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Musketeer
07-16-2013, 09:15 AM
The next Dragon should be Zephyr or Zephyrus, if they're going round the compass. Failing that, it should be Notus.

We've had Spirit/Water and Air/Water. I think we're due Fire/Earth, which hasn't appeared as a boss combo since I started playing (during Faerie Swarm, ten bosses ago). If we don't get Fire/Earth this time we should get it next time, making Jackalope the ideal armor.

The remaining Dragon should be Spirit/Air, another combo that hasn't appeared in my time, which would make Pyromancer's a good armor to have.

Either of these combinations also makes the first two Dragon armors poor options, which would be in keeping with making it hard to complete the series, since you'll be working on crafting armors you can't use while possibly having to level other armors or use during the event.

Bearsuo
07-16-2013, 09:19 AM
This is a post I wanted to think about, and never got around to. Hat tip to you!

I'm just curious if one dragon will he weak to Deva, but single element weakness would be a soft way to make the last dragon harder than the others, a theory that's floated a few times.

Edit: I've been playing longer - since Gremlin - and Boreas is the first A/W in that time. There have been no A/S in that time, and the one E/F was a while back - Hannibal Half Dragon. Not that that necessarily drives boss elements (hello three mono shadows...), but it would be funny if that linked up with "ancient" dragons.

Eunuchorn
07-16-2013, 10:50 AM
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s657/TehEunuchorn/null_zps75c11715.jpg

Courtesy of Daemon. I believe someone in my guild has been playing longer but frankly didn't care enough to figure out who. Sadly, I've been here since Banshee.

Leosimas
07-16-2013, 02:17 PM
I think it'll be Zepyrus something of the West.
Earth/Spirit my guess.

Iamofownage
07-16-2013, 02:38 PM
I believe the next one will be earth/Air

Bax
07-16-2013, 03:38 PM
I would love it to be earth/fire, but whatever it is it should have at least one of those two elements in it.

BileJAR
07-16-2013, 03:41 PM
Please no more spirit/air. PLEASE. My 2 death elements.

Dexavus
07-16-2013, 04:15 PM
I'm with the OP, I'm thinking fire/earth then spirit/air to finish out the event, guess we'll have to wait and see :)

ZERO_07
07-16-2013, 04:35 PM
Earth is my next guess

Roark
07-16-2013, 04:39 PM
just earth

ZERO_07
07-16-2013, 04:41 PM
Any combination of Earth I mean, just hopefully no more waters combos. Also does anyone have the picture of the 4 ancient dragons shadows for the event?

EDIT:

nevermind found it.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130706012503/knightsanddragons/images/f/fb/Ancient_dragons_banner.png

It looks like the one one the left is reddish color, so it might be Fire, and the one on the right is really bulky looking which is a characteristic of most Earth armors.

Bayglez
07-16-2013, 07:18 PM
As the previous 2 are both names of the 4 directional/seasonal
Greek Gods my guess is the last two will be an earth (spring) and fire (summer)

Musketeer
07-16-2013, 07:49 PM
As the previous 2 are both names of the 4 directional/seasonal
Greek Gods my guess is the last two will be an earth (spring) and fire (summer)

They're the Greek names for the four winds, East, North, West and South, as Eos informed us in another thread.

JashGanz
07-16-2013, 08:25 PM
Based on that picture of the four dragons, the one on the far right looks like some type of variation of earth to me...

overcire
07-16-2013, 10:00 PM
I would agree fire/? and earth/? are expected. fire/air is my guess for next week (over done - flame summoners shroud) fire/water is hard to pull off. Need a two headed bird or some non-sense. fire psychic is just as legit a guess, but all of those 'armours' so far have been robes and I don't see a mighty dragon dropping a flimsy robe. fire mono is dumb, only because of the recent wanderer. And fire/earth would be fine, but that other dragon looks so earthy that I don't want the earth one to then just decide to be earth/fire.

Discussion closed. Definitely going to be Fire/Air and then mono Earth. Leaving me with no legendary Earth/air. Not that tortoiseshell was amazing, just missed it for this boss.

palehorsem4n
07-17-2013, 07:38 AM
Spirit/Air and Earth/Fire are my predictions, in that order. Sky guardian has been top S/A for far too long..

