Toy Box Building

[MattThomas08]

New building released. Toy Box Building. Event currently showing 20 days long. Let me know if you have anything to add or anything is wrong.

Level 1: Output $275,000 at 12 hour payouts. Cost $35 million. Build time 24 hours.
Prize: Passions Party Favor; 402/298
Level 2: Output $550,000. Cost $58,450,000. Upgrade time 30 hours.
Prize: Red Light Scrapper, melee 518/416
Level 3: Output $962,500. Cost $97,300,000. Upgrade time 36 hours.
Prize: Hot Night, explosive, 823/461
Level 4: Output $1,512,500. Cost $162,750,000. Upgrade time 42 hours.
Prize: Secret Identity, armor, 750/1000
Level 5: Output $2,200,000. Cost $271,950,000. Upgrade time 48 hours.
Prize: Red Light Gun, gun, 1233/1101
Level 6: Output $3,025,000. Cost $454,300,000. Upgrade time 54 hours.
Prize: Enforcer's Ride, car, 1457/1577
Level 7: Output $3,987,500 Cost $759,150,000. Upgrade time 60 hours.
Prize: Bombshell, explosive, 2256/1595
Level 8: Output $5,087,500. Cost $1,267,700,000. Upgrade time 66 hours.
Prize: Uninvited Guest, gun, 2552/2233
Level 9: Output $6,325,000. Cost 2,117,150,000. Upgrade time 72 hours.
Prize: Ringleader's Jacket, armor, 2530/3305
Level 10: Output $8,250,000 Cost $3,535,700,000. Upgrade time 78 hours.
Prize: Escort's Ride, car, 5930/5740

Thanks to Boaz for building costs and upgrade times
Thanks to Itz for outputs
Thanks to Mxz for the prizes

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[(CCK) Cam]

I don't see it...

[erik41141]

Someone post their level 1 payout (Including bonuses) & level 2 payout (including bonuses). Hoping to god this is a type A or better.

[Ram]

nice weapons!

[(CCK) Cam]

Someone post their level 1 payout (Including bonuses) & level 2 payout (including bonuses). Hoping to god this is a type A or better.Same here, really want this to be type A

[kingofwale]

Thank you gree!!!!

[erik41141]

If someone can just post that info i can tell within 3 seconds whether its type A or B (or inbetween)...

[Ice Cream Man]

What are the bonuses?

[BigMoney]

So glad I held off upgrading my NC. I almost did it after I didn't see any LTB goals when the syndicate war ended. Also, this event is super long, so I wonder if that means either the LTB will cost more to upgrade or perhaps take longer to upgrade? Or maybe they want people to get farther in this event?

[The real cosmo]

How do you see the weapons? I'm on IOS.

[cditti]

Dang spent 60 mil...

[Dipstik]

If someone can just post that info i can tell within 3 seconds whether its type A or B (or inbetween)...

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/29029862.jpg

[Akkoo]

Looks more promising than the previous one.

[erik41141]

No, I just know how to use an excel spreadsheet and game mechanics. Ya heard of those types of things?
Haters gonna hate...

[Dipstik]

No, I just know how to use an excel spreadsheet and game mechanics. Ya heard of those types of things?
Haters gonna hate...

You won't dazzle me with your talk of "game mechanics" and "spreadsheets." I TOO know the magic of looking at numbers and seeing whether one is 3x the other or not!

I put on my wizard robe and hat!

[erik41141]

Ohh but you see, its much more than that. Hardly anyone has 0 modifier bonuses so you have to factor that in when someone thinks you can tell if its truly A/B with just their 2 heavily affected payouts. You have to do 2 data sets (one for basepayout being modified first then affected by the A/B multiplication, the other for the basepayout being first multiplied by A/B then affected by modifier bonus). And finally you have to confirm those numbers across multiple devices because Gree somehow always screws up cross-platform. Really simple work actually, just no one does it.

So there no wizard, no magic, just doing something marginally productive other than searching for posts on a game forum and finding adequate meems to respond with. Honestly have to say though out of all the dipsticks on these types of forums I always enjoy reading a stupid post and seeing your hilarious remarks.

[Dipstik]

Sure champ. It doesn't matter what modifiers are in play or what platform they're on (unless there's a bug, obviously, which could do anything)... if the level 2 payout is 3x the level 1 payout, it's Type A. That's pretty much the definition of Type A. If you feel like making a big deal out of it, go ahead, but with my magic skillz, I can do it without spreadsheets.

[Generik79]

This made me laugh. Make Fibonacci go away, daddy!!!

[Scarface78]

This made me laugh. Make Fibonacci go away, daddy!!!
I can't stop laughting... lol

[kidpresentable]

Only bought my 2nd Dockside Mill yesterday, just in time. I better get saving again...

