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Veloster Raptor
07-12-2013, 12:51 PM
I am curious as to what other people do in Arenas. I recently finished in the 6th ribbon. I finished 211X which is the best I have placed. I have my AA 40/50 which is carrying me through my battles. I have noticed that sometimes people on win steaks are the basic gear equipped when I was fighting them. Is this to get a revenge win?

What are your tips to win in Arena? I wanted to make a separate thread so it doesn't get buried in the ask anything thread.

My usual strat is to put my best armor first with a random knight, a strong knight with the best defense and then my knight in my second or third best gear (In defensive stats). That has been working well for me. Any tips or tricks?

Bryanv2
07-12-2013, 01:07 PM
Yea I could use some tips also, though I think I know most of them.

Is your strongest armor AA lvl 40/50? Hm. I haven't been below rank 3000# I believe and I have an AA+ / Living flame + maxed out and a boiler armor level 60.

What I have been doing for the past 2 tournaments is wait until about day 2/3, then start playing. What that does for me is, I can get 8/8 double downs for free since I'll start fighting ranks 60,000+'s.

That however doesn't get me that high, but I figure I won't get below 3000/2000 anyways.

Maybe I should try playing from the beginning?

Tips:

- I look for title names. Usually I fight people with ''Rune knight'' since its the default title. Usually a higher level player would have changed his title
- I look for Winstreaks, if its too high I usuallty try to avoid it.

EljayK
07-12-2013, 01:28 PM
I have noticed that sometimes people on win steaks are the basic gear equipped when I was fighting them. Is this to get a revenge win?

This is exactly why. It's less reliable in the beginning of the tournament I've found, but by day 3 it's usually pretty solid.




What I have been doing for the past 2 tournaments is wait until about day 2/3, then start playing. What that does for me is, I can get 8/8 double downs for free since I'll start fighting ranks 60,000+'s.

That however doesn't get me that high, but I figure I won't get below 3000/2000 anyways.

Maybe I should try playing from the beginning?

Mathematically, if you're paying attention to the points and your usage of them more often, it is more beneficial to never double down. However, your strategy isn't a bad one if you don't want to check your game every 50 minutes.

I used to wait a few days and then get my 8/8s. It was nice to see myself rise in the rankings so fast. Now I start from the beginning, and I've moved up about 3 or four ribbons with mostly the same armor. Get revenge wins, and use double down sparingly. Try not to double down after waiting for a period. If you wait too long, (like after expending 5 energy), you will end up against people with the higher "assumed" rank of yourself, counting your double down in. Try using double down and cancelling it when you run out of energy, so you don't get an increased risk of a dangerous opponent later.

Veloster Raptor
07-12-2013, 01:34 PM
Yea I could use some tips also, though I think I know most of them.

Is your strongest armor AA lvl 40/50? Hm. I haven't been below rank 3000# I believe and I have an AA+ / Living flame + maxed out and a boiler armor level 60.

What I have been doing for the past 2 tournaments is wait until about day 2/3, then start playing. What that does for me is, I can get 8/8 double downs for free since I'll start fighting ranks 60,000+'s.

That however doesn't get me that high, but I figure I won't get below 3000/2000 anyways.

Maybe I should try playing from the beginning?

Tips:

- I look for title names. Usually I fight people with ''Rune knight'' since its the default title. Usually a higher level player would have changed his title
- I look for Winstreaks, if its too high I usuallty try to avoid it.

You would be surprised at the win streaks. I have faced someone who has in the mid 20's. I slapped him/her so hard it was crazy. I think it it was a lower level player with high leveled gear.

My armor lineup is AA+ 41/50, CA+ 20/50 SG 12/70

Bryanv2
07-12-2013, 04:21 PM
Yea true. I've fought some 30+ win streak people that were really easy to beat.

I guess I should try to play from the beginning and not use double downs further/deeper down. Keep getting this damn error code 17 now xD

JashGanz
07-12-2013, 04:38 PM
Personally i try to have my champion/strongest knight in the back, w/ best armor,to ensure that he gets a special attack, otherwise i feel that he is taking unnecessary damage without dishing out his best.

