View Full Version : [Danger] The Deva - June 19th - June 26th
The Wise One
06-19-2013, 05:27 PM
Attention Knights!
The Dark Prince has just unleashed a new boss that's approaching your castle walls fast! Defeat The Deva to collect keys, items, gems, and a Limited Edition armor set! The Deva will be here for a limited time only, so act now!
Find and deal bonus damage using the nemesis armor set and compete in the Damage Leaderboards for a chance to win even more rewards.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/32e65b1f5166a4333c3f9b917b0db308_zps0193b2d6.png
Ceius
06-19-2013, 05:32 PM
this epic boss armor is better then the dark prince+?
D3athShade
06-19-2013, 05:33 PM
First! And this boss looks awesome :D (can't see the elements the boss has since i'm on my cellphone, i'm guessing Fire/Spirit? )
Mike Stanley
06-19-2013, 05:34 PM
I don't know but this armor looks Beast!! By the looks of it I think it is dual-wield too
hlw_rocer
06-19-2013, 05:35 PM
i think this is better than the captain fire spirit also
well, time to stop leveling my dark prince.
Gabzor89
06-19-2013, 05:38 PM
Hi, I noticed that the boss has a somewhat higher attack compared to other bosses. However, it was only level 9 before I realised that. Could someone check out the attack stats for the first 8 levels?
Here are the difference in stats, given in the format (att/def):
Boss Level Normal Boss Current Boss
9 282/272 373/272
10 326/315 495/315
11 317/308 469/308
12 334/323 521/323
13 352/339 578/339
Okay, the attack is more than 'somewhat' higher. Don't be surprised if you have to add knights sooner than usual!
JonS52
06-19-2013, 05:44 PM
Hoping someone will post stats on this armor soon. Wasn't able to get Admirals + looking for a replacement.
TIA
Necrobrood
06-19-2013, 05:46 PM
First! And this boss looks awesome :D (can't see the elements the boss has since i'm on my cellphone, i'm guessing Fire/Spirit? )
you guess right :o
Bryanv2
06-19-2013, 05:53 PM
Hi, I noticed that the boss has a somewhat higher attack compared to other bosses. However, it was only level 9 before I realised that. Could someone check out the attack stats for the first 8 levels?
Here are the difference in stats, given in the format (att/def):
Boss Level Normal Boss Current Boss
9 282/272 373/272
10 326/315 495/315
11 317/308 469/308
12 334/323 521/323
13 352/339 578/339
Okay, the attack is more than 'somewhat' higher. Don't be surprised if you have to add knights sooner than usual!
Hah. I JUST discovered that also. One knight was doing perfectly fine until at level 10 the boss seemed to get a huge atk buff. Also the stats are like 1200/1000~ from what i saw.
Justice711
06-19-2013, 05:54 PM
Totally surprise with the elements... Thought it will be somerthing else... Guess GREE is still doing a good job in surprising us...
Alexa
06-19-2013, 06:04 PM
Not complaining about the boss, because I like the armour and the nemesis as well... But... WHEN ARE YOU GUYS GOINA PUT AN AIR/WATER OR AIR/SPIRIT BOSS!?!
Okay. Thank you. :)
Aradan
06-19-2013, 06:04 PM
i was hoping for a air/spirit replacement, oh well
Raistmar
06-19-2013, 06:05 PM
Totally surprise with the elements... Thought it will be somerthing else... Guess GREE is still doing a good job in surprising us...
Actually if you look at the nemesis that has been released since jian it was wind, fire, earth, spr. So it makes sense that the next nemesis would be water. Not really suprised with this one.
And yeah the boss has a major attack boost and the nemesis armor has very low defense, it will be eaten in the higher levels. So I'm guessing mid event nemesis special lol.
Genocide788
06-19-2013, 06:19 PM
Oh well, They did give us the option of leveling our guilds elements just before they released Deva.
Jordon1992
06-19-2013, 07:28 PM
I was so hopeing for fire spirt aha mad happy
awkonaman
06-19-2013, 07:31 PM
The boss and its armor is so freaking cool. Goodjob Gree.
DefinedFear
06-19-2013, 07:32 PM
What's the best elements to use against this boss?
Roark
06-19-2013, 07:32 PM
yeah, kinda nice to get jackalope gear and this week's armor before leveling swamp or even synthing DP/+, I'm still 6/20 on evil jewels
Nieriel
06-19-2013, 07:45 PM
I have AA+ maxed and have already gotten to level 10 with that alone. I also got flamestorm finery maxed and Nemesis soon to be maxed. I hope to have a few high level friends with Nemesis so I can earn lvl 43 and get the Pyro Mantle at + with little to no Gem Spending.
I have said this before, but this is the first time I think I can make it honestly.
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Raistmar
06-19-2013, 08:06 PM
I have AA+ maxed and have already gotten to level 10 with that alone. I also got flamestorm finery maxed and Nemesis soon to be maxed. I hope to have a few high level friends with Nemesis so I can earn lvl 43 and get the Pyro Mantle at + with little to no Gem Spending.
I have said this before, but this is the first time I think I can make it honestly.
Code XBB-PZF-BCZ
Max out HH+ will make your life a lot easier.
Dexavus
06-19-2013, 08:26 PM
I have AA+ maxed and have already gotten to level 10 with that alone. I also got flamestorm finery maxed and Nemesis soon to be maxed. I hope to have a few high level friends with Nemesis so I can earn lvl 43 and get the Pyro Mantle at + with little to no Gem Spending.
I have said this before, but this is the first time I think I can make it honestly.
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At level 15 this boss's attack takes a huge jump, at level 16 it's already over 700 which I believe is higher than last weeks level 60 boss, I didn't get there so I could be wrong, good luck regardless!
D3athShade
06-19-2013, 08:26 PM
Max out HH+ will make your life a lot easier.
