speed up the jump to 43. I'm not saying what Gree is doing is wrong, because it's the nature of all games of this type. I am wondering if the patient player can still make 43 without gems, by using the non+ Epic armors as another stepping stone.

BTW, I used gems to get my first Epic+, so I'm not in any way saying this is wrong, silly, cheating or anything else derogatory.

[Edcculus]

Interesting point musketeer. I'm level 66 with all big 4 + maxed and working on Infernal Lord. I've been able to get all of the armors since jackalope. My game got reset though, so I got set back. Even with that, I was able to get all of the 4 regular dragon armors, just not the + version on any of them.

I need to take a look at the spreadsheet, but I guess the question would be: are any of the 4 Non Plus dragon armors better than the top level 70 story armors (Dark Prince and Infernal Lord mainly). If so, it probably would be worth crafting and getting the regular version to level 70.

Edit: here are the stats compared

boreas reg - 1000 810
eurs reg - 892 908
notus reg - 715 1113
phyrus reg - 1105 738

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Infernal + 1025 1050
Dark Prince + 1120 899

So going by those numbers alone, it looks like its probably not worth it? The reg Epic armors seem to have similar stats as the level 70 + story armors. So unless you are crafting and maxing them for the variety in elements, it may not be worth it.

On the other hand, if you get Infernal + and DP + maxed and still can't get to level 43 on the boss, I guess there is no reason not to work on maxing the regular epic armors if you are willling to put the time into it.

[EljayK]

Stat wise perhaps it isn't always worth it, but I think I'm going to throw in my current situation to give a little insight on this current story/boss gap.

Right now I have the Big 4 capped. I also have Swamp+, Infernal+ and Roc+ all maxed. Working on getting the last 10 gems to smith Dark Prince+. I basically have nothing to level. I have, with these armors (and even after dark prince+ is maxed), 3 gaps in my ability to produce damage. I'm missing spirit/earth, water/spirit, and fire/air. These gaps in my elemental coverage are proving, this week particularly, bothersome. Last week I could have spent gems to get Phyrus+, and could hit summoning stone with the free gems I have to finish off the last 2 materials. But I won't, because it isn't that much better than Infernal, and doesn't close any elemental gap. So given that my armorsmiths are still belting out armors, and I have all these free armors from tournament wins and epic boss rewards taking up space, I'm leveling up Eurus normal to try to cover water/spirit. Is it "worth it" to level the non+ Eurus? In my situation I think so. It will come out stronger than spectral captain+, and covers the gap. Will it let me beat the epic boss up to 43 and get this weeks Epic+? Not even close. But combined with rocfeather+ and some friends, it may.

Logically it is completely worth it to level the non+ version of an epic boss armor if:
1) You have no other armor to level AND;
2) It will cover a damage output that you are currently unable to fill.

Storyline wise there is only one elemental combo you cannot make, and that is fire/air. However, spectral captain, and chimera corp have stats that leave for something to be gained. In the case of spectral captain+, it may be worth it to level if you have nothing else to level and need a water/spirit, but in the case of chimera corp, the stats are so abysmal that you will get much better damage output somewhere else.

This weeks boss is effective against all 7 of my armors, with the exception of swamp shaman, which receives no benefit nor is hindered. I would not put leveling a non+ epic boss armor above leveling a +version in priority, but if it's all you have to do, it's not a bad idea. If you aren't constantly crafting armor, you're losing by stagnation. The goal to keep getting better is to never stagnate.

[Musketeer]

I think Boreas regular is worth developing, because it's significantly better than AA+ to which it is complement. Two AA+ and a Boreas should give you a really good run at the next Fire/Spirit Epic Boss, and any Fire/Earth that comes along in the future too.

Eurus attack is better than Spectral Captain+ by over 100 piont, so I think if you haven't already heavily invested in Spectral than that is probably worth it, especially if you're going to be in time to use it against the current Slimelord boss and you want that armor.

The others, probably not worth it since as you show you can craft a bigger Four Armor that is better, for the same cost in gold and materials, if not time and effort spent gathering them.

[Edcculus]

I agree with that ejay - it definately cant hurt anything if you have all of the worth while story + armors maxed and are still trying to bridge that gap. At the very least it will help even out the "element portfolio" in your armor collection.

Thanks for the great explanation too. I'll probably end up waiting to craft some of the regular versions once I get Infernal + and Dark Prince + maxed.

[dd_knights]

I am wondering if the patient player can still make 43 without gems, by using the non+ Epic armors as another stepping stone.

On Android (without guild bonuses), I think the answer is no, but I'd love to hear other people's opinions and strategies. If you have 10 friends using awesome armor, I think you can get close, but you'll likely come up a bit short every time. This can be changed in your favor with a few gems, but without gems... I think it's near impossible. Having non-plus legendary boss armor can help (they're better than the big 4), but it's not going to allow you to finish level 43 without gems.

At level 43 with the current state of bosses, I'm usually left with a few thousand hp left after my first attempt. This can range from 2K to 10K. I think if I were to use Storyline+ armor, I would be left with a few thousand more. The main problem is that without gems, you can only use 5 more EE before the boss disappears. This means your primary knight and possibly a friend with good armor. The boss will automatically hit you with back-to-back crits on your second attempt (no idea why, but it always does) and this means you will only get a few shots off with your primary. If the boss has 7K (or more) in hp left, this is going to be an impossible task without gems.