[itzkakarot]

All data is up on my spreadsheet, see sig for link. I assumed its a Type B for now until someone confirms otherwise. I also need the size of the building.

[jeffrey25]

All data is up on my spreadsheet, see sig for link. I assumed its a Type B for now until someone confirms otherwise. I also need the size of the building.

thanks for updating the spreadsheet....

[Two Foot Sal]

building is 4x4

[erik41141]

Woulda demolished NC if it was type A :( Even collecting NC 3 times every day wouldnt have been more than collecting toy box twice a day (if it was type A) not to mention the higher base payoff. God damn type B buildings!!!

[itzkakarot]

building is 4x4
Thanks! Updated

[dragon001]

nice and small... i think its a 4x4 like the pagoda. not bad looking, and not a piggish-dog like the previous. payout... ehh. I am doing it for the weapons, and of course it will be a new building and a bit more income. it would of course be fabulous if it were type a... well whatever it is,
thanks Gree!

now we just need some new decorations.....

[My2cents]

Do you have to be a certain level? I am level 23 no building

[in-game j]

do we get an item for each upgrade ?

[Tommy Two Toes]

I put on my wizard robe and hat!

I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.

[Coladonato]

I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.

There are no woman on the Internet

[Gingeasian]

do we get an item for each upgrade ?
Yes you get one per level up

[nopenopenope]

This thread is a classic gem. Fib ratios bwahahahaha

[OneHoop]

You could do this one by only rushing the building with gold. 5*24=120, although there's a little more time available if you were to set alarms to start the next upgrades.

You would need to be able to collect (and/or rob) over 18M/h, which I would estimate as about 22.6M IPH. I'm going to be a LITTLE short ;)

Of course, you wouldn't need that income if you had a little over 9B in savings. Time Travelers?


M@

[Gambit12]

I can still see the last LE bldg which is the Dockside Mill...

[Holicaholic]

Wow, it's been a while since I thought about bloodninja....

"I pry open that battleship you call an ass"

[Dipstik]

I was wondering if anyone would get that reference :)

[minji976]

Do you have to be a certain level? I am level 23 no building
Lvl 26 has it!

[Generik79]

This thread is a classic gem. Fib ratios bwahahahaha

:-)


I was wondering if anyone would get that reference :)

Me too.

[mxz]

Who said SAS and HTC couldn't help each other out?! Here you go, MT.

2 Prize: Red Light Scrapper, melee 518/416
3 Prize: Hot Night, explosive, 823/461
4 Prize: Secret Identity, armor, 750/1000
5 Prize: Red Light Gun, gun, 1233/1101
6 Prize: Enforcer's Ride, car, 1457/1577
7 Prize: Bombshell, explosive, 2256/1595
8 Prize: Uninvited Guest, gun, 2552/2233
9 Prize: Ringleader's Jacket, armor, 2530/3305
10 Prize: Escort's Ride, car, 5930/5740

[MattThomas08]

Who said SAS and HTC couldn't help each other out?! Here you go, MT.

2 Prize: Red Light Scrapper, melee 518/416
3 Prize: Hot Night, explosive, 823/461
4 Prize: Secret Identity, armor, 750/1000
5 Prize: Red Light Gun, gun, 1233/1101
6 Prize: Enforcer's Ride, car, 1457/1577
7 Prize: Bombshell, explosive, 2256/1595
8 Prize: Uninvited Guest, gun, 2552/2233
9 Prize: Ringleader's Jacket, armor, 2530/3305
10 Prize: Escort's Ride, car, 5930/5740

Thanks Mxz. I'll let SAS know you send your regards ;)

[itzkakarot]

Does anyone have a Toy Box completed and can post an upgrade screenshot with the income for level 2? That will determine Type A or B...

[Tommy Two Toes]

I was wondering if anyone would get that reference :) I still drop "you can't rush good pizza" every chance I get.

[OneHoop]

Ohh but you see, its much more than that. Hardly anyone has 0 modifier bonuses so you have to factor that in when someone thinks you can tell if its truly A/B with just their 2 heavily affected payouts. You have to do 2 data sets (one for basepayout being modified first then affected by the A/B multiplication, the other for the basepayout being first multiplied by A/B then affected by modifier bonus). And finally you have to confirm those numbers across multiple devices because Gree somehow always screws up cross-platform. Really simple work actually, just no one does it.

So there no wizard, no magic, just doing something marginally productive other than searching for posts on a game forum and finding adequate meems to respond with. Honestly have to say though out of all the dipsticks on these types of forums I always enjoy reading a stupid post and seeing your hilarious remarks.

Sounds like someone needs a lesson in the associative property of multiplication! When I first read your post, I was like... "It takes you 3 seconds to divide by 2?" ;)


M@

[Da_Boss]

Are the upgrade costs posted without any modifiers?