I'm level 66 with maxed AA+ and Hydra +, do you think i can make it to 43.? I have a few lvl 100 + in my friend list aswel. I never got to 43 (always stopped after 21 since the armors werent so appealing )
lekshooting
06-19-2013, 08:42 PM
I'm level 66 with maxed AA+ and Hydra +, do you think i can make it to 43.? I have a few lvl 100 + in my friend list aswel. I never got to 43 (always stopped after 21 since the armors werent so appealing )
In my experience it'll be hard for you. You must concentrate to reach lv 100 as fast as you can.The 43th kill will be easy as candy for you.
Raistmar
06-19-2013, 09:38 PM
I'm level 66 with maxed AA+ and Hydra +, do you think i can make it to 43.? I have a few lvl 100 + in my friend list aswel. I never got to 43 (always stopped after 21 since the armors werent so appealing )
Not with this boss. It's atk is increasing way too much each level.
BethMo
06-19-2013, 09:54 PM
3720
Graph of how this boss's attack value is increasing per level, compared to normal boss and Jian. (But the Jian's defense also was extra high... this boss has the same defense as normal.) All three have the same hitpoints at each level, at least as far as I've seen.
Aradan
06-19-2013, 10:14 PM
get out your tank armors for this...wish i maxed flame summoners but haven't even made + version yet :(
Genocide788
06-19-2013, 10:41 PM
While i understand that Gree may have done this due to the ability we now have to increase elements i feel this might have been too soon. We had a leeway of just 1 day. How are the average guilds going to keep up?
amir1974
06-19-2013, 10:43 PM
i have the AA+ maxed and Swamp + . am using the Swamp shaman + because of the boost attack it gives , passed lvl 15 boss with no difficulties at all , plus in our Guild we purchased the boosts for this boss too , and it makes a real huge difference in attack , i Think you ought to buy the Guild boosts and upgrade them and all bosses will be like a promenade in the park .
cheers from Sweden
Amir , proud Guild master of The Holy Crusade, tons of boosts and very nice ppl :)
for more info check my thread in recruitment page .
Thx
D3athShade
06-20-2013, 01:00 AM
In my experience it'll be hard for you. You must concentrate to reach lv 100 as fast as you can.The 43th kill will be easy as candy for you.
Well i just beated lvl 10 and had more then half of my hp left :) i really hope i can get to 43 with help from my friends :)
Please if someone with nemesis could help me, i'd be eternally grateful, i really want to get to lvl 43 on this boss, armor looks sooooooo sweet.
Please help! :3
Thanks
Genocide788
06-20-2013, 01:27 AM
Well i just beated lvl 10 and had more then half of my hp left :) i really hope i can get to 43 with help from my friends :)
Please if someone with nemesis could help me, i'd be eternally grateful, i really want to get to lvl 43 on this boss, armor looks sooooooo sweet.
Please help! :3
Thanks
IMO Nemisis is not going to be a big help on this one, esp at the higher levels. I tried using 1 friend with Nemesis and he got mowed down quickly enough for me to prioritize Jian over Nemesis friends.
GCSpyder
06-20-2013, 02:06 AM
Very informative chart. Thanx Bethmo!
Alexa
06-20-2013, 02:53 AM
This week's boss armor takes about **3** days to craft...
Is this going to be the start of a new trend ? Because that is a long time and I don't want to wait for my armor smith to open again for three days...
maple1736
06-20-2013, 04:30 AM
This is getting really annoying! The boss has att (1100+) that is like 2 times+ of def (400+!!) just at level 24!! I bet the amount of players will get to level 43 will be at least 50% less! For that Jian armor it was at least 2X rewards but this time the bonus players get through guild will never compensate that. No problems for high level players like me with good armors but kinda feels sorry for those lower levels...
Raistmar
06-20-2013, 04:32 AM
i have the AA+ maxed and Swamp + . am using the Swamp shaman + because of the boost attack it gives , passed lvl 15 boss with no difficulties at all , plus in our Guild we purchased the boosts for this boss too , and it makes a real huge difference in attack , i Think you ought to buy the Guild boosts and upgrade them and all bosses will be like a promenade in the park .
cheers from Sweden
Amir , proud Guild master of The Holy Crusade, tons of boosts and very nice ppl :)
for more info check my thread in recruitment page .
Thx
Was that a solo run? Or you used both shaman and aa?
Bryanv2
06-20-2013, 04:33 AM
Yea I think I'm just going for level 15 armor again. I know its bad bla without a + but I might at least use it to fusion or for collection. Last time I got a Boilplate from the fusion <:
He does seem to be very strong ATK wise so I unfortunately can't reach higher
edit: Oh yea the guild bonuses, they actually help versus the boss right? thats useful
Gabzor89
06-20-2013, 04:33 AM
I think it's not gonna be so easy for us high level players as well. At level 21 the damage of the boss is higher than it was for Jian already, and the attack goes up at a higher rate than Jian did, so it will only get worse. The only mitigating factor is that its defense remains at the same level as a normal boss, but I can imagine our Knights getting knocked out in 3 or 4 hits around level 30+, even with maxed armors
Raistmar
06-20-2013, 04:39 AM
They like throwing a curve ball every end of the month ie jian. Hope it's just like that and this is not the new trend.
From the graph Beth provided you can easily see how the dmg escalates lol. Obviously the regular nemesis armor would be useless for this boss in the later levels.
Bearsuo
06-20-2013, 04:44 AM
AR+ has been carrying me through a lot of battles - Deva's armor is AR without the weakness of low defense. IMO worth being a stretch goal - the armor itself is a better reward than average.
Raistmar
06-20-2013, 04:51 AM
AR+ has been carrying me through a lot of battles - Deva's armor is AR without the weakness of low defense. IMO worth being a stretch goal - the armor itself is a better reward than average.
