[Danger] Phyrus Lord of the West - July 24th - July 31st

[The Wise One]

Attention Knights!

The Dark Prince has just unleashed a new boss that's approaching your castle walls fast! Defeat Phyrus Lord of the West to collect keys, items, gems, and a Limited Edition armor set! Phyrus Lord of the West will be here for a limited time only, so act now!

Find and deal bonus damage using the nemesis armor set and compete in the Damage Leaderboards for a chance to win even more rewards.



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[marciorf]

Hope this time I kill lvl 15

[KTran2013]

Awesome-looking dragon! Armor, in my taste, looks WAY better than the first. Now I can concentrate on this rather than infernal lord!

[ppownage]

looks beast!! :D

[BileJAR]

dat defense

[Sakino]

Looks good... I will try to reach my first 43 on this.. I will send friend requests to someone powerfull and hope for good.

[ZERO_07]

HH+ is putting in insane work

[Bryanv2]

That boss and armor looks amazing.

Well, seems like I'll be getting that cape. Can't wait till I get to the point in the game where I can beat it 43+ times

[orientalexpress]

I'm trying to go for my first Epic + for this one it just looks too sick. Can any high level players add me?

[BileJAR]

Well, most likely going to get 43 on this boss again, and the ultimate K&D dream will come true! :cool: Just don't fuse/enhance my boss armors on accident! :confused:

[Lieda]

While im trouble because all my armors has a disvantage against him, he looks very nice ;P i was expecting something ugly as notus. In any case, ill have to spend some gems if i want that plus, his atk seems high

[cubey]

Probably the first dragon I want to get to lvl 43 on but I don't think I have enough good armours or friendsto get there.

Oh well.

Would building another 2 HH+ be enough to get to 43?

[overcire]

gems, guilds, friends, willingness to play round the clock all fit into that question. If gems = 0, my answer is no.

[Roark]

Awesome-looking dragon! Armor, in my taste, looks WAY better than the first. Now I can concentrate on this rather than infernal lord!

haha, yea, I've yet to make my infernal lord, woot

edit: I assume Jackalope+ should be solid bet for this?

[Lieda]

At least eurus armor has a double on it... I find it useable even tough of the counter element..

[Bearsuo]

While im trouble because all my armors has a disvantage against him, he looks very nice ;P i was expecting something ugly as notus. In any case, ill have to spend some gems if i want that plus, his atk seems high

No swamp shaman and no hydra hunter?

[overcire]

HH+ is putting in insane work

yep, my jians+ has been worth the investment for:Sasquatch, Deva, Wandering Flame and now phyrus. Heck, it was better than LF+ for most of the levels last boss.

[Eos]

Well my boilerplate is doing rlly well against this boss. Already at lvl 12

[Lieda]

No swamp shaman and no hydra hunter?


Eh... No.. My Swamp-mojo-voodoish armor is lvl 11, i dont feel like leveling it up now, and hydra hunter... Is.. Blue.. And looks like a frogfish armor or something o_O yea......... I have a special feeling for armors appearance..... Im guilty T_T

[EX1153]

Well, most likely going to get 43 on this boss again, and the ultimate K&D dream will come true! :cool: Just don't fuse/enhance my boss armors on accident! :confused:

That has been my biggest fear the last three weeks haha. And I almost did it once but caught it at the last second

[Musketeer]

Probably the first dragon I want to get to lvl 43 on but I don't think I have enough good armours or friendsto get there.

Oh well.

Would building another 2 HH+ be enough to get to 43?

By themselves, not a hope. You need good friends in Jian+ or Jackalope+.

I think Phyrus' defence will be around 660 at level 43.

[Marco_]

Boss: fire/earth

strong: water, spirit
weak: spirit, air
neutral: fire, earth

So I guess good picks:
water/earth
water/fire
(water/spirit)

If I sort the armors spreadsheet by max combined stats I guess we get for no weakness:

Clayplate+
Clayplate
Boilerplate+
Jian's+
Jackalope+
Flamehunter+
Boilerplate
Deep Dragon+
Flamehunter
Hydromancer+
Swamp+
Jackalope
Jian's
Steampowered+
Dragon Tamer+
Dragon Tamer
Chitinous+
Riverstone+
Hydromancer
Swamp
Deep Dragon
HH+

And BKal+ and Bkal somewhere high up that list.

Swamp+ 13th place; I really need to rush maxing it...
And now we know why Gree added Clayplate to the game...

[mcmessiah]

nemesis would still be better :D

[Unresolved]

nemesis would still be better :D

Not anymore. Nemesis dies too quickly compared to those water/earth combinations posted above.

[gexstar]

You forgot Clayplate regular, which would be second place. :)

[Lord Ash]

Eh... No.. My Swamp-mojo-voodoish armor is lvl 11, i dont feel like leveling it up now, and hydra hunter... Is.. Blue.. And looks like a frogfish armor or something o_O yea......... I have a special feeling for armors appearance..... Im guilty T_T

Me too my friend the armors appearance makes all the difference in the world whether I Lvl it or not... I never bothered with swamp either and summors that was just awful looking

[simplebeing]

Hi just want to know how quickly EE gets added... I know the whole thing max at 200+ minutes but whats the actual rate?

[Unresolved]

Hi just want to know how quickly EE gets added... I know the whole thing max at 200+ minutes but whats the actual rate?

1 EE per 30 minutes.

[simplebeing]

Boss: fire/earth

strong: water, spirit
weak: spirit, air
neutral: fire, earth

So I guess good picks:
water/earth
water/fire
(water/spirit)

If I sort the armors spreadsheet by max combined stats I guess we get for no weakness:

Clayplate+
Boilerplate+
Jian's+
Jackalope+
Flamehunter+
Boilerplate
Deep Dragon+
Flamehunter
Hydromancer+
Swamp+
Jackalope
Jian's
Steampowered+
Dragon Tamer+
Dragon Tamer
Chitinous+
Riverstone+
Hydromancer
Swamp
Deep Dragon
HH+

And BKal+ and Bkal somewhere high up that list.

Swamp+ 10th place; I really need to rush maxing it...
And now we know why Gree added Clayplate to the game...

Im using Ragebourne Raiment LVL 29, My HH is only LVL 9:( and i dont have anything else. I suppose need my friends to fight my battle hehe.. Ragebourne killed till LVL9 boss with no issues at all. no i need to use multi knight. or try different combo to make a good armour.:(

[simplebeing]

1 EE per 30 minutes.

That is bloody slow! oh well

[Unresolved]

Im using Ragebourne Raiment LVL 29, My HH is only LVL 9:( and i dont have anything else. I suppose need my friends to fight my battle hehe.. Ragebourne killed till LVL9 boss with no issues at all. no i need to use multi knight. or try different combo to make a good armour.:(

Just ignore the Epic Boss for now. They're not very important unless you can get to 43(or close to it). You need to focus on getting your castle expansions and the Big 4, not trying to fuse some level 70 armor that you'll never be able to enhance yet.

[Marco_]

You forgot Clayplate regular, which would be second place. :)
-_- I was typing at something like 3 AM. My brain registered "Clayplate non-plus", but my fingers forgot to type it... -_-
At least I was still sensible enough to delay starting the boss until this morning.

[Marco_]

1 EE per 30 minutes.
And so maxing after 5 hours, but the boss is dropping huge amounts of EE at low levels, so you should be able to race all the way through level 1-10 in one session on that.
Then for a while EE indeed becomes the bottleneck, until the point where you need to send in 4 friends per level and the bottleneck shifts from EE to the 10 friends limit...

[LouieGavito]

I noticed there is a cape store in the game, do these yield benefits or is it to dress up your knight? Also how do yoi join a guild on android?

[issackiu]

I noticed there is a cape store in the game, do these yield benefits or is it to dress up your knight? Also how do yoi join a guild on android?

from my knowledge no guild in android yet wait for update
and i think the cape just for good looking

[Matti1992]

Very cool looking boss and a pretty decent looking armor. I'll see how far I can get this time, hopefully to around 28 or so.

[ZERO_07]

Just ignore the Epic Boss for now. They're not very important unless you can get to 43(or close to it). You need to focus on getting your castle expansions and the Big 4, not trying to fuse some level 70 armor that you'll never be able to enhance yet.