[mxz]

Are the upgrade costs posted without any modifiers?They're without. A general rule is upgrade cost = 5/3*last upgrade cost.

Confirmed, it's unfortunately Type B.
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/mxz1/F3BA1908-39D3-4434-9BDE-4ED2549AFD40-10296-000005AFA7447D7F_zps1fdbe4c7.jpg

[Dark Side]

What is type A or B means ?

[mxz]

What is type A or B means ?Courtesy of Tramp Stamp (RIP)
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?13183-Payout-algorithm-explained

[Tommy Two Toes]

What is type A or B means ?

Short version...
Type A buildings scale Income Per Hour (IPH) faster, and have a much quicker return on upgrade investments. Buy both types of buildings, just upgrade type A first.

[Emperor886]

I was wondering if anyone would get that reference :)

That conversation is, to this day, the funniest thing I have ever read. XD

[The real cosmo]

Since this is a type B building with a small footprint, is it worth it to add a second one?

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

If its worth having one, its worth having 2.

[Kepheus2nd]

Since this is a type B building with a small footprint, is it worth it to add a second one?

If you can manage to collect twice a day, definitely. You could always get rid of Pizza Parlors, Delis or any other low income 4x4 or 4x5 now or later if you need the space.

[Lemmy66]

Getting this now

[Bala82]

First of all let be clear this building is a Adult toy store just because it's called toy box building doesn't change what it is . Yet no one made a D joke yet :D. Well done i was expecting some adult jokes from you lot :)

[cditti]

I just cleared a few buildings away. The low level one are getting demolished. I even moved more to be removed once I need the space. Funny how the game progresses and all the time put into those low buildings. Which I thought were great are now trash.

[Bala82]

I just cleared a few buildings away. The low level one are getting demolished. I even moved more to be removed once I need the space. Funny how the game progresses and all the time put into those low buildings. Which I thought were great are now trash.

This is what happen in the city so i am glad it give you a choice to get rid of old building replace them with new buildings which are more profitable .

[erik41141]

This building is absolutely not worth it. Its a type B so it had bad return on investment, just from base payout it would take 64 days to accumulate the 35M back so that gives you an idea of how much of a long-term investment it is. Pagodas have much better return so to truly maximize your economy its all about the NC's and Pagodas.

That being said....im definitely buying 1 just so I can show off all the LE buildings i've bought, but definitely wont bother upgrading it...

[Bala82]

but it better than most current TYPE B building right ?

it's better than condo building ?

[dispohero]

all this talk about RoI of your fake cash is stupid. its not about RoI, its about raw cash on hand.

if you have empty space, you buy the highest cash generating building possible.

if you dont have empty space, you get rid of your lowest cash generating building.

[dudeman]

This building is absolutely not worth it. Its a type B so it had bad return on investment, just from base payout it would take 64 days to accumulate the 35M back so that gives you an idea of how much of a long-term investment it is. Pagodas have much better return so to truly maximize your economy its all about the NC's and Pagodas.

That being said....im definitely buying 1 just so I can show off all the LE buildings i've bought, but definitely wont bother upgrading it...

Implied facepalm: when you read a post so ridiculous it doesn't even merit the effort to locate and post a funny facepalm meme.

[lordsagacity]

This building is absolutely not worth it. Its a type B so it had bad return on investment, just from base payout it would take 64 days to accumulate the 35M back so that gives you an idea of how much of a long-term investment it is. Pagodas have much better return so to truly maximize your economy its all about the NC's and Pagodas.

That being said....im definitely buying 1 just so I can show off all the LE buildings i've bought, but definitely wont bother upgrading it...

It's upgraded for the weapons, who cares the IPH increase from it?

[cooch]

I take it the logic of getting pixel toys, which should be a bigger priority in Syn wars, escapes the mathematicians here. This is not Finance 101 guys and you need to make some adjustments to your calcs. Like, how much real $ will it cost to get a similar weapon while you worry about wasting gree dollars on a type B? Or how about XP boost (real issue I would think) to get equivalent weapons in LTQs... But hey I didn't get a Finance degree so what do I know. I side with Lord G on this one!:cool:




It's upgraded for the weapons, who cares the IPH increase from it?

[LisaM]

I'm glad I bought it, am already upgrading it to level 2 and have the second one under construction. That said, once I've done whatever upgrading to the first I can manage in order to get the units, I'll go back to my NC and Pagoda upgrade plan. Which will likely be interrupted again with the next LE building offer LOL! FWIW I didn't get the previous LE building, what an eyesore. This one isn't esthetically pleasing either but at least it's small. I do know that my criteria for buying buildings is not exactly based on good financial reasoning :D

[Dipstik]

Lisa... Did you use gold to finish level 1? I thought I had mine going immediately, but I have a couple hours left.