Also sometimes that winning streak is misleading, others not so much personally i fought someone on a 86 win streak and they only had 1 star and 2 star armor, and not close to maxed out, killed all with 1 knight. Other times i have fought someone on a 10 win streak and the opposite happened to me :/ i guess it just depends on your luck.

Lieda
07-12-2013, 04:41 PM
Get 100 weaker friends, beat them everyday.... I still think this should be removed... Ive barely fought at arena today, had a 8 double down because i had 0 pta and everybody was too weak... But only by beating friends i simply got myself from 12.000 to 118. 1:30hours of fighting friends, its a pain and a effing boredom

Roark
07-12-2013, 04:51 PM
hour and a half? I have nearly 30 seconds of lag between fights, and over a minute to load the Battle tab

android friend fighting is brutal

tredadda
07-12-2013, 05:14 PM
If I am going to double down, I spend a little more time on it. I will look at who is available to fight and then find them on the leaderboard and check out their profile. If they are way above me in level then I avoid them, if not I will fight them. It helps me out a lot. But again I only do it when I have time to search.

KayOrzz
07-12-2013, 05:39 PM
i did ........
used these armors : ..... , ...... , .......
arranged my knights this way : .... , ..... , ......
got to bronze on my 2nd week of playing and never looked back
:rolleyes:

Musketeer
07-12-2013, 07:58 PM
If I am going to double down, I spend a little more time on it. I will look at who is available to fight and then find them on the leaderboard and check out their profile. If they are way above me in level then I avoid them, if not I will fight them. It helps me out a lot. But again I only do it when I have time to search.

Reach level 100 and wear maxed legendary armor. If you are level 100 you've got to be pretty useless to lose to anyone level 95 or below. Put your main knight in 2nd or 3rd place, to ensure they get in at least 1 special hit.

Rotate your elements, so for example you don't have fire in all three armors. It tells you this after every loss, yet I constantly come across people who fail to have rotating elements.

As tredadda says, use double down but check your opponents, especially for the last couple. It's maddening to lose after a 7 win double down. If there's no suitable opponent, wait for the page to refresh. It's rare I can't find someone I can beat when I bother looking.

I've twice run up a 60+ winning streak, the second time without bothering to check my opponents profiles, and I still have a knight in HH+. When I can get him into a level 70 armor I expect to do better.

overcire
07-12-2013, 09:10 PM
hour and a half? I have nearly 30 seconds of lag between fights, and over a minute to load the Battle tab

android friend fighting is brutal
Nexus 4 here. I do not have Lagg. I think you said earlier you were on an sg3. I am surprised that there is a difference. Crappy sd card perhaps?

Marco_
07-13-2013, 02:34 AM
Android Arena finally seems to be getting a bit tougher.
Last 2 weeks I got ribbon 2 and 1 without much effort using low level Monk's Vestments and Rageborne Raiment plus a maxed AA+. Now I've switched over to 3 of the big 4; 2 of them still leveling and I'm seeing more good (instead of just pretty) armors on opponents.
Shortly hit the top 100 last night, woke up to 25 extra friend requests... How do you guy deal with those? Just ignore them? (for lack of search function, looking them up on the tournament ranking to see which of them you want is just about impossible work...)

Not really getting much lag, but I'm playing on an Asus Transformer Infinity tablet... ;)

KTran2013
07-13-2013, 12:12 PM
Android Arena finally seems to be getting a bit tougher.
Last 2 weeks I got ribbon 2 and 1 without much effort using low level Monk's Vestments and Rageborne Raiment plus a maxed AA+. Now I've switched over to 3 of the big 4; 2 of them still leveling and I'm seeing more good (instead of just pretty) armors on opponents.
Shortly hit the top 100 last night, woke up to 25 extra friend requests... How do you guy deal with those? Just ignore them? (for lack of search function, looking them up on the tournament ranking to see which of them you want is just about impossible work...)

