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johnny boy phd
06-21-2013, 10:50 AM
Dear all,

It seems we are having lots of scattered information regarding the recent changes in boss health. Some people say it got easier, some other say it became more difficult.

Yesterday megaants reported this on the loot tracker (extremelly useful info btw):


Tier 50-75
(...)
lvl 49
Cash Hit = 207k
Total - 20c x 207 = 4.14 mil +/- 200k

Lvl 50
Cash Hit = 207k
35c x 207 = 7.245 mil +/- 200k

well it got hard fast! gold spend = 60


Note that the reported health of boss #50 for tier #3 is 3.8 million. megaants reports it at 4.14 million for #49 and 7.245 million for #50. It seems that this dramatic increase at #50 is a new feature of the event, and it is remarkably different of all levels before where one can take down the boss with usually +1 attack than the previous one.

So, my reason to start this thread is to attempt to sum up the collected information on the loot tracker and try to predict my outcome particularly in regard to gold needed. It has been reported that the health of boss #50 almost doubles in comparison with boss #49, and at least from my previous experience with last boss (on tier #1 though), I didn't get that feel. I am trying to figure how much gold I might have to spend going for #50, and hopefully none up until #49. The reported heath of boss #50 in my tier is 1.67 million, so if the health was the same as before, I would take down boss #50 with 21 hits (i.e., with 1 health pack).

Basically, the info for levels 45 through 50 that would be appreciated would be (i include mine as an example):

- tier: #2, lvls 26-50
- cash attack: approx 81k,
- #46: down with 16 cash hits, approx 1,296,000
- #47: ? (will work on it this afternoon, predict 17)
- #48: ? (maybe 1 health pack)
- #49: ? (maybe another health pack)
- #50: ? (hopefully not many health packs)

I am positive other players in different tiers will benefit from this information as well. I would really appreciate input from other players who have succeeded with #50. Thanks and good luck

johnny boy phd
06-21-2013, 10:55 AM
another useful report on the last tier:


LV177
Free Hit Damage = 466328
Cash Hit Damage = 696158

(...)

49) 36C & 2F - Common (Icebreaker)
50) 55C - Rare (Avalanche Commando)



Reported health: 38 million
#49: 25.99 million
#50: 38.29 million

Thus, not many changes here

johnny boy phd
06-21-2013, 11:01 AM
another report on tier #4:


I'm in the 75-100 bracket, and near the top of the curve stats wise. Boss 49 took 12 cash hits. Boss 50 required 3 medpacks on top of my normal hits. That seems like a ridiculous jump. I feel sorry for players with "average" stats.


I'm not exactly sure of the number of hits, since I didn't bother writing it down, but working backwards, the 76-100 lvl 50 boss now has north of 9.5mil health.

reported health was 5.64 million

johnny boy phd
06-21-2013, 11:03 AM
tier #5, reported health was 4.9 million


Hey all, finished the boss last night and have a couple of observations:
- boss 1-49 were relatively easy, with boss 49 having around 9m health.
- boss 50 had around double the health of boss 49, about 18m.
- this makes my usual farming of boss 51+ very laborious, and I'll probably not do it.

I am at level 148, and slightly disappointed not to be going for 100+ bosses like usual.

Lt. Falcon
06-21-2013, 11:24 AM
Tier 4 Lvl 76-100

north of 9.5 mil health....I wish!! It took my LLP Lift Ticket 32 mid level "cash" hits to beat with attack stats of 361k putting Boss 50 health at around or just above 11.5 million.

Thief
06-21-2013, 11:25 AM
It is certainly a collective effort of being collected.

The good news is its better for everyone...for the most part. There are some changes that make it worse (like the 4th and 5th tiers it appears)

For Example 38 Million for the 151+ tier is on par with what it was...but now you only have to worry about spending gold on #50 instead of around lvl 40 (if thats where you were spending gold before)

Hopefully more info gets posted on the loot tracker so we can confirm all of the numbers.

Lt. Falcon
06-21-2013, 11:34 AM
Tier 4 Lvl 76-100

north of 9.5 mil health....I wish!! It took my LLP Lift Ticket 32 mid level "cash" hits to beat with attack stats of 361k putting Boss 50 health at around or just above 11.5 million.


It is certainly a collective effort of being collected.

The good news is its better for everyone...for the most part. There are some changes that make it worse (like the 4th and 5th tiers it appears)

For Example 38 Million for the 151+ tier is on par with what it was...but now you only have to worry about spending gold on #50 instead of around lvl 40 (if thats where you were spending gold before)

Hopefully more info gets posted on the loot tracker so we can confirm all of the numbers.