[cooch]

I'm glad I bought it, am already upgrading it to level 2 and have the second one under construction. That said, once I've done whatever upgrading to the first I can manage in order to get the units, I'll go back to my NC and Pagoda upgrade plan. Which will likely be interrupted again with the next LE building offer LOL! FWIW I didn't get the previous LE building, what an eyesore. This one isn't esthetically pleasing either but at least it's small. I do know that my criteria for buying buildings is not exactly based on good financial reasoning :D

Mill was butt ugly. Got three toys and sell it whenever I decide to.

[LisaM]

Lisa... Did you use gold to finish level 1? I thought I had mine going immediately, but I have a couple hours left.

Yeah I did. Not the best use of gold but I'm having fun!


Mill was butt ugly. Got three toys and sell it whenever I decide to.

Smart :)

[montecore]

Mill was butt ugly. Got three toys and sell it whenever I decide to.


you can build three?

[LisaM]

Mill was butt ugly. Got three toys and sell it whenever I decide to.


you can build three?

He upgraded one x3 for 3 units.

[ZURENNARRH]

you can build three?

I've heard about you

[cditti]

This is a great building and should be able to get up to level 7 by end. after that no more cash.. Then time to start saving again.

[SC4R]

I was looking for a way to spend my savings. They toys your get from upgrading are going to be a nice addition to my collection

[doyourtime89]

I was looking for a way to spend my savings. They toys your get from upgrading are going to be a nice addition to my collection

That is just what I was thinking

[murf]

This building is absolutely not worth it. Its a type B so it had bad return on investment, just from base payout it would take 64 days to accumulate the 35M back so that gives you an idea of how much of a long-term investment it is. Pagodas have much better return so to truly maximize your economy its all about the NC's and Pagodas.

That being said....im definitely buying 1 just so I can show off all the LE buildings i've bought, but definitely wont bother upgrading it...

This is such a ridiculous statement:

With goodfella + 25% syndicate bonuses:

Toy Box - L3 +$47k/hr, cost $97m
Rock Cafe - L7 +44k/hr, cost $195m

That's all I'm going to say.

[The real cosmo]

If you can manage to collect twice a day, definitely. You could always get rid of Pizza Parlors, Delis or any other low income 4x4 or 4x5 now or later if you need the space.

Thanks, have the space for it and I thought 2 would make sense, but thought was worth asking more experienced players.

Now for another question. I'm on 2nd upgrade, but can't find the Party Favors. What kind of equipment is it suppose to be?

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

Hmm decisions... the building completely falls off after level 6.

If go to 7 over the course of the event I end up with...

Stat Gain: 7439/6448
IPH Gain: 456,871

If I stop at 6 I can also get other good upgrades in during the event leaving me with...

Stat Gain: 5183/4853
IPH Gain: 769,111


Hmm...

[mxz]

Units you'll probably never be able to get again...or IPH which you can always increase whenever...

[Idiosyncrasy]

Thanks, have the space for it and I thought 2 would make sense, but thought was worth asking more experienced players.

Now for another question. I'm on 2nd upgrade, but can't find the Party Favors. What kind of equipment is it suppose to be?

Melee

5char

[tehlolkid]

12mil short to upgrade to level 2. I don't think i will make enough money to upgrade it to level 3 with my 110k IPH

[Kepheus2nd]

Hmm decisions... the building completely falls off after level 6.

If go to 7 over the course of the event I end up with...

Stat Gain: 7439/6448
IPH Gain: 456,871

If I stop at 6 I can also get other good upgrades in during the event leaving me with...

Stat Gain: 5183/4853
IPH Gain: 769,111


Hmm...

Lvl 7 Prize: Bombshell, explosive, 2256/1595
IPH you can build up later, the item you can get only once.
So ask yourself whats more important to how you play the game.
I for sure will upgrade to lvl 7 :-)

[Scarface78]

Lvl 7 Prize: Bombshell, explosive, 2256/1595
IPH you can build up later, the item you can get only once.
So ask yourself whats more important to how you play the game.
I for sure will upgrade to lvl 7 :-)

I disagree, with a greater IPH you can upgrade other LTB Events to a higher level AND get even more items... I think it's more important get the 2 buildings for later IPH increase than upgrade just one to get just one item...

[itzkakarot]

I disagree, with a greater IPH you can upgrade other LTB Events to a higher level AND get even more items... I think it's more important get the 2 buildings for later IPH increase than upgrade just one to get just one item...
I completely agree. Getting your second (one additional) building that will never be available again, versus getting one more +XXX/+XXX stat item. Choose the building, it's of far greater value. Gree will keep throwing higher stat items at us, but buildings are a different story.