Not really getting much lag, but I'm playing on an Asus Transformer Infinity tablet... ;)

Not sure if this is a suggestion or anything, but I find it kind of helpful to add the people regardless of who they are, fight them, and see if I can beat them. If I can't beat them, I hold on to them and see how they progress every day I play after battling them again. I guess you can call it a test of strength. This also kind of gives you a (small) indication of how they're leveling their armors (combined with what level they are).
This is a pretty time-consuming process if you think about it, but I've culled the weak friends and find that the friends I have now are the good ones who are constantly improving. After a few days/battles through PvP, I actually start to delete the lower level people who I have positive winning records against. Say, 4-3 after 7 days (after having lost 3 in a row/first three battles or whatever).
Knowing where to start culling is important, too. As someone who is continuing to lvl, I will tend to only want higher-leveled people and I start culling from there. Maybe around 60 and down.

Lastly, it gives you a few tournament points each time you battle, so that never hurts.
Good luck! :]

overcire
07-13-2013, 12:36 PM
Similar plan, but shorter. I friend people and then ditch them if the main is wearing less than the big 4. Monks vestments? You do not need friends help, just stick around and play for another week.

Android is heating up though. There are a lot of people in the arena who give me trouble, and a lot of people who work pretty hard to get points. I have a hard time staying top 50 winning every battle, doubling down every battle. The epic is another story, top 5 are just hackers.

KTran2013
07-13-2013, 12:41 PM
Similar plan, but shorter. I friend people and then ditch them if the main is wearing less than the big 4. Monks vestments? You do not need friends help, just stick around and play for another week.

Android is heating up though. There are a lot of people in the arena who give me trouble, and a lot of people who work pretty hard to get points. I have a hard time staying top 50 winning every battle, doubling down every battle. The epic is another story, top 5 are just hackers.

Are you THE Cire? Like, my in-game friend, Cire? If so, that's pretty cooooool. :D

Marco_
07-13-2013, 04:19 PM
It's just so much work, the friends list...
After the end of the previous tournament, I removed 25+ people from my friend list, which allowed the outstanding friend requests to go down to 8, now it's already up to 40 again! :(

I now decided to make a text file and split the friends into:

- keep (high level and/or good/special armors)
- maybe (high stats for their level in the "hire friends" screen)
- newbies (giving a bit back to those level 20 and below...)
- being evaluated (the new batch of friends I just added; giving them 2-3 days to prove themselves)



IGN: Lady Nighty Knight
Lvl 90+ Nighty-Night.

You're level 94. My second highest friend after Aradan. :)


Similar plan, but shorter. I friend people and then ditch them if the main is wearing less than the big 4. Monks vestments? You do not need friends help, just stick around and play for another week.
Heh, I might have sent you a friend request when I was still doing my "LOL, why am I top 150 arena with just a lvl17 Monk's, lvl13 Rageborne and maxed AA+? This is just absurd!" thing.
Intentionally hiding your name behind those purple lion manes? ;)
Currently #128 with a maxed AA+, maxed CA+ and a LF+ . Am I worthy of friending now? ;)
edit: make that #80 after battling through my friend list for 30 minutes...

I'm totally sick of seeing that Armor of Eurus constantly in arena and frien battles...

Aradan
07-13-2013, 04:20 PM
my best advice. Do NOT fight me. I don't participate in arena so im always very low on the boards so high chance i will pop up in your list. aside from that don't fight spock either aha.

Marco_
07-13-2013, 04:36 PM
aside from that don't fight spock either aha.
Too late. I think he 4-shot my 3 knights. (and IIRC so did Punishment)

MadPhoneBashing
07-13-2013, 04:42 PM
Top player on android probably hacks but not I started season at 1112 wins and 114 loses(actually used gems to get my 500+ wins so far to actually reach 20500 points with double downs1600+wins now) only to stop after seeing krosa with the same win and loss ratio from last season get 21500 points instantly. I realized even if he battled his friends list there's just no way and everytime I would get points he gets more to match but his arena wins never changes so w/e I'm done chasing for the black medal achievement. To update I got to 23000 points yesturday and now he's at 32000 points with the same 256 wins and 10 loses......

MadPhoneBashing
07-13-2013, 04:58 PM
Btw big shout out to cire and lady thank you for friending when I was lvl 50 or something spent tons cash to get where I' am but ur accounts plus also roark's and punishment's knights motivated me so much to be level 100 after losing so badly before.

