New LTQ worth it or not?

[calvin98]

Easy Enough, we have the walk though from pelle and the goal in our goal folder. Do you think the new LTQ is worth it?

1. HECK yeah! I'll use all my old on this one

2. No no no, count me out.

[Brahmin]

As far as I'm concerned these stopped being worth it when they pulled the boost units. Not to mention this particular one seems to be extremely energy intensive, more so than usual.

[andymac106]

No. Although it requires less energy to complete all 20 missions compared to the 12 missions last LTQ, the prize for finishing this newer one is only HALF the attack and defense of the last LTQ. Personally I'm going to sit this one out and not ruin my prestaging

[Thump3r]

Calvins a moron. These polls are dumb.

[Zulfiqaar]

This is definetely not worth it, and gets worse as the ltq goes on...heres the maths

1/20 - 249 energy for 140 AD - 0.562 AD per energy
3/20 - 819 energy for 322 AD - 0.393
5/30 - 1634 energy for 558 AD - 0.341
7/20 - 2730 energy for 888 ad - 0.325
9/20 - 4269 energy for 1351 ad - 0.316
11/20 - 6480 energy for 2000 ad - 0.308
13/20 - 9753 energy for 2850 ad - 0.292
15/20 - 14328 energy for 3944 ad - 0.275
17/20 - 21157 energy for 5368 ad - 0.253
20/20 - 39863 energy for 7364 ad - 0.184

make up your own mind on how far to go..keep in mind xp goes up as the missions are more advanced

[Erkensang]

Its not worth any gold but i can finish it with no gold anyway. The unit is not the best but i think i will try for the mirage

[Generik79]

Its not worth any gold but i can finish it with no gold anyway. The unit is not the best but i think i will try for the mirage

Come again?

[Lucid.]

This is definetely not worth it, and gets worse as the ltq goes on...heres the maths

1/20 - 249 energy for 140 AD - 0.562 AD per energy
3/20 - 819 energy for 322 AD - 0.393
5/30 - 1634 energy for 558 AD - 0.341
7/20 - 2730 energy for 888 ad - 0.325
9/20 - 4269 energy for 1351 ad - 0.316
11/20 - 6480 energy for 2000 ad - 0.308
13/20 - 9753 energy for 2850 ad - 0.292
15/20 - 14328 energy for 3944 ad - 0.275
17/20 - 21157 energy for 5368 ad - 0.253
20/20 - 39863 energy for 7364 ad - 0.184

make up your own mind on how far to go..keep in mind xp goes up as the missions are more advanced

Am I missing something here in the math? I can understand why you might do the math with the whole unit a/d, but those gains aren't 100% realized. If your lowest (2000th) attack unit has 30 attack and your lowest usable defense unit has 40 defense, then the first unit really only gives you 65 attack and 5 defense, for a total of 70, not the whole 140. Thus the units have a worse stat/energy ratio in the early stages, 0.2811 AD per energy for stage 1). in essence, the math gets better as the quest progresses up to a certain point, since you're actually gaining a higher percentage of the unit's stats. It'll be different for each person, and I do agree there's a diminishing return for pretty much everyone once you get past stage 9 or 11.

All that being said, units without bonuses and the relatively high every required compared to previous LTQs... I'll still be sitting this one out. Just curious if anyone else does the math differently like I do...

[Jhenry02]

Lucid is correct the percentage gained does increase, but the return on investment from energy stage to stage decreases. That's why they get more difficult the higher stage you are on.

I'd like to see a comparison of stages across multiple ltqs.

IE Poland. Australia
Stage 1 430 energy 156 ad Stage 1 249 energy 140 ad

[Zulfiqaar]

Am I missing something here in the math? I can understand why you might do the math with the whole unit a/d, but those gains aren't 100% realized. If your lowest (2000th) attack unit has 30 attack and your lowest usable defense unit has 40 defense, then the first unit really only gives you 65 attack and 5 defense, for a total of 70, not the whole 140. Thus the units have a worse stat/energy ratio in the early stages, 0.2811 AD per energy for stage 1). in essence, the math gets better as the quest progresses up to a certain point, since you're actually gaining a higher percentage of the unit's stats. It'll be different for each person, and I do agree there's a diminishing return for pretty much everyone once you get past stage 9 or 11.