Now with that said, with some careful planning and prudent gem spending, you can probably manage this. Knowing that you need to get the boss down to a low enough level to kill him during the second round is vital to your success. You don't want to wait until round 2 to start using gems for automatic crits (you'll be doing less damage at this time). What you want to do is find your hardest hitting knight in round 1 and throw in some extra crits via gems at that point. This will maximize your gem spending, but it's a bit risky, since you could end up spending some gems and still not win (which would really suck). Of course, if you have some gems to spare, the safest method is to buy additional energy for 10 gems.

[XBDMRRFPN]

I think it's obviously a business
they try to get money from the impatience of the players.
It's a very clever choice actually, so the point made by Musketeer is correct from this side
On the other hand what Edcculus said is correct about the armors.
The storyline+ are better of most of the non+ epic, so unless you want the diversity in your wardrobe (the best storyline+ don't cover all combinations that are actually 10, if we consider that the color in the top doesn't make any difference) there is no point in topping an epic.
Unless what I said about the edge in favor of strong defenses is true (it hasn't been demonstrated at all yet), then a Notus could be worth to upgrade

in any case I wouldn't even bother to craft the current one

[JRod4928]

got through 9 levels in one day. Not too bad.

[Musketeer]

I may not be crafting the armor, but I like the animations for this boss. The vomit attack is worth getting hits a few times just to see.

[Conan69]

No good spirit armours, this one is gonna be tough for me

Hello vubby, I just read your post and wondered if you could add me. I'm level 116, XBB-HXV-ZVD
Conan

[UN Kec]

You are all making an interesting point about the gap but I think you are exaggerating it a little bit. The problem is, we just had the dragon event and those bosses were harder than this weeks boss or the bosses before the dragons.

That said, until the past two weeks, all I had was the big four maxed. I didn't have any of the 3* story armors. Despite that, I was able to get notus+ and phyrus+ using only my big four. (I couldn't get boreas+ or eurus+ because my big four weren't even maxed at that point!) To do this, I had to spend 22 gems to summon notus two times because I couldn't beat the level 42 boss. For phyrus, I used 20 gems on E early on so that I would have more time later to use my friends.

I also know people who got all the boss+ armors using the storyline armors. (The bigger four). If you find that storyline armors aren't getting you to level 43 on the boss, you either have weak friends, or don't know how to effectively maximize your energy usage. Now that bosses have dropped back down to Deva stats, the big four should actually be more than enough to beat the bosses to level 43, assuming you have at least 10 level 100+ friends with legendary armors. Many people probably would disagree with me, but I am speaking from experience. I DID unlock 2 legendary+ armors using only the big four. So it is possible, the gap is not too large yet. And it is definitely not too large for people with Swamp, Roc, Infernal, and DP. It should be effortless if you have those four maxed.

[Musketeer]

I DID unlock 2 legendary+ armors using only the big four.

and 42 gems...

[Biagio93]

add me for boss :P lv 624

WBB GYZ ZYB

:)

[UN Kec]

and 42 gems...

42 gems isn't a lot. I get between 5 and 20 every day from video offers. But my point was to show that if the big four can do it with the help of 42 gems, the storyline armors can do it without gems. If you look on the last page, people were saying you have to use gems even with the story armors. I just wanted to correct them and encourage them to keep trying. The gap is still small enough. Max the big four then max the bigger four and you will beat the epic bosses 43 times easily.

[dd_knights]

42 gems isn't a lot. I get between 5 and 20 every day from video offers. But my point was to show that if the big four can do it with the help of 42 gems, the storyline armors can do it without gems. If you look on the last page, people were saying you have to use gems even with the story armors. I just wanted to correct them and encourage them to keep trying. The gap is still small enough. Max the big four then max the bigger four and you will beat the epic bosses 43 times easily.

I'm on Android and we don't have guilds or guild bonuses, so maybe that's what's different here. I have Legendary+ armor and even when matching up elements, beating level 43 can be a challenge. By the time level 43 rolls around, the bosses hit like trucks and having a good set of friends certainly helps, but I have never beaten a level 43 boss in just 1 round (i.e. 5 knights). I've always needed the help of the additional 2 knights to beat level 43 (i.e. it's never easy and it's always close).

In most cases, if I beat level 43 without gems, it's because I barely squeaked by... it's certainly not easy and I can't imagine doing it with story level armor and no gems.

Also to be clear, you beat Phyrus on level 43 with only the Big 4 and 3 friends (no gems, except to speed up the beginning of the event)? I'm assuming you used a 5+2 strategy (i.e. 3 + 2 friends and 1 + 1 friend)? Knowing my experience on Android, I just can't imagine how that's even possible.

[EljayK]

Having decent guild bonuses and a great set list of friends last week for Phyrus, I can't imagine how beating Phyrus on 43 is possible at all in just storyline without gems. It most certainly isn't with maxed swamp shaman+ and maxed HH+ with 4 friends all wearing maxed Jackalope+ at 1600/1600. Without gems and wearing those armors he still had 3k left. I tried twice. 4/3 strategy each time, same results.

[UN Kec]

Also to be clear, you beat Phyrus on level 43 with only the Big 4 and 3 friends (no gems, except to speed up the beginning of the event)? I'm assuming you used a 5+2 strategy (i.e. 3 + 2 friends and 1 + 1 friend)? Knowing my experience on Android, I just can't imagine how that's even possible.