Vader

Issaquah
07-13-2013, 05:41 PM
Depends on how much time u want to put in. Scouting will tell you who u can beat and who to avoid. Patience will the. Let you get 8/8 streaks to maximize points. For this under level 100, defeating those with higher levels gives great points, especially when you get to 7 or 8.

As for those with base armors, it is to get easy revenge wins. I've found it helpful if not guaranteed.

KTran2013
07-13-2013, 08:28 PM
Btw big shout out to cire and lady thank you for friending when I was lvl 50 or something spent tons cash to get where I' am but ur accounts plus also roark's and punishment's knights motivated me so much to be level 100 after losing so badly before.

Vader

You're welcome! I was kind of blown away by how fast you were progressing! Glad to have you as a friend! :3

I'm almost 100.. So close I can taste it. Maybe a day or two left. I'm not as fast as you :D

KTran2013
07-13-2013, 08:35 PM
You're level 94. My second highest friend after Aradan. :)




Awesome! Not to be smug, but you barely made the list! :p
Like I said in my comment, I keep the people who are high-leveled and try to keep track (within reason) of their progress. I'll try to remember you!

Marco_
07-13-2013, 11:48 PM
Get 100 weaker friends, beat them everyday....
Just thought about it a bit...
3 friend battle wins is equal to an arena shutdown, 3 friend battle losses is more than an arena loss.
At my level (68), that's about 400-500 arena points per day, which is probably equal to about
8-10 "5 arena energy" sessions without double downs in the arena (so I guess that's at least 30% of my daily arena points!).


Rotate your elements, so for example you don't have fire in all three armors. It tells you this after every loss, yet I constantly come across people who fail to have rotating elements.
I've arranged my knights so 1 and 2 don't share any elements and neither do 2 and 3.


Captain Obvious arena tip: if you want to end up high in the rankings, prioritize maxing those arena armors!
(for me leveling my arena LF+ has been competing for resources with leveling an extra CA+ for the epic boss and saving up for the 1 mil expansion... :-| )

MadPhoneBashing
07-15-2013, 12:19 AM
Woot looks like the wise one responded to my inquiry to the legitness of krosa...he was number one in arena and the epic boss event and he was doing this after one week of play? Yea I've spent atleast $2000.00 on my account (yea I'm crazy but go hard or go home) and no way I can possibly achieve the stats he was doing. But anywho people should just remember to pm wise one about hackers who appear to be super overpowered. Albert I could careless until he starts appearing in the top spots.

namdrazil
07-15-2013, 12:38 AM
it would appear he cleaned up 2-3 people since i moved from 13 to 11 without gaining any points

paganizer
07-15-2013, 03:07 AM
What are the "arena" armors? The best legendary+ or? Care to list them ? :)

Marco_
07-15-2013, 03:40 AM
What are the "arena" armors? The best legendary+ or? Care to list them ? :)
Well, on Android, 3 of the "big four" now gets me to about rank 100, but if I see my opponent for ex. having a Jian, Jackalope or Aegis, I just know my knights will be taken out in 6 strikes or less...

paganizer
07-15-2013, 04:17 AM
would you rank the storm sorc+ as arena armor?

Bryanv2
07-15-2013, 09:11 AM
You guys are getting such high ranks Dx. I'm currently about 1600 though and I haven't used friends yet. I think I can finish <2000 but I doubt I;'ll do much better than that this tournament.

The prizes are also not super worth it until like rib1/2.

Scouting is also something I can't do. Usually in the Arena my opponents have at least 300 more placement spots on me. Itll take way to long to scroll through all that. It updates slow

Marco_
07-15-2013, 10:42 AM
@Bryanv2: if you're playing on iOS, that may be the difference.
On Android it "only" lists 126288 people on the arena leaderboard, while I think I've read 3 times as much listed here on the forum for iOS.

Arena list of people to pick from is narrowing down again from 10 to 4 right now for me; I guess it just wants me to face (my) Punishment... ;)

overcire
07-15-2013, 06:32 PM
I will be rocking air and fire boost armour for the next 12 hours. 1 att, 1 def. Just a bonus for you forum goers. Also:music festival rocked and I am going to have a good time trying to be bronze in arena. Should beat boss 43 in 12 hours though.