I kinda agree, if you're new there really is an extremely low chance you'll be able to get 15 kills, I ended up not being able to beat my 1st Epic Boss, though after that I'd at LEAST aim for the 15, that way down the road he'll have a chance to summon it for + when another 5 gems per boss special event comes by.

[Papa3G]

Jacklope+ is very strong against this epic boss...I got almost level 15 within 30 minutes only using 1 jacklope+. Hope can beat 43 without spending gems as usual...

[mazman16]

is this boss on the same att/def growth as the last 3?

[deathexe]

is this boss on the same att/def growth as the last 3?

No. Each of the four bosses have been increasingly harder.

[cubey]

By themselves, not a hope. You need good friends in Jian+ or Jackalope+.

I think Phyrus' defence will be around 660 at level 43.

Alright Thanks. I'll skip it then and just max out the quest ***+ first.

[Musketeer]

Alright Thanks. I'll skip it then and just max out the quest ***+ first.

You could do some of the lower levels just to get the rewards, which are useful for enhancing.


I started this boss the instant he was available and ran through the first 12 or so levels very quickly, thanks to having a maxed legendary armor (Jackalope+) ready from the start for the first time ever. Then, thanks to my 16mo son's teething, I was up during the night, hit level 15 and sarted crafting the armor.

I was astounded to see that, even though not one EE was wasted during this process, there were still several hundred people ahead of me on the damage table, and not merely ahead, many had done over double the damage.

OK, a few would have got more EE drops than I did, but many must have been spending gems to race ahead. The only name I recognised from the forum, or indeed from battling in the Arena, was Eunachorn.

Then, being awake at 3am, I did a few rounds in the Arena and met my first set of Phyrus armor. The wearer was hopelessly weak and my first knight down all three of his without a problem.

At this stage my knights and friends are stronger than I've ever had them for an epic boss, but I'm still not sure of getting that 43rd kill without using gems. Assuming I do get 43 kills one way or another, getting the armors crafted and earning the BK+ is no longer an issue.

[anuarreyes]

It doesnt matter if I dont get the + armor ill level the normal one, it looks good to me IMO

[EljayK]

You could do some of the lower levels just to get the rewards, which are useful for enhancing.


I started this boss the instant he was available and ran through the first 12 or so levels very quickly, thanks to having a maxed legendary armor (Jackalope+) ready from the start for the first time ever. Then, thanks to my 16mo son's teething, I was up during the night, hit level 15 and sarted crafting the armor.

I was astounded to see that, even though not one EE was wasted during this process, there were still several hundred people ahead of me on the damage table, and not merely ahead, many had done over double the damage.

OK, a few would have got more EE drops than I did, but many must have been spending gems to race ahead. The only name I recognised from the forum, or indeed from battling in the Arena, was Eunachorn.

Then, being awake at 3am, I did a few rounds in the Arena and met my first set of Phyrus armor. The wearer was hopelessly weak and my first knight down all three of his without a problem.

At this stage my knights and friends are stronger than I've ever had them for an epic boss, but I'm still not sure of getting that 43rd kill without using gems. Assuming I do get 43 kills one way or another, getting the armors crafted and earning the BK+ is no longer an issue.

Sorry about your son. I was up last night doing laundry for the whole house that didn't get done while I was at work. I had the same situation. Started up armor last night, ran into one in the arena. I was down to #179 by the time I started crafting.

I think I may spend gems for this one. I'm a sucker for aesthetics, and golden-fire-awesome-dragon-riding-knight-armor-of-B.A.-zomgawesomeness is too much for me to pass up. Not to mention 1355 attack. I just finished leveling Infernal+ and just started crafting dark prince+. But I don't care. This one is just sooooo pretty.

[Bearsuo]

I started this boss the instant he was available and ran through the first 12 or so levels very quickly, thanks to having a maxed legendary armor (Jackalope+) ready from the start for the first time ever. Then, thanks to my 16mo son's teething, I was up during the night, hit level 15 and sarted crafting the armor.

I was astounded to see that, even though not one EE was wasted during this process, there were still several hundred people ahead of me on the damage table, and not merely ahead, many had done over double the damage.

So, if you want 60, and are willing to spend any gems, it's most economical to buy energy up front. The reason is obvious - the real blocker is the 10 friends a day limit. The sooner you hit that, the more recycles you'll get. I'll skip the standard "it's a business," drum, since that'll come up often.

In all games, the forums are always tip of the iceberg when it comes to the player base, although players in the category of Eu (whose name ill misspell unintentionally on my phone) and Itzme tend to be over represented (small population that highly self selects).

The leaderboard, ignoring obvious hackers who have disappeared, has been this way for a fairly long time.


Then, being awake at 3am, I did a few rounds in the Arena and met my first set of Phyrus armor. The wearer was hopelessly weak and my first knight down all three of his without a problem.

It's a variety of achievement player who uses gems to appeal to their vanity. "World first X" or even just first among a competitive clique. You strike me as more standard achievement/explorer aligned, which is why it's weird for someone to throw on a useless armor.


At this stage my knights and friends are stronger than I've ever had them for an epic boss, but I'm still not sure of getting that 43rd kill without using gems. Assuming I do get 43 kills one way or another, getting the armors crafted and earning the BK+ is no longer an issue.

BAL has a few Jians+ maxed and dual 6%s. Not Rainbow Room by a stretch but let me know if you're short on allies.

Ps - Seems a fair number of dads playing. Wife and I think our little one is doing the pre teething drooling now. (And bizarrely let me sleep more than normal last night... probably a joke on the old man)

[Bearsuo]

I think I may spend gems for this one. I'm a sucker for aesthetics, and golden-fire-awesome-dragon-riding-knight-armor-of-B.A.-zomgawesomeness is too much for me to pass up. Not to mention 1355 attack. I just finished leveling Infernal+ and just started crafting dark prince+. But I don't care. This one is just sooooo pretty.

So I make plenty of mistakes and I think the pattern has been that epic Armors are useful a few weeks after reward, but for general use I have and loved HDHA armor (basically an earlier armor same elements same balance) but in the end I've had it shelved more than used. Still, I expect it'll be useful against an epic soon enough ...

[Musketeer]

So I make plenty of mistakes and I think the pattern has been that epic Armors are useful a few weeks after reward, but for general use I have and loved HDHA armor (basically an earlier armor same elements same balance) but in the end I've had it shelved more than used. Still, I expect it'll be useful against an epic soon enough ...

Yup, that gives you the time usually needed to level up the new armor ready for the next boss it's useful against.

As I think Overcire pointed out in another thread, adjacent elements (Fire/Water, Water/Air, Air/Earth, Earth/Spirit & Spirit/Fire) do double duty against Epic Bosses, so of these dragon armors I'll be levelling Boreas first.

My counter was that in the Arena non-adjacent elements tend to be a safer bet in the Arena, avoiding as much as possible taking a big hit. It still happens, e.g. Air/Fire vs Water/Spirit does 200% damage, but the return does 150%, if you get a return hit. If you can put your main in an armor that beats their main then you've maximised your chances, but the random misses can still wreck a DD run at the wrong moment.


I like the way the elements and armors balance out in the end, and the game is great fun in areas. I just wish we had a less tedious way to obtain materials for crafting, and that we could sell off unwanted materials, or even just throw them away. I have the materials for Spectral Captain+ that I have no desire to craft, but no way to get rid of them without crafting.

[mikieblue]

Seems a fair number of dads playing. Wife and I think our little one is doing the pre teething drooling now. (And bizarrely let me sleep more than normal last night... probably a joke on the old man)

Yeah i'm a daddy too. Mines just 8 months old & has recently got 4 top teeth & 4 bottom ones. He slept like crazy for a few days at first, then started waking at like 5am daily whining with them.

Rosey red cheeks, lots of slobber & hard gums are a good indication... Seriously can i recommend that you go out & buy some Ashton & Parsons teething powder. Bonjella & such like just dont seem to ease it enough. Since we used this my little sunshine has been his usual happy self :)

[CASKA]

can I ask the pros here?

If I have the resources to max only 1 of the 4 dragon ancient armors to level 70.


(1)which armor is best for arena?

ANS:

(2)which armor is best for the last stage dark prince.

ANS:

pls advice

[BileJAR]

How much higher is his def compared to the previous Ancient Dragons?

[KayOrzz]

can I ask the pros here?

