[Discuss] Ancient Dragons and the Black Kaleidoscopic Raiment

[Gem Crusher]

damage for last boss was high. I did more damage than the week before and I was not sure if I was going to be top 25. hit 43 easy, no gems (thanks to aradan and spock coming in twice for level 43 :)

How can you be at level 43 now alteady, without spending any gems? I've got my fair share of random energy drops, and I'm at level 23 now without using more than two knights on any level.. I just don't understand how people do it so fast without spending any gems..
Even if I used only one knight all the time I would probably be only at level ~35. But that's just not possible for me

[Unresolved]

How can you be at level 43 now alteady, without spending any gems? I've got my fair share of random energy drops, and I'm at level 23 now without using more than two knights on any level.. I just don't understand how people do it so fast without spending any gems..
Even if I used only one knight all the time I would probably be only at level ~35. But that's just not possible for me

I believe overcire was talking about Boreas, not Notus.

[josesmith]

I think beyond the bkal+. Gree will release new armors with skill.

[KayOrzz]

43 is easy peasy. I get it on 3rd day without gems. Just some planning, efficient energy usage and strategizing. And after that I can concentrate on real life stuff and just stroll toward 60.

[issackiu]

that's for the gems fighter to summon the ancient dragon to get the enough materials

[Papa3G]

Beating epic boss up to level 43 is still very very tough for me.
I'm level 125 n have strong armor but I still have to spend gems to get + armor..bah!

[gexstar]

When will the rewards be given out ? After the 5th week or once you got all armors ?

I accidentally used my Eurus regular for enhancing, i guess im screwed now in terms of the wings ?

[Roark]

if you have all + armors it counts as having had the regulars, not sure if the armor is received after making all the +versiosn or if everyone waits til the end of the week

the latter seems more likely though, in my opinion

[Roark]

in chance chests, hmm

[Lieda]

When will the rewards be given out ? After the 5th week or once you got all armors ?

I accidentally used my Eurus regular for enhancing, i guess im screwed now in terms of the wings ?

Its ok using regulars for enhancing, wise one stated that plus versions qualifies to both rewards. I just hope ww get the rewards instantly after the crafting requirement.

[BileJAR]

I don't mind spending 5 dollars for some backup gems for SA/Summoning Stone. Also, I have a question, are we all getting our Bkal+ At the end of the 'grace period' on August 13? Or will we be able to craft the Bkal+ as soon as the last Epic Boss is gone?

[KayOrzz]

you don't craft the bk

[Will_Treaty]

Wait a second. I'm slightly off topic but curious, or insanely stupid.

You get Bkal from DPC. But how do you get the Bkal+ not from the ancient dragons?

[Roark]

also DPC8910

[Will_Treaty]

So u upgrade it to the X level to get plus version. And then u hope ur lucky and get another one which should be a plus.

Correct?

[Unresolved]

So u upgrade it to the X level to get plus version. And then u hope ur lucky and get another one which should be a plus.

Correct?

No, the BK from this event will be +, whether you have a regular BK or not. If you get it from DPC, it is random whether or not it is + or regular.

[deathexe]

So u upgrade it to the X level to get plus version. And then u hope ur lucky and get another one which should be a plus.

Correct?

No, you can get the + version anytime from the dpc.

[BileJAR]

you don't craft the bk

I know you don't. I meant get, not craft.

[Alexa]

I don't mind spending 5 dollars for some backup gems for SA/Summoning Stone. Also, I have a question, are we all getting our Bkal+ At the end of the 'grace period' on August 13? Or will we be able to craft the Bkal+ as soon as the last Epic Boss is gone?

It's 1 week after the last ancient dragon so that's on August 7th. I'm guessing players will either get it at that day around new boss time or we get it once we have all four in our inventory.

[Spongie]

I am missing the first 1 of the armors. So I hope the gem discount will be there next week so I can summon him cheap to
get the armor anyway. Or else I have to spent alot more to get it...

[zxczxczxc]

wow + version for the Bkal+ WTF...i just started to play at the 2nd ancient dragon boss...sso mean ihave miss out the 1st ancient....so hard to get those +version i guess...sadness

[Musketeer]

Just checked my stocks of Earth, Fire & Snakeskin materials.

To reach level 35 on the regular Phyrus requires 1660ep.

