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kashishk
06-09-2013, 11:05 PM
After going through so many threads I am still confused whether the defense buildings really help or they are useless.

If defense buildings help us-

1. Do they protect us when someone attacks us or when someone robs us?
Or they help in both?

2. How effective they are as compared to our defense weapons and defense skill points?

If they're useless -

1. Then why they are in the game?
Why Gree can't shift them to the 'Decoration' section of the game?

montecore
06-09-2013, 11:49 PM
They protect to some degree against robbing.
They are becoming more and more useless with stat inflation.

SaltineSam
06-10-2013, 03:52 AM
After going through so many threads I am still confused whether the defense buildings really help or they are useless.

If defense buildings help us-

1. Do they protect us when someone attacks us or when someone robs us?
Or they help in both?

2. How effective they are as compared to our defense weapons and defense skill points?

If they're useless -

1. Then why they are in the game?
Why Gree can't shift them to the 'Decoration' section of the game?

I think I can understand why your confused. All your intel reports are falsified, and were planted their, by the "Allies"! Just cause your hood, is filled with "Hitler's Bunker" buildings, means you don't stand a chance!

Your bunkers have been bombed to death, and have been reduced to rubble-

1. Results in all your henchman, turning tail, and fleeing for other hoods!

2. They are just as effective as your defense weapons and skill points. Problem is, your weapons are small pistols, with a single round, and are for self termination. Your skill points, are actually cyanide capsules, and therefore have no chance of being victorious when attacked/robbed.

They are useless for you-

1. I'm pretty sure thats not the only thing you asked gree to put in the "Decorations" section, so I'm glad they don't listen.

On another note, this game isn't called "Prison City", and if that's your idea, of playing a character role, it's in bad taste, and you should be banned for your stupidity! And I don't need to be told that your symbols true meaning is something else, we all know what it stands for!

TZora
06-10-2013, 04:05 AM
the title made me chuckle .. but i also felt that the title was incomplete, lemme complete it ..

Defense buildings .. are crap!

BigMoney
06-10-2013, 04:39 AM
A hood filled with 50 level 10 missile turrets, 50 level 10 gatling turrets, and 50 level 10 of every other miscellaneous defense building is the sign of a truly skillful and dedicated player (and not to mention 100% legitimate). If you check their profile, you will notice they have a very high defense stat, which is completely untouchable by anyone with a lower attack stat, so you shouldn't bother trying.

TZora
06-10-2013, 05:04 AM
i think the most you can have is 40 of each building .. but yeah, there is no use of upgrading them to level 10 unless you have nothing else to upgrade .. the best you should do is upgrade them to level 2 and build more .. there's a lot of confusion over their "real defense" scores ..

nazgul
06-10-2013, 06:01 AM
i think the most you can have is 40 of each building ..
It's 50. I'm one of those sillies who has 50 gatling turrets...

candyson
06-10-2013, 06:43 PM
I just avoid them. I'm pretty much untouchable at my level, anyway.

Poor D
06-10-2013, 06:49 PM
it's not a mistake to build defense buildings. it is a mistake to build them at the expense of of income buildings. I purchase defense buildings while saving for high price buildings such as the casino or night club.

it is also a mistake to upgrade defense buildings. I have almost 100 level 1 turrets and they seem to aid me in fights as my listed defense is about 1K below my true defense.

TZora
06-10-2013, 07:53 PM
I have almost 100 level 1 turrets and they seem to aid me in fights

http://typophile.com/files/WTF_4918.goth.4.JPG

and we were debating over max builds 40 or 50 :confused:

c00guy
06-10-2013, 09:19 PM
and we were debating over max builds 40 or 50 :confused:
Obviously he's referring to machine gun and gatling turrets combined. Max build is 50

t12pm
06-10-2013, 11:24 PM
it's not a mistake to build defense buildings. it is a mistake to build them at the expense of of income buildings. I purchase defense buildings while saving for high price buildings such as the casino or night club.

it is also a mistake to upgrade defense buildings. I have almost 100 level 1 turrets and they seem to aid me in fights as my listed defense is about 1K below my true defense.

I would like to rob you to see this! I have never found 1 listed defense lower than true defense, I sold all my buildings i upgraded past 3 on lower levels as they inflated my defense number and gave a false sense of security, since doing that i have lost very few robberies and attacks i get hit with, maybe this will help Note the effective d!!!!!!!! http://crimecityios.wikia.com/wiki/Defense_Buildings This is my reason not to go past level 2 or 3

Poor D
06-11-2013, 02:59 AM
http://typophile.com/files/WTF_4918.goth.4.JPG

and we were debating over max builds 40 or 50 :confused:

i have 50 gatling turrets and i think 45 missile turrets.