If I have the resources to max only 1 of the 4 dragon ancient armors to level 70.


(1)which armor is best for arena?

ANS:

(2)which armor is best for the last stage dark prince.

ANS:

pls advice

imho, notus, eurus

[buchilala]

Yeah i'm a daddy too. Mines just 8 months old & has recently got 4 top teeth & 4 bottom ones. He slept like crazy for a few days at first, then started waking at like 5am daily whining with them.

Rosey red cheeks, lots of slobber & hard gums are a good indication... Seriously can i recommend that you go out & buy some Ashton & Parsons teething powder. Bonjella & such like just dont seem to ease it enough. Since we used this my little sunshine has been his usual happy self :)

I remember those days! Proud dad of two - 2 & 4. Enjoy those early years before they start talking back. Maybe we need a dad's thread! :)

[EljayK]

I like the way the elements and armors balance out in the end, and the game is great fun in areas. I just wish we had a less tedious way to obtain materials for crafting, and that we could sell off unwanted materials, or even just throw them away. I have the materials for Spectral Captain+ that I have no desire to craft, but no way to get rid of them without crafting.

Most annoying part is seeing them in the armorsmith. I've taken to using my fourth armorsmith to craft the 1 day *** that I randomly get materials for. Not economical in time or gold to use them for enhancing, but it's worth both to take them off the list of craftables.

[Bryanv2]

Agreed. I'm getting to the point where I have at least 4 armors that I don't even wanna craft but that block my view of for example my snakeskins and other armors. Annoying having to scroll everytime.

Would definitely like a remove option of sorts.

[Musketeer]

I managed levels 1-14 with just my main knight in Jackalope+, then brought in a second (capped HH+) for level 15.

Reverted to just main for level 16, back to two for 17-19 (to be on the safe side), and levekl 20 is definitely going to require a third knight. For level 17 I might have done it woth one, but a couple of misses would have been a fail. I'd rather spend 2 ee extra than have to come back for a second round.

It makes such a difference to have the right armor maxed from the start.

[Spongie]

I wonder are there any android players that can reach 43? I am playing now for about 3-4 weeks and managed to get to 20

[KTran2013]

I wonder are there any android players that can reach 43? I am playing now for about 3-4 weeks and managed to get to 20

I can probably name a few :)

It's a challenge, but I did it for the first time for the last Epic Boss.

[Spongie]

Well then you must be strong and have strong friends.. did you use any gems to get there?

[EljayK]

I managed levels 1-14 with just my main knight in Jackalope+, then brought in a second (capped HH+) for level 15.

Reverted to just main for level 16, back to two for 17-19 (to be on the safe side), and levekl 20 is definitely going to require a third knight. For level 17 I might have done it woth one, but a couple of misses would have been a fail. I'd rather spend 2 ee extra than have to come back for a second round.

It makes such a difference to have the right armor maxed from the start.

I ended up using another player as my second in 20. died when he had 359hp left, had to wait for the 3 energy to hit him once. 21 will take 3 definitely. I should have used you as my second in 20, instead of the random that I did. I needed your maxed jackalope for 21.

[Biagio93]

Need Phyrus nemesis for lv 15

Im lv 50

ign: xBiagiOx

code for android :WBB GYZ ZYB :)

[Marco_]

I wonder if the name of this epic boss is intentionally very close to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhus_of_Epirus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrhhic_victory
;)

[LouieGavito]

Im using Notus Nemesis+ armor maxed and it got me to level 10 on this new epic boss easily, i also have clayplate mantel+ lv20 and im hoping i can get to 15 without spending $$ & gems like i had to on Notus. Btw my knight just hit level 30 ;)

[KayOrzz]

Im using Notus Nemesis+ armor maxed and it got me to level 10 on this new epic boss easily, i also have clayplate mantel+ lv20 and im hoping i can get to 15 without spending $$ & gems like i had to on Notus. Btw my knight just hit level 30 ;)

boss armors should be the lowest priority for you right now

[KTran2013]

Well then you must be strong and have strong friends.. did you use any gems to get there?

Hmm. Why yes I did. I do have a lot of strong friends and used quite a few gems.

[shukai84]

i really have to say that gree done a wonderful job on the phyrus lord ! it looks awesome! i dun care if the stats are lousy or wat, but i am going to max the + amr... hahaha

btw, how many of u are on track to get bk+?

[KayOrzz]

btw, how many of u are on track to get bk+?

never really a challenge :o

[deathexe]

i really have to say that gree done a wonderful job on the phyrus lord ! it looks awesome! i dun care if the stats are lousy or wat, but i am going to max the + amr... hahaha

btw, how many of u are on track to get bk+?

So far no problem at all.

[Unresolved]

Same here. The only challenge I had was on the first boss because it was my first epic boss that I did seriously.

[Musketeer]

I hadn't really intended to go for it as I was convinced the dragons would get too hard, but it shouldn't be a problem now.

I've got so much armor in the wardrobe (69 sets) that I can't craft more until I use the existing stuff to level Phyrus to 35. I don't really want to use it elsewhere, that would be wasteful it's mostly Earth and Fire based. My regular Phyrus will be ready in 48 hours. Meantime I'll just keep farming for mats.

I'm pretty convinced that it's still going to take some gems to get that 43rd kill, but I have gems in the bank thanks to Arena and other rewards, so I don't see it being a problem any more. Just did level 21, just gotta keep grinding.

[BileJAR]

Reaallllyy tired of grinding, well, I used fusion stones mostly at the last boss armor. I had about 8 keys for the Silver Chests, I used them all and got about 12 fusion stones. So I'm happy. :) Just one more week!!

[Sivakumaran]

Boss: fire/earth

strong: water, spirit
weak: spirit, air
neutral: fire, earth

So I guess good picks:
water/earth
water/fire
(water/spirit)

If I sort the armors spreadsheet by max combined stats I guess we get for no weakness:

Clayplate+
Clayplate
Boilerplate+
Jian's+
Jackalope+
Flamehunter+
Boilerplate
Deep Dragon+
Flamehunter
Hydromancer+
Swamp+
Jackalope
Jian's
Steampowered+
Dragon Tamer+
Dragon Tamer
Chitinous+
Riverstone+
Hydromancer
Swamp
Deep Dragon
HH+

And BKal+ and Bkal somewhere high up that list.

Swamp+ 13th place; I really need to rush maxing it...
And now we know why Gree added Clayplate to the game...

Thanx, Macro_ for taking time & effort to compile the above list. Serves as a good reference to select the best armour in our inventory against the boss.

[Aylok]

So right now i am ~lvl 44 and working on maxing the Big Four (maxed 2 so far) and have completely filled out my castle. I would really like to get the armor from this boss but im not really sure if its even worth getting the non + version. If not concentrating on getting past 15 on this boss what should i be doing?

Thanks~
Aylok

[Unresolved]

So right now i am ~lvl 44 and working on maxing the Big Four (maxed 2 so far) and have completely filled out my castle. I would really like to get the armor from this boss but im not really sure if its even worth getting the non + version. If not concentrating on getting past 15 on this boss what should i be doing?

Thanks~
Aylok

Focus on getting your castle expansions, training fields, and finishing the Big 4.

[Bearsuo]

So right now i am ~lvl 44 and working on maxing the Big Four (maxed 2 so far) and have completely filled out my castle. I would really like to get the armor from this boss but im not really sure if its even worth getting the non + version. If not concentrating on getting past 15 on this boss what should i be doing?


The epic boss doesn't use your knights' health the same as when doing the story maps - you can do both, and should. You should just write off actually crafting the armor - but there are keys, mono armors, and gold rewards that will help you that you're just throwing away if you don't give the boss the stabs you can.

[Matti1992]

What do you guys think of the armor? Obviously the attack is pretty awesome, but with a defence that low I'm thinking it wouldn't be around to actually deal lots of damage. Would it still be pretty decent in the arena? Also, is it better than the Infernal Lord?

[Marco_]

What do you guys think of the armor? Obviously the attack is pretty awesome, but with a defence that low I'm thinking it wouldn't be around to actually deal lots of damage. Would it still be pretty decent in the arena? Also, is it better than the Infernal Lord?
Well, to rephrase something Beth said: at epic boss levels where the boss 1-shots everything, defense doesn't matter, only attack. So you might want to keep it around as a very situational squishy nuke.

