Gree are you joking??

[KFH]

So hit a guy 5x all hit well over 400, so I decide to throw some gold into it. Right after my refill 250, 220,320 then my400. I don't think this could be any more ridiculous, I feel like making this obvious drop in points after using gold as and insult. At least be creative in screwing us

[djl]

Equally irritating: losing 3 out of 4 to a player with 20% lower defense than my attack. And it wasn't just once, but in 3 different battles. I am 137k, opponent was 111k once and 115k another time. Worst was current battle: 109k defense beats me 3 out of 4????

[djl]

While we are talking battle problems: Droid consistently gets lower defense than iOS. A Droid scout reports 100k, iOS attacks and it's 115k. That's been the same for 3 wars now. Can't this be fixed????? Really, this is basic programming.

[Azn]

Equally irritating: losing 3 out of 4 to a player with 20% lower defense than my attack. And it wasn't just once, but in 3 different battles. I am 137k, opponent was 111k once and 115k another time. Worst was current battle: 109k defense beats me 3 out of 4????

Well sometimes there are opponents who have skill points in offense and defense. Some players in my faction have beaten 200k players when they are 170k and I am assuming that offense/defense skill points have some relevant reasoning to it. So it's not completely impossible...

[Dkaell]

Equally irritating: losing 3 out of 4 to a player with 20% lower defense than my attack. And it wasn't just once, but in 3 different battles. I am 137k, opponent was 111k once and 115k another time. Worst was current battle: 109k defense beats me 3 out of 4????

That actually started happening to me as well about 3 wars ago. People with stats i've been beating like a drum started beating me 2-3 out of 4 times. last guy was being reported by the Android scouts at 97k def and the ios scouts at 116k def and i lose 3 of 4 with my 140k attack. This wasn't happening until 3 wars ago

[Dkaell]

So hit a guy 5x all hit well over 400, so I decide to throw some gold into it. Right after my refill 250, 220,320 then my400. I don't think this could be any more ridiculous, I feel like making this obvious drop in points after using gold as and insult. At least be creative in screwing us

Points, ugh, 400 has been rare for me even though most of my opponents are double to triple my level (i'm lvl 60) have had several 3x my level opponents that paid more under 300 points than over 300 points

[nickdpro99]

That's cute guys. I have nearly 80 k attack. I lost to this guy with 55k Defence.

[Pakmom1]

We've been having way too much trouble with this too. Something has drastically changed for me since the last war. i had a blast with that one because i'm in a new faction and it really is a team effort here. but I've lost to more people than i could ever imagine, both on my ios and droid games.

Droid stats show me 195att, and i lose against people with 120 def, a lot! Sometimes I will win 1st then loose next 2, sometimes just straight losses.

Not as many loses on my ios, which is 180's att, but it will flip back and forth. Same scenario as above, but win / lose seem to alternate.

And seeing result screens showing my att in 180's, their def 120's but I lost, well....add insult to injury.

They need to do something about this.

[OBAMASMAMA]

How bout this? 2 accounts:

Droid- 420k
iOS- 540k

What??

[WinD-n-RaiN]

Equally irritating: losing 3 out of 4 to a player with 20% lower defense than my attack. And it wasn't just once, but in 3 different battles. I am 137k, opponent was 111k once and 115k another time. Worst was current battle: 109k defense beats me 3 out of 4????

That makes me really mad aswell.....I don't understand.... 25% lower defence and they still beat me....

[JohnnyR]

Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but I'm finding it odd that players with about 50k stats can gain or lose a few hundred stats-between battles. This normal?

[General Flame]

It can be very painful.
Once I fought against someone with higher defence than me and I still won, I earned more than 400 points.
But most of the time, I just get 100 points. -,-

[nickdpro99]

It can be very painful.
Once I fought against someone with higher defence than me and I still won, I earned more than 400 points.
But most of the time, I just get 100 points. -,-

I know that feel bro. But this doesn't happen to me anymore. The maximum I earn is 230 points. Otherwise it's 150-200. Regardless of level and attack.

[KFH]

My biggest problem is in a game based on stats, stats don't matter. What is the point on getting better stats when you can't use them to know if you will win. This is funny when it doesn't matter what stats you have

[Prvt. Parts]

Everyone here seems to be forgetting the obvious: Your own stats are not displayed properly on Android.

So when you say something like "I have attack of 150K but lost to someone with defense of 110K," that's not really accurate. In fact your attack is probably more like 100-110K, but your device is not displaying it properly. Meanwhile it is displaying something approximately accurate about your opponents' stats.

I'm not saying it's ok. It's ridiculous. I'm on Android too, and I've learned to simply take 25-40% off of my displayed stats in order to strategize.

[Philly982]

While we are talking battle problems: Droid consistently gets lower defense than iOS. A Droid scout reports 100k, iOS attacks and it's 115k. That's been the same for 3 wars now. Can't this be fixed????? Really, this is basic programming.

Our faction is experiencing the exact opposite. Our Android players are reporting defenses about 50k - 100k higher than our iOS players. We are all also experiencing losses that should not be from the battle results screen and by gaps that are too large to be explained by skill points.