Issaquah
07-17-2013, 07:50 AM
Could each boss be a wind combo? Seems like a longshot but it would align with the 4 directional wind theme. Wind/earth then wind/fire? discuss :)

EljayK
07-17-2013, 07:54 AM
I called out in another thread that my guesses (since the first) were water/air, fire/air, mono earth.

So far I've been right. Hoping I'm not wrong. But I have no assurance.

Musketeer
07-17-2013, 07:54 AM
Could each boss be a wind combo? Seems like a longshot but it would align with the 4 directional wind theme. Wind/earth then wind/fire? discuss :)

A bit too late since the first boss didn't have the wind element.

EljayK
07-17-2013, 07:55 AM
A bit too late since the first boss didn't have the wind element.

Maybe. But Water would still be viable.

Sir.
07-17-2013, 10:00 AM
Been discussing this a fair bit on Line. I'm also going by the picture posted on this thread earlier. The boss to the right is the next one, followed by the one to the left.

The one to the left quite obviously seems to have a fire element. Notus being the bringer of late summer storms seems viable for this dragon. This leaves Zephyrus for the third and next dragon.

Zephyrus seems bulky so the earth element would come to mind as first, but due to it's name (Zephyr Plateau) spirit/air seems very likely as well. Theme-wise, as bringer of fructifying wind and messenger of the spring, earth/air would be the other possibility to my believe.

Notus having the fire element, there's again two options to choose from imo. Fire/earth seems a likely option due to the elements of the past bosses (haven't had that in quite a while, replaces inf+, as replacing story armors seems to be a trend as well lately, and we've had fire/air quite recently). Theme-wise fire/air would be a more likely option. Not sure how it would explain Eurus not having air, but then again I think water/fire would be the most suitable for that one anyway.

My conclusion: next boss s/a or e/a (seems 50-50 to me), last boss f/e or f/a (first one being my first guess).

Sakino
07-17-2013, 10:51 AM
I think that the bulky one( the next) will surely be earth whit not probably magic and water due to sasquatch and jackalope, maybe air or fire, near surely fire because we had only hannibal and not wing wurm plus tortoise.

The last will surely have fire, look at those eyes. I have an idea about this weird guy... No magic, deva. No air, the summoner, and no earth,the last boss. We will be destroyed by something more dangerous than this two headed bird... Max fast this boreas +, in my honest opinion, and be ready to place jian battlegear on the wardrobe.

buchilala
07-17-2013, 01:03 PM
Having kept up in the "this event is too easy thread" and wondering how they could ensure difficultly, any thought to the final dragon being kaleidoscope/rainbow in "element"? That would raise te difficulty, ensure bk+ is not so easily obtained, and make a certain level of sense given the reward.

As for the next dragon my vote is fire/earth, with the final one being kaleidoscope, or because of no other, spirit/air.

Roark
07-17-2013, 01:14 PM
I just hope I don't need my Pyromancer's yet, haven't unlocked the + yet

Dexavus
07-17-2013, 01:15 PM
Having kept up in the "this event is too easy thread" and wondering how they could ensure difficultly, any thought to the final dragon being kaleidoscope/rainbow in "element"? That would raise te difficulty, ensure bk+ is not so easily obtained, and make a certain level of sense given the reward.

As for the next dragon my vote is fire/earth, with the final one being kaleidoscope, or because of no other, spirit/air.

I doubt they'd make a kale dragon considering b kale+ is the reward, if they did that it would make the reward not as good since you'd have the dragon kale armor anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see triple element bosses sometime in the future though, now that would be tough.

buchilala
07-17-2013, 01:31 PM
I doubt they'd make a kale dragon considering b kale+ is the reward, if they did that it would make the reward not as good since you'd have the dragon kale armor anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see triple element bosses sometime in the future though, now that would be tough.

Yeah the more I thought about it the less likely it seemed. But triple would be awesome tough.

Bearsuo
07-17-2013, 02:38 PM
Having kept up in the "this event is too easy thread" and wondering how they could ensure difficultly, any thought to the final dragon being kaleidoscope/rainbow in "element"? That would raise te difficulty, ensure bk+ is not so easily obtained, and make a certain level of sense given the reward.

As for the next dragon my vote is fire/earth, with the final one being kaleidoscope, or because of no other, spirit/air.

The BK dragon is my favorite pet theory.

buchilala
07-17-2013, 03:43 PM
The BK dragon is my favorite pet theory.