If you are using the 5 knights followed by two strategy you will never win. The best strategy is:

Fight 1: main, friend, friend
Fight 2: one of your backup knights, main, friend, friend

It is important that you use 4 friends the second time and that the first knight is not your main because in the second fight, the boss ALWAYS opens with two crits. Let your crappy knight absorb these two shots.

The reason 3/4 is better than 5/2 is because if you actually do the math, 100% bonus followed by a 25% bonus actually does less damage than a 50% bonus followed by a 75% bonus.

I also have a 12% guild bonus on each of my knights so I do have that going for me.
As for the last post about losing to phyrus twice, you must have had bad luck(e.g. Lots of misses)....also you said you were running 4/3. 4/3 does not work as well as 3/4! 4/3 means that in the second fight, your main knight will die in two or three hits. Assuming your main is stronger than your backup knight (which it is), you want your crappy knight to die in two hits not your main! This will let your main get in two additional hits......which is about 3000 damage. Therein lies your problem dude

[JashGanz]

I must be one of the few that actually likes the look of the armor and the boss for that matter and this armor is really solid because i have no good earth+water.

[EljayK]

As for the last post about losing to phyrus twice, you must have had bad luck(e.g. Lots of misses)....also you said you were running 4/3. 4/3 does not work as well as 3/4! 4/3 means that in the second fight, your main knight will die in two or three hits. Assuming your main is stronger than your backup knight (which it is), you want your crappy knight to die in two hits not your main! This will let your main get in two additional hits......which is about 3000 damage. Therein lies your problem dude

I still don't believe the math of it. However, the 12% bonus does change it up quite a bit from mine. (5% on each element). But I never thought about 3/4 instead of 4/3. Makes sense. Thanks for the headsup! I won't be trying to get 43 too vehemently this week, but I will definitely be testing it if I get to that point, and will be using it next week with the new boss.

[Musketeer]

If you are using the 5 knights followed by two strategy you will never win. The best strategy is:

Fight 1: main, friend, friend
Fight 2: one of your backup knights, main, friend, friend



That does burn up 4 of your 10 available friends for the day though, so you'll only get in two levels per day. Fine if you're close to 43 with plenty of time on the clock.

I like the 3/4 logic. I still wonder if, with strong armors for both your backup knights, you can get away with 5/2. IO've always used 5/2, with success. Usually the boss has very little damage left to go, and using the knowledge fro the first round (and BethMo's Formula) you can judge how many hits it will take, and who to use from your friends. Of course multiple misses, and those double specials to open from the Boss, can change everything.

42 is still a lot of gems in my book, though I am starting to get better luck with the video offers, 6 gems so far today. Gree would charge you over $5 for those gems, and as you see the handouts for both Arena and Epic Boss are very shy with gems. If you still have training fields to upgrade that's a better investment. Once you have that, then beating the boss is probably the next best thing, since the chests are so uneconomical.

I'm not really interested in this boss but I'm fighting him anyway, and judging from my leaderboard position many others are taking a week off.

[dd_knights]

If you are using the 5 knights followed by two strategy you will never win. The best strategy is:

Fight 1: main, friend, friend
Fight 2: one of your backup knights, main, friend, friend

It is important that you use 4 friends the second time and that the first knight is not your main because in the second fight, the boss ALWAYS opens with two crits. Let your crappy knight absorb these two shots.

The reason 3/4 is better than 5/2 is because if you actually do the math, 100% bonus followed by a 25% bonus actually does less damage than a 50% bonus followed by a 75% bonus.

I also have a 12% guild bonus on each of my knights so I do have that going for me.
As for the last post about losing to phyrus twice, you must have had bad luck(e.g. Lots of misses)....also you said you were running 4/3. 4/3 does not work as well as 3/4! 4/3 means that in the second fight, your main knight will die in two or three hits. Assuming your main is stronger than your backup knight (which it is), you want your crappy knight to die in two hits not your main! This will let your main get in two additional hits......which is about 3000 damage. Therein lies your problem dude

I see what you're saying about 4/3 vs 3/4. This make sense, but 3000 damage? I'm not so sure.

Also, your math for the 4/3 strategy vs 5/2 strategy is flawed. In fact, it might actually be better to go 2/5 now that I think about it. Going 2/5 allows you to throw in a backup knight to take the 2 crits on the second round, yet still allow you to run the 5/2 strategy.

Anyhow, going back to the math, the math is flawed, because 5/2 is actually superior in terms of output damage, but 4/3 in reality may be better because friends are better than backup knights. In the 4/3 strategy, you can use 4 friends instead of 3. I personally never use 4/3 and haven't tested it out, because I only like to use 2 friends per attempt. On Android, if I start using 4 friends per attempt, it puts me at a massive leaderboard disadvantage, which means I won't get my free armor. Ultimately, I want each of my friends to output maximum damage to compete on the leaderboard... in order to do this, a 5/2 strategy is important.

Anyhow, there's some good input coming out of this... the 12% guild bonus is something I wish we had for Android!

Also, to illustrate the damage output, let's assume every knight is doing 100 damage.

100 + 100
100 + 100
100 + 100
100 + 100
100 + 100
100 + 25
100 + 25
Total: 1250 for 5/2

100 + 50
100 + 50
100 + 50
100 + 75
100 + 75
100 + 75
100 + 75
Total: 1150 for 4/3

The 5/2 strategy is 8.7% stronger overall, if we use the exact same knights. In reality, if you're employing the 4/3 strategy, you'll likely be using a friend who may be able to compensate for the 8.7% difference.