You can say the same for jackalope if you compare it to the next best water/earth combo, but as you can see the boss was pretty manageable.
Edcculus
06-20-2013, 05:51 AM
Well I was excited when I saw this armor...but with what everyone is saying Guess I'll have to wait longer to make it to the + version of a boss armor!
FWIW, Im lvl 55 with maxed AA+ and a L44 Living Flame + (those are my best armors so far), and have made it to the boss level 13 by just using those 2. I think I just used my AA+ up until about level 9 or 10
I think even for people who have no chance of getting to level 43 to get the + version, doing this is still worth it. If I make it to level 21 and don't spend many gems, I've gained 3 regular keys, 21 peices of armor that can be used to upgrade my existing armor, a little gold and a fusion stone. Plus, I'll maybe just craft the armor and use it in a fusion or to upgrade existing armor?
Nieriel
06-20-2013, 11:22 AM
Max out HH+ will make your life a lot easier.
I was thinking about that ... my Jian is not + so I was thinking of maxing HH+ instead. Since I got a good second opinion that will be the way to go.
IrisAtlast
06-20-2013, 03:20 PM
Can anyone help me with nemesis? >_<
Nick1224
06-20-2013, 06:28 PM
Hey guys feel free to add me, lvl 89 with soon to be maxed nemesis! XBB-NMG-FFH
Deman
06-20-2013, 06:31 PM
Hey guys just wanted to let anyone who is insterested know that i have rageborne raiment on for the boss and it is hitting very well. I am level 90 code XBB-HNM-ZHB if anyone needs some help. I could also use some peeps with nemesis or HH+ or rageborne.
BethMo
06-20-2013, 06:36 PM
3725
Updated attack value graph.
GCSpyder
06-20-2013, 06:42 PM
interesting projection. I guess this is the worst case as we should expect some tapering.. Do you know how this would compare to the Jian monster?
hyperziz
06-20-2013, 06:44 PM
Boiler Plate pwn this boss
Roark
06-20-2013, 06:46 PM
interesting projection. I guess this is the worst case as we should expect some tapering.. Do you know how this would compare to the Jian monster?
you mean the green on the chart?
and it's good that a 10% increase is available to iOS users in the face of a 400% projected increase lol
Nieriel
06-20-2013, 08:28 PM
3725
Updated attack value graph.
Oh, that will make getting the + armor much more difficult for me...and here I thought that at lvl 77 I could just barely sneak in to win 43.
Jello
06-21-2013, 12:25 AM
Wow, I thought something was pretty messed up with attack from this boss. She hits hard.
Lvl 1-12 I have AA+ maxed on main and got through level 12 while at level 69 & 70.
Lvl 13 & 14 I had AA+ on main and maxed Crius+ on Earth.
Lvl 15 I had to add a 3rd knight with Mantle reg at level 50/70 and barely made it through.
Lvl 16 I changed from AA+ to Deva Nemesis which I leveled to 20 so far, and saw i hit from 1500-2000, but Deva was hitting me for 80, and that only gives my main 6 hits and he's out! Had to go a second time through and I used 3 gems on main for 3 extra SA's.
Lvl 17 I'm now level 72, used same 3 knights in 15/16 and I added 1 friend, so 4 knights, 75% bonus and I only took Deva down from 16k to 6k health. Added 2nd friend for 100% bonus and killed her.
Lvl 18 Unattempted yet
I missed the first 3 levels, but here is what I have for Deva through level 18:
Lvl/Health/Atk/Def
1
------ Reward
2
3
------ Reward
4/1880/192/172
5/2596/210/192
6/3312/241/212
------ Reward
7/4028/285 232
8/4744/329 252
9/5460/373 272
10/8042/495/315
------ Reward
11/7420/469/308
12/8664/521/323
13/10157/578/339
14/11650/635/354
15/18367/893/425
------ Reward
16/14635/749/386
17/16128/806/401
18/17621/863/417
19/19114/923/432
20/20606/983/448
21/23592/1103/479
------ Reward
22/22099/1043/464
23/22846/1073/471
24/23592/1103/479
25/24338/1133/487
26/24686/1159/492
27/25034/1185/498
28/26426/1288/519
------ Reward
29/25730/1236/509
I'm still fairly new to the game (started towards the end of Sasquatch and v1.2 screwed me up for a few days) and didn't know what armors were good or really what to do at the beginning. Been playing catchup ever since!
Raistmar
06-21-2013, 12:40 AM
... didn't know what armors were good or really what to do at the beginning. Been playing catchup ever since!
Just below the next button in the 'choosing knights phase' there's a button that shows you the elemental dynamics in this game. So try to remember that and apply it to everything. Not just monsters/boss/epic boss it also applies to pvp.
Since the boss is a fire/spirit you would want to choose an armor with a fire/water combination. Fire>spirit water>fire. This will do double the damage compared to using an armor with only single elemental bonus like air/water or fire/air it will on deal 50% more. You would also want to avoid anything with spirit or earth as the boss will have elemental advantage over you and deal more.
So I'd suggest getting a hydra armor as that is easiest obtainable fire/water.
Genocide788
06-21-2013, 01:33 AM
Wow, I thought something was pretty messed up with attack from this boss. She hits hard.
Lvl 1-12 I have AA+ maxed on main and got through level 12 while at level 69 & 70.
Lvl 13 & 14 I had AA+ on main and maxed Crius+ on Earth.
Lvl 15 I had to add a 3rd knight with Mantle reg at level 50/70 and barely made it through.
Lvl 16 I changed from AA+ to Deva Nemesis which I leveled to 20 so far, and saw i hit from 1500-2000, but Deva was hitting me for 80, and that only gives my main 6 hits and he's out! Had to go a second time through and I used 3 gems on main for 3 extra SA's.
