Important things to know in "Upcoming Guild Wars":

[King Mark]

Guild Leadership Effect

All Guild members in leadership roles will now receive an ATK and DEF boost called a "Guild Leadership Effect"! This boost is added everywhere in the game (fighting normal monsters, Epic Bosses, other knights in PVP, etc).

Guild Wars

Now that you've formed a guild of epic Knights, the moment has come to face off against rival guilds in battle! Participation is open to all active knights in a guild when the 3-day Guild War event begins.

Guild recruitment and enlistment will be frozen while the event is active.

Guild Battles

Battles between guilds must be initiated and can be done so by tapping the "Declare War" button. Once an opposing guild is found, a Guild Battle will officially begin and last 60 minutes.

Both guilds in a Guild Battle will earn War Points based on their performance. The winning guild earns a War Points bonus, and all earned War Points are applied directly to your guild's ranking. Collect the most War Points to earn massive rewards for your entire guild!

During a Guild Battle, each guild member can earn War Points by defeating rival knights, and attacking the opposing guild's Guardian and Castle Gate. You can even earn additional points for defeating guild leaders and tougher opponents!

Guild Battles are fought in a 3-on-3 format and use War Energy to initiate the fight. However, unlike in the Tournament Arena, you'll have the option of selecting 2 types of attacks:

Attack – Costs a normal amount of War Energy (25) with no bonuses to ATK and DEF.
Power Attack – Costs a full bar of War Energy (100) with a huge ATK and DEF bonus.
War Energy replenishes at a rate of 1 per minute and can also be refilled by consuming a War Energy pack.

Battle Frenzy

Battle Frenzy is a bonus effect that increases the amount of War Points gained for a period of time. Battle Frenzy may be triggered automatically during a single Guild Battle when the Battle gets close.

[King Mark]

Guild Sentinels

All opposing guild members are "protected" by the Guild Sentinel until the Guild Sentinel is defeated by any guild member. This means that all other knights are unavailable to fight until the Guild Sentinel is defeated. Guild members can still attack the Guardian or Castle Gate if the Guild Sentinel has not been defeated.

Guild Sentinels gets a 50% DEF boost while protecting their guild's members.

Guild Guardians

Guild Guardians act as an extra layer of defense! While a Guardian is alive, the opposing guild earns less War Points. Higher level Guardians protect your guild better, with higher health AND greater War Point protection.

Attacking Guild Guardians yield War Points even if you don't defeat it, and defeating a Guardian gives extra rewards to the member that has inflicted the most damage in defeating it.

Castle Gate

If members are having a hard time defeating rival knights, they can always attack the opposing guild's Castle Gate. It is always available to attack, but doesn't give out as many points as winning against rival knights.

End of Guild War Event

About 60 minutes before the 3-day Guild War event ends, guilds will not be permitted to Declare War.

Accumulated War Points, from both Guild Battle Skirmishes and wins, will determine your Guild's ranking in the Guild War Event. Fight hard for better rewards, because all members of your guild get all of the rewards shown!

[KayOrzz]

I'm da punching bag. :(

[Marco_]

2 other people copy-pasted quicker at http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?62946-War-is-Coming-Guild-Wars/page2 :P
(though the second seems to have deleted his post, since that was already a duplicate text)

[EljayK]

2 other people copy-pasted quicker at http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?62946-War-is-Coming-Guild-Wars/page2 :P
(though the second seems to have deleted his post, since that was already a duplicate text)

I typed it out with love and care, then I hit post, and looked up, and got beaten to it. So I figured no reason in keeping it up since they were both word for word.

But I fixed the grammar error of "gets" in the sentinel section!!! Muahaha! Grammar!

[QuantumP 86]

Do we have a start date?