I have enough common and snakeskin materials in stock, plus already made sets of common & snakeskin to reach 1640ep, but will receive 10 more HH+ (240 ep) from level 35 tonight before I could possibly craft everything, even using 4 armorsmiths.

The holdup this time is getting to level 43. As soon as I do that I'll be ready to craft Phyrus+, and Notus+ alongside it.

If the deadline were the time Phyrus vanishes, as we had originally worried, then it would be extremely close and I might be wakign up deliberately during the night to get my kills in.

With the extra week I'll do it with 6 days and several hours to spare.

[shukai84]

i seriously dunoe what is the use for the bk+ when there is a range of epic amrs coming out LOL

[Unresolved]

i seriously dunoe what is the use for the bk+ when there is a range of epic amrs coming out LOL

Because the epic armors will be very rare and will take a long time to max? Plus, BK+ is very versatile. You can plug it into any situation and it will work above average.

[Maximous2.0]

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With the extra week I'll do it with 6 days and several hours to spare.
Me too. I can kind of sit back and coast through as I have already made the first three plus versions. I'm sitting at 38 right now with over a week and a half to craft the plus. The regular phyrus is at 25 :)

[shukai84]

Because the epic armors will be very rare and will take a long time to max? Plus, BK+ is very versatile. You can plug it into any situation and it will work above average.

yeah, i suppose but the stats is very low for bk+...

[Unresolved]

yeah, i suppose but the stats is very low for bk+...

Nothing will hit it for extra damage either. BK(not sure if + or regular) in the Arena can take out my maxed Eurus and part of my maxed Boreas.

[KayOrzz]

Mostly regular BKs in arena now judging by stats

[Unresolved]

Mostly regular BKs in arena now judging by stats
Yeah true. Kind of scary how much damage a regular BK can do to boss armors. Until I get my own BK+, I avoid those players in the Arena like the plague.

[Marco_]

Because the epic armors will be very rare and will take a long time to max?
Ah, but BKal is unmatched elements for any enhancements, so BKal also takes a long time to max... ;)

[Jin15]

So are we sure that we have 1 more week after the last dragon to finish with crafting + version

[Lieda]

I finished everything where are myyyy wiings!!!!!!!!!!!?

Lol

[KnDSynergy]

They call me mr bombastic

[deathexe]

They call me mr bombastic

Please don't post nonsense just to get your post count up.

[Papa3G]

Agree...please don't waste the post..

I'm also worry that we get nothing when we craft the + version after the 4th boss event is ended.
Wise one can guaranteed? Otherwise our effort will be useless...
I finished craft the + 3rd one n still waiting the normal 4th one to be finished before crafting + version.
And it will not finish as I only have 2 days instead. Otherwise the gems will speak!

[Spongie]

As far as I know you have 1 week after the last dragon dissappear to craft your armors.

[Lieda]

You know.... Those wings looks like phyrus wings.... Im. Quite sure they are going to look stupid... -_-

So much work, i hope im wrong

[QuantumP 86]

I'd bet that they didn't run the code yet that says "If ALL Dragon+ armors" then Reward BK+. I would bet they will run it when the current boss event ends and you will receive your BK+ at that time.

[Jin15]

i think i will speed up with my hardwork gems i dont think we will have 1 week after the last dragon i think it will be till the end of the event

[KayOrzz]

i think i will speed up with my hardwork gems i dont think we will have 1 week after the last dragon i think it will be till the end of the event

Good for ya. Two thumbs up. Woohoo. Sweet Wootsauce.

[Spongie]

If you just look at the first page it says you have a week extra after the last dragon is gone.. just make sure you have all the armors ready by then

[Lieda]

Worried people could just screenshot it to argue after the 4th dragon is gone, but its quite clear, you have one week afterwards to get the armors together, including plus versions.

[Unresolved]

Ah, but BKal is unmatched elements for any enhancements, so BKal also takes a long time to max... ;)

Not like the Moontide. I'll probably max BK+ in 4 days. If Moontide will cost 10,000 EP like I think it might, it would take me twice as long to enhance it. Maybe more depending on the gold costs.

[Lieda]

While moontide is so ugly...ill not even try to get it,,, i tought these new designs since deva would mark a new era of armor looks... I was wrong...