Lvl 17 I'm now level 72, used same 3 knights in 15/16 and I added 1 friend, so 4 knights, 100% bonus and I only took Deva down from 16k to 6k health. I'm stuck here for right now.
I missed the first 3 levels, but here is what I have for Deva through level 17:
Lvl/Health/Atk/Def
1
------ Reward
2
3
------ Reward
4/1880/192/172
5/2596/210/192
6/3312/241/212
------ Reward
7/4028/285 232
8/4744/329 252
9/5460/373 272
10/8042/495/315
------ Reward
11/7420/469/308
12/8664/521/323
13/10157/578/339
14/11650/635/354
15/18367/893/425
------ Reward
16/14635/749/386
17/16128/806/401
I'm still fairly new to the game (started towards the end of Sasquatch and v1.2 screwed me up for a few days) and didn't know what armors were good or really what to do at the beginning. Been playing catchup ever since!
Add more higher level people around here, but be sure to send them a PM before hand or they might not accept. If you have HH+ then put it to use. You can use HH+/AA+ on main knight, and use 2 friends. I've cleared up till level 28 like this and i'm lvl 73.
Raistmar
06-21-2013, 05:50 AM
This should have better rewards compared to the regular bosses.
Mike Stanley
06-21-2013, 07:24 AM
That's what they did with Twin Jian I don't think they did with this bummer
Bryanv2
06-21-2013, 07:33 AM
Ohh
'14/11650/635/354
15/18367/893/425
------ Reward
16/14635/749/386
17/16128/806/401''
I Did not know that. That the boss gets weaker again at level 16 compared to level 15 for example. That gives me a bit more motivation to try to at least get the 21 boss reward
Jello
06-21-2013, 11:07 AM
@Bryanv2: Yup, it drops after each reward.
@ Raistmar & Genocide: Thanks for the help. I know a little about the element stuff, but I was looking at sheer Atk/Def on my knights instead of elements. I know that's not the way to do it and took your advice.
Level 18 & 19 - I put Rageborne Raiment (Fire/Water) lvl 47/50 on my Fire, AA+ on water knight, and Nemesis on main knight. Also added 2 friends for the added bonus, but had about 20% left on main knight at the end.
Waiting for energy to recharge then attempting level 20. I added stats for 18-20 on the previous page.
Bearsuo
06-21-2013, 12:23 PM
37
1443/552
28514
Wish I hadn't fused away my maxed HH+, but I was new and dumb
The last reward tier with 67 Jian+, AA+, AR+, a Jian and HH buddy was brutal. Pretty sure I'm stopping at 43
Deman
06-21-2013, 12:33 PM
I changed my boss battle gear from rageborne to HH+ due to the fact I just maxed HH+ and it has better stats than rageborne. Thanks to all people adding me to help me out. Hopefully this will be my first 43 but the way the attack is going it won't be easy.
Seriously, how much did they up the percentage chance on missing? In my last battle, almost half of my attacks were misses, its getting pretty ridiculous.
D3athShade
06-21-2013, 01:26 PM
sigh i was hoping i would get to 43 for the first time but this boss just annihilates my knights :( well i hope next boss is normal...
BethMo
06-21-2013, 02:01 PM
Since the boss is a fire/spirit you would want to choose an armor with a fire/water combination. Fire>spirit water>fire. This will do double the damage compared to using an armor with only single elemental bonus like air/water or fire/air it will on deal 50% more.
Just to clarify:
If an armor with no advantage (say, plain Earth) does 100 points per hit,
then an armor with the same stats with one advantage (say, Air+Water) will do 150 points,
an armor with the same stats with two advantages (Water+Fire) will do 200 points,
and a Nemesis with the same stats will do 450 points.
Hydra+ is by far the best choice of the easily-obtainable armors.
But of course, there's no such thing as a Nemesis with the same stats as maxed-out level 70 armors. A maxed-out Nemesis will do more damage per hit than a maxed-out Jian+, but it will die much faster due to low defense, so the Jian+ will do much more damage overall.
(Also, if you're in a guild with elemental bonuses, the Jian gets both water and fire bonuses while the Nemesis only gets water bonus, so the Jian gets even more of an edge.)
When arranging your knights, put the one with the lowest damage-per-hit in the first position. Since the boss swings first, your first knight will get to attack one fewer times before dying. Your other knights will get an extra swing before the boss hits them.
Maximous2.0
06-21-2013, 08:11 PM
I need some help with this boss. I'm at 25 atm and need some more higher level friends to help out. My code is XBC-GYF-NXV if you don't mind adding me :). Oh, and hi everyone, been lurking for awhile, finally made a forum account.
Archangel_rd
06-21-2013, 11:56 PM
I currently at 23 kills ... But I need some Nemesis friends help... Please add me
FlipDaddy
06-22-2013, 05:20 AM
Same here. I feel like my misses are going up in the arena and story modes too.
Seriously, how much did they up the percentage chance on missing? In my last battle, almost half of my attacks were misses, its getting pretty ridiculous.
lekshooting
06-22-2013, 05:53 AM
I currently at 23 kills ... But I need some Nemesis friends help... Please add me
Nemesis rather useless for this boss
Archangel_rd
06-22-2013, 08:22 AM
I think if u are taken along as a add a friend option in epic boss kill those friends with u should get a kill credit too
Musketeer
06-22-2013, 09:49 AM
Just to clarify:
If an armor with no advantage (say, plain Earth) does 100 points per hit,
then an armor with the same stats with one advantage (say, Air+Water) will do 150 points,
an armor with the same stats with two advantages (Water+Fire) will do 200 points,
and a Nemesis with the same stats will do 450 points.