[Will_Treaty]

I'm da punching bag. :(

We sentinels are dang punchin bags. If I could only throw myself in punching bag form. :(

[Issaquah]

A couple questions:
Battling the Sentinel - does someone have to beat him/her or each time the Sentinel loses a knight, they don't respawn when next attacked (similar to how in the other Gree games where the defense leader can be defeated by multiple attacks)?

Battling: Is the battle like in the arena where elemental matchups matter or will it be a 1-button attack (like the other games)?

[King Mark]

A couple questions:
Battling the Sentinel - does someone have to beat him/her or each time the Sentinel loses a knight, they don't respawn when next attacked (similar to how in the other Gree games where the defense leader can be defeated by multiple attacks)?

Battling: Is the battle like in the arena where elemental matchups matter or will it be a 1-button attack (like the other games)?

I think these are some of the things we'd find out along the way as they aren't clearly stated in the mechanics of this upcoming guild wars =)

[Musketeer]

Guild Guardians act as an extra layer of defense! While a Guardian is alive, the opposing guild earns less War Points.


Fewer points, not less. Less is for stuff you can't count in integers. Honestly.



Guild Sentinel here too, I'm already laying in stocks of bandages and splints for my knights, 'cos they are going to look like red mashed potato before long.

Wondering which 3 days of the week the event will span. I've always liked that K&D events last a whole week, so whether you are active on weekdays or weekends you get a fair chance. I'm usually less active (see how that works) at the weekend, especially in the daytime.

[Xaiadar]

I think my guild is going to get stomped! We have 9 people and half of them are lower than level 50. :p

[King Mark]

I think my guild is going to get stomped! We have 9 people and half of them are lower than level 50. :p

Lol! What's the level of your guild sentinel though? If he's strong and well equipped, you'd get by against other lower level guilds ^^

Me, I'm still thinking which guild to join for this Guild Wars.

[sk8kidamh]

This is going to be pretty awesome.

How often are guild wars going to be?

[Jello]

Guild Sentinels

All opposing guild members are "protected" by the Guild Sentinel until the Guild Sentinel is defeated by any guild member. This means that all other knights are unavailable to fight until the Guild Sentinel is defeated. Guild members can still attack the Guardian or Castle Gate if the Guild Sentinel has not been defeated.

Guild Sentinels gets a 50% DEF boost while protecting their guild's members.

What armor set(s) is/are the Guild Sentinel going to be wearing for the Guild Wars that he will be protecting his guild members with? Arena? Adventure? Or will there be a new armor set group for Guild Wars? I'd like to find out who is the most geared in our guild and make them the sentinel.

[Matti1992]

I think my guild is going to get stomped! We have 9 people and half of them are lower than level 50. :p

My guild is just the same! I'm the highest level in our guild and I'm around 81. Luckily I'm already the guild sentinel, but we will still be easy picking for the other big guilds.

[Stooboot]

Damn I was just enjoying this game 2 now its gonna turn turn into another $hit show all about the money mw cc game

[Bearsuo]

Fewer points, not less. Less is for stuff you can't count in integers.

Plz halp y they dun call horse Invincible becoz u can c?

[Issaquah]

I'm looking forward to the wars. My guild spans level 30 through over 100. By no means will we compete with the top 10 however have a shot at top 25 if the stars align....IF. Should be fun and the rewards will certainly add a new wrinkle to game; especially those low level players that are in the high placing guilds.

[Sakino]

Does my guild can be attacked by some other guild, if i dont click the declare war button? Can i simply choose to compete or simply stay alone, like arena?

[Unresolved]

Does my guild can be attacked by some other guild, if i dont click the declare war button? Can i simply choose to compete or simply stay alone, like arena?

People attack you all the time in the Arena. Same concept. It's not like you're losing points for losing a war.

[sk8kidamh]

People attack you all the time in the Arena. Same concept. It's not like you're losing points for losing a war.

So this is basically like going to the arena, but with a group of people?

[busteroaf]

So this is basically like going to the arena, but with a group of people?

