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Eidand
07-24-2013, 10:42 AM
Hi guys,
One question if it's ok.
I am almost done building my town. I have 11 TGs, 1 Nest and 3 Armories. I wanted to get my 4-th armory done but i noticed it requires 20 gems to build. Is this normal or just a bug ?

Bearsuo
07-24-2013, 10:48 AM
It's normal. I did fine with 3 armories until this dragon event, for what little that's worth

KayOrzz
07-24-2013, 10:54 AM
3-5 smiths depending on need, although i wouldn't recommend having 5. juggle between gold income and armor output according to your needs.

Eidand
07-24-2013, 10:56 AM
well that kinda makes me think I might as well build another TG then

Bearsuo
07-24-2013, 11:17 AM
well that kinda makes me think I might as well build another TG then

As a purely gut feeling sort of thing, the balance might have tipped towards gold with the guild bonuses, and starting out you may find fairly fluctuating gold reserves. I've had millions, and been suffocating for 25,000...

Eidand
07-24-2013, 11:31 AM
gold it is ! :)

Maximous2.0
07-24-2013, 12:05 PM
I have 5 smiths and I don't regret getting the 5th one. I would build a 4th if you can, but that's just me. Can never go wrong with another TF though.

Musketeer
07-24-2013, 07:56 PM
When you're crafting snakeskin armors it feels nice to have 4 armorsmiths, as they take so long to do.
For crafting commons and basics, 3 is suffiicient.
When you get onto fusing basics to make 50ep enhancers for topping out legendary armors, you only really need 1.

I built a fourth for the current event, but am thinking of going back to 3 for the future. I owe my Guild a lot of cash for building bonuses, and another TG would do help. Since I paid 20 gems for my 4th smithy it's going to be a tough decision to dump it.

Roark
07-25-2013, 02:20 PM
given the 4 spaces to enhance, I've never questioned having less than 4

Eidand
07-26-2013, 01:06 PM
well, after taking some time to think about it, I decided to go with a 4-th armory after all.
I am pretty happy with my current town, 11 TFs, 1 nest and 4 armories, all of them at lvl 3 :)

Woggy
08-01-2013, 12:32 AM
I'd get rid of the nest.....

My set up is 11 Training Fields, 1 Dungeon and 4 Armorsmiths, and then the rest being the mandatory things like Arena, Fusion Master and Chance Chest.

I go alright in gold, but it's always good to be able to craft as many armors as possible

Eidand
08-01-2013, 01:05 PM
i paid 40 gems to upgrade the nest so it stays right where it is :)

Add XBC WNR XDD
08-01-2013, 03:04 PM
Upgraded nest rocks if you play with any sort of regularity. It actually produces more than the TF3 per aarea while you are online to collect.

Personally, I upgraded all my TFs to level 3 and found that 3 smiths left me with a constant bottleneck for production and lots of extra gold, so I built a fourth smith. I don't have much extra for guild donations, but I think that everyone benefits from me getting myself multiple maxed out **** armours (especially true during the dragon event and for bkal+).

Marco_
08-02-2013, 04:10 AM
I'm now unlocking the 2 million expansion, for which I collected the gold while at the same time leveling Infernal+ from 1 to 36 and for the last few levels of Swamp+ my gold didn't drop to zero either, so putting 2 TFs there would be pointless, so I'll put a TF and a 4th Armorsmith there.

Nicco
08-02-2013, 04:38 AM
I think having your TF's at lvl 3 is what makes the difference in the end, that added gold production more than makes up for the gold lost by having a 4th Armory.

Eidand
08-03-2013, 01:30 AM
It sure does, TFs at lvl 3 produce enough gold to keep you going and contributing to you guild as well

cubey
08-03-2013, 07:02 AM
Hmm, I finally built my last expansion and decided to go a 4th armory. I am finding that I am not making enough gold to enhance my armor everytime I finish crafting my snakeskins. I think I might destroy it later when I have 35 gems for TF3.

XBDMRRFPN
08-03-2013, 08:33 AM
It sure does, TFs at lvl 3 produce enough gold to keep you going and contributing to you guild as well
the point is that you have to use real money to get enough gems, isn't it?
I am thinking about it in the next sales window

Marco_
08-03-2013, 08:37 AM
Hmm, I finally built my last expansion and decided to go a 4th armory. I am finding that I am not making enough gold to enhance my armor everytime I finish crafting my snakeskins. I think I might destroy it later when I have 35 gems for TF3.
At what point did you count?
In the process of leveling a level70 armor your gold should rise for the first levels and then go down for the last few levels.
With 9 TF3, 1 TF2, 2 Smith2 and 1 Smith3 and the last expansion still being hammered on, I've been doing I think about 35-40% Snakeskin and 60-65% uncommon_lvl11 which is more wallclock time efficient and less gold efficient than just Snakeskin and I think in spite of that until something like level 60 of the armor crafting capacity is much more a bottleneck than gold for me now, so not adding a 4th Armorsmith would add more gold without fixing the real bottleneck. (even more bottlenecked now that Roc+ is blocking my Smith3 until about the same time the last expansion is finished; just also think about those boss armors locking up one of your Armorsmiths for 3 days minus 5 or 10% when crafting...)