All that being said, units without bonuses and the relatively high every required compared to previous LTQs... I'll still be sitting this one out. Just curious if anyone else does the math differently like I do...

Lucid i totally agree with you..i should have clarified that this is raw stat gains. i actually did this to find out how far i should go personally, as i.have only 1594 units in total..so any new units are realised fully.

however, the ltq will only get worse ratio if you are stronger, but get progressively better due to the reason you mentioned, raw gains willl only become worse as its a subtraction of replaced units..you can adjust the numbers youself if you like

[lemonhaze]

i will jsut do this one for free like i do all the other LTQ to noraml..i dont spend gold on this stupid evnet wit no boost units..im lvl 250 so they can add 1000exp a hit to me and dont matter..they defo need to fix the game..the more u play the more u get penalzied..and keep in mind b4 gree even took over i was over lvl 200 so i dont know whats it like to score 400-450 a hit in WD or what a easy boss event is..i refuse to make a new act bc sooner or later its gonna be lvl up to then ur back to swaure one..start a new one and miss out on all the LE builds i have which i have them all and most imp my -69 HR..would suck to make a new one and get a bar of health in 18 mins or whatever new ones gets compared to 7min 30 sec for a bar

[chbranch]

But you do get a thousand points (exaggerated of course, but you get the point) per hit during the FvF tourneys so it kinda balances out though.

[lemonhaze]

nice HR & @ lvl250 you have to get all those and more as leveling up doesn't matter at all, but how u score good WD pts when you lvl 250? i scored 200k but it cost me 200$ the min for our team is only 100k but i like to go above and beyond..but i will get more gold next month bc i have spent the 500$ ya lvl up dont matter to me..thats why i did all those defeat rivals to 1000 and it only cost me 650 gold..so raw stats was like 15/14k and boosted i think i got 25-27k..no i dont get nothing over 325..once in a blue moon i might see a 350 but when i do i feel like its a 500wd hit lol

[lemonhaze]

But you do get a thousand points (exaggerated of course, but you get the point) per hit during the FvF tourneys so it kinda balances out though. i dont really do them man..its to boring..i did it this time bc it had attacking rivals at same time so i got into the top 250 which was a pretty good unit..all my top 45 now is all 1000s...gree dont want to give us a breather and esp for those FVF thing i find them super boreing..good thing i am on a awesome team and they do alot of scoreing for me..i jsut scout for them and let the low lvls get to work

[Erkensang]

Come again?
The unit is not worth much but i will try to get it anyways

[dbznumber1]

Ive skipped the last four to five LTQ because the the prizes just arent worth leveling up. The last Ltq I finished is the one were we got the "Puuuzyk Chopppa".

[Twist of Cain]

This will be my first LTQ that I have decided not to partake in. I had originally started and finished most of the LTQ's to normal mode with some prestige. This LTQ is just not worth it. I am almost at burn out anyways.

[lemonhaze]

This will be my first LTQ that I have decided not to partake in. I had originally started and finished most of the LTQ's to normal mode with some prestige. This LTQ is just not worth it. I am almost at burn out anyways. +1 buddy..i will do everone they put out but will not use no gold in it..i save my gold for the attacking rivals,boss and war..the ltq get worse and worse..if they want ppl to actually do one all the way thur then they need to put that +3 alliance attack or a 20% HR unit..they have 5 20% HR tomcats and 5 20% bridge jumpers..not sure of the exact name of them but another HR unit would sure be nice to have

[Mongo]

Depends on what you're saving yourself for, I hate watching a full energy bar go to waste. Can't vote in a poll though, they left out my option "play it hard, smart, and free"

[Thief]

I think the poll is Flawed as it doesn't have enough choices:

As Lemonhaze pointed out if your lvl 250 (i would argue anyone above lvl 225) then XP doesn't really matter for you. You should go get your free units (not to say you spend gold on it but get your free units)

Those under 150 i would never reccomend going for it. Regardless if you can do it for free or not the XP isn't worth it.

After 151 i might consider partaking in some of it but i would still probably quit before the time ran out.

So No gold
Yes if your Very high level
Participate if your high lvl
Don't participate if your under 150.