[Add XBC WNR XDD]

My favourite boss so far! Especially the special attack where he spews slime. :p I already have Jack+ but I'm pushing for the + version of this just because I know that my seven year old is going to go nuts when he can equip it on the earth night that's named after him. :D:cool::D

[aznzeon]

you guys make it sound like this leap from storyline to epic + is so impossible now. I had big 4 and infernal and swamp maxed didnt even get prince yet at around lvl 85 and i was able to beat the lvl 43 of the deva to get my first epic +. its really not that hard if you plan out your ee. GEMS IS NOT NECCESSARY

[KayOrzz]

and that is why we keep privileged information for the privileged, away from the unbelievers

[Mmmozzy]

I like the way this one looks, it's cray.
I'm a level 87 with the big 4 and swamp shaman + (lvl 50). I have 34 gems, any idea what I should spend them on? Almost used them on the dpc but I rarely get gem offers and I know the odds are bad. Any chance I could break lvl 43 on the epic boss or is 34 just not enough gems? I only got to 25 on phyrus without spending gems if that helps as a reference point

[dd_knights]

I like the way this one looks, it's cray.
I'm a level 87 with the big 4 and swamp shaman + (lvl 50). I have 34 gems, any idea what I should spend them on? Almost used them on the dpc but I rarely get gem offers and I know the odds are bad. Any chance I could break lvl 43 on the epic boss or is 34 just not enough gems? I only got to 25 on phyrus without spending gems if that helps as a reference point

I would spend the gems on getting your training grounds to level 3 (although it's a boring decision). I would avoid DPC at all costs (at this point in time and maybe even forever).

As for using gems on this boss... I'd say if you can get to level 40 without gems, I would consider using the gems to finish level 43 of the boss. Or if you want to be sure you get enough materials, it might be better to use 33 gems at the summoning stone after completing level 40.

[KayOrzz]

don't spend on anything except level TFs til you've maxed them all, period

[UN Kec]

I see what you're saying about 4/3 vs 3/4. This make sense, but 3000 damage? I'm not so sure.

Also, your math for the 4/3 strategy vs 5/2 strategy is flawed. In fact, it might actually be better to go 2/5 now that I think about it. Going 2/5 allows you to throw in a backup knight to take the 2 crits on the second round, yet still allow you to run the 5/2 strategy.

The 5/2 strategy is 8.7% stronger overall, if we use the exact same knights. In reality, if you're employing the 4/3 strategy, you'll likely be using a friend who may be able to compensate for the 8.7% difference.

Okay first of all...I didn't invent this strategy, it was taught to me by players who have played a lot longer than me. In fact, the 3/4 and 4/3 are what is supported by all the top players.

Now, to answer your math. Here is one mess up: you assumed every knight does 100 damage. That is wrong.

Main knights' stats are 50% higher than backup knights. E.g. your main has about 600 health and 300 of each offense and defense(approximately) while your backup knights have about 400/200/200 respectively.

So let's try again:
Your way:

100 (your main)
67 (a backup)
67 (a backup)
100 (a friend)
100 (a friend)

=434
x2
=868

Now the second fight:

100 (your main)
100 (your friend)

=200
x1.25
=250

Total = 1118 damage


Now, my way:

Fight 1:

100 (main knight)
100 (friend)
100 (friend)
=300
x1.50
=450

Fight 2:
67 (backup knight)
100 (main knight)
100 (friend)
100 (friend)
=367
x1.75
=642.25

Total = 1092.25


Your way did 25.75 more damage.

Wow...I guess your way is better....BUT WAIT. You forgot the whole point of the conversation dude. I was trying to do the most damage possible for someone who only has the big four.

Meaning if I do it your way, every knight won't do 100 (or even 67) damage. The three friends you use will do 100
damage, but the 4 knights of your own will do a fraction of that. Like 50 or less. So here is what I do, use 3 of my own crappy knights, then use 4 of my friends who have fully maxed Jian+ armors.

You see?

This wasn't about finding the best way to kill the boss using 7 knights equipped with the same awesome armor. This was about finding a way to make up for the fact that I have crappy armor but my friends have the best armors in the game. By using this 3/4 method, I capitalize on the strength of my friends. THAT is how I beat the lvl 43 Phyrus. I used my Notus+ to tank the beginning of the second fight, and I used my HH+ on my main in both fights. They barely did any damage, but the four Jian plusses wrecked him.


Here is my point. If you have 3 boss plus armors unlocked and maxed out, then you're set...getting to lvl 43 isn't hard. But if you are like me, and until a week ago, you had zero boss+ armors, you can still get to level 43 using powerful friends, quite easily.


This is my last post on this subject...too tired of people arguing. Just know this, I didn't say any of this to offend anyone or tell them they are wrong. What I was trying to do was share knowledge that I found useful when people gave it to me. I'm trying to empower you and let you know, it isn't nearly as hard as you think, hang in there, play it smart, and you will have a boss+ by the end of this week. Good luck to everyone!

[KayOrzz]

forget it kec, they're unbelievers i tell ya, but joo be laughing all da way to da bank wit ja plusses y'all

[XBDMRRFPN]

Okay first of all...I didn't invent this strategy, it was taught to me by players who have played a lot longer than me. In fact, the 3/4 and 4/3 are what is supported by all the top players.