Can't wait for guilds.

Roark
07-15-2013, 06:40 PM
nice cire, thanks for the head's up hehe, I just so happen to be battling my friendslist for an extra 600 points or so

Bryanv2
07-15-2013, 07:06 PM
nice cire, thanks for the head's up hehe, I just so happen to be battling my friendslist for an extra 600 points or so

Yea I gotta get on this. Battling your friends can give you a huge boost.

Im currently 1400, my goal is the 1000-1500 reward for this event. (Whats that armor you get anyways? (Not crius))
Thinking about keeping this point farming up for another 3 days is tiring though lol

Roark
07-15-2013, 07:12 PM
yeah, I can never stand to do this more than twice an event, even today I paced myself and battled every 10th friend to mark some progress

than I went back and fought 10-30 at a time here and there. I generally save my higher friends for when they clog up my arena list with people I can't defeat. I fight them on friend list and then they go away on arena list

not sure on that armor, some DPC kind

overcire
07-15-2013, 09:31 PM
monstrous garb? I feel bad because I asked last time I saw it and I cannot remember now :P but I can tell you why: it had ****e stats, indeed all prizes like that are good for cheap EP. But its only cheap if you are not spending too much time, any gems, or selling your soul (looking at you -cheaters of the android platform)

namdrazil
07-16-2013, 12:14 AM
it is the monstrous garb. sadly only good for ep.

Marco_
07-16-2013, 01:13 AM
Not that I'll get anywhere near them, but to add the info to the wiki: what are the black and gold medal armors for this tournament?

(sooo, frustrating/stressful constantly hovering around that rank 100 mark (75% of the time above, 25% below...)

ZERO_07
07-16-2013, 02:42 AM
I honestly don't consider Arena a complete waste of time like the others, especially if you're new, it's a great way to get Armors for EP and some Gems and Fusion Stones. Currently in the top 600's hoping to get into the 500+ so I can get a 2nd garb for more EP.

Veloster Raptor
07-18-2013, 12:54 PM
I am poised to finish my best ranking so far. I have LF+ 18, AA+ 50, and CA+ 29 (main).

Is this a good setup? I win more matches than I lose, but sometimes I get stomped. I am lvl 52, almost 53.

Unresolved
07-18-2013, 12:59 PM
I am poised to finish my best ranking so far. I have LF+ 18, AA+ 50, and CA+ 29 (main).

Is this a good setup? I win more matches than I lose, but sometimes I get stomped. I am lvl 52, almost 53.

I found that Crius, HH, AA worked very well in the Arena for me. It counters Jian extremely well, and that's very common in the arena.

Marco_
07-18-2013, 01:53 PM
I found that Crius, HH, AA worked very well in the Arena for me. It counters Jian extremely well, and that's very common in the arena.
Not so common on Android. I doubt there are more than 10 in the top 100 there.
I myself picked (and leveled) LF+ over HH+ because it doesn't share any elements with Crius and AA, so if an enemy armor is strong against my first armor, there's a decent chance it will be weak against the LF+ in 2nd place. Same for from position 2 to 3. 93rd right now on Android and with my whole friend battle list unlocking within the next 2 hours, I should have enough points to stay in the top 100.

Unresolved
07-18-2013, 01:55 PM
Not so common on Android. I doubt there are more than 10 in the top 100 there.
I myself picked (and leveled) LF+ over HH+ because it doesn't share any elements with Crius and AA, so if an enemy armor is strong against my first armor, there's a decent chance it will be weak against the LF+ in 2nd place. Same for from position 2 to 3. 93rd right now on Android and with my whole friend battle list unlocking within the next 2 hours, I should have enough points to stay in the top 100.

Ah, didn't see android there :p. Jian is everywhere on iOS, so LF is just really bad to use because of that.

Bryanv2
07-18-2013, 03:51 PM
Well I should be about rank 1050-1100 before the event ends. Unfortunately can't get 1000 with the time remaining so eh. It wasn't that hard though I want those glorious rib 1 + rewards eventually