[Daswi]

I completely agree. Getting your second (one additional) building that will never be available again, versus getting one more +XXX/+XXX stat item. Choose the building, it's of far greater value. Gree will keep throwing higher stat items at us, but buildings are a different story.

I'm onboard with the "get both buildings" crew.

[murf]

I disagree, with a greater IPH you can upgrade other LTB Events to a higher level AND get even more items... I think it's more important get the 2 buildings for later IPH increase than upgrade just one to get just one item...

I think if he's talking about the L7 upgrade he can find 35m in his couch cushions for the 2nd building. He's debating the L7 upgrade + item vs say NC upgrade.

[cditti]

I have 2 modifiers and thought this might be helpful If you have one or both or even more modifiers..

Costs 30% off upgrade cost time 25% off time

$35,000,000.00 $35,000,000.00 24 hours
$58,450,000.00 $40,915,000.00 30 hours 22.5
$97,300,000.00 $68,110,000.00 36 hours 27
$162,750,000.00 $113,925,000.00 42 hours 31.5
$271,950,000.00 $190,365,000.00 48 hours 36
$454,300,000.00 $318,010,000.00 54 hours 40.5
$759,150,000.00 $531,405,000.00 60 hours 45
$1,267,700,000.00 $887,390,000.00 66 hours 49.5
$2,117,150,000.00 $1,482,005,000.00 72 hours 54
$3,535,700,000.00 $2,474,990,000.00 78 hours 58.5

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

I think if he's talking about the L7 upgrade he can find 35m in his couch cushions for the 2nd building. He's debating the L7 upgrade + item vs say NC upgrade.

Haha yes exactly. The L7 IPH gain includes a L1 as well. The L6 option includes a NC6 upgrade and I believe the 2nd TB to L4. I had another even more economical scenario in which both TB go to L5, NC6 and DM2. All use same amount of time. The difference here was less than 50k IPH though so ill definitely opt for the L6 prize.

Just like the L7 prize is only available right now, the Upgrade time itself is also only available right now. Forgoing the best upgrade for the item may eventually set me back significantly more IPH over time, whereas the 2k attack lost out on is fixed and becoming more and more worthless each event with stat inflation.

I think I'll go to 6 only.

[mxz]

I think if he's talking about the L7 upgrade he can find 35m in his couch cushions for the 2nd building. He's debating the L7 upgrade + item vs say NC upgrade.Exactly. Buying the second should be cake if you're debating 6 vs. 7.

Additionally, you can build after the "quest" is done, up until they change datasets, ~5 days after the quest ends.

[alanlod]

Thanks for info bro do t think I can afford one

[kerching]

Exactly. Buying the second should be cake if you're debating 6 vs. 7.

Additionally, you can build after the "quest" is done, up until they change datasets, ~5 days after the quest ends.

Do you still think that will be true this time? The Toy Box event ends in 18d 22h, and the syndicate war starts in 15d 21h. So the Toy Box and Syndicate war will end at the same time, whereas previously, the building LTQ used to end before the war started, right? Not sure whether this will actually make any difference though :confused:

[mxz]

Do you still think that will be true this time? The Toy Box event ends in 18d 22h, and the syndicate war starts in 15d 21h. So the Toy Box and Syndicate war will end at the same time, whereas previously, the building LTQ used to end before the war started, right? Not sure whether this will actually make any difference though :confused:Well the last upgrade is, what, 78 hours? That's about the length of the whole war.

Factor in the data set pushes after the war ends...the extra couple million to have a second should be a drop in the bucket compared to the L7 (or L10) upgrade.

[Max Power]

All these LTBs have been keeping me from my 2nd level 10 NC Upgrade. This time I said eff it, I am gonna finish the nightclubs. I sill will buy two of these though, because the 12 hour building set needs a shot in the arm to be relevent.

[nopenopenope]

I sill will buy two of these though, because the 12 hour building set needs a shot in the arm to be relevent.

If you have anything else to inject after all this time be sure to share with the rest of us!

[Max Power]

If you have anything else to inject after all this time be sure to share with the rest of us!

OK............

[Max Power]

Are u trolling ?

And you would be?

[Dae Mega]

I'm a king playa

Seriously, hilarious.

[RedEyePad]

I just noticed that accelerating new building construction only costs half the gold of accelerating upgrade construction: 1 gold per 12 minutes of construction time vs 1 gold per 6 minutes of upgrade time...therefore if you anticipate spending gold to complete upgrades at the end of the event you can actually do it a little cheaper overall by instantly completing the new construction at the beginning and thus start your upgrade to level 2 earlier than you otherwise would have.

My apologies if this has already been established but it just struck me while planning out progress on the Toy Box and I hadn't seen such a strategy advocated on the forums before.