In my noobness I really hadn't appreciated that you get a double whammy with two matching elements; that really does make the big four all that more powerful against suitable epic bosses, until you can get something better from an epic boss and hopefully craft a + version.
In Arena play of course, you do leave yourself open to a double whammy yourself if you're wearing these - better to get only 20% bonus and avoid the extra damage received.
BethMo
06-22-2013, 12:18 PM
3748
Updated graph. Level 43 Deva has 1701 attack; it will kill a maxed level 100 Jian+ in five hits and a Nemesis in 3 hits.
Looks like the level 60 will have over 2200 attack and kill a maxed Jian+ in three hits and a Nemesis in 2 hits.
BethMo
06-22-2013, 12:25 PM
In my noobness I really hadn't appreciated that you get a double whammy with two matching elements; that really does make the big four all that more powerful against suitable epic bosses, until you can get something better from an epic boss and hopefully craft a + version.
I didn't realize it myself until I'd been playing for over a month -- I thought it was just an on/off switch, advantage or no advantage. Then I started writing down damage numbers against one of the bosses so I could work out the formulas, and noticed that one of my basic four was doing more damage than a level 70 with higher attack value. It was quite an eye-opener!
Wdraizen
06-22-2013, 02:23 PM
I hope after this event everything should go back to normal because this boss is way too powerful and making nemesis useless.
fahartle
06-22-2013, 04:11 PM
Do we have the stats on Pyromancer's mantle yet? Once you know how much the stats increase for the first level, can you just multiply by 70 to get the final stat figures? Is it predictable like that?
jamiedmc
06-22-2013, 04:28 PM
well, multiply be 69, but yeah it is consistent like that.
Necrobrood
06-22-2013, 04:30 PM
Do we have the stats on Pyromancer's mantle yet? ...
knows the beginning stats for it cause i started crafting it last night and it says 371 att / 354 def in the armorsmith
Raistmar
06-23-2013, 12:59 AM
To the majority of players this boss event is a big fail. It's obvious gree is starting to push players into buying gems, clear example is lengthening boss armor crafting time.
Mike Stanley
06-23-2013, 05:22 AM
Yah just beat 35 and finished crafting my pyromancer
fahartle
06-23-2013, 06:16 AM
Has anyone crafted Pyromancers and then leveled it once so we can project it's final stats?
jamie tonks
06-23-2013, 06:46 AM
if anybody needs help beating deva add me xbc-zzy-hmq high level very active player!
Jello
06-23-2013, 08:07 AM
stats increase per level for pyro reg:
atk 9 def 7
Atk 992/ Def 837 = 1829 max
plus should be around 2300?
deathexe
06-23-2013, 08:23 AM
stats increase per level for pyro reg:
atk 9 def 7
Atk 992/ Def 837 = 1829 max
plus should be around 2300?
The max stats for the +version are already on the event boss page.
Musketeer
06-23-2013, 09:11 AM
Level 94, I've beaten Diva 33 times now but no hope of proceeding past 35 without using two powerful friends per battle.
Powerful = Hydra+ or preferably Jian+ armor and level 95+ or higher.
My code is xbb rmm xrw, please add me if you have a free slot
BileJAR
06-23-2013, 09:33 AM
This boss is intense holy crap.
I really would like the + armor. I'm level 90, I think I can do it, but with only a few days left, and I've never spent money on gems.....
I've only beaten it 17 times. lol.
And there's the 20% EE discount. Was to be expected, seeing the intensely high attack of this boss. Typical GREEd marketing.
Archangel_rd
06-23-2013, 01:29 PM
Yes I've killed it 33 times too.. But need all 5 knights to do it.. Anyone noticed this boss doesn't drop energy either.... Please add me for help XBB-CMV-MGC
BethMo
06-23-2013, 01:50 PM
Yes I've killed it 33 times too.. But need all 5 knights to do it.. Anyone noticed this boss doesn't drop energy either.... Please add me for help XBB-CMV-MGC
Actually, I've gotten more energy drops on this boss than on any previous -- drops at levels 3, 5, 16, 26, 28, 38, and 42. It seems to be random, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
Archangel_rd
06-23-2013, 02:29 PM
Actually, I've gotten more energy drops on this boss than on any previous -- drops at levels 3, 5, 16, 26, 28, 38, and 42. It seems to be random, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
Wow good for u I don't think I've gotten one after level 10
Yawsome
06-23-2013, 03:10 PM
I've got one at level 14
Howzee87
06-23-2013, 05:38 PM
I've gotten less Energy drops from this boss than the last, but I have got a few.
2 or 3 before level 15, and again ~25.
Currently up to 32 and hoping to make it to 43.
I have a number of powerful friends with Jian, Hydra, and Atlantean. It's just amatter of timing my work breaks so I can battle her every time I hit 10 energy for these last few days.
Don't want to spend my gems but this EE sale will tempt me :-/
Musketeer
06-23-2013, 05:53 PM
I've gotten less Energy drops from this boss than the last, but I have got a few.
2 or 3 before level 15, and again ~25.
Currently up to 32 and hoping to make it to 43.
I have a number of powerful friends with Jian, Hydra, and Atlantean. It's just amatter of timing my work breaks so I can battle her every time I hit 10 energy for these last few days.
Don't want to spend my gems but this EE sale will tempt me :-/
Or even 8 energy, since that's all you can spend in one fight.
Just got my 34th kill, and now confident of 35+ thanks to a few powerful new friends thanks to this thread and forum. You guys rock! 34th kill dropped 5 energy for me, so now only have to wait 1/2 hour for my 35th kill.
For the record the 35th Diva has 1494 att, 563 def, 29,210 hit points.
Raistmar
06-23-2013, 06:29 PM
Or even 8 energy, since that's all you can spend in one fight.