For me this moontide looks like a bad mixup of a mystic armor and a guardian bg.

Terriugly ;(

[overcire]

agreed. and that spankle. . .

I like minimalist armour. I would love a rouge that got lighter and less encumbered per metamorphosis. I would appreciate someone with a ranged weapon. And mounts could definitely be a more expensive 'cape'

[XBDMRRFPN]

Attention Knights!

Can you defeat all 4 Ancient Dragons and collect all 4 Ancient Dragon+ armors? If you're up for the challenge, you'll be rewarded with the strongest armor to date!


Craft and KEEP all four dragon armors to earn unique and powerful rewards
4 Regular Armors: To earn the New ANCIENT DRAGON WINGS!
4 Plus Versions: To earn the BLACK KALEIDOSCOPIC RAIMENT+
Hurry to earn these free rewards before time runs out!
Having the + Version will qualify you for both rewards
*Remember all ancient dragon armor must remain in your inventory until the redemption period.
You have until a week after the end of the 4th dragon to craft any/all of the 4 armors to qualify for the reward. Meaning the first armor set will have to be complete by the end of the grace period after the fourth dragon to qualify.



http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/9592bc76-d99f-47d8-829d-f69f8f732bd7_zps0bc1ffb1.jpg?t=1373501966

can I ask a simple question?
What are the wings and cape for?
They seems to be useless

[deathexe]

can I ask a simple question?
What are the wings and cape for?
They seems to be useless

It's for looks only.

[XBDMRRFPN]

It's for looks only.

waste of gems and therefore of real money so

[deathexe]

waste of gems and therefore of real money so

In this case the wings can be gotten through gameplay, though crafting non plus boss armors are a waste if you can't get the +version. Not a waste of gems.

You can get other capes for gold too, but some capes are exclusively gems only.

[XBDMRRFPN]

In this case the wings can be gotten through gameplay, though crafting non plus boss armors are a waste if you can't get the +version. Not a waste of gems.

You can get other capes for gold too, but some capes are exclusively gems only.
I meant in general
I couldn't get the Eurus because I didn't beat it at level 15, I was still too weak and didn't know about the big4 and possibility to hire friends yet (it wasn't that clear to me)

[Musketeer]

I meant in general
I couldn't get the Eurus because I didn't beat it at level 15, I was still too weak and didn't know about the big4 and possibility to hire friends yet (it wasn't that clear to me)

In gneral I agree the capes and wings are a waste of resources. Some look OK, especially the cheap ones, but most just seem to be there to say "Look at me, I've got more money than sense".

The wings, being achieveable only through game play (at present), will be a badge of honor, should people choose to wear them.

[Marquis]

Ok, first if all, crafting at the armor takes (3) days which takes so long before you could start leveling it up. Second, with the boss stats elevated, we would need to counter that, thus making another armor to level up for it which is also time consuming. Lastly, farming takes a long time and is very very time consuming it would be soo much helpful for all players if we get the twice drop again. I am an active player and has the oppurtunity to play when I can but it is still impossible for us to obtain this armor. I know it suppose to be hard to obtain since its the most powerful armor in the game but at least give us a break.




Upgrade your armorsmith dude, u wont have that problem

[Maximous2.0]

When in August do we get the black kale +? Do you think it'll be next Wednesday or earlier?

[Roark]

I had been hoping it meant anytime in August at all, however since someone could conceivably use gems to rush their armor in 2 hours from now and it's not August for another 6 hours, I'm thinking the earlier "one week after the 4 week event ends" probably is not only the maximum amount of time to make all the armors in order to receive rewards, but most likely all the rewards are issued at the same time, similar to normal events rewards

[Maximous2.0]

I had been hoping it meant anytime in August at all, however since someone could conceivably use gems to rush their armor in 2 hours from now and it's not August for another 6 hours, I'm thinking the earlier "one week after the 4 week event ends" probably is not only the maximum amount of time to make all the armors in order to receive rewards, but most likely all the rewards are issued at the same time, similar to normal events rewards
I just took another look at the wise ones op and there is a redemption period, so I guess I'm asking when do you think the redemption period will start. So the ones that have it now can pick it up and the ones that need to finish it still have until next Wednesday.

[Roark]

oh that's pretty cool then, maybe it's August somewhere already

[The Wise One]

When in August do we get the black kale +? Do you think it'll be next Wednesday or earlier?