Yeah, after 7 pages in the other thread I figured you'd be one to appreciate the BK dragon. Waiting for the RR elite to grab this idea and take it over there.

Musketeer
07-17-2013, 04:02 PM
1 hour to go to 3rd Dragon!

D3athShade
07-17-2013, 04:38 PM
20 minutes or so left, really curious about the next dragon. Too bad i do nightshift at my work and there is no wifi here so can't play and i miss 4 hours because of that. :( oh well, let me know what the elements are so i can plan my strategy ahead :) (good thing i know all my armors by heart :D )

Roark
07-17-2013, 04:51 PM
4 hours is not bad if you use 8 EE at 10 and let it come back to 10 4 hours later

not that I check my phone all the time and have timers memorized and plan parts of my day around it, nope nope nope

ZERO_07
07-17-2013, 04:52 PM
20 minutes or so left, really curious about the next dragon. Too bad i do nightshift at my work and there is no wifi here so can't play and i miss 4 hours because of that. :( oh well, let me know what the elements are so i can plan my strategy ahead :) (good thing i know all my armors by heart :D )
I work night shift and am lucky enough to get WiFi there XD

That's how I went from 1,800 from my very 1st tourney to 500's on this one.

After building and upgrading most of my Training Fields to Lv.3, leveling up my Knights to Lv.54, getting 2 Legendary armors and 3 of the Big Four, a lot of Lv 60+ Allies, and a steady flow of Gems on the way, I think I finally have enough resource now to have a chance at crafting my very first Legendary + Armor next boss, I hope it's Air/Earth, I absolutely hate how most of my team is weak to AA and Crius+ really isn't cutting it for me.

Sakino
07-17-2013, 05:04 PM
Air magic notus.. Welcome, first air magic epic boss!( how is this thing supposed to fly? Even have wings...)

Musketeer
07-17-2013, 05:11 PM
Spirit/Air!!! So as hoped (at least by me) Pyromancer is the ideal armor to wear.

So much for the fat silhouette indicating Earth.

Defence is stronger than Boreas, indicating the 4th Dragon is going to be tougher still, and for this one we can't get a double whammy.

Bax
07-17-2013, 05:11 PM
I think it seals it that the 4th dragon will be earth/fire now :)

gexstar
07-17-2013, 05:13 PM
I think it seals it that the 4th dragon will be earth/fire now :)

Im a little disappointed though, since Sky Guardian+ is better than this one it will be useless for lots of people.

Sky Guardian+ is not that rare, since its only a 3*.

D3athShade
07-17-2013, 05:15 PM
**** spirit air? Only have living flame maxed... Got the fire/spirit and the mono fire from one of last bosses but they are only lvl 5 or so. FUUUUU which one would you max? The mono or the fire/spirit?

Sakino
07-17-2013, 05:31 PM
**** spirit air? Only have living flame maxed... Got the fire/spirit and the mono fire from one of last bosses but they are only lvl 5 or so. FUUUUU which one would you max? The mono or the fire/spirit?
The one whit higher stats, wander, but probably deva is a more wise choiche for long time use.

EljayK
07-18-2013, 07:28 AM
Well, my guess was wrong. Looks like no fire/air anyhow. If the last one is fire/earth, I'm hoping it looks like a bug. Like a Scyther or something.

deathexe
07-18-2013, 07:36 AM
**** spirit air? Only have living flame maxed... Got the fire/spirit and the mono fire from one of last bosses but they are only lvl 5 or so. FUUUUU which one would you max? The mono or the fire/spirit?

Go for deva. It would benefit more from guild bonuses and would help you with this boss at the same time.

Matti1992
07-18-2013, 07:50 AM
I think that the last dragon will be a fire/air combo. Judging by that banner it should look a lot better than this week's boss.

Musketeer
07-18-2013, 07:56 AM
I think that the last dragon will be a fire/air combo. Judging by that banner it should look a lot better than this week's boss.

I'm still guessing fire/Earth for Zephyrus. Fire/Air would allow people to use the same armors they used against Boreas, so there'd be less pressure on possible crafting time.

Matti1992
07-18-2013, 08:02 AM
I'm still guessing fire/Earth for Zephyrus. Fire/Air would allow people to use the same armors they used against Boreas, so there'd be less pressure on possible crafting time.

