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Tommy Two Toes
06-25-2013, 06:46 AM
I see a ton of players complaining about the current LTQ, and how it was designed to stop 'prehitting.'

1.) Gree is a for-profit company. I'm not sure when everyone forgot how capitalism works.

b.) Gree's priority is collecting gold, not making events easier for people to earn prizes without spending it.

iii.) Prehitting is pretty close to a glitch. This point is debatable, but some will agree, and it is definitely a gray area.

Finally) If you were going to exploit a workaround to spending gold on an event, why in the world would you discuss it in a forum where you know Gree employees *have* to read each post?


In summary:

http://www.imcharmingyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/You-are-so-dumb-you-are-really-dumb-fo-real.jpeg

Regards,
TTT

Chica
06-25-2013, 06:55 AM
Well I am going to go hide.

BigMoney
06-25-2013, 06:56 AM
Prehitting is not a glitch at all, that's ridiculous. If you spend the time, energy, and eat the XP cost to prehit all maps, you deserve to have an advantage.

Dipstik
06-25-2013, 07:00 AM
Sure it's not a glitch. But it's clearly not the way the event was intended to work, so quit whining when Gree finds a way to work around it. Now shut the hell up about it because the more people doing it, the harder Gree's going to work to fix it.

edit: chuckled at "exp cost." Campers should be shot.

Chica
06-25-2013, 07:13 AM
Well prehitting gets you through normal fast still have the climb of elite if they repeat quests if they change them up in elite gree is just helping prehitters more.

BigMoney
06-25-2013, 07:29 AM
Sure it's not a glitch. But it's clearly not the way the event was intended to work, so quit whining when Gree finds a way to work around it. Now shut the hell up about it because the more people doing it, the harder Gree's going to work to fix it.

edit: chuckled at "exp cost." Campers should be shot.

The whole notion that GREE acts rationally in anything is ridiculous. Okay, so here's a new LTQ that involves massive energy costs even to complete the normal mode (which is as far as a free player could feasibly get, I believe) for an awful 255/210 prize, uses a lot of expensive single hit buildings and late map multi-hit buildings that aren't likely to be prehit, etc., which are all factors that should benefit gold players (or screw free players, depending on your perspective). So what better way to reward all these gold players than by offering the worst LTQ prizes yet?


To your other point, I'm not a camper at all, but I'm starting to level high enough that it affects my ability to score IP in syndicate wars. I could light up someone who was, say, level 212 and 269k defense for an average of 425 IP/attack, but I would only average 400 IP/attack on some level 198. So I'm not camping in the slightest, but it's actually a reasonable question to ask if I want to level up 5-6 levels in exchange for a ~20-30k stat boost.

maraudermat
06-25-2013, 08:07 AM
dumbest event ever & dumbest thread ever.

You design an event for gold spending, then give the worst rewards of any previous LTQ. Bite off the hand that feeds you. It's not very clever by Gree at all and neither is your post.

Dipstik
06-25-2013, 08:16 AM
First couple ltqs had ridiculous prizes. This is more in line with historical norms. Rare boss prize for every level you complete beyond 30 or so.

murf
06-25-2013, 09:00 AM
First couple ltqs had ridiculous prizes. This is more in line with historical norms. Rare boss prize for every level you complete beyond 30 or so.

Dippy...I find myself agreeing with you more and more these days...I'm starting to get a bit worried.

murf
06-25-2013, 09:02 AM
dumbest event ever & dumbest thread ever.

You design an event for gold spending, then give the worst rewards of any previous LTQ. Bite off the hand that feeds you. It's not very clever by Gree at all and neither is your post.

There's a modifier in this LTQ...guys spend vault after vault in order to get similar modifiers in collect 10 events. Here with less then a single vault, you get 20+ items and a modifier. Doesn't sound that bad to me....