[Bearsuo]

Well, to rephrase something Beth said: at epic boss levels where the boss 1-shots everything, defense doesn't matter, only attack. So you might want to keep it around as a very situational squishy nuke.

Health and defense only matter up to a point. If the epic boss hits for 270 with one armor and 300 for another, you get to hit three times in both cases.

[Matti1992]

Would it be useful in the arena though?

[Musketeer]

Would it be useful in the arena though?

Of course it would, are you incapable of thinking for yourself?

It has higher combined stats than Infernal Lord, whether you add or multiply the stats. That should give you a clue.

All kinds of situations come up in the arena. In most it will perform better, in some it will perform worse.

[EljayK]

Is anyone else noticing a decent number of their lvl 100 friends still wearing armor from last week? I have 10 friends that are wearing armor suitable for the boss, but a lot of my lvl 100+ friends seemed to have given up and stopped playing this week. I assumed yesterday that it was simply a matter of not having logged on, (life gets busy sometimes, ya know), but now, a full day and a half in, I would think they'd have switched.

That being said, I'm accepting all level friend requests. If you need help this week I have maxed Swamp Shaman. XBB-WFH-FNW

[Samtypipper]

I just started playing yesterday I am currently Lvl 14, and I need help with the phyrus dragon so add me xbd yyg nwh

[Musketeer]

I have a bunch of lvl 100+ friends who haven't changed their Epic Boss armor in weeks. Luckily for me, that puts many of them in Jian+ which is ideal for this week's boss, and I'm spoilt for choice. I'm also happy to finally be in a really good armor (amybe not the best, but good) from day 1, and helping others as I was helped.

I think a lot of longer-term players got annoyed by the sudden and utterly pointless hike from 2 day crafting to 3 day crafting for the legendary armors, and took that as their cue to leave the game. When you've played a game like this for long enough it's just become a habit, and often one you're happy to have a reason to drop.


I'm finding in these events it's my #3 armor that often causes me the most concern. Main obviously wears the best I have, which should be maxed legendary by the time it's needed at the higher levels. Second string wears a maxed big four+. Third string is the problem.

Usually I go with the lvl 35~ish Epic that I had to build to get the +version, as it's the best third choice I currently have. Often a second Big Four+ would be better, fractionally, but I hesitate to build one that I may never need again. Similarly I hesitate to do any more levelling on the 35~ish non+ Epic that again, is due for the scrapheap soon. Often a bigger 4+ would be good, but I never built it up.

Eventually I'll get to cycle of Epic Bosses where I have better armors from the start, the Big Four+ armors will drop to 3rd string, and from then on I'll only have to worry about crafting and levelling one legendary+ armor a week.

[drhawk]

This week's boss is definately harder than last week. I had big four+ maxed and last week I was able to get to lvl 18 with help from lvl60+ friends. This week, my lvl64 knights barely beat lvl 15 with help from lvl70+ friends (one of them had nemesis)

I need more powerful friends :(

[EljayK]

I think a lot of longer-term players got annoyed by the sudden and utterly pointless hike from 2 day crafting to 3 day crafting for the legendary armors, and took that as their cue to leave the game. When you've played a game like this for long enough it's just become a habit, and often one you're happy to have a reason to drop.


I'm finding in these events it's my #3 armor that often causes me the most concern. Main obviously wears the best I have, which should be maxed legendary by the time it's needed at the higher levels. Second string wears a maxed big four+. Third string is the problem.

Usually I go with the lvl 35~ish Epic that I had to build to get the +version, as it's the best third choice I currently have. Often a second Big Four+ would be better, fractionally, but I hesitate to build one that I may never need again. Similarly I hesitate to do any more levelling on the 35~ish non+ Epic that again, is due for the scrapheap soon. Often a bigger 4+ would be good, but I never built it up.

You're actually my most powerful friend this week. So I've been saving you for reward levels. Mostly though I've been alright with maxed HH+, but with the power creep of these dragons I'm seeing them obsolete as a second knight armor within two weeks. Hopefully those of us in the position you and I are in will be able to hit a cycle of decent boss armors so we're prepared enough.


I need more powerful friends :(

XBB-WFH-FNW. I have a couple slots still open.



Also. Is anyone using Blackfrost? I know it'll take a hit, but I was wondering if anyone has seen the double benefit and huge stats worth it up to 43.

[Bearsuo]

I have a bunch of lvl 100+ friends who haven't changed their Epic Boss armor in weeks. Luckily for me, that puts many of them in Jian+ which is ideal for this week's boss, and I'm spoilt for choice. I'm also happy to finally be in a really good armor (amybe not the best, but good) from day 1, and helping others as I was helped.

I think a lot of longer-term players got annoyed by the sudden and utterly pointless hike from 2 day crafting to 3 day crafting for the legendary armors, and took that as their cue to leave the game. When you've played a game like this for long enough it's just become a habit, and often one you're happy to have a reason to

Not to discount your valid options, also consider that churn inevitably happens and that many people don't max many Armors, no matter how active they may seem. And then there's summer slump.

[Matti1992]

Of course it would, are you incapable of thinking for yourself?

It has higher combined stats than Infernal Lord, whether you add or multiply the stats. That should give you a clue.

All kinds of situations come up in the arena. In most it will perform better, in some it will perform worse.

I'm new to this game, I don't really have a clue about arena strategies so for all I know having a lower defence could make an armor to vulnerable and possibly get taken out in one hit. If that was the case then it wouldn't get to use it's higher attack making it not as effective.

[KayOrzz]

In arena the opponent goes first thus the emphasis on defense over attack. In epic boss late stages it becomes a dps race therefore attack over defense

[Matti1992]

In arena the opponent goes first thus the emphasis on defense over attack. In epic boss late stages it becomes a dps race therefore attack over defense

That makes sense, thanks for the help!

[Bresson]

In arena the opponent goes first thus the emphasis on defense over attack. In epic boss late stages it becomes a dps race therefore attack over defense

That's only true for the first knight though, second and third knight will attack first. So at that point will more defense grant you one extra attack or not?

[Musketeer]

I'm new to this game, I don't really have a clue about arena strategies so for all I know having a lower defence could make an armor to vulnerable and possibly get taken out in one hit. If that was the case then it wouldn't get to use it's higher attack making it not as effective.

Strategies that are working for me:

1) Put your main knight second. S/he's more likely to get a special attack. The first knight up almost never gets one before dying.

2) Rotate your elements. The game tells you this, but so many people don't. If your fire element knight just got slain, putting another fire element next is asking for trouble. Use a Wind element - Water beats fire, so use Air to beat that Water. Then use Spirit to beat the Earth guy who just nailed your Air guy.

3) Separated elements on armors are safer. Water/Fire may hit hard but is equally vulnerable to a double hit. Earth/Water, then Wind/Spirit, then Earth/Fire would be a nice rotation. You can still get double hit of course, but will be hitting back at 150% if you do.

4) High defense on the first knight. I like that, haven't had the opportunity yet but the longer s/he lasts the better. After that emphasise attack more.

5) Scout your opponents. Use the leaderboard to check out their level and main knight armor & stats. If you're five levels above someone (and follow the above) you should be able to beat them, and if your main knight has elements to beat theirs you have maximised your chances.

6) Keep track of the people you can't beat and avoid them (or change your armor rotation). This gets easier as you go up the rankings because there are fewer opponents to be matched against, and it's quicker to find them on the leaderboard.



Apologies for being snippy, it was 4:30am when I posted and the third bad night in a row due to a teething toddler.

[Matti1992]

Strategies that are working for me:

1) Put your main knight second. S/he's more likely to get a special attack. The first knight up almost never gets one before dying.

2) Rotate your elements. The game tells you this, but so many people don't. If your fire element knight just got slain, putting another fire element next is asking for trouble. Use a Wind element - Water beats fire, so use Air to beat that Water. Then use Spirit to beat the Earth guy who just nailed your Air guy.

3) Separated elements on armors are safer. Water/Fire may hit hard but is equally vulnerable to a double hit. Earth/Water, then Wind/Spirit, then Earth/Fire would be a nice rotation. You can still get double hit of course, but will be hitting back at 150% if you do.

4) High defense on the first knight. I like that, haven't had the opportunity yet but the longer s/he lasts the better. After that emphasise attack more.

