Dead of Winter

[Person]

LTQ is active.

Regular:
The Dead of Winter (1/27) Winter Watchman 88 112 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (2/27) Devil's Touch 31 20 Weapon
The Dead of Winter (3/27) Vile Ballista 86 214
The Dead of Winter (4/27) Dueling Axes 31 21 Weapon
The Dead of Winter (5/27) Steelhoof Champion 189 211 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (6/27) Cursed Glaive 48 37 Weapon
The Dead of Winter (7/27) Bandit Airship 225 275 Machine
The Dead of Winter (8/27) Smoldering Robe 16 27 Armor
The Dead of Winter (9/27) Battle Avatar 300 300 Beast
The Dead of Winter (10/27) Duelist Armor 16 27 Armor
The Dead of Winter (11/27) Cobra Proctector 350 350 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (12/27) Trojan Plate 25 15 Armor
The Dead of Winter (13/27) Slumbering Lord 500 410 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (14/27) Dark Enchantress 528 572 Magic
The Dead of Winter (15/27) Winter Paladin 570 730 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (16/27) Fury Dragon 822 673 Beast
The Dead of Winter (17/27) Arcanis Tome 65 55 Weapon
The Dead of Winter (18/27) Drider Bane 65 55 Weapon
The Dead of Winter (19/27) Sumarna Blade 65 55
The Dead of Winter (20/27) Medusa 1,047 698 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (21/27) Cthonic Plate 44 126 Armor
The Dead of Winter (22/27) Oracular Leather 44 126 Armor
The Dead of Winter (23/27) Necrotic Armor 44 126 Armor
The Dead of Winter (24/27) Bog Beast 892 1,108 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (25/27) Umbral Skinchanger 1,358 1,112 Magic
The Dead of Winter (26/27) Warrior of Artemis 1,800 1,472 Infantry
The Dead of Winter (27/27) White Dragon 2,125 1,625 Beast

HEROIC:
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (1/27) Keeper of Souls 1530 769 Magic
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (2/27) Arachnid Insight 43 34 Weapon
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (3/27) Blizzard Titan 964 1,445 Magic
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (4/27) Royal Duelers 43 34 Weapon
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (5/27) Umbral Skinchanger 1,358 1,112 Beast
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (6/27) Frostbite 76 94 Weapon
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (7/27) Cursed Lich 1,425 1,286 Magic
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (8/27) War Mage Robes 23 46 Armor
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (9/27) Silk Queen 1,155 1,650
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (10/27) Rose Plate Armor 23 46 Armor
Heroic:The Dead of Winter (11/27) Dragon's Fang Warrior 1,740 1,160 Infantry
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (12/27) Legionnaire Guard 37 65 Armor
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (13/27) Royal Guard Panix 1,244 1,864 Magic
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (14/27) Prince of Vengeance 1,815 1,485
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (15/27) Umbral Fury 2,035 1,665
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (16/27) Gorglesh's Rival 2,610 1,492
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (17/27) Kaithen Ice Shard 102 92 Weapon Mage
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (18/27) Kaithen Daggers 102 92 Weapon Rogue
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (19/27) Kaithen Executioner 102 92 Weapon Warrior
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (20/27) Ice Mage 2,291 2,291 Magic
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (21/27) Kaithen Burial Shroud 59 118 Armor Mage
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (22/27) Kathen Leathers 59 118 Armor Rogue
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (23/27) Kaithen Plate 59 118 Armor Warrior
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (24/27) Acheron 2,900 2,100 Beast
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (25/27)
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (26/27)
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (27/27)


Sorry for the Delay!

[King Ben]

Not me. There seems to be a time lapse with some regions getting it first before the other ...

[Dirt road Joe]

checked as active in the LTQ list, didnt get it to spawn yet.

anyone who managed to do so?

It is active but not launched. It may be another 12 hours before it starts.
When it does, please be sure to update your OP with all the info to let everyone know :)
Thanks!

[Person]

It is active but not launched. It may be another 12 hours before it starts.
When it does, please be sure to update your OP with all the info to let everyone know :)
Thanks!

will do to my best abilities. Might only finish it near the end of the event though, im never that fast :)

[JanKA]

checked as active in the LTQ list, didnt get it to spawn yet.

anyone who managed to do so?

Says active but nope nothing's moving yet.

[s.m.p]

Is the dead of winter the guild quest, or not?

[SlayerD99]

I watched when it went active but I havent seen anything pop up yet and ive turned off KA several times so must be a time release waiting to go off

[Chazz CC]

Usually the events seem to start and end around noon and midnight pst. Normally they say active before they really are, so my guess would be in approximately 6.5 to 7 hours or so.