Pretty much
Players = Arena
Guilds = Guild Wars (group arena)

The only "loss" you will suffer is the death of your guardians that you purchased and leveled. You will have to re-purchase them for the next guild wars. Other than that, there really isn't much to it. Forgive me if I'm over-simplifying.

[Sakino]

Pretty much
Players = Arena
Guilds = Guild Wars (group arena)

The only "loss" you will suffer is the death of your guardians that you purchased and leveled. You will have to re-purchase them for the next guild wars. Other than that, there really isn't much to it. Forgive me if I'm over-simplifying.so a cheapish guardian for every fight ,and who win get only points? Will there be a instant reward for every battle or the same leaderboard thing? I really like little things like this. A few wars whit my fellow knight and some cheap prizes. High prizes to high gemspenders, i dont give a duck.

[busteroaf]

so a cheapish guardian for every fight ,and who win get only points? Will there be a instant reward for every battle or the same leaderboard thing? I really like little things like this. A few wars whit my fellow knight and some cheap prizes. High prizes to high gemspenders, i dont give a duck.

Some games do instant prizes depending on battles won, how many points you get per battle. Or it could be based off battles won. We won't know fully until they release it all. It will be interesting to see what the rewards are. Unfortunately, many games "participation award" isn't all that worth it.

[Mesmer]

A certain issue is unclear for me.

"Guild recruitment and enlistment will be frozen while the event is active."

Can we change leaders during a Guild Wars event?
Whether they are untouchable for the whole 3 days.

[L C]

Input to a few questions that others posted:

The guild recruitment/enlistment closing simply means no one can leave/be removed from guild and no one new can be added to the guild during the 3 day war event.
In all the other gree games, these guild wars are over the weekend, so most likely it will follow suit here. Also, these guild wars typically take place about once a month (maybe more accurately, every 3-4 weeks) so again it seems likely that K&D will follow that pattern as well.

Disclaimer:
Any conclusions drawn by me, are obviously not binding and may prove to be completely wrong. They are essentially based on experiences from other GREE games. Accept these as "answers" and base all your plans upon that acceptance, at your own risk.

[busteroaf]

Basically, all guild functions are typically frozen. Have Mr. McWeaksauce as your sentinel? Might want to change it now while you can. Once the war starts, if you have a patsy as your sentinel/tank/defense leader/whatever you want to call it, you're toast. Or, have a weakling in the attack leader spot? War started? Tough luck. This is standard in a lot of games. Unless I'm mistaken, you also won't be able to buy new guardians during the event either.

Those who fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

[ppownage]

lol its almost identical to modern war! prepare for long weekends with no sleep!!!

[Papa3G]

Guys,
What is the role of Guild Master in Guild War?
Does he protect the Guild as well?
Thanks!

[Hjon]

What is the date of the upcoming giuld wars??

[Derp]

Android users going to see guilds anytime soon?

[Ziploc]

Why not give a date instead of "coming in August"?

Also the guild wars "coming soon" banner just disappeared.

[Jello]

Why not give a date instead of "coming in August"?

Also the guild wars "coming soon" banner just disappeared.

Because a war can start at ANYTIME. It's not right for everyone to be ready for war on the exact date and time! When it starts, it starts.

[busteroaf]

Because a war can start at ANYTIME. It's not right for everyone to be ready for war on the exact date and time! When it starts, it starts.

^ This. Real life wars aren't ".... and go!" Its "oh look, we blew up a few of your bunkers and destroyed your communication system. Guess what? Next we're going to take out some of your supply depots..."

This is why they said guild functions will be frozen. Be ready now, cause it could start whenever.

[gardibolt]

Well, this seems like a good time to quit the game. My guild isn't much and all the folks I recruited immediately quit.

[Musketeer]

Well, this seems like a good time to quit the game. My guild isn't much and all the folks I recruited immediately quit.

You could always join another Guild. Not every Guild is going to survive.