Now, to answer your math. Here is one mess up: you assumed every knight does 100 damage. That is wrong.

Main knights' stats are 50% higher than backup knights. E.g. your main has about 600 health and 300 of each offense and defense(approximately) while your backup knights have about 400/200/200 respectively.

So let's try again:
Your way:

100 (your main)
67 (a backup)
67 (a backup)
100 (a friend)
100 (a friend)

=434
x2
=868

Now the second fight:

100 (your main)
100 (your friend)

=200
x1.25
=250

Total = 1118 damage


Now, my way:

Fight 1:

100 (main knight)
100 (friend)
100 (friend)
=300
x1.50
=450

Fight 2:
67 (backup knight)
100 (main knight)
100 (friend)
100 (friend)
=367
x1.75
=642.25

Total = 1092.25


Your way did 25.75 more damage.

Wow...I guess your way is better....BUT WAIT. You forgot the whole point of the conversation dude. I was trying to do the most damage possible for someone who only has the big four.

Meaning if I do it your way, every knight won't do 100 (or even 67) damage. The three friends you use will do 100
damage, but the 4 knights of your own will do a fraction of that. Like 50 or less. So here is what I do, use 3 of my own crappy knights, then use 4 of my friends who have fully maxed Jian+ armors.

You see?

This wasn't about finding the best way to kill the boss using 7 knights equipped with the same awesome armor. This was about finding a way to make up for the fact that I have crappy armor but my friends have the best armors in the game. By using this 3/4 method, I capitalize on the strength of my friends. THAT is how I beat the lvl 43 Phyrus. I used my Notus+ to tank the beginning of the second fight, and I used my HH+ on my main in both fights. They barely did any damage, but the four Jian plusses wrecked him.


Here is my point. If you have 3 boss plus armors unlocked and maxed out, then you're set...getting to lvl 43 isn't hard. But if you are like me, and until a week ago, you had zero boss+ armors, you can still get to level 43 using powerful friends, quite easily.


This is my last post on this subject...too tired of people arguing. Just know this, I didn't say any of this to offend anyone or tell them they are wrong. What I was trying to do was share knowledge that I found useful when people gave it to me. I'm trying to empower you and let you know, it isn't nearly as hard as you think, hang in there, play it smart, and you will have a boss+ by the end of this week. Good luck to everyone!
I agree with you
the problem is when you have friends (100+) wearing crappy armors who knows why...
the strongest friend I have are less than 100 but with Aegis, the others go with AA and stuff like this...
so if you have friends that use his best on the main character ok, if they wear whatever untopped non epic it's very hard...

[dd_knights]

This is my last post on this subject...too tired of people arguing. Just know this, I didn't say any of this to offend anyone or tell them they are wrong. What I was trying to do was share knowledge that I found useful when people gave it to me. I'm trying to empower you and let you know, it isn't nearly as hard as you think, hang in there, play it smart, and you will have a boss+ by the end of this week. Good luck to everyone!

Lol, I'm not sure why you're getting so angry. Are you seriously getting mad? I thought we were having an intelligent conversation, until you started your tantrum. I'm not sure what to say... sorry?

Like I said earlier, I prefer 5/2 because it works for me (I need to compete on the leaderboard too). I just know from personal experience that having just the big 4 made it impossible for me to reach level 43 of the epic boss (I wasn't even close). I know for a fact that going the 4/3 method wouldn't have changed a thing. Even if going 4/3 allowed me to progress a bit further, I would eventually run out of the use of friends.

Now with that said, I'm on Android, so I don't have a 12% guild bonus and I only had a few friends that were higher than me at the time. Luckily, the leaderboard was weak, so I got reward bonuses that helped me along. All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how others are going to bridge that gap. Obviously for you and UN, you guys are pros at this game and I can only hope to reach your level one day, but in the meantime, I will have to slum it with my inferior finger tapping.

Btw, I'm being facetious on purpose because of your tantrum (if you couldn't tell).

FWIW, this whole conversation started, because one guy asked what he should do next. He couldn't pass level 43 and was wondering if he should build non-plus epic boss armor as a stepping stone. According to you, he just needs to use 3/4 method and hang in there. Oh ya and join a guild of children with super jians.

Btw, I'm being facetious again. I truly do believe. ;)

[BethMo]

Meaning if I do it your way, every knight won't do 100 (or even 67) damage. The three friends you use will do 100
damage, but the 4 knights of your own will do a fraction of that. Like 50 or less.

And there's the key. There is no one-size-fits-all answer as to whether 5+2 with 3 friends or 4+3 (or 3+4) with 4 friends will do more damage -- it all depends on the armor you and your friends have available. You really do have to do the math if you want to fully optimize.

[Blurpies]

What are the stats for the non + version of this armor?

[KayOrzz]

case closed, kec has been reprimanded for revealing privileged information.

[Jello]

What are the stats for the non + version of this armor?

Click the Data Sheet in my signature.

[Matti1992]

This boss and armor looks ugly! It does have good stats though, I missed Jackalope so I could really do with a Water/Earth armor. Not that I could get to 43 though so i'll pass this boss. I'll fight it a bit to get some rewards, but I'll use my friends to farm some evil jewels.