[Carbonstereoxide]

Maybe the Dead of Winter Quest is the Guild Quest?i might be wrong though..

[Skyraiders]

i think the guild quest is the limited time quest before the war starts.......my only clue is the orbs you are collecting say limited time above it in yellow.....think they go together.....i really dont know....WE are all guessing.

Sirius/CJ I know your busy but can anyone please elaborate on the guild format......how many quests? what are the orbs used for? how are the orbs used? when do we use them? Will there be other styles of events? what kind of events will there be? Please help. .......EVERYONE wants to know.

Thank you in advance for anything you can add to this!!

[Eddard KFF]

i think the guild quest is the limited time quest before the war starts.......my only clue is the orbs you are collecting say limited time above it in yellow.....think they go together.....i really dont know....WE are all guessing.

Sirius/CJ I know your busy but can anyone please elaborate on the guild format......how many quests? what are the orbs used for? how are the orbs used? when do we use them? Will there be other styles of events? what kind of events will there be? Please help. .......EVERYONE wants to know.

Thank you in advance for anything you can add to this!!

Orbs are related to a future Epic Boss Guild Qust. Read that somewhere, so keep collecting them!

[Gato]

i think the guild quest is the limited time quest before the war starts.......my only clue is the orbs you are collecting say limited time above it in yellow.....think they go together.....i really dont know....WE are all guessing.

Sirius/CJ I know your busy but can anyone please elaborate on the guild format......how many quests? what are the orbs used for? how are the orbs used? when do we use them? Will there be other styles of events? what kind of events will there be? Please help. .......EVERYONE wants to know.

Thank you in advance for anything you can add to this!!


I agree!!! This is crazy. How easy would it be so post a pop-up with directions on when how and why?

I play many other games and I have never seen such a disorganized process!

[Shadows]

Maybe the Dead of Winter Quest is the Guild Quest?i might be wrong though..

Yeah, that was my idea too... since all the units have to do with winter, as do most of the mobs...

[Mickeytah]

Guys, you should be used to this by now. The quest is almost always listed as active before it actually starts. It's not a new thing. Just save your energy for when it actually becomes playable.

[Bb233]

Maybe the guild quest was/is the Dead of Winter quest.

[DavidtheBoo]

I dont think its the guild quest, that is called 'war effort'. Most events start in around 40 minutes so just wait till it starts

[ELVIS2K13]

Guys, you should be used to this by now. The quest is almost always listed as active before it actually starts. It's not a new thing. Just save your energy for when it actually becomes playable.

its been the same way for months , you are right. this thread is pointless.

[Bluedood]

Just got the splash screen for orbs, they will be used in future raid boss events!

[Sirius]

Here's an update for the quest folks:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?59692-Dead-of-Winter-**UPDATE**&p=841755#post841755

[Person]

As I'll be sleeping soon the first page of the thread won't be updated very soon :)

[Shinazueli]

i think the guild quest is the limited time quest before the war starts.......my only clue is the orbs you are collecting say limited time above it in yellow.....think they go together.....i really dont know....WE are all guessing.

Sirius/CJ I know your busy but can anyone please elaborate on the guild format......how many quests? what are the orbs used for? how are the orbs used? when do we use them? Will there be other styles of events? what kind of events will there be? Please help. .......EVERYONE wants to know.

Thank you in advance for anything you can add to this!!

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a526/shinazueli/image_zps9e7eeb73.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/shinazueli/media/image_zps9e7eeb73.jpg.html)

ORLY CUZ WE DON'T READ!?!?!?

...Or was that an internal memo you meant to release to your customer service folks, who really do have that problem.

[taxman]

Looks interesting with both a guild and individual component.

[captainpony]

The spreadsheet is blank and won't let me edit it. Also, the OP is not updating with info on the LTQ.
Should we start a new thread?
Also, any info on how to access the spreadsheet would be greatly appreciated.


Spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgCUTOSskdQjdGlOWW4yTWJaQUxJSUt6clRTeXlEe UE#gid=107)

[Skyraiders]

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a526/shinazueli/image_zps9e7eeb73.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/shinazueli/media/image_zps9e7eeb73.jpg.html)

ORLY CUZ WE DON'T READ!?!?!?

...Or was that an internal memo you meant to release to your customer service folks, who really do have that problem.

Yes looking at that picture explains all my questions....thanks ..please explain it to me??