He wants to have 10 so just in case he couldn't finish it off he can have a second crack at it with 5 energy with 2 knights. Preferably your strongest armor and a strong friend if quite a bit of hp remains. There's a bunch of variation with this tactic, especially useful in the higher lvls of the boss.
Bearsuo
06-23-2013, 06:48 PM
47
1701/606
I didn't take down the HP - but she has 188 remaining for an hour...
Bearsuo
06-23-2013, 06:49 PM
Which is the same A/D as 43
Ya this boss is pretty hard not 100 yet and in a avg guild.
Genocide788
06-23-2013, 06:56 PM
I second what Beth said. I've gotten more EE from this boss as copared to any previous ones. Normally i dont get any bast #10. However i do feel that for a boss at this difficulty it should drop 10 EE instead of 5.
Bearsuo
06-23-2013, 09:16 PM
48 - 1726 / 611
BileJAR
06-23-2013, 10:37 PM
48 - 1726 / 611
dat attack.
Bearsuo
06-23-2013, 11:16 PM
3748
Updated graph. Level 43 Deva has 1701 attack; it will kill a maxed level 100 Jian+ in five hits and a Nemesis in 3 hits.
Looks like the level 60 will have over 2200 attack and kill a maxed Jian+ in three hits and a Nemesis in 2 hits.
I'm only going off vague recollection, but HP seems in line with historic numbers, yeah? If you're up for a relatively straightforward spreadsheeting, what's your projection on what it'd take to take level 60? I'm pushing 50 without secondary Jians or HHs and no gems spent, but I am doubtful I can hit 60.
Musketeer
06-24-2013, 05:36 AM
He wants to have 10 so just in case he couldn't finish it off he can have a second crack at it with 5 energy with 2 knights. Preferably your strongest armor and a strong friend if quite a bit of hp remains. There's a bunch of variation with this tactic, especially useful in the higher lvls of the boss.
I'm so dumb, and I even do that myself. LOL
Tahimaka
06-24-2013, 05:45 AM
Can anyone help me?
Level 44 active iOS player looking for knights with Deva Nemesis armor need one kill to start crafting the Pyromancer's Mantle
Add me: XBB-YWG-RQX
Musketeer
06-24-2013, 06:00 AM
OK, so one way or another I'll get the materials for a Pyromancer's + Armor by the time Deva leaves.
I already have the materials for the Jackalope+ but haven't started on it yet. Which should I prioritize, in view of future epic bosses?
Either is going to be a massive improvement over my current armour wardrobe, but I also have Infernal Lord+, Rocfeather+ and Swamp Shaman+ to work on.
Deman
06-24-2013, 06:43 AM
Getting ready to go for the last few rounds I'm on 36 right now. Farthest I have been and I need to know some strategy for these final levels.
4/3 knights combination no gems
5/2 knights combination no gems
Special attacks 1 gem each
Epic energy 10 for 10 gems
All knight restore 12 gems (saves high level friends)
These are some I am thinking about... Need some input of people who have used.
Lunasea
06-24-2013, 06:51 AM
OK, so one way or another I'll get the materials for a Pyromancer's + Armor by the time Deva leaves.
I already have the materials for the Jackalope+ but haven't started on it yet. Which should I prioritize, in view of future epic bosses?
Either is going to be a massive improvement over my current armour wardrobe, but I also have Infernal Lord+, Rocfeather+ and Swamp Shaman+ to work on.
Level the Jackalope + you can leave the Swamp Shamen+(same attributes as Jackalope + but lose in stats) and Roc + (there are much better Air Spirit armor in the pipeline similar case in Infernal Lord +)
This boss eats Nemesis for breakfast beyond 35+ Jian+ works much better or Flame Thrower + if you managed to level it so fast to max (deals less damage than Jian+ but can take one or two more hit )
Musketeer
06-24-2013, 08:00 AM
Level the Jackalope + you can leave the Swamp Shamen+(same attributes as Jackalope + but lose in stats) and Roc + (there are much better Air Spirit armor in the pipeline similar case in Infernal Lord +)
This boss eats Nemesis for breakfast beyond 35+ Jian+ works much better or Flame Thrower + if you managed to level it so fast to max (deals less damage than Jian+ but can take one or two more hit )
That makes eminent sense, thank you!
Raistmar
06-24-2013, 09:33 AM
Getting ready to go for the last few rounds I'm on 36 right now. Farthest I have been and I need to know some strategy for these final levels.
4/3 knights combination no gems
5/2 knights combination no gems
Special attacks 1 gem each
Epic energy 10 for 10 gems
All knight restore 12 gems (saves high level friends)
These are some I am thinking about... Need some input of people who have used.
Question is how well you are doing at that level. And if your main aim is just the +version of armor? If gems are an issue?
If you just want the + on armor you can always just use the summoning stone for 11 gems is. So 77 gems and you don't have to stress over strategies lol. I'd say it's a better deal than spending 200/300 gems on DPC and get nothing useful.
Roark
06-24-2013, 12:35 PM
from another thread:
Just wondering if deva atk increase is similar for android and iOS?
level 37 Deva is 1468 Attack, 557 Defence
I'm level 96 on Android and I've seen crits for 296 on capped Nemesis, well over 160 on HH+ and the level 35 boss was impossible to beat with just 8 energy
edit2: to compare with Bethmo's chart this seems correct for attack, realized I'm on 37 not 38
jus2tin
06-24-2013, 12:47 PM
from another thread:
level 38 Deva is 1468 Attack, 557 Defence
I'm level 96 on Android and I've seen crits for 296 on capped Nemesis, well over 160 on HH+ and the level 35 boss was impossible to beat with just 8 energy
edit: to compare with Bethmo's chart this seems correct for attack, although the graph appears to be 1500 at 38 but that could be appreoximate
I think won't make it to lvl 43 without spending gems. Do you guys think the armor is good enough to spend gems on?