Enter in the grace period, after the grace period the rewards will be distributed at the same time.

[BileJAR]

Wow really? So they're handing out the BK's. Next Wednesday? But UGH.

[BileJAR]

Well that sucks, can't enjoy it before I go back to school. Gotta give them out the 2nd day.

[Genocide788]

Quit complaining people. A Bkal+ and yet the complaints.
They need time to collate all the data and sort things out. Its easier said than done. However i have a feeling that not everything will go as smoothly as it would appear to.

[Maximous2.0]

Enter in the grace period, after the grace period the rewards will be distributed at the same time.

Thank you for the quick reply!

[BileJAR]

Quit complaining people. A Bkal+ and yet the complaints.
They need time to collate all the data and sort things out. Its easier said than done. However i have a feeling that not everything will go as smoothly as it would appear to.

I'm pretty sure I have the right to complain or be upset.

[Dexavus]

Considering they said there would be a 1 week grace period before awards were given, no you don't have any reason to be angry. You'll get them when the banner said you'll get them, just like everyone else.

[Genocide788]

I'm pretty sure I have the right to complain or be upset.
Sure, complain all you want. It's this sort of attitude that makes customer service a pain in the behind. Gree can cancel the whole event and not give out bkal + if they wish and we really can't do anything about it. Every company reserves the right to amend their T&Cs without any prior notice.
Look, im not trying to be an *** or to flame anyone but it isn't really that hard to be a little patient and appreciate that we got something for free by investing some effort while others spent hundreds to even stand a chance to get one right?

[deathexe]

**** genocide788 are u serious im sure u wont get bk from this even so why u are here?! U try act like someone smart for real ?!

If I'm not wrong genocide's eligible for the bkal+, same for me. There isn't much of a reason to complain unless it's AFTER the grace period and we haven't gotten the bkal+. It would make more sense for all the bkal+ to be given out at the same time at the end of the grace period instead of one at a time for different player.

[Thatzme]

Gree already stated beforehand there'll be a grace period after the 4th boss so I dunnoe why some of u are still upset abt it not coming sooner. Geno is right to say they have the right to withhold this incentive, and the wait is due to collation etc . So u've already fulfilled the necessary conditions to earn it over the past 4 weeks, what's the harm in waiting for a week or so.

No one is denying anyone the right to complain, we've had a hell of a 4 weeks, so chill, go out in the sun and just wait for ur bkal+ to come delivered to u.

Divine scar, ur comments however is non-constructive, no need to lash out at Geno's remarks cos he is not trying to flame anyone.

[Thatzme]

You have until a week after the end of the 4th dragon to craft any/all of the 4 armors to qualify for the reward. Meaning the first armor set will have to be complete by the end of the grace period after the fourth dragon to qualify.

If u had read this carefully, it is safe to assume that the bkal+ reward will most probably come in after the one week grace period. It did not read, "to receive the reward." It said to qualify for the reward - it's just like u qualify for a lucky draw, the draw doesn't happen straightaway but at another appointed time.

Kudos to Wise One for crafting the sentence correctly to avoid confusion, but ofc there are some people who either skimmed through and missed out this detail, or failed to comprehend the meaning behind the words used.

Ignorance can be cured, but not stupidity.

[Genocide788]

**** genocide788 are u serious im sure u wont get bk from this even so why u are here?! U try act like someone smart for real ?!
Uhhhhhh, I am eligible. Just cause im below 100 doesn't mean i'm a walkover. I'm not trying to act smart, What i stated is a fact.

[deathexe]

Why u guys even protect gree they only wanna our cash damn also 4 weeks event for PHONE Game its to much and next one week to gain reward they cant be serious this is f phone game where is thinking in doing things like that.

We're just stating things as it is. It's not as if this grace period was a last minute thing. GREE also never said anything about giving the bkal+ the moment you complete the whole set. Furthermore, this event is completely optional, and it was the choice of the players to participate in this. I don't see what's wrong, considering this is the bkal+ we're talking
About.

[Thatzme]

Why u guys even protect gree they only wanna our cash damn also 4 weeks event for PHONE Game its to much and next one week to gain reward they cant be serious this is f phone game where is thinking in doing things like that.