[King Mark]

Well, this seems like a good time to quit the game. My guild isn't much and all the folks I recruited immediately quit.

Did they quit the guild or the game itself? Coz if just the guild, my guess is they've found or are trying to find another guild which they think has a better chance of winning for this GW. I suggest you try it first as well and see how it goes. I believe this is going to be fun, but yeah there's going to be a tough competition especially for the guilds aspiring to be on top =)

[Papa3G]

Guys,
What is the role of Guild Master in Guild War?
Does he protect the Guild as well?
Thanks!

Nobody can answer my question? Come on.....!

[King Mark]

Nobody can answer my question? Come on.....!

Unfortunately, the role of the GM wasn't even clearly indicated in the mechanics Gree has provided us so far. However, my guess is GMs would be the ones (aside from the Leaders) or even "possibly" the ONLY ones able to declare war. If this happens, then GM's role would be as vital as that of Guild Sentinels. Again, no clear answer for this, just mere speculation =)

[Silent follower]

Unfortunately, the role of the GM wasn't even clearly indicated in the mechanics Gree has provided us so far. However, my guess is GMs would be the ones (aside from the Leaders) or even "possibly" the ONLY ones able to declare war. If this happens, then GM's role would be as vital as that of Guild Sentinels. Again, no clear answer for this, just mere speculation =)

In another Gree game, Kingdom Age, the GM has no special role in wars. He's just one other player. And in that game anybody can declare war, to the annoyance of officers. And newbies often do it in the beginning without realizing the effects of declaring a war when the guild is not ready for war.

[gardibolt]

Did they quit the guild or the game itself? Coz if just the guild, my guess is they've found or are trying to find another guild which they think has a better chance of winning for this GW. I suggest you try it first as well and see how it goes. I believe this is going to be fun, but yeah there's going to be a tough competition especially for the guilds aspiring to be on top =)
They quit the guild. Out of 13 guild members only 4 seem to have been online in the last two weeks. Haven't seen the guild sentinel in five days but maybe he will be back. No one has seen the GM in two weeks. I sure hope 3 people don't have to be online at once because I doubt we can manage that.

[busteroaf]

I would try looking for another guild. Hit up the recruitment threads.

And for some games I've played (not gree) the GM gets attack and defense boosts. I want to say Rage of Bahamut was 3% to both attack and defense, 5% attack boost for attack leader, 5% defense boost for defense leader. They've changed things since I really played but it made a nice little bonus to just create your own guild for the daily boost.

Of course, on the flipside, opposing teams got more points for beating GM/Attack/Defense leaders so, know you can be targeted. Not sure if that is how it will work here or not but, just sayin.

[Papa3G]

In another Gree game, Kingdom Age, the GM has no special role in wars. He's just one other player. And in that game anybody can declare war, to the annoyance of officers. And newbies often do it in the beginning without realizing the effects of declaring a war when the guild is not ready for war.

It seems to be useless if GM doesn't have any role in GW...
In my opinion, GM has to be the last man standing to defend the guild...

[Alexa]

Yeah... So any ideas when the first guild war event oughta come? Banner's already been out down like the other day, but it says on August... Are we even still having it this month?

[Jello]

Yeah... So any ideas when the first guild war event oughta come? Banner's already been out down like the other day, but it says on August... Are we even still having it this month?

Wow, Patience IS a virtue. It's only August 4th. There are 27 more days left in the month. If it started August 31st, they would not be lying on their banner. Besides, I'd rather they have it right then crash the game or the servers!

[Silent follower]

It seems to be useless if GM doesn't have any role in GW...
In my opinion, GM has to be the last man standing to defend the guild...

The Guild Master has the ultimate power in the guild, and he nominates the Guild Champion and Guild Sentinel as the guilds war heroes. They are the ones who are responsible of on how the guild wars, and are the last mans standing protecting the guild.

[Bearsuo]

Guys,
What is the role of Guild Master in Guild War?
Does he protect the Guild as well?
Thanks!