I was reading about the changes and documented my hits for boss's 49 & 50. LLP is at lvl 97 with 361k attack

Boss 49 took 18 cash hits which puts the health at 6.5mil
Boss 50 took 32 cash hits which puts the health at or just above 11.5mil

Hope this info helps

johnny boy phd
06-21-2013, 07:21 PM
worked out on #47, 17 hits as predicted but thought was not hitting enough so added a few demolitions (my best buy now) and a couple units from this PvP LTQ. then worked on #48, took 19 hits through a lvl up.

now waiting for some boost buildings upgrade to take down #49 with a health pack, and then #50 with another lvl up and some more health packs.

it would be great if anybody could report boss 50 health on my tier

Zonfry
06-21-2013, 09:37 PM
Boss Tier Level 51-75 about 240k-243k damage (increasing slowly)

Boss 46 10 hits 2.4 million total damage
Boss 47 11 hits 2.64 million total damage
Boss 48 13 hits 3.133 million total damage
Boss 49 15 hits 3.615 million total damage
Boss 50 30 hits 7.29 million total damage

Last event in this tier boss 50 was 17 cash hits for me with I thought about 160k damage so yeah, a bit of buffage for bosses 46 and up.

mjshearn7
06-22-2013, 05:40 AM
I just defeated boss 49 at this level and I had to hit 21 times at 191k(approx. 4million). It is weird seeing the varied boss health for same level




Boss Tier Level 51-75 about 240k-243k damage (increasing slowly)

Boss 46 10 hits 2.4 million total damage
Boss 47 11 hits 2.64 million total damage
Boss 48 13 hits 3.133 million total damage
Boss 49 15 hits 3.615 million total damage
Boss 50 30 hits 7.29 million total damage

Last event in this tier boss 50 was 17 cash hits for me with I thought about 160k damage so yeah, a bit of buffage for bosses 46 and up.

Zonfry
06-22-2013, 06:40 AM
I just defeated boss 49 at this level and I had to hit 21 times at 191k(approx. 4million). It is weird seeing the varied boss health for same level

It could be i missed a round of hits, another 400k or from 2 hits would match your total. I am pretty certain on boss 50, but the other bosses i may be a small amount out in hits.

Bicsi
06-22-2013, 07:04 AM
I'm just finished with the boss lvl50 in tier 100-150 and:
level 48 has 8,5 million HP
level 49 has 9,8 million HP
level 50 has 17,3 million HP

Dutchie
06-22-2013, 01:35 PM
Now they have moved the goal posts for boss 50. This game has become a joke now as they tweak it to gain as much cash out of every event. The jump from 49 to 50 is ridiculous.

Dutchie
06-22-2013, 03:08 PM
Just to let people know, I defeated the 50th boss in the last event for free, but not in this one. It required an extra 20 hits between boss 49 and 50. It stair steps all the way to boss 49 and then suddenly boss 50 requires another 20 hits! You need a bloody lift! I am now level 71, so this is tier 3. GREE don't even pre-warn to say it has been changed, so you don't know until you find out for yourself. This is not on, this is wrong!

I am out of here... This is the final straw for me. Nice knowing you all. Goodbye!

Evil Mastermind
06-22-2013, 03:33 PM
Constantly changing the dynamics of the game to squeeze money from the players. Smart move Dutchie!

Dkaell
06-22-2013, 03:43 PM
Boss Tier Level 51-75 about 240k-243k damage (increasing slowly)

Boss 46 10 hits 2.4 million total damage
Boss 47 11 hits 2.64 million total damage
Boss 48 13 hits 3.133 million total damage
Boss 49 15 hits 3.615 million total damage
Boss 50 30 hits 7.29 million total damage

Last event in this tier boss 50 was 17 cash hits for me with I thought about 160k damage so yeah, a bit of buffage for bosses 46 and up.

It took me 61 hits for Boss 50 in tier 3 at 120,500 per so about 7.3 mil. My first time in this tier and i was expecting much less boss 50 health

Usual suspect
06-22-2013, 03:49 PM
Yes boss 50 is way stronger then before, I'm at level 122 with 280k attack and it cost me 160gold to drop boss 50

johnny boy phd
06-23-2013, 12:21 PM
boss #49 down with 21 cash hits of approx. average of 87k

that makes his health around 1.82 million, slightly above than previously reported health of boss 50 at 1.67 million

LoveAndPeace
06-23-2013, 01:51 PM
Yes, the jump from 49 to 50 feels like doubled strength ..