[The Good Doctor]

Is there a mimimum level needed to participate in the individual quest? Kid's character has the guild but not the individual. He is a lvl 36.

[Sirius]

Is there a mimimum level needed to participate in the individual quest? Kid's character has the guild but not the individual. He is a lvl 36.

If from what I remember it starts around level 38.

[ELVIS2K13]

my guild just finished 10/15 reward Dark Reanimator 3400/2600 i believe that was a normal boss reward a month ago

[Greybeard]

Does anyone know if the weapon is usable by all classes? Is there one at the end of normal and one at the end of heroic?

[Finsfan]

My guess is it will be universal like Cupid's bow. The normal final prize is a white dragon no weapon.

[Gt4094rs]

Does anyone know if the weapon is usable by all classes? Is there one at the end of normal and one at the end of heroic?

I'm a warrior and I'm using the 1000 swords of winter I think the sword is only for warrior but I could be wrong.

[Mickeytah]

I'm a warrior and I'm using the 1000 swords of winter I think the sword is only for warrior but I could be wrong.

I would hope so. Making the grand prize be a weapon only 1/3 of your users can wield is just silly.

[Ruger_888]

Is there a second 15 (heroic) rounds for the guild quest? The "increased drop rate" is throwing me off. Thanks!

[Person]

The spreadsheet is blank and won't let me edit it. Also, the OP is not updating with info on the LTQ.
Should we start a new thread?
Also, any info on how to access the spreadsheet would be greatly appreciated.


Spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgCUTOSskdQjdGlOWW4yTWJaQUxJSUt6clRTeXlEe UE#gid=107)

First post is updated, also you know it was 3 am for me when you posted that right?

[Person]

updated, only the last 4 guys!

[Krissy]

Is there a second 15 (heroic) rounds for the guild quest? The "increased drop rate" is throwing me off. Thanks!

Nope no heroic guild quest. There are 2 levels on the individual quest.

BEWARE if you stay at the same map in individual heroic that your guild is on you get improved monsters with higher drop rate. If you blaze thru to get sword of winters and then come back to help your guild all you get is normal monsters with the sucky drop rate.

[Master Stormzs]

Can anyone give me a sense on how many lvls you gained to finish Heroic or to get to where you are? I know it's different for each person (based on lvl, HS, etc..) but again I'm trying to get an idea of the amt of leveling, as I would like to stay at my current boss bracket.
- thanks in advance

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Can anyone give me a sense on how many lvls you gained to finish Heroic or to get to where you are? I know it's different for each person (based on lvl, HS, etc..) but again I'm trying to get an idea of the amt of leveling, as I would like to stay at my current boss bracket.
- thanks in advance

Not sure if this is going to help, as it doesn't directly answer your question, but I was about 1/2 through level 138, guild quest was gotten to 10/15, and on 27/27 of Normal, I just leveled to 139.

[Shinazueli]

Not sure if this is going to help, as it doesn't directly answer your question, but I was about 1/2 through level 138, guild quest was gotten to 10/15, and on 27/27 of Normal, I just leveled to 139.

I've gained 3 levels from 120 to 123 to finish the individual portion. I expect to do another 2 levels to finish the guild quest. Not bad for 100-150k stats. And an energy regen bonus previously only available to FUN and RK.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Can anyone give me a sense on how many lvls you gained to finish Heroic or to get to where you are? I know it's different for each person (based on lvl, HS, etc..) but again I'm trying to get an idea of the amt of leveling, as I would like to stay at my current boss bracket.
- thanks in advance

See below. Also, The first Heroic mode quest part finished gives you 150 experience upon completion, with the mobs giving 15 experience per hit. should give you an idea of how much you will gain.


I've gained 3 levels from 120 to 123 to finish the individual portion. I expect to do another 2 levels to finish the guild quest. Not bad for 100-150k stats. And an energy regen bonus previously only available to FUN and RK.

Yes - of the recent LTQs, between the individual quest and guild quest, definitely worth the leveling up for the rewards.

[Silent follower]

I would hope so. Making the grand prize be a weapon only 1/3 of your users can wield is just silly.

Sirius wrote in another thread that it is usable for all classes. It's in the sticky thread. See here:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?59692-Dead-of-Winter-**UPDATE**/page3

[Shadows]

According to the Google spreadsheet (thx, TempusDA!), the first three weapons are Arachnic Insight (43/34), Royal Duelers (43/34), and Frostbite (76/94). It sounds iike mage, rogue, and warrior weapons. If this is accurate, then warriors again in a LTQ received better weapons than the other classes early on? If so, then WTF Gree??