True, that would make it a bit easy but they could counter that by ramping up the stats a bit. Either way a fire/earth or fire/air could make a very cool looking boss and hopefully armour. This week's is a bit disappointing in my opinion.

Sakino
07-18-2013, 08:55 AM
Lets bet on the new dragon element, Hilliam Will stile :D

Bearsuo
07-18-2013, 09:57 AM
The next Dragon should be Zephyr or Zephyrus, if they're going round the compass. Failing that, it should be Notus.

The remaining Dragon should be Spirit/Air, another combo that hasn't appeared in my time, which would make Pyromancer's a good armor to have.

I want to call out that Musketeer was right in one. Pew pew

--

And on a Notus note, I have a maxed AR+, LF, and have a mid 50's PM+ and he is pummeling me.

ZERO_07
07-20-2013, 05:06 PM
From Wiki:

Zephyrus, or just Zephyr (Greek: Ζέφυρος, Zéphuros, "the west wind"), in Latin Favonius, is the Greek god of the west wind. Zephyrus was the west wind and bringer of light spring and early summer breezes. The gentlest of the winds, Zephyrus is known as the fructifying wind, the messenger of spring.

Sakino
07-20-2013, 05:36 PM
I'm no nore sure for fire/ earth, may they make the armor very powerfull, better than the flame summoner one, whit stats something like aegis of the dragon, a fire wind.... Buffing the boss very well. But there are lots of recents fire winds... Powerfull armors like combustion or pyromancer. I dont know, fire earth, or fire air, sure it will be very hard and whit an high attack armor.

gexstar
07-20-2013, 05:40 PM
I'm no nore sure for fire/ earth, may they make the armor very powerfull, better than the flame summoner one, whit stats something like aegis of the dragon, a fire wind.... Buffing the boss very well. But there are lots of recents fire winds... Powerfull armors like combustion or pyromancer. I dont know, fire earth, or fire air, sure it will be very hard and whit an high attack armor.

Pyromancer's is fire/spirit. But yes, they released Combustion only a few weeks ago. I guess its fire/earth.

Dexavus
07-22-2013, 08:42 AM
Zephyr has always meant wind to me so I'd be surprised not to see it as one of the elements, another possibility is wind/earth. Combustion was achieved through independence chests for the most part and not a boss, although we had FSS shroud I can still see gree doing another wind/fire. I mean we did have star song and then eurus without a fire/earth in between so no telling what gree will do. They may keep earth/fire for the week after the 4 dragons.

Sakino
07-23-2013, 03:46 AM
Pyromancer's is fire/spirit. But yes, they released Combustion only a few weeks ago. I guess its fire/earth.
Was meaning flame summoner shroud, sorry.

KTran2013
07-23-2013, 11:21 AM
I'm going to throw my two cents in here and say back up the claim for Fire/Earth.
This way, the last Big Four (Hydra Hunter's) will be part of the lower-levels' in-game teams. This would also make sense in terms of how the last 3 have been 'weak' against the other 3 of the Big Four. And if the pattern is any indication, it went from Right to Left in terms of what could have been smithed.

I'm also really just HOPING, too. This will make Swamp Shaman's a decent armor for this boss! :p

Thanks for such starting such a great thread! OP had some very good guesses! :D

Lieda
07-23-2013, 01:11 PM
Well. I wouldnt be surprised if they would come up with a fire/dark dragon... But it gotta have fire... Really, we ve seen almost anything but fire and earth... And thats like having butter but not bread :P

Or maybe its new element time!!! Lets call it cherrymetal element, it goes in middle of dark and earth ke ke ke!

KayOrzz
07-23-2013, 01:17 PM
What's dark? :p

Musketeer
07-23-2013, 01:26 PM
Well. I wouldnt be surprised if they would come up with a fire/dark dragon... But it gotta have fire... Really, we ve seen almost anything but fire and earth... And thats like having butter but not bread :P

Or maybe its new element time!!! Lets call it cherrymetal element, it goes in middle of dark and earth ke ke ke!


Is Dark an element in the Android version?

I've seen references to magic too, but in the iOS version the elements are air, water, fire, spirit and earth.

KayOrzz
07-23-2013, 01:31 PM
They might have many flavors too. Chocolate chip, bubblegum, raspberry ripple, butterscotch. :D gotta get me paws on one of those android devices!