[kerching]

Additionally, you can build after the "quest" is done, up until they change datasets, ~5 days after the quest ends.

Sorry, what I meant was that previously the quest ended before the war started, then you could continue building the LE building during the war. This time, the quest ends when the war ends, so maybe you won't be able to continue building after the quest is done?

[mxz]

Sorry, what I meant was that previously the quest ended before the war started, then you could continue building the LE building during the war. This time, the quest ends when the war ends, so maybe you won't be able to continue building after the quest is done?The building availability can only go away after a dataset change. You can use the same principles as overtime if you're worried about it going away before you save up for it.

[Wasim Alam]

If i buy a building, get the weapon, sell the building and again buy one building, would i get the weapon again?

[kerching]

The building availability can only go away after a dataset change. You can use the same principles as overtime if you're worried about it going away before you save up for it.

Ahh, clever - thanks! :D

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

I just noticed that accelerating new building construction only costs half the gold of accelerating upgrade construction: 1 gold per 12 minutes of construction time vs 1 gold per 6 minutes of upgrade time...therefore if you anticipate spending gold to complete upgrades at the end of the event you can actually do it a little cheaper overall by instantly completing the new construction at the beginning and thus start your upgrade to level 2 earlier than you otherwise would have.

My apologies if this has already been established but it just struck me while planning out progress on the Toy Box and I hadn't seen such a strategy advocated on the forums before.

I noticed the exact same thing when building, and then later noticed it went back to 10 gold/hr,but did not make the corellation. Thanks.

[lordsagacity]

I just noticed that accelerating new building construction only costs half the gold of accelerating upgrade construction: 1 gold per 12 minutes of construction time vs 1 gold per 6 minutes of upgrade time...therefore if you anticipate spending gold to complete upgrades at the end of the event you can actually do it a little cheaper overall by instantly completing the new construction at the beginning and thus start your upgrade to level 2 earlier than you otherwise would have.

My apologies if this has already been established but it just struck me while planning out progress on the Toy Box and I hadn't seen such a strategy advocated on the forums before.

This strategy only works for me in the first ltb event. The second one is too costly and I can only upgrade to lv 8 with a long idle period. This one provides sufficient upgrade time so there's no need to accelerate

[murf]

This strategy only works for me in the first ltb event. The second one is too costly and I can only upgrade to lv 8 with a long idle period. This one provides sufficient upgrade time so there's no need to accelerate

If you going for L10 without upgrade time modifiers you need to spend gold...total upgrade time is 510 hours. So, you need to speed up at least 30 hours of upgrade time. If you plan on doing this, you should do it during the build phase, not wait until the end to speed up the last upgrade. It will be cheaper that way.

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

Safe to say everyone who reaches L10 on any LTB is modded up out the arse.

[MattThomas08]

Safe to say everyone who reaches L10 on any LTB is modded up out the arse.

Or buying cash. It's happening. I never thought I would see the day.

[murf]

Safe to say everyone who reaches L10 on any LTB is modded up out the arse.

Not necessarily (but probably)....some of the $10m+/hr guys could have come into the event with $2B+ cash in hand and over 20days could easily accumulate another $5-6B.

[ShawnBB]

Anyone still remember who I am?

[The real cosmo]

If i buy a building, get the weapon, sell the building and again buy one building, would i get the weapon again?

I will say no, but that is just speculation. Try it and let us know how if works out.

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

That's what I mean-- how do you think those guys got to 10m/h in the first place? Modifiers, guaranteed! I'll tell ya, things have not been the same since I got my -30% upgrade cost mod... IPH has sky rocketed.

That's crazy about the cash buying. You're right though. Guys willing to get 350+ on leader boards, a couple vaults of cash is nothing. On the same note though, these are the same guys who are willing to buy every single collect 10 item.. So you know what that means... Modifiers!

[murf]

That's what I mean-- how do you think those guys got to 10m/h in the first place? Modifiers, guaranteed! I'll tell ya, things have not been the same since I got my -30% upgrade cost mod... IPH has sky rocketed.

That's crazy about the cash buying. You're right though. Guys willing to get 350+ on leader boards, a couple vaults of cash is nothing. On the same note though, these are the same guys who are willing to buy every single collect 10 item.. So you know what that means... Modifiers!

Not true at all...I have an income of $8mm/hr. I have one upgrade time modifier which is nice but not that beneficial, (I still have to come up with the cash for the next upgrade) . I have also donated $9b to my syndicate and spent another $1b on the new cash items. If I didn't do that I would have been close to $10mm/hr, and without an upgrade cost modifier.