Can anyone please add any insight to these weapons? Thx!

<edit> okay, just got all three and yup! Gree is once again rewarding the warrior class.. why, Gree? Why isn't it a level playing field?

[yaz]

According to the spreadsheet, in heroic mode, levels 25, 26, and 27 total 120,000 points. For me that's well over a mountain of gems. Have others experienced these last 3 levels costing that much?

[Kjctnorris]

Last few levels take a lot of hits. Somewhere around 150-160 hits on stage 26 at around 95 energy per hit (not counting the damage on the counterattack).

Stage 27, I've lost count, but I know I've put in at least 50 so far on the fat guy at 230 energy a pop. Probably ten more shots to go? Plus another 25-30 on each of the knights?

Yeah, it takes some effort (cash) if you plan on getting the sword.

[Klassenr@hotmail.com]

According to the spreadsheet, in heroic mode, levels 25, 26, and 27 total 120,000 points. For me that's well over a mountain of gems. Have others experienced these last 3 levels costing that much?

Oh yeah, the last three levels are a dirty dirty little......... Personally I doubt a free player can get past lvl 24H. Maybe they could, but finishing free? Nah

[Kjctnorris]

This is what you get for stage 27(H)

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/kjctnorris/ffc436845c573b4de8af52b00d7476c9.jpg

And this is what you get if you complete the guild and individual quest (5% bonus to alliance attack not shown)

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/kjctnorris/9b5e7e52cc413881689a19ef9a5f5297.jpg

Edit: I'm not positive, but I think the Snow Dragon and the Frost Whelp were the prizes for stages 25(H) and 26(H) respectively.

Edit #2: actually, I think the frost whelp was for the guild LTQ. Ok... Someone's gonna have to help fill in the other blank.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/kjctnorris/e464f68d02f2b6f1dfda055a9f2e3c6a.jpg

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Thanks everyone for getting all this data together!

All I can say is, from all the info about how much energy it takes to get through everything, I'm really glad there are over 5 days left, and for the GQ completion, you get +1 energy per minute which will help.

[-OP-]

The last level on heroic took me 16 energy refills at about 300 per hit just for the prince. The 4 others that were with him, don't remember their names took about 4 refills each. Level before was just as bad.

All in all it took about 2000-2100 gems to complete both levels. 600 or so for normal and 14-1500 for heroic.

[ELVIS2K13]

greee wouldnt give out new hero weapons and a crazy strong dragon for cheap

[Gambit12]

This is what you get for stage 27(H)

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/kjctnorris/ffc436845c573b4de8af52b00d7476c9.jpg

And this is what you get if you complete the guild and individual quest (5% bonus to alliance attack not shown)

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/kjctnorris/9b5e7e52cc413881689a19ef9a5f5297.jpg

Edit: I'm not positive, but I think the Snow Dragon and the Frost Whelp were the prizes for stages 25(H) and 26(H) respectively.

Edit #2: actually, I think the frost whelp was for the guild LTQ. Ok... Someone's gonna have to help fill in the other blank.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/kjctnorris/e464f68d02f2b6f1dfda055a9f2e3c6a.jpg


Congrats Kjctnorris & thanks for the info..:cool: How much gems did you burned if you don't mind telling us..?

[Dirt road Joe]

Congrats Kjctnorris & thanks for the info..:cool: How much gems did you burned if you don't mind telling us..?
He told me but I don't quite remember... I think he said something like 2500 Gems... maybe it was closer to 2000 I don't remember. All I remember is that it was a very unhealthy amount lol I for one like to make LTQs last as long as possible... anything to save a buck ;) You can ask any of the MoC members and they will tell you that there have been many times I finish within the last hour.. even within the last minute!

[Kjctnorris]

Gambit, I can't say for sure because the frost dragons really screwed me on gem usage (the guild stalled for about a period of twelve hours on this stage, so i started farming them with little luck), but the numbers Joe gave you are just an estimate. Without having more intel on what the guild quest entailed, I didn't want to miss out on the grand prize, so I exhausted a lot more finishing this much faster than I should've.

Hindsight being 20/20, if a good portion of your guild participates in the individual quest, for the most part, the guild quest will take care of itself. Save yourself some money and have everyone do as much of the individual quest first. I screwed myself on five days worth of free health regen for no reason.

Good thing they had a 40% sale during this event.