Marco_
08-03-2013, 08:53 AM
the point is that you have to use real money to get enough gems, isn't it?

If you don't get a bunch from free gems offers like some people and you don't want to take it slowly, then yeah.
Storyline quests should have given you a few dozen gems total, each set of 3 tournament quests gives you 1 gem, tournament gives you gems from place 1500 and upward and epic boss gives you 1 gem at 21 and 3 gems at 35 (and 5 at 60...) .
Depending on how fanatically you try in the tournament, I guess a TF3 every 1 1/2-3 weeks should be possible if you don't get free gems and don't buy them either.

Eidand
08-03-2013, 10:39 AM
the point is that you have to use real money to get enough gems, isn't it?
I am thinking about it in the next sales window

Guess I was lucky , I leveled all my buildings with offers and videos. A single offer for LoveFilm brought me 145 gems :)

cubey
08-03-2013, 03:57 PM
At what point did you count?
In the process of leveling a level70 armor your gold should rise for the first levels and then go down for the last few levels.

You're right sorry. I did start counting when it was 50+ so that might be why it seems like I am bottlenecked by money. With my last craft I was actually short the mats for the 4th snakeskin zzz.. I thought i had such a huge stockpile of this.Android really needs a mats count.

Marco_
08-03-2013, 04:41 PM
For me my Infernal+ leveling has slowed to a crawl because Roc+ is also crafting and 2 free smiths to craft enhancing armors is a terrible bottleneck, so my gold has been going up by about 200K over the course of Infernal+ about level 40-46. If I had 3 smiths available, gold would probably have stayed neutral and with 4 available it probably would have gone down. (Though with epic boss armor crafting times thrown in the mix, you won't often have 4 smiths available to craft enhancing armors.)
So I'll be really glad that my last expansion will be finished in the morning and I can place my 4th smith on it.

Spongie
08-03-2013, 05:44 PM
Well thing is IOS users get much more offers then android people.. first week of playing I got 2 video offers.. and now I havn't seen 1 in days.. I just had enough gems to get my first lvl 3 tf. All the others are just lvl 2 with also 3 Smiths being there.
Atm I have more then 1 mil. And gold is coming in steady. Might get my 1mil. Expension soon I just wait a little longer since the 70 armors
Needs loads of cash at the end.

Musketeer
08-03-2013, 07:09 PM
I find myself short of crafting materials frequently, it doesn't take long to burn through a pile of snakeskin with 4 armories, and I don't like having an armorsmith sitting idle too long.

I'm chucking my 4th Armorsmith and putting back in another training field. I get woken in the night (more than once) by my 16mo son, so having a stock of extra snakeskin to throw in to cook feels better than having an unemployed smith (or several) most of the time.

I can always donate excess gold to my Guild, we still have long way to go to max our Bonuses, and the war is bound to eat up our Guardians.

For Android users it's more difficult, Gold beyond what you need for crafting is useless once you have the castle filled, but one day there will be Guilds, and then having a ton of spare gold to spend on bonuses might seem worthwhile.

XBDMRRFPN
08-03-2013, 07:16 PM
Guess I was lucky , I leveled all my buildings with offers and videos. A single offer for LoveFilm brought me 145 gems :)
never had such occasion just got 3-4 gems from offers in a month...

XBDMRRFPN
08-03-2013, 07:17 PM
I find myself short of crafting materials frequently, it doesn't take long to burn through a pile of snakeskin with 4 armories, and I don't like having an armorsmith sitting idle too long.

I'm chucking my 4th Armorsmith and putting back in another training field. I get woken in the night (more than once) by my 16mo son, so having a stock of extra snakeskin to throw in to cook feels better than having an unemployed smith (or several) most of the time.

I can always donate excess gold to my Guild, we still have long way to go to max our Bonuses, and the war is bound to eat up our Guardians.

For Android users it's more difficult, Gold beyond what you need for crafting is useless once you have the castle filled, but one day there will be Guilds, and then having a ton of spare gold to spend on bonuses might seem worthwhile.
besides donating to guild gives you some boost armors... and enhance your bonus on the main colors
that are very helpful!
I will go for just 3 armorsmiths and the rest TF

SoloStar
08-03-2013, 07:52 PM
3 armory smiths is the way to go if you don't have the materials to mass craft for a long time.

Matti1992
08-07-2013, 08:26 AM
I decided to stick with just the 3 armories. Even having enough snakeskins to fill that seems to be pretty tedious right now so for me it's definitely worth adding in the extra TF. I've been able to donate a lot of money to my guild which is a good compromise.

XBDMRRFPN
08-07-2013, 09:04 AM
Guess I was lucky , I leveled all my buildings with offers and videos. A single offer for LoveFilm brought me 145 gems :)
I couldn't get more than 3 gems so far from offers