[Fearless]

The toy box building is pretty sweet if you ask me

[OffensivelyNamedGuy]

Not true at all...I have an income of $8mm/hr. I have one upgrade time modifier which is nice but not that beneficial, (I still have to come up with the cash for the next upgrade) . I have also donated $9b to my syndicate and spent another $1b on the new cash items. If I didn't do that I would have been close to $10mm/hr, and without an upgrade cost modifier.

Still have a modifier ;) haha. You are one of the rare ones then. Where were you on the executive coupe man?? Seems like eeeveryone has it.

[dudeman]

Gree is ignorantly missing a big cash grab opportunity. LTQs have elite mode for going through a second time. Two of the limited buildings can be built but the second one can pretty much be ignored until later. Why no elite mode for building quests?

Silly Gree and their lack of foresight.

[montecore]

Gree is ignorantly missing a big cash grab opportunity. LTQs have elite mode for going through a second time. Two of the limited buildings can be built but the second one can pretty much be ignored until later. Why no elite mode for building quests?

Silly Gree and their lack of foresight.

Not a bad idea. Just letting you get double weapons for each upgrade on both buildings would fit the bill, maybe a special huge item if you get both to 10 in addition to the current level 10 item.

[GucciMane]

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[murf]

Still have a modifier ;) haha. You are one of the rare ones then. Where were you on the executive coupe man?? Seems like eeeveryone has it.

Damn, neither of my accounts have it...

[BigMoney]

It's always hard to tell with modifiers when numbers are off, but in this case, I noticed because I withdrew the additional money from my bank in anticipation of my prior upgrade completing and noticed I was still short.


Level 5: Output $2,200,000. Cost $271,950,000. Upgrade time 48 hours.
Prize: Red Light Gun, gun, 1233/1101

I have 30% off upgrades, and had to pay $190,560,099. So without my modifier, this is ~$272,228,712. Anyone else notice something similar?

Edit: also weird thing I just noticed:


Level 5: Output $2,200,000. Cost $271,950,000. Upgrade time 48 hours.
Prize: Red Light Gun, gun, 1233/1101
Level 6: Output $3,025,000. Cost $454,300,000. Upgrade time 54 hours.

These payouts match my payouts WITH bonuses, but for levels 4 and 5 instead of 5 and 6.

[Alex_]

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[Da_Boss]

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[Coldjoey]

I just got the Red light Gun for upgrading ToyBox from 4 to 5. Nothing unusual there. But it's still got 18 hours to complete!

[Euchred]

I just got the Red light Gun for upgrading ToyBox from 4 to 5. Nothing unusual there. But it's still got 18 hours to complete!

Same thing just happened to my bro, he was moving some buildings around and the goal popped up as complete.

[mxz]

Confirmed going to 6 on both accounts. Looks like some server error with the time keeping on whatever quest you were on.

[Dr BoneCrusher]

Ditto, on the same issue. I got the prize for 8th upgrade a day earlier.

[mxz]

Ditto, on the same issue. I got the prize for 8th upgrade a day earlier.1,000th post! Congrats, Dr. B!

[Dr BoneCrusher]

1,000th post! Congrats, Dr. B!

I didn't even notice, if I had, I would have started a thread! Thanks MXZ!

[Alex_]

My toy box is at level 5 currently upgrading to level 6 with 24 hours remaining and I've already received the level 6 reward 'the enforcers ride' which seems strange has anyone else received any building rewards before an upgrade has finished? It says 6/10 on my goals list as well as if I've already upgraded it.

[out of names]

Really wish I could build those buildings, but 40K iph is way to low

[dudeman]

My toy box is at level 5 currently upgrading to level 6 with 24 hours remaining and I've already received the level 6 reward 'the enforcers ride' which seems strange has anyone else received any building rewards before an upgrade has finished? It says 6/10 on my goals list as well as if I've already upgraded it.

Yes, and it's more than just a little weird. Is it broken now, even though this "issue" is occurring repeatedly for many people, or was it broken before? I suspect the former, but if the latter is true it means anyone who started a level 10 upgrade before time ran out but did not have time to actually complete the upgrade is missing an item from their inventory.

[Leezygeezer]

I'm afraid 759 mill is a little too pricey for my camper! I hope to make 7 in a couple of days with my 2 30% off mods on my main acc though :)

[vtwin]

Just started upgrade to level 4 and got the pop up that I received the prize. 42 hours left to build

[Alice]

Just started upgrade to level 7 and got the pop up that I received the prize of level 7. Does that mean we can start the final upgrade one second before deadline to get final prize? Or does the server automatically calculate the time left and determine whether to deliver the prize early?

[jmeijer]

Just started upgrade to level 7 and got the pop up that I received the prize of level 7. Does that mean we can start the final upgrade one second before deadline to get final prize? Or does the server automatically calculate the time left and determine whether to deliver the prize early?I guess that you'll receive the prize regardless of the time left. Started the same upgrade a few minutes ago and got the Bombshell (2256A/1595D) instantly.