[Gambit12]

He told me but I don't quite remember... I think he said something like 2500 Gems... maybe it was closer to 2000 I don't remember. All I remember is that it was a very unhealthy amount lol I for one like to make LTQs last as long as possible... anything to save a buck ;) You can ask any of the MoC members and they will tell you that there have been many times I finish within the last hour.. even within the last minute!


I can see you & norris has the same signature & that means your in the same Guild team. Anyways, that's also my strategy too, make the most of the time you have in LTQ & most of all gotta have patience..:cool:

[mmalkove]

I'll have to settle for the Kaithen Ice Shard 102 92 Weapon. No way I can afford the sword. Still a vast improvement if I can get there with the 200 gems I have left!

[mtlfce]

Can anyone explain the bonus on the Ancient Winter Dragon? "Alliance attack increases by 5%"
Is that a boost for all units? or maybe you get a 5% more ally count when attacking?
Anyone?

[Gambit12]

Heroic: The Dead of Winter (25/27)
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (26/27)
Heroic: The Dead of Winter (27/27)


25/27 is Sapphire Tarragon - 3,452/2,810(beast)

[Person]

I know, but I can't update anymore as mobile ip addresses are banned, and for some reason my home IP address is too. I'm using the bus wifi atm, but my iPod wont allow me to update :/

[Shinazueli]

Can anyone explain the bonus on the Ancient Winter Dragon? "Alliance attack increases by 5%"
Is that a boost for all units? or maybe you get a 5% more ally count when attacking?
Anyone?
It's basically a 5% boost to your attack stat, disregarding equipment.

[leek]

Is the alliance attach boost of 5% applied to purely unboosted stats or applied after all infantry/magic/beast/machine boosts are included?


It's basically a 5% boost to your attack stat, disregarding equipment.

[Kjctnorris]

Is the alliance attach boost of 5% applied to purely unboosted stats or applied after all infantry/magic/beast/machine boosts are included?
Your stats would be the same regardless of which order the boost is applied.

[leek]

Your stats would be the same regardless of which order the boost is applied.

Really? If the individual class boosts and the alliance boosts are applied on the base stats, rather than boost on boost, the results would be quite different right?

[Kjctnorris]

You're multiplying either way. It doesn't matter which order you do that.

[Shinazueli]

Really? If the individual class boosts and the alliance boosts are applied on the base stats, rather than boost on boost, the results would be quite different right?

Allow me to explain. Or better yet, google that for you: http://www.mathematicsdictionary.com/english/vmd/full/c/vepropertyofmultiplication.htm

[mtlfce]

It's basically a 5% boost to your attack stat, disregarding equipment.


Thanks Man! This awesome Dragon joined my army today

[steve_r]

Folks talking about multiplication.html are misunderstanding the question.
There's no indication that the alliance boost and class boosts are multiplied. Probably they are not.

[plavine]

I believe the frostbite is universal and remember it was placed in error very early in the last quest so many players already had one. For The really good weapons in heroic , warrior is the last one, I just got it.

[plavine]

I agree cannot afford the best sword going to get the good beast units for my guild now

[leek]

Folks talking about multiplication.html are misunderstanding the question.
There's no indication that the alliance boost and class boosts are multiplied. Probably they are not.

Thank you steve. Hard to find people who understand the real question. I have an example to illustrate what I mean for those who do not understand the question.

Say I have a Base Attack (Unboosted) : 10,000 (all from infantry units)
Infantry Boost: 15%
Alliance Boost: 10%
Does the boosted attack equate to:
10,000*10% + 10,000*15% + 10,000 = 12,500 OR
10,000*110%*115% = 12,650

You can tell, the results are different and I do not need someone to tell me A x B = B x A. I understand that perfectly.

[Shinazueli]

You are asking the question incorrectly is why. The correct question is: are the bonuses additive or multiplicative. And as far as I can tell with limited data all of the % based bonuses are multiplicative and the +x bonuses are additive. Don't blame us for your lack of vocabulary.

[leek]

Not everyone speaks English as their first language. You do not have to be so mean.


You are asking the question incorrectly is why. The correct question is: are the bonuses additive or multiplicative. And as far as I can tell with limited data all of the % based bonuses are multiplicative and the +x bonuses are additive. Don't blame us for your lack of vocabulary.

[Jihme]

Are the weapon/armor rewards for classes (other than your own) a complete waste? Or can they be used by your army?

[JPNy]

They are used by your army.

[jonny0284]

Are the weapon/armor rewards for classes (other than your own) a complete waste? Or can they be used by your army?

Never searched, did ya?

PS. Welcome to the forum. Your starter pack includes 5 free searches. You're very welcome.