5) Scout your opponents. Use the leaderboard to check out their level and main knight armor & stats. If you're five levels above someone (and follow the above) you should be able to beat them, and if your main knight has elements to beat theirs you have maximised your chances.

6) Keep track of the people you can't beat and avoid them (or change your armor rotation). This gets easier as you go up the rankings because there are fewer opponents to be matched against, and it's quicker to find them on the leaderboard.



Apologies for being snippy, it was 4:30am when I posted and the third bad night in a row due to a teething toddler.

It's alright, I really appreciate the help. I've been doing ok in the arena, but I think that's more down to battling a lot than necessarily winning. So if you were going to use Phyrus in the arena you wouldn't put it first because you would have a better chance of getting a special attack later on and doing even more damage? I've got quite a big stack of gems saved up and I'm not sure whether to spend quite a lot on the summoning stone to get the + version. It'd be a big investment so I wanted to figure out just how good this armor would be.

[Musketeer]

It's alright, I really appreciate the help. I've been doing ok in the arena, but I think that's more down to battling a lot than necessarily winning. So if you were going to use Phyrus in the arena you wouldn't put it first because you would have a better chance of getting a special attack later on and doing even more damage? I've got quite a big stack of gems saved up and I'm not sure whether to spend quite a lot on the summoning stone to get the + version. It'd be a big investment so I wanted to figure out just how good this armor would be.

Unless you've got ten to twelve training fields at level 3, don't waste gems on summoning bosses. Get your gold income sorted out first.

Phyrus+ armor is good if you don't have any legendaries yet, but there will be other bosses along, at the rate of one a week. In the next 12 or so weeks there will be another boss with the same elements and porribly better, certainly very similar, armor stats.

While Phyrus might not be the ideal choice for first armor, it may be the best choice for you at the moment. I still don't have the Arena rotation I would like, and I've been playing 3 1/2 months now. I have the armors, I just need to get them levelled. Beating the Epic Bosses comes first in my book, so I focus on levelling the armors that will help me there more.

If you can get into the 1 through 3 ribbon levels in the Arena right now you're doing very well. Arena rewards are entirely there to boost up your armors against the Bosses.

[Roark]

this is the first week that I've had 3 suitable armors for my knights, although starsong+ isn't as good as eurus+

I'm using Jackalope+/Jian's+/Starsong+ while I finish leveling my 2nd Jian's. I mathed Jackalope+ lasting longer than Jian's+, and by mathed I mean Lii's calculator says so ;) However I don't want to wait 3 days for another Jackalope+ when my 2nd Jian's+ is 20+ already

aaaaanyway, I'm at level 30 boss and I officially used 4 knights for the last time, even with capped armors I will need 8 energy/5 knights on the coming boss

for those that get to 60, what's your typical boss level schedule for the week? I seem to get to 43 by Monday, this week I'll get there Sunday, so perhaps I'll hit 51 without spending any more than 30 gems

how do you guys hit 60 on these latest bosses?

[Musketeer]

this is the first week that I've had 3 suitable armors for my knights, although starsong+ isn't as good as eurus+

I'm using Jackalope+/Jian's+/Starsong+ while I finish leveling my 2nd Jian's. I mathed Jackalope+ lasting longer than Jian's+, and by mathed I mean Lii's calculator says so ;) However I don't want to wait 3 days for another Jackalope+ when my 2nd Jian's+ is 20+ already

aaaaanyway, I'm at level 30 boss and I officially used 4 knights for the last time, even with capped armors I will need 8 energy/5 knights on the coming boss



Did you manage 30 with 4 knights, or is 30 the first level you'll use 5? I used 5 for level 28 and breezed it, 4 for 29, and probably 5 for 30 and onwards. It wasn't worth the risk of missing on level 28, as I wanted to get in 3 boss kills before bedtime.

[deathexe]

Did you manage 30 with 4 knights, or is 30 the first level you'll use 5? I used 5 for level 28 and breezed it, 4 for 29, and probably 5 for 30 and onwards. It wasn't worth the risk of missing on level 28, as I wanted to get in 3 boss kills before bedtime.

I've managed to do 31 with 4 knights (3 of mine, 1 friend)

[Roark]

if my Starsong+ was another Jackalope+ I could have done 31 with 4 knights I just did 31 with 5 and the 5th wasn't used nor most of the 4th

I could swear 31 was easier than 30 which is weird

[Unresolved]

I did up to 34 with 4 knights. I needed 2 friends for boss 34 though.

[deathexe]

if my Starsong+ was another Jackalope+ I could have done 31 with 4 knights I just did 31 with 5 and the 5th wasn't used nor most of the 4th

I could swear 31 was easier than 30 which is weird

You have to take into account the damage bonus and the misses or crits.

[D3athShade]

Holy ****, i'm at lvl 24 right now and this boss does so high damage already =/ first time 43 won't be for this week i guess :(

*Edit* I'm currently forced to use 5 knights :'(

[dallen95]

I have a bunch of lvl 100+ friends who haven't changed their Epic Boss armor in weeks. Luckily for me, that puts many of them in Jian+ which is ideal for this week's boss, and I'm spoilt for choice. I'm also happy to finally be in a really good armor (amybe not the best, but good) from day 1, and helping others as I was helped.

I think a lot of longer-term players got annoyed by the sudden and utterly pointless hike from 2 day crafting to 3 day crafting for the legendary armors, and took that as their cue to leave the game. When you've played a game like this for long enough it's just become a habit, and often one you're happy to have a reason to drop.


I'm finding in these events it's my #3 armor that often causes me the most concern. Main obviously wears the best I have, which should be maxed legendary by the time it's needed at the higher levels. Second string wears a maxed big four+. Third string is the problem.

Usually I go with the lvl 35~ish Epic that I had to build to get the +version, as it's the best third choice I currently have. Often a second Big Four+ would be better, fractionally, but I hesitate to build one that I may never need again. Similarly I hesitate to do any more levelling on the 35~ish non+ Epic that again, is due for the scrapheap soon. Often a bigger 4+ would be good, but I never built it up.



Eventually I'll get to cycle of Epic Bosses where I have better armors from the start, the Big Four+ armors will drop to 3rd string, and from then on I'll only have to worry about crafting and levelling one legendary+ armor a week.
What are the big 4?

What are the big four?:)

[Marco_]

What are the big 4?

What are the big four?:)
You didn't read the stickies. Go back and do that now.
Your answer is in the one named "Things I Wish I Knew When I Was A Noob by Radlonghammer".

[Musketeer]

Level 33 is next up, and it's definitely 5 knight levels from now on for me. I've hit the out of friends wall, so the next 12 hours are nice and peaceful. Eleven level to go in 5 days, so that won't be a problem.

Edit: Actually I might as well try a 4/3 split, as I have one friend left to use and nothing to lose.

[Jello]

I have yet to see any of my 50 friends lvl 100+ use Phyrus's Nemesis. Is anyone using it at all? I'm at boss level 34 and doing fine without it, i'm just interested in the base stats/per level increase for the Data Sheet.

[buchilala]

Level 33 is next up, and it's definitely 5 knight levels from now on for me. I've hit the out of friends wall, so the next 12 hours are nice and peaceful. Eleven level to go in 5 days, so that won't be a problem.

Edit: Actually I might as well try a 4/3 split, as I have one friend left to use and nothing to lose.

In the same boat at 35, need 5 knights for the first time, only 1 friend available. 4/3, for funzies, or 4 and a 12 gem refresh just to be done.... Idk, we'll how I feel in a few hours :)

[Musketeer]

Level 33 is next up, and it's definitely 5 knight levels from now on for me. I've hit the out of friends wall, so the next 12 hours are nice and peaceful. Eleven level to go in 5 days, so that won't be a problem.

Edit: Actually I might as well try a 4/3 split, as I have one friend left to use and nothing to lose.

Wow, 4 knights took Phyrus down from 27122 to 2482 health, so he should be a breeze to finish off, assuming I don't forget to come back for round two. I could do it with my main knight right away if I could trust him not to miss.

It's a worthwhile strategy if you have the epic energy available. Usually at this point I'm doing 4-5 fights a day at 4-5 hours between fights, which is plenty if you have ten good friends to use.