[JRod4928]

not having much trouble with this boss.... got rocfeather robes+ (spirit/wind) for my main character. So I'm doing about 600 damage per hit.... the level 100+ friends I have help a lot though :)

My character is at level 40. I'm going to beat level 15 today, with the help of some gems perhaps. There's no way i'm making it to lv43.

What level do you think is required to beat level 15?

[KayOrzz]

not having much trouble with this boss.... got rocfeather robes+ (spirit/wind) for my main character. So I'm doing about 600 damage per hit.... the level 100+ friends I have help a lot though :)

My character is at level 40. I'm going to beat level 15 today, with the help of some gems perhaps. There's no way i'm making it to lv43.

What level do you think is required to beat level 15?

My advice, save the gems.

[momocoast]

not having much trouble with this boss.... got rocfeather robes+ (spirit/wind) for my main character. So I'm doing about 600 damage per hit.... the level 100+ friends I have help a lot though :)

My character is at level 40. I'm going to beat level 15 today, with the help of some gems perhaps. There's no way i'm making it to lv43.

What level do you think is required to beat level 15?

yes wait when i began i cant beat level 15
now i am lvl 75 i go to lvl 23 with only one friend in one shot

the more you lvl up, the more you are strong and have life and your flower too

my advice keep growing(lvl 100), craft the big for + and you will easyly reach lvl21

[Marco_]

My advice, save the gems.
Yep.
Swamp+ 816/1120 (1936 combined)
Slimebane (non-plus) 908/857 (1765 combined)
So with that storyline armor you'll have better stats for an earth/water armor and gems in your pocket to spend on your castle (TFs, smiths).

[drhawk]

The armor looks ugly and I can't get to lvl 43 anyway. My goal is level 21 to get the free armours to upgrade my infernal or shaman. I probably won't use any friends and definately will not use any of my precious gems ;)

[C04dy]

Question if I get 50 to craft regular slime armour and get that to 35, then get another 50 from summon stone will the slime armour + be 50 globs to craft?

[Unresolved]

Question if I get 50 to craft regular slime armour and get that to 35, then get another 50 from summon stone will the slime armour + be 50 globs to craft?

Yes. Though that's a lot of gems :p.

[deathexe]

Question if I get 50 to craft regular slime armour and get that to 35, then get another 50 from summon stone will the slime armour + be 50 globs to craft?

Yes, but that would be quite an impractical use of 275 gems.

[C04dy]

Well I know I will get close to 40 kills but just making sure if I don't have gems at the time I can summon and wanted to make sure it would be 50 globes for the second crafting also,
Thanks guys

[dd_knights]

Yes, but that would be quite an impractical use of 275 gems.

Not as impractical as the Cape Spectacular, yet people still buy it. Mind you, I automatically think hacker/cheater when I see the cape. What kind of sane person would buy that thing? I guess the same type of person that has all the top armors in plus versions... we all know how insanely stupid the drop rates are on the DPC chests. So when someone has all the best armors and every set of wings and so on... it screams out 1 of 2 things.

1) Stupidity
2) Cheater <-- this is more likely, because true stupidity is only for the select few

Take your pick. Lol.

Haha, can't wait for Eunuchorn to jump into this thread and talk about how much money he wastes on this game and his enlightened view on economics.

[Marco_]

So when someone has all the best armors and every set of wings and so on... it screams out 1 of 2 things.

1) Stupidity
2) Cheater <-- this is more likely, because true stupidity is only for the select few

Take your pick. Lol.

3) incredible luck with the free gems offers?
(Some people seem to (annoyingly) get dozens of free gems each day...)


Banner for Nemesis+ just showed up which oddly enough seems to show a dual element nemesis?!?
(water/air: 1 neutral element and 1 strong/weak element?!?)

[forcefed4door]

3) incredible luck with the free gems offers?
(Some people seem to (annoyingly) get dozens of free gems each day...)
Banner for Nemesis+ just showed up which oddly enough seems to show a dual element nemesis?!?
(water/air: 1 neutral element and 1 strong/weak element?!?)
I just got shafted. I jumped on the offer because water wind was a good combo and better than atlantean avenger., I got crappy mono spirit though. False advertising and they already changed the banner after I used the gems. The stats aren't even what the banner said... not cool.

[Marco_]

Hmm, now I'm wondering if the next boss might perhaps be water/air...

[dd_knights]

3) incredible luck with the free gems offers?
(Some people seem to (annoyingly) get dozens of free gems each day...)

Incredibly lucky would mean 1 great armor after hundreds of attempts. Multiple great armors is not luck... pick options 1 or 2.

[Revelate]

Hmm, now I'm wondering if the next boss might perhaps be water/air...

So soon after Boreas? I haven't done a historical analysis but I suspect there's usually 5+ weeks between given combos? (Jack to Slimelord ish)

I suspect it was just a mistaken content posting. Happens all the time at organizations which are much larger than Gree.

[Musketeer]

So soon after Boreas? I haven't done a historical analysis but I suspect there's usually 5+ weeks between given combos?

I'm keeping a record of bosses I've faced, and I'm thinking we're due an Earth/Air Boss. Failing that, Water/Fire.

[XBDMRRFPN]

in that case I will do all effort to get 43

[Revelate]

I'm keeping a record of bosses I've faced, and I'm thinking we're due an Earth/Air Boss. Failing that, Water/Fire.

I tried to do some research but hit some walls on the older bosses and made some uneducated assumptions on others; does this match your list?