Oh well, They did give us the option of leveling our guilds elements just before they released Deva.True, but my leader is dumb and bought the wrong bonus :mad: that 5 million I donated went to waste.
Deman
06-24-2013, 03:28 PM
Question is how well you are doing at that level. And if your main aim is just the +version of armor? If gems are an issue?
If you just want the + on armor you can always just use the summoning stone for 11 gems is. So 77 gems and you don't have to stress over strategies lol. I'd say it's a better deal than spending 200/300 gems on DPC and get nothing useful.
I just cleared level 37 with all 5 knights slots used. 8 energy. I think this is the last level I will be able to clear without trying a different strategy. Boss is just hitting too hard... Even for the strongest friends. I am going to try 4 knights for a round, recharge then hit with 3.
Bearsuo
06-24-2013, 04:41 PM
50 - 1778 / 622
I will bring word from 52 on the morrow, pew pew
Archangel_rd
06-24-2013, 04:44 PM
I just cleared level 37 with all 5 knights slots used. 8 energy. I think this is the last level I will be able to clear without trying a different strategy. Boss is just hitting too hard... Even for the strongest friends. I am going to try 4 knights for a round, recharge then hit with 3.
I am in your same boat exactly, just killed #39 barely with all 5 knights (strong friends too) definitely gonna have to start using a good strategy or gems to keep going ... whats the best strategy here?
Lieda
06-24-2013, 06:20 PM
Uuhm, im likely staying at 38 and prolly going to summon it with gems... It often 3 shot my followers.. Ughhh. Nemesis wont scratch it anymore.... My few gems D:
Deman
06-24-2013, 06:55 PM
I am in your same boat exactly, just killed #39 barely with all 5 knights (strong friends too) definitely gonna have to start using a good strategy or gems to keep going ... whats the best strategy here?
Hey with the 4/3 strategy I left 1k hp on the boss and used 10 gems to buy ten energy to finish. I could have saved a few gems with hitting about 3-4 extra special attacks. Next round I'm going with 4/3 and using a few gems for specials.
Roark
06-24-2013, 07:08 PM
gonna try that, I'm also on 38
I'm on android though and presently in the top 10 for damage (small number of competitors) so I'd be using gems for a 2nd + version
with that in mind I'm considering not using gems, not sure that I'd level 2 of the armor, we'll see
Lunasea
06-24-2013, 11:54 PM
Just managed to barely cleared lvl 43 with
3 Jian+ max (my own Jian+ Attack 1678 def 2 strong frds Jian+ 1700+ attack ) and
lvl 31 Flame thrower+ and lvl 41 Hydra +
Basic Stats of Pyromancer + lvl 1
Attack 410
Def 390
no more money to build the armor ... damn broke lolz (takes 200k)
Raistmar
06-25-2013, 12:16 AM
The nemesis+ is a little to late in my opinion. Should have had it much earlier.
Raistmar
06-25-2013, 12:22 AM
Hey with the 4/3 strategy I left 1k hp on the boss and used 10 gems to buy ten energy to finish. I could have saved a few gems with hitting about 3-4 extra special attacks. Next round I'm going with 4/3 and using a few gems for specials.
Grats on gettin to 43.
maple1736
06-25-2013, 03:39 AM
The nemesis+ is a little to late in my opinion. Should have had it much earlier.
The + version is still useless after lv 43! Consider how strong the boss is, she can kill my main knight wearing jian+ max with both guild elements bonus at 10% in three shots at lv50+. The nemesis + might only last 2 shots, might be 3 with the main knight + guild bonus! Still worthless for players aiming to pass lv 60 rewards! Should have something like the Jian nemesis or , as you've said, had the + version at the start of the event considering most ppl need about 2-3 days to get it to max, if not, longer (not talking about those heavy gem spenders opening dpc X times/day for fun and use worthless armors to enhance it)! It got to be changed !!
Well, I'm not getting to 60 this week, its going to be a struggle to get to 51. I only made my Jian normal to 35, I keep hoping for another summon old boss sale, as I only need 5 more items for make the plus. Thankfully, I have lots of high level friends with maxed Jian plus. I may still eventually max out the normal, as its still quite good, but I have to watch my gold spending.
I think my daughter will make 43 (only needs 3 more victories), so at least we'll both have the ability to make the plus version, which is good for her as she just got to KoD and it'll be a good while before she can make a dark prince + (fusion attempts at a normal version have been unsuccessful). I had a good chuckle when she fought the dark prince for the first time and got the surprise. Its only fair, it surprised me too.
Archangel_rd
06-25-2013, 06:26 AM
I'm at 41 now should make it to 43 today... Using a 5/2 strategy if needed ... Bring all 5 knights (strongest friends possible) if I can't beat deva that way wait an 1 and half and come back with two knights to finish it off... Also the one gem special attack is great to use on your heavy hitters
Deman
06-25-2013, 07:08 AM
I'm at 41 now should make it to 43 today... Using a 5/2 strategy if needed ... Bring all 5 knights (strongest friends possible) if I can't beat deva that way wait an 1 and half and come back with two knights to finish it off... Also the one gem special attack is great to use on your heavy hitters
Yeah I just cleared 38 by using 4/3 and waiting hour and a half. I only used special attack (1gem) 4x with the strongest knight of the 7. I still had one knight left when I koed the deva. For now it is more effective than spending 10 gems for 10 energy or 12 to heal all knights.
Roark
06-25-2013, 12:16 PM
cleared 43, took a risk by using my 46ish gems for energy/SA instead of summoning stone
I had exactly enough left to get the materials from summoning stone but I didn't want to fall behind on the Android damage done leaderboard. Sitting at 5th/6th place, should be good for a level 10 in a few hours and enough mats to make 2+'s later
Bryanv2
06-25-2013, 03:28 PM
Hey with the 4/3 strategy I left 1k hp on the boss and used 10 gems to buy ten energy to finish. I could have saved a few gems with hitting about 3-4 extra special attacks. Next round I'm going with 4/3 and using a few gems for specials.