U obviously have not played other ios mmo games with a sound business model. U also obviously have no idea how big the phone gaming industry has become and the revenues generated. It has become serious business and in some ways taken over the pc and console gaming because of the mobility and accessibility factor.

We r not protecting Gree, i just wanted to introduce reality to you. So sober up, and start realising Gree does not care whether u get the bkal+ or not. Just be thankful they are giving it to you.

[deathexe]

. Also didnt see u are member of rainbow guild so u are gem spender only this way u can do something :p

That's not true also, it's very much possible for a level 90+ to get the 4 armors if he had good friends and already decent armors beforehand.

[Thatzme]

. Also didnt see u are member of rainbow guild so u are gem spender only this way u can do something :p

Once again, I say, stupidity cannot be cured.

[Thatzme]

heh yea whatever im gonna say im wrong right :!

That's because whatever you've said are just inflammatory comments and sweeping accusations. If you had said something sensible backed up with facts, you wouldn't have generated all these remarks.

I just realise I could be talking to a kid with bad comprehension skills so whatever has been said just flew past him.

[Genocide788]

. Also didnt see u are member of rainbow guild so u are gem spender only this way u can do something :p
Amount of cash spent = $0
And i've not hit 100 yet. You aren't very bright are you?
What are you going to accuse me of next? Hacking? Wouldn't be surprised really.

[Thatzme]

. I wont belive u call me a kid person like u cant even diss me whatever u said u are nothing for me probably u play to long at games tatzme

Admittedly I do, I've been an avid gamer since eve, anarchy online, aion and also iphone games like pocket legends, blood brothers etc.

Also a word of advice. Google Translate is your best friend.

[Thatzme]

Lol u equate me to a chinese gold farmer aye. Nice stereotype there. I also have small eyes and yellow skin.

Wise one, this guy has stepped into the racial nono of forum rules. Zap him and his game acc pls. Thanks.

[Woggy]

So i've crafted the 4 armors....will the prizes come automatically after a week? or do we have to do something else?

[Thatzme]

So i've crafted the 4 armors....will the prizes come automatically after a week? or do we have to do something else?

I believe it will be spawned in ur armor slots after a week or so.

[Bearsuo]

I just realise I could be talking to a kid with bad comprehension skills so whatever has been said just flew past him.

I'm late to the party but if you peek at the boo to guild wars thread you'll notice we are in a similar predicament. To elevate the discourse I'm diverting our verbal jousting. Since I have no actual beef with you - you have too many consonants in your name. Take that! Also I'm not particularly enamored by the cut of your jib. Have you considered a slightly more updated jib cutting?

[Lieda]

Wheres my cape and bkal ???.:@

[Thatzme]

I'm late to the party but if you peek at the boo to guild wars thread you'll notice we are in a similar predicament. To elevate the discourse I'm diverting our verbal jousting. Since I have no actual beef with you - you have too many consonants in your name. Take that! Also I'm not particularly enamored by the cut of your jib. Have you considered a slightly more updated jib cutting?

Stooboot sounds like he could rap that whole paragraph just like the guy in his sig lol. Ugh I don't want verbal jousting and I like my style just fine yo.

Stooboot is a English professor next to Divine Scar yo.

[Zodog]

First everyone complained that they wouldn't have time craft all the armors, so they got a grace period. Now they complain about the grace period? Come on guys. Just use the time to focus on guild wars, and save up materials for when you get your bkal+. Don't come on the forums just to complain, if you had read through the forums you would have been prepared for this.

[Alexa]

First everyone complained that they wouldn't have time craft all the armors, so they got a grace period. Now they complain about the grace period? Come on guys. Just use the time to focus on guild wars, and save up materials for when you get your bkal+. Don't come on the forums just to complain, if you had read through the forums you would have been prepared for this.

I couldn't agree more! Though I was a bit upset I would have to wait one more week, but then I realized I have so much as in maxing all the dragon armours. People should do that often. Especially now. I'm guessing guild wars is just around the corner.

[KayOrzz]

Once again, I say, stupidity cannot be cured.

so true,

wonder where i heard this before, hmmm

:D

[Smokingpants]

Does it count if i crafted 3 of the armors but got one of the armors through the Epic chest? I have all four in my armory.