I'm finding the numbers not quite accurate to BethMo's formulas at this stage. Mostly I'm taking fewer damage points from regular hits. Main was taking 80 compared to a predicted 91, which keeps him around for an extra hit - always assuming no special hits from Phyrus, which of course there will be. My 3rd knight was putting out 6 more and taking 19 fewer damage points than expected. The formulas may need a little tweaking, but they're still a very useful guide.


I have yet to see any of my 50 friends lvl 100+ use Phyrus's Nemesis. Is anyone using it at all? I'm at boss level 34 and doing fine without it, i'm just interested in the base stats/per level increase for the Data Sheet.

Wow, I don't have 50 level 100+ friends! None of mine are using Nemesis either.. yet. Last week people who bought Nemesis early got stung (I'd like to use stronger language) when the Nemesis+ was rolled out partway through the week. That act of GREEd may have put people off.


In any case, Nemesis always seems a waste to me (as if I had the gems...) Pay 20 gems to have a fractional chance of Nemesis which you still have to level up, or use fewer gems to force special hits (if you find need them) to get you through.

I think if GREE want people to buy the Nemesis against these new tougher bosses they need to have a special Nemesis chest for a guaranteed result, make it cheaper (how about 10 gems for an armor that is useful for less than 1 week), give it better defence so at level 43 it can stand more than 2 hits, and NOT annoy them a couple of days later by releasing a Nemesis+ armor.

[Unresolved]

I have yet to see any of my 50 friends lvl 100+ use Phyrus's Nemesis. Is anyone using it at all? I'm at boss level 34 and doing fine without it, i'm just interested in the base stats/per level increase for the Data Sheet.

It's because there are so many good armors to use on Phyrus. Jian, Jackalope, Eurus(takes a lot of damage though) are all common armors that are better than nemesis. Not one of my friends are using the Phyrus Nemesis which I am very grateful for, as it I find it a waste of a friend slot when they equip it. I actively avoid using friends who have it :p.

[Bearsuo]

I have yet to see any of my 50 friends lvl 100+ use Phyrus's Nemesis. Is anyone using it at all? I'm at boss level 34 and doing fine without it, i'm just interested in the base stats/per level increase for the Data Sheet.

There's a lot of JChains and Jians floating around, Nem is usually only marginally different (and substantially more susceptible to risk). Blame th' elements, IMO

[Lieda]

Eventually ppl gonna stop using nemesis unless they come up with a "decent" nemesis standard... Current ones gets eaten in 3 bites, i avoid friends with nemesis as well... Jians with their 1700/1500 are much better imo...

Having nemesis actually should at least make it so you reach lvl 43 comfortably...

[Marco_]

Wanted to quickly get level 27 done and then go to bed, but since level 28 was the next, I sent in my 3 knights and 2 second tier friends.
Ended up with Phyrus having 3K health left, me not wanting to stay awake another 2 hours, 2 wasted friend slots and realizing that the "least bad" option of having an AA+ first (followed by HH+ and a nearly maxed Swamp+) is now more a liability than a help, so I have to switch to 2+2/2 or 1+1 formation, because I just don't have 3 decent armors for this boss and I'm not willing to powerlevel a HH+ right now.
Looking on track to end up around level 35 when the event ends; steady progression from 1 boss to the next.

[Jello]

Just finished 39. 5 knights: Shaman+ 70, Jack reg 60, Eurus+ 70, Friend Jack+ (1610 atk), Friend Jack+ (1624 atk)

1) Shaman+ is doing 936/1406 crit, and taking 104 hit. Got 5 shots on Phyrus with Shaman+
2) Jack reg sucks, but but best 3rd armor I have for Phyrus. Hitting for 978. Only got 3 shots on Phyrus but 1 was a miss.
3) My Eurus+ is doing the best damage at 1722/2584 crit, but taking the most damage at 144/hit. Phyrus missed once on him so I got 6 hits on him (4 reg, 2 crit) - 12k of the 29,200 damage alone. I don't see anyone else with Eurus+ on my friend list. Most everyone is in Jack or Jian.
4) Friend Jack+ with 1610 atk hit for 1278/1918 crit. He got 6 shots in and was taking 99/149 damage.
5) Friend Jack+ with 1624 atk hit once for 1290 which finished off the boss.

I've thrown in a Jian friend now and then to see what they can do. A Jian with 1733 atk on level 35 hit the same as Jack with 1624 atk on level 39. I used another Jian on 36 but didn't track the hits/damage.

40 & 41 and possibly 42 should not be a problem with 5. 43 I may need a few extra SA hits with gems, or do a 4/3 rotation. Phyrus has 4.5% more defense than Notus, and 9% more defense than Eurus.

[Revelate]

So right now i am ~lvl 44 and working on maxing the Big Four (maxed 2 so far) and have completely filled out my castle. I would really like to get the armor from this boss but im not really sure if its even worth getting the non + version. If not concentrating on getting past 15 on this boss what should i be doing?

Thanks~
Aylok

Gold / Exp / Enhancement mats: these are all beneficial for a starting economy.

Time investment: small
Mainline health investment: none (zero detraction from levelling or farming rate)

Even at level 1 take on the boss: it's an effective use of time in game, it breaks up some of the more monotonous elements of the game, and I find it to be pretty engaging mechanic.

It should be done even if you can't reach the first armor strata, and absolutely even if you can't reach the second. Worst case crafting the 15 armor you get a potential secondary armor piece down the line (according to Beth's maximization strat, need 3 of every element pairing and there's only so many options reasonably obtainable without massive gem buying/expenditure), or a handy fusion piece. Also any of us starting are going to have to level a few decent 3/4 star armors in order to hit 43 in the first place: Big 4 and big friends won't cut it from what I can see.

That said, people's suggestions of not focusing on the legendary armor are absolutely right: at now 69 I'm levelling my first non-Big 4 armor (SS+) and the return on investment is incredibly low compared to the initial raising of Crius/AA/HH/LF plus versions. Frankly for the resources of every level enhancing a 70 armor, you can raise two of the Big 4 for the same cost (roughly napkin math wise)... and it only gets you to 50 on the level 70, and then I'm seeing in many cases armor is roughly at parity looking at the datasheet.

TLDR: Boss very good, getting to 15 is irrelevant when starting, 43 even more so, but focus on your Big 4 as until you get to Marsh there's zero need for anything else as there's always a good matchup, and you can friend gimp through that like I did.

--Rev

[Musketeer]

(according to Beth's maximization strat, need 3 of every element pairing and there's only so many options reasonably obtainable without massive gem buying/expenditure)

Actually you can get away with fewer sets than 3 of each combo.

There are only 10 possible element sets. Earth/Fire or Fire/Earth makes no difference in game terms.
Five of those are adjacent or paired elements - Water/Fire, Fire/Spirit, Spirit/Earth and so on round the circle.

Paired elements do double duty against Epic Bosses. For example this week we have an Earth/Fire boss, so the best options are water plus Fire or Earth. Either avoids taking extra damage while putting out 50% extra (Water vs. Fire).
Water/Fire is THE best armor against a Fire/Spirit Epic Boss. In this case Water/Earth is not good.
So the paired elements are the most valuable armors against epic bosses, and three good maxed out sets gives you a very good run against two different types of Epic Boss. In face three types iof you count mono-element bosses.

In contrast the non-paired options, water/spirit, water/earth etc, are my preference for Arena fights. They minimise your risks, but you only want one good set of each, because you want to present three different element pairs in the arena.

So really 20 armor slots at most should be occupied by your 'best option' armors. If you have three non-paired sets of maxed legendary covering all five elements between them, that's a very good set up for arena battles as you can rotate your armors to give a different attack pattern.

[Marco_]

[finishes boss]
"OK, that was my last epic boss level before going to bed"
[Phyrus drops 5 Epic Energy]
-_- Gree, why do you troll me like that?
Please make it drop EE in the morning or something like that, but not when I need to go to bed!..
Now I'll just have to use it to let my knights pad my leaderboard score with a few thousand points.

[Musketeer]

[finishes boss]
"OK, that was my last epic boss level before going to bed"
[Phyrus drops 5 Epic Energy]
-_- Gree, why do you troll me like that?
Please make it drop EE in the morning or something like that, but not when I need to go to bed!..
Now I'll just have to use it to let my knights pad my leaderboard score with a few thousand points.

The other time you are guaranteed the 5ee drop is when you've used all ten friends for the day and have more than five hours before they refresh.