Boss Name Element(s)
Steam Wizard Water/Fire
Grim Gargoyle
Satyr
Varuna, Asura Lord Earth/Water ?
Frost Giant
Efreet Spirit/Fire ?
Bone Dragon
Gremlin Forgemaster Earth/Fire
Flamegem Construct Fire
Cumulo Nimboss
King Crab Water
Drax the Dragon Rider Water/Earth ?
Hippolyta the Huntress Spirit/Earth
Gremlin Battlesuit Earth
Mountain Man Gorlog
Ten Ton Skeleton Spirit/- ?
Hydromancer Water/-
Horrible Wing-Wurm Air/Earth
Admiral Hateheart Fire/Spirit
Dragon of the Deeps Water/Earth
Hannibal Half-Dragon Earth/Fire
Faerie Dragon Swarm Spirit/-
Dragon Tortoise Earth/Air
Sirens Water/Spirit
Twin Jian Fire/Water
Sasquatch Spirit/Earth
Flame Eater Fire/Air
Jackalope Water/Earth
Deva Fire/Spirit
Wandering Flame Fire/-
Eurus Water/Spirit
Boreas Air/Water
Notus Spirit/Air
Phyrus Fire/Earth
Slimelord Earth/Water

[forcefed4door]

So after being shafted with the bs false advertising banner with the water wind nemisis, the banner is still wrong... I maxed the nemisis+ mono spirit that I didn't want, and the attack is max at 633 and defence is at mid 500... wtf

[XBDMRRFPN]

I tried to do some research but hit some walls on the older bosses and made some uneducated assumptions on others; does this match your list?



Boss Name Element(s)
Steam Wizard Water/Fire
Grim Gargoyle
Satyr
Varuna, Asura Lord Earth/Water ?
Frost Giant
Efreet Spirit/Fire ?
Bone Dragon
Gremlin Forgemaster Earth/Fire
Flamegem Construct Fire
Cumulo Nimboss
King Crab Water
Drax the Dragon Rider Water/Earth ?
Hippolyta the Huntress Spirit/Earth
Gremlin Battlesuit Earth
Mountain Man Gorlog
Ten Ton Skeleton Spirit/- ?
Hydromancer Water/-
Horrible Wing-Wurm Air/Earth
Admiral Hateheart Fire/Spirit
Dragon of the Deeps Water/Earth
Hannibal Half-Dragon Earth/Fire
Faerie Dragon Swarm Spirit/-
Dragon Tortoise Earth/Air
Sirens Water/Spirit
Twin Jian Fire/Water
Sasquatch Spirit/Earth
Flame Eater Fire/Air
Jackalope Water/Earth
Deva Fire/Spirit
Wandering Flame Fire/-
Eurus Water/Spirit
Boreas Air/Water
Notus Spirit/Air
Phyrus Fire/Earth
Slimelord Earth/Water


I see that wandering flame has been changed to dual color?

[deathexe]

I see that wandering flame has been changed to dual color?

It's back to fire already I believe. Fire was its original element.

[Musketeer]

It's back to fire already I believe. Fire was its original element.

It was was originally not fire, then they changed it to fire, then changed it again, then changed it back to fire.

[Marco_]

It was was originally not fire, then they changed it to fire, then changed it again, then changed it back to fire.
Wait, wasn't the mess only with the armor, but not the boss?

[EljayK]

Wait, wasn't the mess only with the armor, but not the boss?

The elemental issues were with the armor only. The boss stayed mono fire his entire duration. It was the armor that kept flip flopping, even while the boss was still active.

[Jello]

I tried to do some research but hit some walls on the older bosses and made some uneducated assumptions on others; does this match your list?

Hey Revelate... nice list. I have taken this list, filled in the missing bosses/elements, and added it to the Data Sheet with some additional fields (and gave you credit in the Data Sheet Admin thread).

[Revelate]

Hey Revelate... nice list. I have taken this list, filled in the missing bosses/elements, and added it to the Data Sheet with some additional fields (and gave you credit in the Data Sheet Admin thread).

Ah shucks Jello; thank you but honestly I simply codified the information I could find here on the forum, in the armor data sheet, and finally the Wiki. I was a little surprised we didn't have it somewhere readily accessible that I could find but credit honestly goes to the various members who created and maintained the datasheet, Beth, and a few others I don't know about over time.

[Silent follower]

I'm keeping a record of bosses I've faced, and I'm thinking we're due an Earth/Air Boss. Failing that, Water/Fire.

What about a mono Air boss? There hasn't been such since February Cumulo Nimboss.

[EljayK]

I think mono bosses fall very short usually. With more powerful armors and multiple guild bonuses, I think a mono boss would have been the best "breather" after all those power house dragons. I love mono element bosses, if only for fusing double mono legendaries for better chances at decent armors.

[Lieda]

Mono armors need more love! Why not?

Of course its unfair now that with guild bonuses they would get only half of the possible extra power. But then.. Why not make it so that they take bonuses from their matching and element, aaand from the element their are strong against, i.e water fire!

I love mono armors! They seem classy! Not to mention they can never take doubled damage counter, id like to see a tank spec mono armor!

[Musketeer]

Looks like I'm going to beat Glorg levl 43 tomorrow with a rag-tag team of knights, of which none have very suitable armor. My third knight is using a saucepan for a helmet, a dustbin lid for a shield, and wields a pointy stick.

The difference is having powerful friends who can do the killing for me, plus the weakness of Glorg compared to the last three Ancient Dragons.