[Sakino]

Does it count if i crafted 3 of the armors but got one of the armors through the Epic chest? I have all four in my armory.
I think that getting the armor from chest or armory is the same, be sure is a plus and you will qualify.

[Stoner420]

My question is whatever happened to the balance in this game? 1. Getting all 4 plus armors is pretty much impossible 2. If you were lucky/RICH enough to get all 4 plus armors why be rewarded with the best set of armor in the game when you're already stupidly decked out anyway? 3. Why is the prize for collecting the 4 regular armors a set of worthless wings? Why isn't a set of regular BKal armor? Seems only fair and makes a LOT more sense then a stupid set of wings. Or at least get rid of the BKal plus armor and make it something just as worthless as the wings.

[deathexe]

My question is whatever happened to the balance in this game? 1. Getting all 4 plus armors is pretty much impossible 2. If you were lucky/RICH enough to get all 4 plus armors why be rewarded with the best set of armor in the game when you're already stupidly decked out anyway? 3. Why is the prize for collecting the 4 regular armors a set of worthless wings? Why isn't a set of regular BKal armor? Seems only fair and makes a LOT more sense then a stupid set of wings. Or at least get rid of the BKal plus armor and make it something just as worthless as the wings.

1. It's actually pretty easy If you're level 100 with a few maxed 70+ armors.

2. Because bkal+ is a one of a kind armor, and it's still worth getting it no matter how powerful your armors are. Eventually new armors will come out though.

3. Getting to level 15 and crafting the armor is relatively easy. A regular set of bkal is already powerful, it wouldn't make sense to give so many players the bkal. It's not exactly fair to give those with 4 normal dragon armors the bkal since you'll be able to reach 15 even as a lower level player if you have good level 100 friends and somewhat good armors.

[Thatzme]

My question is whatever happened to the balance in this game? 1. Getting all 4 plus armors is pretty much impossible 2. If you were lucky/RICH enough to get all 4 plus armors why be rewarded with the best set of armor in the game when you're already stupidly decked out anyway? 3. Why is the prize for collecting the 4 regular armors a set of worthless wings? Why isn't a set of regular BKal armor? Seems only fair and makes a LOT more sense then a stupid set of wings. Or at least get rid of the BKal plus armor and make it something just as worthless as the wings.

This guy sprung out from nowhere after the event and sounds kind of sore because he didn't get to qualify for the bkal+.

Dose of reality: KnD is officially a serious game that requires dedication to be decent in. Getting all 4 plus armors is not impossible. A lot of people on this forum who are not low levels are getting it. Why?

1) Some spent gems to get it. U dun need to spend ridiculous amount of gems to get the 4 plus armors. Ofc this is subjective, but some money spent in mmos nowadays seem to be needed.

2) Some achieved it without spending a single gem because they have the dedication to make sure they fully utilise their EEs in the right manner; they are not low levels trying to get it; they leveraged on the knowledge and support of every forum contributor; they have the right friends with right gears to use when called upon

The nonplus armors are easily attainable - i got all 4 nonplus on my lowbie 40 alt without much effort or gem spending. That's why the wings befit the easy mode. Getting the plus version on the other hand is not that simple - it requires what I've mentioned above to get that 100 mats to craft the plus version.

So different difficulty = different rewards. Why would Gree wanna give bkal out for such easy mode lol.

[busteroaf]

My question is whatever happened to the balance in this game? 1. Getting all 4 plus armors is pretty much impossible 2. If you were lucky/RICH enough to get all 4 plus armors why be rewarded with the best set of armor in the game when you're already stupidly decked out anyway? 3. Why is the prize for collecting the 4 regular armors a set of worthless wings? Why isn't a set of regular BKal armor? Seems only fair and makes a LOT more sense then a stupid set of wings. Or at least get rid of the BKal plus armor and make it something just as worthless as the wings.

And who said the game is/was balanced? High levels will generally always beat lower levels. The top guilds stay on top for a reason. Have you ever played other games of this nature? The best stay at the top because they get the best rewards.

Compare it to things like the olympics. Countries that field 100's of Olympians each games tend to win the most medals. Why? Because they are better funded, trained, have more people competing, and generally are better prepared for such things. That country that sends two people to compete in competitive walking... they aren't going to reap super huge rewards even if they take home a gold. It is the countries that win the majority of the medals: the US, China, Great Britain, Russia, those countries stay on top. Do we punish these countries for being able to win, all the time? No, cause thats not fair. So why hate on the top players here that reap rewards?