Because managing a guild - even in such a lightweight game as this - is easy. Pay founding gold cost, open doors, $$$$. Never mind all those 1/10 guilds in the rota...

[Papa3G]

The Guild Master has the ultimate power in the guild, and he nominates the Guild Champion and Guild Sentinel as the guilds war heroes. They are the ones who are responsible of on how the guild wars, and are the last mans standing protecting the guild.

You're absolutely correct. However as a GM, we want to be part of the ones who defend our Guild in GW.
I'm tiring with the PvP battles with less rewards...

[Musketeer]

You're absolutely correct. However as a GM, we want to be part of the ones who defend our Guild in GW.
I'm tiring with the PvP battles with less rewards...

It sounds like you do, but the Sentinel goes first on defence. The GM gets attack/Defence bonuses, so s/he'll be that much more effective in the war.

[Eunuchorn]

Yeah... So any ideas when the first guild war event oughta come? Banner's already been out down like the other day, but it says on August... Are we even still having it this month?

Last weekend of the month. CC war this past weekend, MW war this coming, KA war next weekend, then K&D

[King Mark]

Now, the leadership boost shall divide and conquer guilds. Strong players would move to other guilds where they'd be given the Sentinel, Champion or HC positions to boost their stats overall. I wouldn't be too surprised how this would pan out across K&D. Would be interesting to see ^^

[SpongeBOZZ]

i hope guildwars start soon :(

[Harbear]

I'm sure it varies a bit, but does anyone know roughly how many points it's worth when you kill the guild guardian monster?

[shukai84]

this guild war is too long man...no fun at all.

[JStarbux]

1) Can someone explain why the Guild Sentinel doesn't have to be beaten in order for protection to be lifted? I've seen a number of times where simply attacking the sentinel about 5 to 7 times causes the "defeated" message to appear even if every fight was a loss against the sentinel. Is it hit based or does it have to do with beating the Sentinel's hero knight regardless of all 3?

2) There should be a limit for the number of times one player can attack another player. This 'farming' effect really takes away from team play and allows an opposing guild to gain too many points off a single player. Changing the name of the player doesn't help because sequence of players stay... My suggestion to take this a step further then just limiting X hits by making the opposing guild only be allowed to beat a player one time before they move to the next player. Then you'd have to beat the entire opposing guild before going back to the original player. This would really make the war more interesting and perhaps even create use to the Power Attack which is useless right now. I would think there should be some distinct points awarded for any officer position that you beat just like you see the bonus for frenzy. It was in the instructions that you are given extra points for beating champ and guild master, etc but this doesn't seem to be the case at all.

3) I know Gree would never do this because it may reduce revenue but it would be nice to limit the number of times the energy bar could be refilled by a single player within the battle. Say maximum of 10 times. This would prevent a single player on the other guild from being able to win a fight against a guild of twenty just because the guild of twenty didn't want to spend gems. I think there are a number of scenarios where the paying customer should have an advantage but I think this is the worst case of over selling something that is completely unfair to the free players. Please limit the use of energy refill or at least put a time frame of 5-10 minutes each refill.

4) Please allow a guild to intentionally enter war without a guardian even if they have guardians. It would be nice to be able to save higher level guardians until you wanted to actually use them. Instead, you have to have extra level 1 guardians available as dummy placeholders until you've finished purchasing the remaining levels. Ideally, it would default to no guardian instead of next highest level guardian and make a pop up or warning if you declare without a guardian. I don't know, do others like this idea?

5) Something definitely funky about the reward tier process. Tier D is the clear winner over B & C because not only is sky guardian + unobtainable through fusion, but you also get 2 of them. At least you can fuse guardian's battle gear, especially with all the recent bosses coming out that are Mono.


Probably have more thoughts but for now, these I think are my biggest issues with the war setup. Performance is good and I really appreciate the fix of the friend hire process. Much faster!