Chica
06-25-2013, 09:04 AM
Or no vault at all. Elite 9 is easily doable without any gold

murf
06-25-2013, 09:09 AM
Or no vault at all. Elite 9 is easily doable without any gold

Only if you've prehit all the maps...It takes nearly 70k of energy and you only have ~5 days to complete it. Most haven't prehit all the way up to Little San Juan.

BigMoney
06-25-2013, 09:14 AM
Or no vault at all. Elite 9 is easily doable without any gold

73,000 energy in 5 days is "easily doable"? With the class bonus of 10% faster energy regen, that's ~200 energy/hour, which is 4800 energy/day, or 24,000 energy over 5 days. Even those with +5 energy modifiers instead of +3 get ~330 energy/hour, which is 7,920 energy/day or 39,600 energy over 5 days. Good luck having those later maps like the Hospitality District, Hillcrest, Packer Heights, Little San Juan, etc., all pre-hit.

Chica
06-25-2013, 09:30 AM
I guess we shall see if I make it then

Phil C
06-25-2013, 01:45 PM
I guess we shall see if I make it then

Keep us updated!

bald zeemer
06-25-2013, 02:00 PM
A step back from stat inflation. Its actually a good thing.

Dipstik
06-25-2013, 03:04 PM
Dippy...I find myself agreeing with you more and more these days...I'm starting to get a bit worried.

I'm lulling you into complacency

Chica
06-25-2013, 09:51 PM
Going to come down to leveling. I have mostly energy so it helps. And I probably shouldn't have said easily but is doable. But now that I look at it with level I'll be just short and I'm not spending gold so I'm going back to prestaging as the items up to that point are not worth it to me.

Sharky Finn
06-25-2013, 10:16 PM
Only if you've prehit all the maps

Does that still work? A friend said he prehit but when this event started everything was reset. I never tried.

Chica
06-25-2013, 10:33 PM
It works but this time they switched things up and went to high end maps which most have not prehit or had just started to prehit

BigMoney
06-25-2013, 10:51 PM
It works but this time they switched things up and went to high end maps which most have not prehit or had just started to prehit

There's a weird... "glitch" where some of your pre-hit jobs get reset. I thought I was going crazy at first and misremembering jobs that I prehit, but I'm not the only one with this issue. I doubt this is a glitch that GREE would work too hard to fix.

Rastas
06-26-2013, 01:39 AM
edit: chuckled at "exp cost." Campers should be shot.

OMG For the first time ever I actually agree with something you say. The end of the world must be coming!

nickdpro99
06-26-2013, 05:48 AM
I see a ton of players complaining about the current LTQ, and how it was designed to stop 'prehitting.'

1.) Gree is a for-profit company. I'm not sure when everyone forgot how capitalism works.

b.) Gree's priority is collecting gold, not making events easier for people to earn prizes without spending it.

iii.) Prehitting is pretty close to a glitch. This point is debatable, but some will agree, and it is definitely a gray area.

Finally) If you were going to exploit a workaround to spending gold on an event, why in the world would you discuss it in a forum where you know Gree employees *have* to read each post?


In summary:

http://www.imcharmingyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/You-are-so-dumb-you-are-really-dumb-fo-real.jpeg

Regards,
TTT

I swear this is the most pathetic meme I've ever seen all my life.

Dipstik
06-26-2013, 05:53 AM
I swear this is the most pathetic meme I've ever seen all my life.

You haven't seen much.

nickdpro99
06-26-2013, 05:56 AM
You haven't seen much.
I have man, but I really dislike the dudes face. :P
It makes no sense.

Dipstik
06-26-2013, 06:39 AM
I have man, but I really dislike the dudes face. :P
It makes no sense.

Racist.

#smug

nickdpro99
06-26-2013, 08:01 AM
Racist.

#smug

I don't like his expression. I'm dark skinned you nugget. Why would I be racist.
#bad #expression.

Dipstik
06-26-2013, 08:08 AM
Are you saying only white people can be racist?

Racist.

cditti
06-26-2013, 08:36 AM
Can't we just all get along...