[dd_knights]

And who said the game is/was balanced? High levels will generally always beat lower levels. The top guilds stay on top for a reason. Have you ever played other games of this nature? The best stay at the top because they get the best rewards.

Compare it to things like the olympics. Countries that field 100's of Olympians each games tend to win the most medals. Why? Because they are better funded, trained, have more people competing, and generally are better prepared for such things. That country that sends two people to compete in competitive walking... they aren't going to reap super huge rewards even if they take home a gold. It is the countries that win the majority of the medals: the US, China, Great Britain, Russia, those countries stay on top. Do we punish these countries for being able to win, all the time? No, cause thats not fair. So why hate on the top players here that reap rewards?

You compared apples and oranges. If you want to make a direct comparison to the original post and the Olympics, then a more direct comparison would be giving the gold medalist a 1 second head start in the next Olympics. Medal rewards are like wings (no competitive advantage... just for show). A 1 second head start in the next Olympics is like Bkal+. Gives you a competitive advantage and only given to players that are already beefed up. So based on your example, giving competitors in the Olympics a 1 second head start is ok, because they should be able to reap the rewards of their effort from the previous Olympics.

Btw, I'm getting Bkal+ and I'm glad to be getting the 1 second head start. ;)

[Stoner420]

I'm not sore about not qualifying for the BKal plus just sore at Gree in general. (They've screwed me over on quite a few things in game.) Deathexe and Thatzme you both clarified things for me. It makes sense now. I definitely see the point of how relatively easy it is the get the regular armors. And everything else you both said makes sense. I am a dedicated player. Only been playing 2 months (just got to lvl 71) but play every day as often as I can. Guess I just need to push harder and learn more about the game. Ty for your responses. (Btw I've gotten my butt kicked quite a few times by you in the arena Thatzme. Lol)

[busteroaf]

Apples and oranges? Possibly. But the "1 second head start" you're talking about is where I'm saying by being bigger, better funded, and better trained. 99.9% of the time, the guys (and girls) from US/China/Russia etc just... have more. And they don't necessarily need a head start against the lower tier players/competitors to win anyway. This isn't a case of everyone and every country being equal, one person winning, and the winner gets an advantage next go round. There are clearly different levels of players/guilds/guild bonuses in this game, and as such, there is already an advantage had by many.

That guy from Moldova that won a bronze in weightlifting... is that going to spur the Moldovan Olympic Committee or whatever their national Olympic program is to give them more funding to where they win every year? Possibly, but probably not. Its the the same as the high levels having maxed out legendary armors to newer players "big 4". The high levels will continue to beat the bosses and crank out +versions of armors, and for some free, partially enhanced regular versions, while the up and coming people will get regular versions, or maybe some enhancement materials to max out their armors. That is the competitive advantage.

[Issaquah]

Allow me to pose another perspective.

As one of the level 100 players with a respectable set of armors I was able to qualify for the BKal+. I rarely do chests and this event allowed me an opportunity to close the gap between me and many of the high end players that may already have the BKal+ along with some of the other top armors from chests.

Coincidently the first epic armor came out and I can see an incentive for those players with a catalogue of those top 5 armors to get this new armor. All this does is return the balance, or lack there of, while generating more revenue for Gree.

[Stoner420]

Allow me to pose another perspective.

As one of the level 100 players with a respectable set of armors I was able to qualify for the BKal+. I rarely do chests and this event allowed me an opportunity to close the gap between me and many of the high end players that may already have the BKal+ along with some of the other top armors from chests.

Coincidently the first epic armor came out and I can see an incentive for those players with a catalogue of those top 5 armors to get this new armor. All this does is return the balance, or lack there of, while generating more revenue for Gree.

This is quite true and I see your point. I've got 5-6 legendary armors that I need to get maxed out and then I'll be good to go. Seems once I hit lvl 70 things started getting a lot easier. Lately it's also seemed to me that Gree is definitely out to make money. Can't really blame em though. Most companies are and need to make a living too.

[Bearsuo]

My question is whatever happened to the balance in this game?