[shimronfio]

hey guys I really would like to have your help in this dragon,I am level 107, so far I got to level 36 but I really need help to get to lvl 43. anyone who can help will be great.
XBC-NZR-YHZ or nickname: WereDragon.

[DarkVoltz]

hey guys I really would like to have your help in this dragon,I am level 107, so far I got to level 36 but I really need help to get to lvl 43. anyone who can help will be great.
XBC-NZR-YHZ or nickname: WereDragon.

im leveling 103, maxed jian, not plus tho ;-;
i can probly help, since i need help myself at level 35 xD

[Musketeer]

[finishes boss]
"OK, that was my last epic boss level before going to bed"
[Phyrus drops 5 Epic Energy]
-_- Gree, why do you troll me like that?
Please make it drop EE in the morning or something like that, but not when I need to go to bed!..
Now I'll just have to use it to let my knights pad my leaderboard score with a few thousand points.


Haha, 5 ee drop on my last kill tonight. I'd need to stay up to 12:45am to use it, and that ain't happening.

[Bearsuo]

Haha, 5 ee drop on my last kill tonight. I'd need to stay up to 12:45pm to use it, and that ain't happening.

Alternately son trolls and sleeps through the night for once ..

[EljayK]

Haven't had a 5ee drop since boss lvl 16. On 40 now. Argh. Jealousy.

[D3athShade]

At level 35, should be able to beat it, first time i get this high :) but i'm scared i won't make it to 43 =/

[Matti1992]

I think my boss just glitched a little bit. I got that 5 ee drop like was mentioned above except I had only used 8 friends. The weirder thing was that I could then use the same two friends for the following fight again, and it's still saying I can use two more. So I would have used 12 friends today!

[Jello]

I think my boss just glitched a little bit. I got that 5 ee drop like was mentioned above except I had only used 8 friends. The weirder thing was that I could then use the same two friends for the following fight again, and it's still saying I can use two more. So I would have used 12 friends today!

That's odd. I've had the reverse happen to me. I choose my Knights, then choose my 2 friends, then hit the start button. But then I decide to change something around before I initiate the fight. When I go back to change things around, it used up the 2 friends so I couldn't select them again, and I lost 2 friends for the day.

[EljayK]

At level 35, should be able to beat it, first time i get this high :) but i'm scared i won't make it to 43 =/

Hey don't worry about it!! You'll get the next one. You can get Infernal Lord's for these elements. Next one is all you though!

[Matti1992]

That's odd. I've had the reverse happen to me. I choose my Knights, then choose my 2 friends, then hit the start button. But then I decide to change something around before I initiate the fight. When I go back to change things around, it used up the 2 friends so I couldn't select them again, and I lost 2 friends for the day.

Ouch, that would be really frustrating. I went into a battle with my main knight and two friends to finish him off. He dropped the 5ee and then when I had built back up to 10 energies, the same two friends I used before were already selected to fight. Seeing that this was some kind of glitch I didn't dare to deselect them, so I added in another knight of my own and fought him. When I looked back I can still hire two friends to finish him off again, very odd.

[KayOrzz]

well jello, now we know where those two friends went to. another mystery solved! :D

[Marco_]

Hmm, I gotta work on my friend list... When checking what I have available to me for levels 32-35 today and tomorrow, I noticed I only have 7 people above me in levels on my friend list and based on the armors, not all of those are competing for the epic boss. (though a Nemesis 4 levels below me also works decently)

Let's see if any or all of Cire, Roark, Punishment and a few others accept my friend request...

[BethMo]

I choose my Knights, then choose my 2 friends, then hit the start button. But then I decide to change something around before I initiate the fight. When I go back to change things around, it used up the 2 friends so I couldn't select them again, and I lost 2 friends for the day.

Once you hit the start button, that's it -- you've used your energy and your friends.

[BileJAR]

I've had a situation similar to that, beth. I'd get my knights all ready, and then I'd exit out of the boss screen and do something else real quick, such as fusing armor. Then I'd go back to fight and repick the same 2 friends I previously were about to use, and then they'd be gone and it would say I've already used them. It sucks, too. ;-;

[EljayK]

Yesterday I lined up my knights for a fight with full energy, and when the fight was going on, my FPS dropped so low the game shut out. Came back in, they were used. However, this morning the same thing happened, and it rolled me back to my last save. Bad timing maybe?

[Musketeer]

I think my boss just glitched a little bit. I got that 5 ee drop like was mentioned above except I had only used 8 friends. The weirder thing was that I could then use the same two friends for the following fight again, and it's still saying I can use two more. So I would have used 12 friends today!

Are you sure you hadn't taken 23 hours since the last 10 friends start time?

[Wdraizen]

It's mah be spam but I need active strong players that Could help me. I'm level 168 with. Counter armor XBB-MNG-XRQ

[Jello]

Once you hit the start button, that's it -- you've used your energy and your friends.

Not completely true BethMo. Apparently you may lose your 1 or 2 friends, but EE remains as long as you don't hit FIGHT. I hit the start or continue button after it shows all 5 knights going into battle. Then the boss is on left, knights are on right, the FIGHT button is at the bottom, and the X is in the upper right. I hit the X to go back and chose my 3 knights and 2 other friends and started right away. EE was still there, just the 2 friends I chose were not.

I would say you're probably correct if I hit the FIGHT button that the EE would be gone, but haven't tested it.

[Musketeer]

Hit my 43 today. Oddly level 43 gave me much less trouble than 42 where I burnt 7 gems because I didn't want to have to return for a second round.

In fact I was just using up spare energy, and planning to make a proper run at 43 in 5 hours when my friends list refreshed. Instead I was able to do it with 5/2, the 2 being my own knights, and no gems used.

Set Phyrus+ cooking immediately alongside Notus+.

[FlipDaddy]

Congrats Musketeer. I'd love to see stats on how many people get BK+ but I doubt they'll release any.

[buchilala]

Downed 43 this afternoon, with 5ee bonus... Why give me this now Gree!!!

[Matti1992]

Are you sure you hadn't taken 23 hours since the last 10 friends start time?

Yeah, I had only started my new day's worth of friends about 5 hours beforehand. None of my stronger friends were available and it's still saying I've got 12 hours before I can use my friends again. I finished the boss off with another two friends so I managed three fights of 2/2 and 1/2 in a day. It's definitely a glitch of some sort as usually there would only be two knights left for the third fight.

[Roark]

might hit 51 this week for the first time

actually 46+ would be a first lol

[Musketeer]

Congrats Musketeer. I'd love to see stats on how many people get BK+ but I doubt they'll release any.

It takes 796,268 damage minimum to earn the materials via 43 kills, so right now there's 363 people who could qualify on Phyrus+. Then there's the people who just go to the summoning stone for their last few materials, no way to quantify that.

We can check the leaderboard again just as the event is ending, but probably around 500 iOS users by the end. Of course some of those may have done levels more than once if they failed.

[Hildigam]

i honestly think about 1200 people will end up with Bkal. Last week I hit 43 fairly early and jsut stopped. By the end of the week i was like place 700ish. just throwing it out there

[BethMo]

I hit the X to go back and chose my 3 knights and 2 other friends and started right away. EE was still there, just the 2 friends I chose were not.

Fascinating. I tried to back out and fix order once, many many bosses ago, and what I remember is that it used up the energy and the friends. Having been burned by it once, I've made sure not to do it again. So either I'm remembering wrong (always a distinct possibility when I didn't write anything down or take pictures!), or it's been changed since then, or it glitched for one or the other of us. ;)

[Lord Ash]

Just crushed #47 wanting 51 on this boss to end the event nicely ... Looking forward to Wars and BK+

[Marco_]

It takes 796,268 damage minimum to earn the materials via 43 kills, so right now there's 363 people who could qualify on Phyrus+.
Oh wow, on Android only 31 people above that number at the moment.

[Spongie]

Mm I just beat 23 today.. 43 seems so far away..

[DarkVoltz]

what the hell, i was on 40
then it took me back to 39 O.o

[Marco_]

Mm I just beat 23 today.. 43 seems so far away..
The glass half full way of looking at it: I think I've added something like 5 extra level with each new boss.
This evening I should be getting 35, so very soon I should be getting my first "plus".


what the hell, i was on 40
then it took me back to 39 O.o
I guess your phone didn't save your progress correctly and you've gotten a rollback. :(
From what I've read a way to force-save to the server is to swap armor on your Commander in My Knights and press Okay.