[cditti]

Same thing happened as soon I I clicked upgrade got the item..

[rexx51]

So all of you guys are getting your rewards early...I on the other hand just completed the first level (just completed the build) and didn't receive any prizes aka the party favor. But I am now on the 2nd quest to upgrade to level 2....WTF

[Idiosyncrasy]

So all of you guys are getting your rewards early...I on the other hand just completed the first level (just completed the build) and didn't receive any prizes aka the party favor. But I am now on the 2nd quest to upgrade to level 2....WTF

I received the reward for the first upgrade instantly after hitting the upgrade button from level 1 to level 2.

[Dunky]

So all of you guys are getting your rewards early...I on the other hand just completed the first level (just completed the build) and didn't receive any prizes aka the party favor. But I am now on the 2nd quest to upgrade to level 2....WTF
Check ur inventory.. I didnt see a screen either which said "job complete - party favor"
but when I checked my inventory.. it was there ;)

[dissflowtr]

i didnt get the level 1 and level 2 rewards. but i got level 3 reward.
how can i get them

[Dunky]

i didnt get the level 1 and level 2 rewards. but i got level 3 reward.
how can i get them
Have u checked ur inventory? Else => Ticket to Gree(d) and wait for 2 weeks for answer..

[ZURENNARRH]

Just out of curiosity can you guys who managed to upgrade the Toy Box to level 6 tell me what level are you nightclubs? Mine are both lv3 and probably could have made the lv6 upgrade but I have chosen to get one of my NCs to lv4 now so I can get further on the next building

[Butt Futter]

Just out of curiosity can you guys who managed to upgrade the Toy Box to level 6 tell me what level are you nightclubs? Mine are both lv3 and probably could have made the lv6 upgrade but I have chosen to get one of my NCs to lv4 now so I can get further on the next building

My NC were level 6 when this even started and choose to upgrade both to 7 and still got my Toy Box to level 5 and could have easily done 6 but didn't.

[jmeijer]

Just out of curiosity can you guys who managed to upgrade the Toy Box to level 6 tell me what level are you nightclubs? Mine are both lv3 and probably could have made the lv6 upgrade but I have chosen to get one of my NCs to lv4 now so I can get further on the next buildingI upgraded it to 8. My NC's are 10 and 8.

[Alice]

Just out of curiosity can you guys who managed to upgrade the Toy Box to level 6 tell me what level are you nightclubs? Mine are both lv3 and probably could have made the lv6 upgrade but I have chosen to get one of my NCs to lv4 now so I can get further on the next building

mine are lv4 and 5 and I pushed toy box to lv8, I do have 3x -30% upgrade cost modifiers tho

[ZURENNARRH]

Thanks for all the replies, I think I should get both of mine to lv4 ASAP so I can ease up on the eternal search for time travellers to rob

[murf]

Just out of curiosity can you guys who managed to upgrade the Toy Box to level 6 tell me what level are you nightclubs? Mine are both lv3 and probably could have made the lv6 upgrade but I have chosen to get one of my NCs to lv4 now so I can get further on the next building

I got the ToyBox to L7, my NCs are L7/L8

[KemoKidd]

I got my toybox to 7. I could have done 8 but I chose to start donating a ton of money to my syndicate. I dont think it matters that my nightclubs are both level 6 as much as my iph being 6.2 mill. I also have 51% off upgrade costs and 32% reduction in upgrade times.

[montana]

It's always hard to tell with modifiers when numbers are off, but in this case, I noticed because I withdrew the additional money from my bank in anticipation of my prior upgrade completing and noticed I was still short.



I have 30% off upgrades, and had to pay $190,560,099. So without my modifier, this is ~$272,228,712. Anyone else notice something similar?

Edit: also weird thing I just noticed:


These payouts match my payouts WITH bonuses, but for levels 4 and 5 instead of 5 and 6.

I have the same problem with additional upgrade cost. Did you submit a ticket to Gree.

[BigMoney]

I have the same problem with additional upgrade cost. Did you submit a ticket to Gree.

Strange time to bump this topic, but no, I didn't. Just figured it was an error in the OP's table.

[montana]

Strange time to bump this topic, but no, I didn't. Just figured it was an error in the OP's table.

I am having the same problem with Transtech Building. This is an ongoing problem for me.
I submitted a ticket to Gree. Must be other people out there with same problem.

[Hutchinson]

Strange time to bump this topic, but no, I didn't. Just figured it was an error in the OP's table.

So the issue is about the data mentioned in this thread?
But the modifiers work as expected, no?

I always check the update first. Then the dialog box says me the required amount of cash which I then withdraw from the bank.
Did not face issue in this procedure.
But I use the values from this thread for orientation purpose only...