Sorry for the confusion :-)

Poor D
06-11-2013, 03:04 AM
I would like to rob you to see this! I have never found 1 listed defense lower than true defense, I sold all my buildings i upgraded past 3 on lower levels as they inflated my defense number and gave a false sense of security, since doing that i have lost very few robberies and attacks i get hit with, maybe this will help Note the effective d!!!!!!!! http://crimecityios.wikia.com/wiki/Defense_Buildings This is my reason not to go past level 2 or 3

I was surprised as well. I had Senator McCarthy attack me and he gave me my true defense. It was about 1K higher than what is shown on my profile. I have no explanation other than maybe a rounding glitch with all of the syndicate/personal modifiers.

I have seen that post and that is part of the reason all of my buildings are level 1. I like the turrets because they don't take up much space and allow me plenty of room for income buildings. I don't upgrade them because I am always upgrading an income building and also because of the link that you listed.

No need to rob me....I'm not lying....lol

AK-47
06-11-2013, 04:33 AM
I was surprised as well. I had Senator McCarthy attack me and he gave me my true defense. It was about 1K higher than what is shown on my profile. I have no explanation other than maybe a rounding glitch with all of the syndicate/personal modifiers.
This was true about a month ago when player's attack and defense bonuses from their Syndicate were not being displayed correctly. Since they "fixed" that I have not seen anyone with a higher def then their profile. I use quite a bit of bullets, but maybe the problem still exists on iOS?

Hivesy
06-11-2013, 06:46 AM
Defense buildings are just a cheap and easy way to buy a few extra defensive stats. Don't over think it, any less robberies you've had since building defense buildings is pure coincidence. You spend cash and get a decent def stat jump. Think of them as the 6th category, guns, melee, armour, explosives, vehicles and def buildings. If a building has a def of 32 its like buying some armour with stats of 0-32. Only its not linked to the size of your mob obviously.

Nothing more nothing less. I find the machine guns and gatling guns are worth it as they don't take up too much room. The point where they aren't really worth it is if you build any of the bigger ones as they take up too much floor space in your hood. It's not worth buying extra land at 25 mil per row for example just to increase your def by 32 x 8 buildings. Then you're better off spending your cash on actual weapons and armour.

The beauty of the machine guns and gatling turrets is that you can fit them in any gaps between your buildings easily and I find they really don't take up any dedicated space as such. I have 50 of each and you'd hardly know they were there. At 5 and 25 def stats each they give me a nice cheap 1,500 extra defense that I would have to spend a lot of cash or gold to get from elsewhere.

It's slightly more complicated in MW where defensive buildings have a radius of effect but in CC it's just extra stats. AND, don't forget, having great big momma fkcing machine guns down every alleyway just plain looks cool :)

Poor D
06-11-2013, 07:37 AM
This was true about a month ago when player's attack and defense bonuses from their Syndicate were not being displayed correctly. Since they "fixed" that I have not seen anyone with a higher def then their profile. I use quite a bit of bullets, but maybe the problem still exists on iOS?

I am on Android. I think Senator McCarthy is on IOS. This experiment was done less than a week ago.

Poor D
06-11-2013, 07:39 AM
Defense buildings are just a cheap and easy way to buy a few extra defensive stats. Don't over think it, any less robberies you've had since building defense buildings is pure coincidence. You spend cash and get a decent def stat jump. Think of them as the 6th category, guns, melee, armour, explosives, vehicles and def buildings. If a building has a def of 32 its like buying some armour with stats of 0-32. Only its not linked to the size of your mob obviously.

Nothing more nothing less. I find the machine guns and gatling guns are worth it as they don't take up too much room. The point where they aren't really worth it is if you build any of the bigger ones as they take up too much floor space in your hood. It's not worth buying extra land at 25 mil per row for example just to increase your def by 32 x 8 buildings. Then you're better off spending your cash on actual weapons and armour.

The beauty of the machine guns and gatling turrets is that you can fit them in any gaps between your buildings easily and I find they really don't take up any dedicated space as such. I have 50 of each and you'd hardly know they were there. At 5 and 25 def stats each they give me a nice cheap 1,500 extra defense that I would have to spend a lot of cash or gold to get from elsewhere.

It's slightly more complicated in MW where defensive buildings have a radius of effect but in CC it's just extra stats. AND, don't forget, having great big momma fkcing machine guns down every alleyway just plain looks cool :)

What he said....... I gree with this message in its entirety.

Hivesy
06-11-2013, 10:02 AM
What he said....... I gree with this message in its entirety.

Don't know why people are down on defensive buildings, they have their uses, especially at lower levels where a few stats can make a big difference.

murf
06-11-2013, 10:38 AM
Don't know why people are down on defensive buildings, they have their uses, especially at lower levels where a few stats can make a big difference.

They have always added just a small amount to your defense and now with stats inflation, they are becoming more and more useless.

If you participate in this epic boss event just from the 1st 20 levels (assuming 14 common / 4 uncommon / 2 rare), You will get stats of about 2,500 / 2,500. So, I'm sure you can see how quickly 50 Machine gun turrets and Gatling Turrets start to become less meaningful.

That being said, if you aren't building anything and have some space for them, then go right ahead and add them. But they should never be a priority.