[paganizer]

Wish I had powerful friends. Granted only lvl 67 (with big4) and only halfways with WW which is my only decent armor against slimelord, but can't even make it to lvl 21!
I'd appreciate it if some of the topplayers here could spare a friend spot :)

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[Marco_]

Looks like I'm going to beat Glorg levl 43 tomorrow with a rag-tag team of knights, of which none have very suitable armor. My third knight is using a saucepan for a helmet, a dustbin lid for a shield, and wields a pointy stick.
The difference is having powerful friends who can do the killing for me, plus the weakness of Glorg compared to the last three Ancient Dragons.
If I had wanted to, my friends could have dragged me to level 35 with my horrible AA+, CA+, Swamp+ setup, but I decided to stop at 28, so my friends can be assigned to Evil Jewels farm duty.
For the next 3 days, I'll just be doing 3/2 runs at the epic boss doing less than half the health bar in damage each time a bit to protect my damage leaderboard ranking and because there's zero cost associated anyway...

[EljayK]

Looks like I'm going to beat Glorg levl 43 tomorrow with a rag-tag team of knights, of which none have very suitable armor. My third knight is using a saucepan for a helmet, a dustbin lid for a shield, and wields a pointy stick.

The difference is having powerful friends who can do the killing for me, plus the weakness of Glorg compared to the last three Ancient Dragons.

Woke up this morning and got to 40. I've been extremely casual so far. (saturday I didn't even pick up the game). I'm using some really underpowered armor. How you ask!? I got 5 friends with moontide. dat 1900 att.

[BethMo]

My third knight is using a saucepan for a helmet, a dustbin lid for a shield, and wields a pointy stick.

Now I want them to make that armor. I would wear it!

[Bearsuo]

For the next 3 days, I'll just be doing 3/2 runs at the epic boss doing less than half the health bar in damage each time a bit to protect my damage leaderboard ranking and because there's zero cost associated anyway...

Q - How does Epic KOD with Spectral, SS, HH as your line up, go?

[ZerkaDerka]

4 kills to go until I hit the 43 mark... I could really use a little help though. If anyone has Moontide please add me! :D

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[forcefed4door]

I have nemisis+ which made it easy wbb crb nwy

[D3athShade]

well i got to 35. Guess ill get to 37 or smth max unless he drops some additional EE. Again, no luck for me :( hope ill get a boss soon for which i have the good armors against cuz it just aint working atm. I'm even that desperate that i'm maxing the 4 epic dragons armors (normal since i didnt get to 43...)

[Musketeer]

Less than 24 hours to go. I got my 43, but am unlikely to craft the armor as I already have a good water/air, and plenty of gaps elsewhere.

I was hoping for somethinh nice from the 5 gold keys but no, just a bunch of crappy materials I didn't want and could have collected in a couple of hours if I did.

Starting to get excited about the next boss, more than I am about imminently getting the BK+ and having to level it inch by painful inch.

I'm thinking Earth/Air is due and I need one, though I don't have the best armor to line up against it. Shouldn't matter if the stats are the same as Slimeball, as my friends will do all the killing for me.

[momocoast]

i'am lvl 81 and i reach boss LVL31 but
one day when i become stonger
i think to reach 43 i have to use gem's?

[Revelate]

Less than 24 hours to go. I got my 43, but am unlikely to craft the armor as I already have a good water/air, and plenty of gaps elsewhere.

I was hoping for somethinh nice from the 5 gold keys but no, just a bunch of crappy materials I didn't want and could have collected in a couple of hours if I did.

Starting to get excited about the next boss, more than I am about imminently getting the BK+ and having to level it inch by painful inch.

I'm thinking Earth/Air is due and I need one, though I don't have the best armor to line up against it. Shouldn't matter if the stats are the same as Slimeball, as my friends will do all the killing for me.

I missed it somewhere Musketeer, but would you mind posting your armor lineup?

I'm actually looking at the next boss with some trepidation as I have a phenomenal number of holes in my lineup; sort of like you I have a SS+ in my case leveled so Slimelord while a pretty substantial upgrade, isn't nearly as much bang for the buck as something else.

Like you I had substantial help, though I had a moderately leveled Moontide and said SS to smooth over the early rounds without dipping into the friends list: have a winner takes all shot tomorrow at 51 (who am I kidding, I'll spend a few gems if needed on either EE or SA generation for the ep / fusion stones at this point) but I'm a little skeptical of making 43 if I get (for me) a terrible draw next or in future weeks, so I'm intensely curious as to what you had for this one and hopefully I'll be able to plan out next week when I see it if it's ugly.

[Cainr71]

[QUOTE=momocoast;911998]i'am lvl 81 and i reach boss LVL31 but
one day when i become stonger
i think to reach 43 i have to use gem's?[no you don't have to use gems mainly depends on how effective and strong your knights are against the boss. I'm using boreas+ notus+ and jack and with the help of some friends I have beaten it 46 times]

[EljayK]

Hey guys. Ended up getting called to work for a full day and missed out on a whole day. Need some quick help. Looking to find 1 or two people with moontide on so I can slam 43. Used my best lineup of friends and really gunning to get 43. If you have moontide, or Eurus+ maxed, please send me a friend request so I can try to get this last level in the next few hours. Thanks in advance!!

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[momocoast]

thanks Cain71

i just have to xontinue growing and looking for good friends