When was this game balanced? Arena favors playing "more" rather than "better." Ignoring mudflation, which is only beginning to be non negligible, it was a predestined game of jiagan OR "memorize the player names." Match 250, if you like.

I could go on, but that was just a silly thing to say.

Secondly, the flip side - why do epic bosses if the gear rewards are the same strength as stuff you already have? There are four motivations for why players play; one of them would never care, the other two would quit; the remaining is a tiny minority that depends, socially, as the others, on the others (cf Fury's failure)

[eyearsam]

Hey guys could people with max nemisis add me please level 83 with Max Guardian's battle gear (S/E)

Code: XBB-QGZ-RZR

Thanks

[shukai84]

too much craps...so when am i getting the bk+? the stupid drg amrs are taking up space in my inventory..

[Musketeer]

too much craps...so when am i getting the bk+? the stupid drg amrs are taking up space in my inventory..

Read the first post in the thread.

[skulligan]

Not a frequent poster but had to jump in on this one....
Realy not understanding the hatred being directed to those who recieved BK+ armor. Will recieve. hopefully. (i didnt need to keep my non + versions, right?) So first things first i have not spent one cent on this game. i have spent gems that i have gotten through the "get free gems" offers. i am not a ringer or a whale or whatever the right term is for a high level high dollar player. my first two + armors were the flame summoners shroud and jackalope chaingarb, which i was only able to get because i had been smart enough to save all my free gems up, and wait for the game to do a 5 gem per summoning deal at the summoning stone. and since i had come clost to getting to level 43 on those armors when their boss was active, it didnt cost that many gems. then i worked my butt off crafting and leveling and farming materials so i could level those both up to max level so i could use them to beat all the ancient dragons. during whicvh time i had to very smart about when i attacked the ancient dragons based on friend availibility and energy regen. all while continuing to farm and craft and level so i could get to level 35 and get my + versions. so by putting in a bit of effort, i was able to do for free what a majority of people probably paid to get. (true or false: did most that got it spend real money, or just use strategy and free gems?) how is that anything but fair, and does it do anything except create more "balance?"
just sayin.....

[Lieda]

Tbh i was like rawrrr dont give kaleidos like that.

But then again its not like its going to be game breaking, they wont have as much status as most plus legendaries, also, theres now the epic stuff, prolly more will show up, and theres the other knights too, the team config as a whole will determine whos gonna win, as in, having a kaleido plus doesnt means auto win... As an example, i prefer to,face a kaleido plus than a jian plus, becuz i take doubled damage,from it, and still, i managed to beat many jian pluses using pyro's plus becuz of proper special attack timing, and team order. But anyways only future could tell ;)

[Lieda]

BTW , I want my wings right now =_=

[Alexa]

Tbh i was like rawrrr dont give kaleidos like that.

But then again its not like its going to be game breaking, they wont have as much status as most plus legendaries, also, theres now the epic stuff, prolly more will show up, and theres the other knights too, the team config as a whole will determine whos gonna win, as in, having a kaleido plus doesnt means auto win... As an example, i prefer to,face a kaleido plus than a jian plus, becuz i take doubled damage,from it, and still, i managed to beat many jian pluses using pyro's plus becuz of proper special attack timing, and team order. But anyways only future could tell ;)

It's not too long before Gree oughta release 10 star armours...

[Alexa]

Yeah uh. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Gree is always going to put out better armours. And then these better armours will eventually become trash in the future and then Gree will release another better set of armours and then these newer better armours will again be trash in the future and so on and so forth.

It's always been like that. That's how you stay in business.

[Lieda]

Yeah uh. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Gree is always going to put out better armours. And then these better armours will eventually become trash in the future and then Gree will release another better set of armours and then these newer better armours will again be trash in the future and so on and so forth.

It's always been like that. That's how you stay in business.

Thats what i tought, i mean, who uses a white kaleido nowadays?

[deathexe]

Thats what i tought, i mean, who uses a white kaleido nowadays?

Technical the white kal was never actually useful in any case, even way back then. The stats were too low for it to have been useful, and too troublesome to craft or level. In most cases, the white kaleidoscope was only crafted by players for the achievement.

[cool-extreme]

Last epic fail of gree another week of waiting...
Some of us have play hard to reach the requirement after the deadline
And now every other guis can have one more week
I don't like this kind of action