[Web323]

Hit was hitting a player at lvl 236 which is 34 lvls higher than me and only got 197,230,268,310. The only time I got decent points was hitting someone equal to my attack and getting a 50/50 win ratio.

[Golf4life]

This is a game though.

All of the fun would be taken out of it if you knew exactly how many WD points you were getting per hit, or exactly what the other person's defense will be each hit or day. More strategy is involved with the skill points in this aspect. Because you lose to someone with 50k defense lower than your attack simply means they dumped 200 SPs into defense and you dumped yours into energy, getting more units during PVP events than them and higher stats.

Nothing has changed about this since the beginning of the WD events. It may suck, but it would suck even more if the game was so boring that I don't get a little shock when I lose to someone with 30k less defense.

Stats in this game are incredibly dynamic and once you come to grips with that, you can learn to play this game for enjoyment and not complain about it.

The WD points vary so much because it is based on the swings of the stats. So just know that when you got 450WD points, you were pretty close to losing that battle, but just barely won it. When you got 223 points the next time, it means that your attack was at the peak and their defense was at the pit.

It is a game, and just like real life, you need to learn to adapt, change and succeed.

[I don't know]

I'm on droid and while i was attacking some guy my attack dropped 25k!!! I should've won them all. Also one time an oppenents defence ranged 20k defence. when will this be getting fixed!!!!

[Golf4life]

it is fixed

this is how the game was designed. if you don't like it, don't play.
I'm on droid and while i was attacking some guy my attack dropped 25k!!! I should've won them all. Also one time an oppenents defence ranged 20k defence. when will this be getting fixed!!!!

[Pornogirl]

haha, there was a guy. I was hitting for about 100, I reckon. Suddenly, they gave me 8 gold coins instead!? LOL...

[KFH]

This is a game though.

All of the fun would be taken out of it if you knew exactly how many WD points you were getting per hit, or exactly what the other person's defense will be each hit or day. More strategy is involved with the skill points in this aspect. Because you lose to someone with 50k defense lower than your attack simply means they dumped 200 SPs into defense and you dumped yours into energy, getting more units during PVP events than them and higher stats.

Nothing has changed about this since the beginning of the WD events. It may suck, but it would suck even more if the game was so boring that I don't get a little shock when I lose to someone with 30k less defense.

Stats in this game are incredibly dynamic and once you come to grips with that, you can learn to play this game for enjoyment and not complain about it.

The WD points vary so much because it is based on the swings of the stats. So just know that when you got 450WD points, you were pretty close to losing that battle, but just barely won it. When you got 223 points the next time, it means that your attack was at the peak and their defense was at the pit.

It is a game, and just like real life, you need to learn to adapt, change and succeed.another good point golf

[Max Power]

So hit a guy 5x all hit well over 400, so I decide to throw some gold into it. Right after my refill 250, 220,320 then my400. I don't think this could be any more ridiculous, I feel like making this obvious drop in points after using gold as and insult. At least be creative in screwing us

To be fair, I have found that this kind of variation is routine, and not really dependent on gold.

Of all the things that are messed up in this game, I am not sure this is a thread starter.

[Max Power]

Haven't seen you in a long time on the forums. Where have you been, man?

kinda slowed down on it for a while, but started using the forums again when all these LTEs started popping up. The walk-throughs and recon are amazing.

[Max Power]

Well it's nice to see you around. Welcome back.

Thanks!!!!!

[Jarod]

Not the only bad thing they've done :/

[Cmputrgbln]

We've been having way too much trouble with this too. Something has drastically changed for me since the last war. i had a blast with that one because i'm in a new faction and it really is a team effort here. but I've lost to more people than i could ever imagine, both on my ios and droid games.

Droid stats show me 195att, and i lose against people with 120 def, a lot! Sometimes I will win 1st then loose next 2, sometimes just straight losses.

Not as many loses on my ios, which is 180's att, but it will flip back and forth. Same scenario as above, but win / lose seem to alternate.

And seeing result screens showing my att in 180's, their def 120's but I lost, well....add insult to injury.

They need to do something about this.

Has to do with the fact that you are seeing their unboosted stats guys. One thing I found out is that when you view your faction mates via Faction Members, you see lower stats then if you were to view them via Visit Allies. With all the boost units and faction bonuses, some times your target's D could be about double than what it shows! Throw in Attack skill points (some have boosted it a lot) and you have the "unknown factor" that Gree is aiming for.

Used to be: What you see is what you get.
Now: What you see does NOT include bonus boosts....

[Lamentor]

Points go down when you destroy boost buildings, as that makes the opponent easier to defeat. Skill points affect stats greatly imo. I'm able to defeat people 40-50k higher than my atk because of my 160 attack. I can't do the same on my other def based account.

Not that I'm defending Gree in saying this, but the mechanics are obvious if you look for them. If something seems off, yes Gree probably messed up, but that doesn't mean you should act like you can't figure things out for yourself and act like there's no solution that can't be figured out with a small bit of paying attention to what's going on. Gree bugs are a part of the game! We have to live with it. It'll never change.