Lieda
07-23-2013, 01:37 PM
Ahhhhhh dark, spirit, they all look like purple thingies., Buuuut hey, then maybe, why not a proper dark/light element?? We neeed mooooaar elements, and dont forget cherrymetal element!!

Moar elements! Moar!

KayOrzz
07-23-2013, 01:40 PM
I call dibs on bubblegumshadowmetal

Sakino
07-24-2013, 03:43 PM
At this point, a nonsensemetal will be more appropriate. Like your knight being defeated by a flying purple sparke-farting giant two-headed midget.

BileJAR
07-24-2013, 04:19 PM
I really am excited to see the last boss unfold here in under an hour. I've never been this dedicated and excited over an iPhone App. Really, my favorite game on the iPhone. Played for 7 months and still going strong.

Musketeer
07-24-2013, 05:25 PM
(ze)Phyrus, Earth/Fire

Boo Yaa! Nailed it! Dance on your knees!

KTran2013
07-24-2013, 05:36 PM
(ze)Phyrus, Earth/Fire

Boo Yaa! Nailed it! Dance on your knees!

Whoop whoop! I'm glad you were right! I backed you up on it! :)

Sakino
07-24-2013, 05:39 PM
(ze)Phyrus, Earth/Fire

Boo Yaa! Nailed it! Dance on your knees!
Guessed boths! Good job.

Bearsuo
07-24-2013, 06:25 PM
(ze)Phyrus, Earth/Fire

Boo Yaa! Nailed it! Dance on your knees!

Making book, kudos - I came to congrats you on 2/2. Something I noticed is that Zeph's rewards are useless for enhancing Notus's armor, incidentally. Wonder if that was planned to drum up some panic.

<- totally not a panicking bear

Musketeer
07-24-2013, 08:01 PM
Making book, kudos - I came to congrats you on 2/2. Something I noticed is that Zeph's rewards are useless for enhancing Notus's armor, incidentally. Wonder if that was planned to drum up some panic.

<- totally not a panicking bear

Best use of the rewards might be to boost up the regular Phyrus armor ready to craft the +version - assuming you have the space to hang onto them and are sure of getting to 43.

Lord Ash
07-24-2013, 09:41 PM
Best use of the rewards might be to boost up the regular Phyrus armor ready to craft the +version - assuming you have the space to hang onto them and are sure of getting to 43.

Yes agreed especially since there are no quick easy drop sites for uncommon fire or earth mats... Unlike every other uncommon (ie epic sunken carrack for water and zephyr for mystic)

Marco_
07-25-2013, 04:01 AM
Yes agreed especially since there are no quick easy drop sites for uncommon fire or earth mats... Unlike every other uncommon (ie epic sunken carrack for water and zephyr for mystic)
Huh? Relic Ruins: 3 Stone Slabs per farm cycle. More EP per farm cycle than Skeletons Tomb.
And for Stonescale_lvl11 just bounce back and forth between Relic Ruins and Skeletons Tomb.

Musketeer
07-25-2013, 07:14 AM
Huh? Relic Ruins: 3 Stone Slabs per farm cycle

N.B. on Epic Level only it's 3 slabs per cycle. i wish that were true for the other commons.

I get so many stone slabs via the Tomb anyway, I hardly need to bother with the ruins at the moment.

Bearsuo
07-25-2013, 08:19 AM
Best use of the rewards might be to boost up the regular Phyrus armor ready to craft the +version - assuming you have the space to hang onto them and are sure of getting to 43.

I have a huge backlog of earth/various to enhance Phyrus, but I still need to enhance my Notus basic 5 more levels to craft Notus+, which makes me sad as bears just camp salmon when it comes to farming. Wah Lao so sianzzz.

Mores the point, the various tier rewards cycling may also hint for future predictions.

EljayK
07-25-2013, 11:46 AM
I have a huge backlog of earth/various to enhance Phyrus, but I still need to enhance my Notus basic 5 more levels to craft Notus+, which makes me sad as bears just camp salmon when it comes to farming. Wah Lao so sianzzz.

Mores the point, the various tier rewards cycling may also hint for future predictions.

You can usually get a fair guess using the arena rewards. The arena ends the day after epic boss, meaning that this current arena win awards will (almost always) be matching EP enhancers to next weeks boss. Since you'll be crafting next week's armor on the day arena ends.