[EljayK]

Pretty sure I'm out of the race.

at 41, trying for 42, last night has one hit left on him, boss has one hit left on him. Swing and a miss! Boss power attacks. 248 health left, on my 3 in the 4/3. Not worth the gems in my opinion. Starting fresh in a day.

[Roark]

whoa, good job GREE, must have done a sweep in the Epic Boss standings because I jumped from 12th to 4th in one win

[Marco_]

whoa, good job GREE, must have done a sweep in the Epic Boss standings because I jumped from 12th to 4th in one win
Ah, I was wondering why I jumped from about 52 to 42...

[momocoast]

we need guild bonus on android to be more efficient




momocoast LVl 70+

[Sakino]

I hitted just 35, level 89, using swamp shaman on the maxing, maxed atlan avenger and maxed spectrail capitain, plus 1550/1200 friends whit jians, saving the 1730/1500 for the level jumps.

[Roark]

we need guild bonus on android to be more efficient

the bonus is presently 0 and is at maximum efficiency

[Marco_]

OK, level 35 was an everything that can go wrong will go wrong thing for me.
The 2+2 run: mistimed my special attacks, so the double strong, single weak friend didn't get any special attack in
The 1+2 run: Nemesis friend missed once and I forgot that 3 gems were at stake, so I could have gemmed 2 extra specials attacks and still have come out ahead...
Result: boss has 1900 health left and no time for a new attempt (without spending more than the 3 gems at stake) . :(

[Roark]

SA mistakes are the worst

I hate when I've pressed to use a gem, then I build up enough swings to do a SA without needing them gem but now it shows as being unselected and I don't press it in time

that's the worst

[hlw_rocer]

have the + armor crafting
wooo

[Marco_]

LOL, the heat wave is really messing with my mind...
"why isn't there an announcement of the new boss yet and why is Phyrus still hanging around?"
[checks arena tournament timer]
"oops, off by a day"...
Unexpectedly time for 2 or 3 more boss runs. :)

[Spongie]

Haha.. timers can be confusing.. I am at 25 atm prob.wont make it to 28 but still a record for me.
Not bad considering this is my 3rd whole week I am playing.. missed a little on the first dragon only

[littlefishxbj]

I kinda agree, if you're new there really is an extremely low chance you'll be able to get 15 kills, I ended up not being able to beat my 1st Epic Boss, though after that I'd at LEAST aim for the 15, that way down the road he'll have a chance to summon it for + when another 5 gems per boss special event comes by.
Hi zero, I wonder whether the summon discount ever happened Android before.
I was waiting to get plus boreas as well.
Btw, do you think the Phyrus is anygood to get the plus?

[XBDMRRFPN]

OK, level 35 was an everything that can go wrong will go wrong thing for me.
The 2+2 run: mistimed my special attacks, so the double strong, single weak friend didn't get any special attack in
The 1+2 run: Nemesis friend missed once and I forgot that 3 gems were at stake, so I could have gemmed 2 extra specials attacks and still have come out ahead...
Result: boss has 1900 health left and no time for a new attempt (without spending more than the 3 gems at stake) . :(
I stopped thinking about this at level 30, I wouldn't make it anyway I am not strong enough and my friends wear weak armors (don't know why since the have better ones), I am focused on getting the Dark Prince armor (for the quest not to wear it)

[Tha_lildude]

I think it's freaking bs that the boss uses two specials upon the second time you attack him after you get energy. I also think its bs that I can't beat 43 with a maxed jack+ and maxed Juan and maxed hydra+ and I hired two friends who have Jian+ (1700-1500) and then on my second time i bring my jack+ and another friend who's has jian+ and I still can't beat it. I call bs to gree. I tried it last night with this setup and then again this morning with the setup again, both times leaving the boss with about 1000 health.

[Tha_lildude]

I am so furious right now

[Roark]

I thnik for 43 I just straightup used 12 gems, friends are too valuable on a boss this strong

[ZERO_07]

Hi zero, I wonder whether the summon discount ever happened Android before.
I was waiting to get plus boreas as well.
Btw, do you think the Phyrus is anygood to get the plus?
I'm not sure I started playing for about a month now.

As for the Phyrus+ I'm not sure, I read someone mention that Notus+ is good for Arena.

[Hildigam]

I think it's freaking bs that the boss uses two specials upon the second time you attack him after you get energy. I also think its bs that I can't beat 43 with a maxed jack+ and maxed Juan and maxed hydra+ and I hired two friends who have Jian+ (1700-1500) and then on my second time i bring my jack+ and another friend who's has jian+ and I still can't beat it. I call bs to gree. I tried it last night with this setup and then again this morning with the setup again, both times leaving the boss with about 1000 health.

You tried a 4/3 split? A 5/2 Split? Or just go for the gold not trying to attack again?

[Sakino]

I think that a 4/3 is better because you get another friend to use, and usually friends are better than secondary knights, filling the 1000 hp gap.

[Hildigam]

The double special kinda lets you know i guess. Sorry bout that. But anyway, a 4/3 lets you use 4 friends as Sakino mentioned. I just prefer to boldface a 12gem revive and not deal with it.

[D3athShade]

well got to 35 and had to use gems. This is as far as i get...

[Marco_]

Hi zero, I wonder whether the summon discount ever happened Android before.
You mean summoning stone all available epic bosses for 5 gems? AFAIK all sales happen at both platforms at the same time and in the about a month I've been playing on Android, I've seen that sale once.


The team of Vader, Roark, Aradan and LadyNightyKnight dragged me past level 35 with just about 100 health left on our side (and me forgetting to buy 1 or 2 special attacks again; damn you tunnelvision for making it close...) .

[goes hunting for some more high level (Android) friends, since less than 10 viable picks for level 35+ is problematic]

[Derp]

Why! Lvl 15 illudes me! Out of nemisis friends and cant down him. Zzz..WBB-VDZ-MHB

[BethMo]

You mean summoning stone all available epic bosses for 5 gems? AFAIK all sales happen at both platforms at the same time and in the about a month I've been playing on Android, I've seen that sale once.

I've been playing since (I think) February and I've seen it twice. Not something they do very often.

[Musketeer]

I think it's freaking bs that the boss uses two specials upon the second time you attack him after you get energy. I also think its bs that I can't beat 43 with a maxed jack+ and maxed Juan and maxed hydra+ and I hired two friends who have Jian+ (1700-1500) and then on my second time i bring my jack+ and another friend who's has jian+ and I still can't beat it. I call bs to gree. I tried it last night with this setup and then again this morning with the setup again, both times leaving the boss with about 1000 health.

You may have been unlucky with misses. I managed 43 with a similar setup. Firts knight was in Infernal Lord+, just to take those first few hits to build up the special meter. Main in Jack+, third in HH+, and then I think I had friends in maxed Eurus+. Eurus+ takes extra damage but also whack out more, so it balances out, especially if they get a special hit.

Well, you've got 1 1/2 hours to try again before the boss leaves.

[BileJAR]

I can safely and happily say that I will be one of the people to receive the Bkal+!! It's been a long 4 gruesome weeks of gem spending, time consumption, stop upgrading current armors to level the boss armor. All and all, I spent a little over 10$. Including tax. Regardless, I'm still very happy and satisfied! TAKE THAT ANCIENT DRAGONS WOO HOO!

http://youtu.be/ANk8xlsp1pQ?t=20s My victory song. :)

[Sakino]

You may have been unlucky with misses. I managed 43 with a similar setup. Firts knight was in Infernal Lord+, just to take those first few hits to build up the special meter. Main in Jack+, third in HH+, and then I think I had friends in maxed Eurus+. Eurus+ takes extra damage but also whack out more, so it balances out, especially if they get a special hit.

Well, you've got 1 1/2 hours to try again before the boss leaves. is enough to get to 42 for me, at this point i will simply summon the boss once and dont pu tso much effort on a bos who got a high stats pull up, i ended up killing 35 whit 85 mats, maybe some sales and i will get it on, now i saved energy for the next boss, while i will get past 35.( i dont stop to hope for pre deva stats bosses.. Even alternating whit higher stats bosses and whit a bit weaker armors... Please...)