I'm lvl 98 with 190k attack raw stats..
I did exactly HALF the way..
With rghly 7 million cash and 80 GOLD !!

For HALF the way :((

Us Army
06-23-2013, 02:05 PM
Just to let people know, I defeated the 50th boss in the last event for free, but not in this one. It required an extra 20 hits between boss 49 and 50. It stair steps all the way to boss 49 and then suddenly boss 50 requires another 20 hits! You need a bloody lift! I am now level 71, so this is tier 3. GREE don't even pre-warn to say it has been changed, so you don't know until you find out for yourself. This is not on, this is wrong!

I am out of here... This is the final straw for me. Nice knowing you all. Goodbye!

Same here lvl 73 beat the boss for cash hits last time ...
This event...boss lvl 49 cash hits and one gold refill
Boss lvl 50 cash + 7 gold refills

Big O
06-23-2013, 02:05 PM
If anybody has beaten #50 in tier 2, can they post what the heath was?

johnny boy phd
06-23-2013, 02:50 PM
boss #50 down! took 30 cash hits and 3 free hits, for a grand total of approximately 2.8 million health. 80 gold spent

ladyfizz27
06-23-2013, 03:26 PM
I'm level 116. Boss #49 took 23 cash hit. Boss #50 took 50 cash hits, that's quite a jump. I had to use 5 medipacks :(

BigD@wg
06-23-2013, 04:00 PM
I'm level 116. Boss #49 took 23 cash hit. Boss #50 took 50 cash hits, that's quite a jump. I had to use 5 medipacks :(

Very similar experience. Boss 49 took 1 medpack for me. Boss 50 took 6 medpacks. Thankful forthe free Gree gold for the non-working boost units from the LTQ :D

Sir fisher
06-24-2013, 01:30 AM
Hi when you say tier#1-#5 is that for different levels of the boss or is it a next lot of 50 and can now come it is harder the higher your level

mgriss
06-24-2013, 08:06 AM
Yes, ladies and gentlemen... the last event where free players who camp/crawl could do well and become better-than-average is now officially dead. So marks the end of an era. Either get out your pocketbooks or quit.

fkamb
06-25-2013, 04:01 PM
Did anyone file a complaint on the health of boss 50 at customer service? I was thinking about it, but maybe some people have already done that and got an answer.

RobertoP
06-26-2013, 04:53 AM
One of my favourite parts of this game has always been the Boss events but not after the last one.

I completed the 50th Boss before Madagascar with just money hits and I'm still in the same Tier so as I'd increased my stats considerably since then I was expecting an easy ride. To help speed things up I used 20 gold on level 49 and decided to use 60 gold (3 medipacks) on Boss 50 as I was busy. After 20 hits I was totally shocked at how little damage I had done to the boss and at the very end I had to use another 60 gold to complete it.

The dynamics of this game have changed and all the fun, skill and challenging elements are slowly being erased. I hope this was just another error which will be rectified for the next boss.

keeskiller
06-26-2013, 04:56 AM
One of my favourite parts of this game has always been the Boss events but not after the last one.

I completed the 50th Boss before Madagascar with just money hits and I'm still in the same Tier so as I'd increased my stats considerably since then I was expecting an easy ride. To help speed things up I used 20 gold on level 49 and decided to use 60 gold (3 medipacks) on Boss 50 as I was busy. After 20 hits I was totally shocked at how little damage I had done to the boss and at the very end I had to use another 60 gold to complete it.

The dynamics of this game have changed and all the fun, skill and challenging elements are slowly being erased. I hope this was just another error which will be rectified for the next boss.

to bad, but don't think so, allmost double energy needed on the LTQ in stead of the gone Rogue.. so think that is part of the game..

StefvdS
06-26-2013, 07:17 AM
I've got a few question regarding the boss event.
Maybe some of the experienced players can give me some advice.

I want to play the boss event again in Tier 1.

I'm lvl 25 with 24K attack and 27K defence.

Untill recently i did not play in a faction...now I joined a top 800 faction.

Now I wonder if I am going to lvl up to 26 in the upcoming battle.

I am only going to hit the wall but do I also get EXP for the battles I win by getting attacked?

Ive got 500 EXP left before I reach level 26..

So my question is should i participate in the battle or not?:D

Hope this makes sense to anyone!

Greetz and thanks :)