Phil C
06-26-2013, 09:17 AM
Originally Posted by nickdpro99
I have man, but I really dislike the dudes face. :P
It makes no sense.
Racist.

#smug

Originally Posted by murf
Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...


I think you mean facist!?!

nickdpro99
06-26-2013, 06:09 PM
Are you saying only white people can be racist?

Racist.

I'm saying that it would be ironical for me to be racist to this guy, since I'm nearly as dark as him. Leave it few people have the ability to understand implied meanings.

Dipstik
06-26-2013, 06:17 PM
I'm saying that it would be ironical for me to be racist to this guy, since I'm nearly as dark as him. Leave it few people have the ability to understand implied meanings.

So you're saying I'm supposed to understand the "implications" of your statements in the context of your race and assign different meanings to your words knowing that they're coming from a black man?

Funny... I think if I admitted to doing that on my own I'd be called a... wait for it...

"Racist."

This reminds me of why we have Rule 30...

dr007
06-26-2013, 07:04 PM
Preloading maps is a strategy. You do not have to use it. Besides, without too much energy on hand most players who did not invest skill points in energy will not be successful here. Events are happening one after another.

nickdpro99
06-27-2013, 02:23 AM
So you're saying I'm supposed to understand the "implications" of your statements in the context of your race and assign different meanings to your words knowing that they're coming from a black man?

Funny... I think if I admitted to doing that on my own I'd be called a... wait for it...

"Racist."

This reminds me of why we have Rule 30...

I'm saying you should have tried to. I'm not calling you a racist. I'm just saying people fail to be logical. And what's rule 30?

Dipstik
06-27-2013, 05:32 AM
I'm saying you should have tried to. I'm not calling you a racist. I'm just saying people fail to be logical. And what's rule 30?

Logical people don't read something and ask themselves what race the person writing it is. Racists do.

Tommy Two Toes
06-27-2013, 10:15 AM
Logical people don't read something and ask themselves what race the person writing it is. Racists do.

Just to clarify guys, I'm Caucasian.

Now carry on with your business, and don't concern yourselves with my lack of pigment, or my tendency to turn bright red after 5 minutes of direct sunlight--I'll be okay.

Dipstik
06-27-2013, 10:32 AM
Just to clarify guys, I'm Caucasian.

Now carry on with your business, and don't concern yourselves with my lack of pigment, or my tendency to turn bright red after 5 minutes of direct sunlight--I'll be okay.

I thought you were crustacean. See, that's what you get for making assumptions :)

Tommy Two Toes
06-27-2013, 11:38 AM
I thought you were crustacean. See, that's what you get for making assumptions :)

Touché. (That means touch me in French, I think).

nickdpro99
06-27-2013, 05:39 PM
Logical people don't read something and ask themselves what race the person writing it is. Racists do.

I'm saying that once I stated I'm dark, you should have understood that it would be ironical for me to racist you nugget. Your argument has no sense. Better have a good argument before you type some random stuff.

Chica
06-27-2013, 05:47 PM
I'm saying that once I stated I'm dark, you should have understood that it would be ironical for me to racist you nugget. Your argument has no sense. Better have a good argument before you type some random stuff.

Can you stop with the racism it offends me.

Dipstik
06-27-2013, 05:51 PM
I'm saying that once I stated I'm dark, you should have understood that it would be ironical for me to racist you nugget. Your argument has no sense. Better have a good argument before you type some random stuff.

I said something not knowing or caring what color your skin is. You told me, expecting my opinion of what you said should change based on that information. MLK is probably spinning in his grave...

Tommy Two Toes
06-27-2013, 06:36 PM
Better have a good argument before you type some random stuff.

This forum would have tumbleweeds if that were a rule.

http://8-bitzombie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMT00101.jpg
It was the best of times, it was the "blurst" of times!?!?!?!

nickdpro99
06-28-2013, 12:50 AM
Leave it. Just leave it.