What do you guys mean with, ''left the boss with 1khp then finished'' ? Can you leave the boss at a certain HP, leave and then continue? same with '' I am going to try 4 knights for a round, recharge then hit with 3. '' and ''4/3'' strategy ?
I am assuming it costs Gems though
Archangel_rd
06-25-2013, 03:41 PM
What do you guys mean with, ''left the boss with 1khp then finished'' ? Can you leave the boss at a certain HP, leave and then continue? same with '' I am going to try 4 knights for a round, recharge then hit with 3. '' and ''4/3'' strategy ? I am assuming it costs Gems though
No the 4/3 strategy means bring 4 knights for the fight (7 energy cost) then when he beats u you r left with 3 ee... Whichs charges at 1 per half hour so wait 1.5 hrs then u should have 6 ee... Fight him again with 3 knights and hopefully finish him off... This also applies to a 5/2 strategy ... Hope that helps this boss is damn strong... I'm gonna hit my #43 tonight!
Bryanv2
06-25-2013, 03:56 PM
No the 4/3 strategy means bring 4 knights for the fight (7 energy cost) then when he beats u you r left with 3 ee... Whichs charges at 1 per half hour so wait 1.5 hrs then u should have 6 ee... Fight him again with 3 knights and hopefully finish him off... This also applies to a 5/2 strategy ... Hope that helps this boss is damn strong... I'm gonna hit my #43 tonight!
Hm I see. Though if you couldn't beat him with 4 knights, why would the second time trying him with less knights potentially work better? Since his HP goes back to full right after you lose right? (If not a new world opens up for me lol..) Sorry if its a stupid question.
Unresolved
06-25-2013, 03:57 PM
Hm I see. Though if you couldn't beat him with 4 knights, why would the second time trying him with less knights potentially work better? Since his HP goes back to full right after you lose right? (If not a new world opens up for me lol..) Sorry if its a stupid question.
Not the epic boss. You're talking about regular bosses.
Bryanv2
06-25-2013, 04:00 PM
Not the epic boss. You're talking about regular bosses.
Oh that's sick I didn't know that. And no I was talking about the epic bosses, I just didn't realize that in those 2 hours, if you fight him multiple times his HP is where he was/you left it last time. That's huge new info for me, I assume I'll be able to easily get another 5-10 levels on bosses like that next time :D
Bearsuo
06-25-2013, 04:42 PM
51
1901/649
1830/633
1855/638
Roark
06-25-2013, 05:13 PM
uh so today's Tuesday, whoops
doubt I can push 51, all friends used, somehow thought today was Wednesday
D3athShade
06-25-2013, 07:48 PM
No the 4/3 strategy means bring 4 knights for the fight (7 energy cost) then when he beats u you r left with 3 ee... Whichs charges at 1 per half hour so wait 1.5 hrs then u should have 6 ee... Fight him again with 3 knights and hopefully finish him off... This also applies to a 5/2 strategy ... Hope that helps this boss is damn strong... I'm gonna hit my #43 tonight!
Gratz man! :D
King Mark
06-26-2013, 02:51 AM
This boss seems much tougher to beat than the previous ones :(
I miss the days when bosses were a piece of cake and were so easy to beat, before they updated K&D.
Oh well...
Musketeer
06-26-2013, 08:09 AM
I beat level 43 last night, thanks especially to Raistmar, BethMo, Lord Ash and Sunsfan1caw, who along with a few of my previous friends provided the Jian muscle, while my knights provided the cannon fodder.
My knights were kitted out in AA+ for the minors and HH+ for the lead, all maxed, and I was level 96 at the time. It took two bites at the cherry even with two 100+ friends with maxed Jian+ on the first run, and the second bite was a slight sweat even then due to Diva getting in several big hits.
I tried level 44 later, lacking the really big guns, and it was a wash. I don't see much point in trying again as there's no way I'm making the next big hurdle with my wimpy knights leading the way.
I now face the somewhat tedious task of maxing out my Jackalope+ which finishes crafting later today, and then crafting amd maxing out the Pyromancer+ armor.
Diva 43 was 1701/606, with 31994 HP
momocoast
06-26-2013, 08:43 AM
hi i'am lvl 25 hourly player . i start the game on the last week end
i need help to beat lvl 10deva
i need a strong friend
please add and help me
my id is wbb - ccr- fzv
thanks
Wdraizen
06-26-2013, 09:11 AM
Don't bother about the boss. Since u are only at low level, u must focus on leveling up, gold, and getting the 1*+. Besides the boss for this week is very over powered anyway
The One Taste
06-26-2013, 09:33 AM
I hope there will be a summon sale in the next days... Missing just a couple of crown for the +
Bresson
06-26-2013, 09:43 AM
I hope there will be a summon sale in the next days... Missing just a couple of crown for the +
Its at 11 gems while the boss event is active, I doubt it will get cheaper with a sale once the boss event is done and it costs 30 gems.
Deman
06-26-2013, 10:48 AM
Just cleared level 43 with all my strongest friends. Thanks to everyone for helping me reach my goal.
Roark
06-26-2013, 12:20 PM
grats to the others that beat 43, I hope to beat 60 boss sometime but despite being a level shy of 100 I would not have seen that happening on a boss like this or Jian
perhaps on an easier one assuming this Jian/Deva style once a month pattern continues
Roark
06-26-2013, 04:55 PM
warning, Android related post
the #1 guy for Deva damage dealt just vanished, looks like GREE putting in good work in the midnight hour, Arena top 50 still looking suspect though, except present #26 of course ;)
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