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JPetermon
05-29-2013, 06:08 AM
What is the best case scenario for non-gold or very light gold users? And this would apply to the active players.

Ssne
05-29-2013, 06:10 AM
60-70K points for someone who is strong, active, and in a faction with fully boosted health regen (along with a bridge jumper and a tomcat).

Maybe 100K if they don't sleep for 4 days.

Q Raider
05-29-2013, 06:38 AM
Free player can get a Comfortable 75k and that includes putting four into the wall straight up.

United Nation of Foxes
05-29-2013, 07:35 AM
Free player can get a Comfortable 75k and that includes putting four into the wall straight up.

Your be up all day and night trying to score that, not what I call comfortable !

Tito89
05-29-2013, 07:40 AM
my best was 25k, and i was defence leader, since then ive had a horror run of average 6k each war :(

BigD@wg
05-29-2013, 07:41 AM
I scored 56k (for free) in the last war. I occasionally hit the wall to help the team or scout for weaker players. If I had done nothing but wait for targets and used all hits on them... I could have easily hit 60-65k. I have an extra health boost now; so should be no problem in the next war.

Also that is with normal sleep. I don't lose sleep to play a game.

Edit: Don't forget to factor in the 4000ish points I didn't receive due to losing battles against players with less than 100k defense than my attack.

Andy240388
05-29-2013, 07:58 AM
I think it depends on your level massively, I'm over level 200 and I get 20-30k every time and I don't miss that many battles! If you can be a decoy for your faction then that helps a lot to get extra points (but that is for a top 750 faction). I know that if you play in a top 100 faction then everyone will be on 500 allies (or they were when I left a top 50 faction!)

JPetermon
05-29-2013, 08:16 AM
Your be up all day and night trying to score that, not what I call comfortable !

So what do you call comfortable?

Web323
05-29-2013, 08:18 AM
High level players roughly 50K and MLP & LLP could easily do 75-80K

S&H Max
05-29-2013, 08:21 AM
A player in a gold faction taht have intel and the wall is taken down can at least score 50kWD pts and sleep as he want!

But in a all free faction, you need DL down, you need to take down the wall, you need some scouting for intel, so probably 20k-30k would be a resonable assumption for and active player in a gold free not so organize faction!

SGT Rud
05-29-2013, 08:27 AM
I usually walk with 30k-40k. I have gotten up to 70k

Thats sleeping at night, and not missing any battles during the day. I would say that if you slept less than 5hrs a night, and played in almost all battles, you could reach up to 80-90k. But that all is part of the team work. If you are htting the wall, you are going to kiss that all goodbye. And is also based on scoring 350-400 points per hit. In Columbia, it seemed that everyone I went to hit was only dishing out 150-200 points.

Mr. Pink
05-29-2013, 08:42 AM
I scored 90k in a past WD events playing free due to:

1. Having the lowest ally count in the faction. I was attacked a lot more often.
2. My level was in the low 70s and my defense stats could defeat most level 100+. This generated a ton of defensive wins and points.
3. We were in the top 1000-500 and getting matched up with similar factions. The opponent wasn't as organized or sophisticated and I would literally rack up 5-10 defensive wins in battle since no one on the other side talked to each other.

I think factions are getting a lot smarter about these things and you're seeing more organization even among the top 1000 factions.

Thief
05-29-2013, 08:47 AM
Many Factors to consider:

I think 50k WD points is a reasonable Average number.

vball
05-29-2013, 09:27 AM
As thief said many factors, but for my main account, I score around 75-80k WD points per event without any gold.

ppownage
05-29-2013, 09:58 AM
to bad most people in the faction im in sleep when im awake. only got 15k but attacked the walls at least another 50 times

JPetermon
05-29-2013, 11:22 AM
I usually walk with 30k-40k. I have gotten up to 70k

Thats sleeping at night, and not missing any battles during the day. I would say that if you slept less than 5hrs a night, and played in almost all battles, you could reach up to 80-90k. But that all is part of the team work. If you are htting the wall, you are going to kiss that all goodbye. And is also based on scoring 350-400 points per hit. In Columbia, it seemed that everyone I went to hit was only dishing out 150-200 points.

Agreed that it seemed the points being dished out in Colombia were lower than usual. What's your level vs attack/defense?

ohgreatitsryan
05-29-2013, 11:35 AM
Assuming you don't have regen units, and regen maxed, and let's say you are average stats, so you won't find a target every fight. With the wall up always, 25k, down sometimes 35k, and always down 50k. That wouldn't be too hard, but you'd have to be on a lot and very active.

ohgreatitsryan
05-29-2013, 11:36 AM
I was able to score 97.3k WD points without a single gold bar spent. I was around lvl 170 and I am in a top 25 faction. Being DL helps and haveing a 38 min full regen also pushed me along. This is probably close to the high watermark one can aim for when freeplaying.

I'm just going to assume they won't have your stats Stryker.

BostonHammer
05-29-2013, 11:50 AM
I got 87+K in Ireland with no gold including hits on the wall. In Columbia, it was about 67K but I missed a day. I'm relatively low level (90) with very high stats (300+k) and play on a iPhone which makes it easier. But I agree with Thief, on average a free player should be getting at least 50k WD points

ExtremeP7
05-29-2013, 01:00 PM
These estimates are extremely over-inflated. I played hourly for Colombia, getting in 8 attacks per battle. I am also the defense leader. My stats were 80K attack, 106K defense. Even busting my ass, I only grabbed 30K. What the prior commentors are overlooking is the importance of the rest of the faction. Only with support can you score above 10-20K in any given war, even if you're a reasonably strong and very active player.

Prvt. Parts
05-29-2013, 01:06 PM
These estimates are extremely over-inflated. I played hourly for Colombia, getting in 8 attacks per battle. I am also the defense leader. My stats were 80K attack, 106K defense. Even busting my ass, I only grabbed 30K. What the prior commentors are overlooking is the importance of the rest of the faction. Only with support can you score above 10-20K in any given war, even if you're a reasonably strong and very active player.

Haha, maybe you need a new faction bro.

Seriously though, the stats everyone on here is saying are way higher than what should be expected. Maybe a free player with high stats in a top 500 faction with gold players could get 75K. Other than that 10-20K is more to be expected.

Thief
05-29-2013, 01:38 PM
Okay when i realized that there is a very large swing in numbers i thought i should do a little bit of math to help others out.

First As a free player i'm going to assume your Regen is around 11 min and 45 seconds. I believe that is where most free players are currently at roughly. some might not use the forums though and might have no idea that through a pvp ltq and PVE ltq they couldn't get 2 different 20% health regen units. I'm also assuming almost every faction has 6/6 faction bonus for health regen

Now we know that the Events are 73 hours.
Since this is Best Case Scenario I will make an assumption they get 24 hours of personal/sleep time during those 3 days and that they are being provided intel.

Therefore that leaves 49 hours or 2940 min. 2940/11.75=250+12 (4 hits after sleep)
Thats 262 Hits. Now thats a solid number. The WD points will range unfortunately because you can't know what you will get but i will use 250 as an average.

262x250=65,500 Under "Best" Case Scenario. Ie no failed attacks, No Wall hits.
Obviously this doesn't account for Attacks failed by opposing faction or insomniacs.
Also low level players usually get better than 250 average but not HLP.

Adm.J
05-29-2013, 02:26 PM
I think you are being far to generous in your regen-boost assumptions, but that's my opinion.

Gnorax
05-29-2013, 02:43 PM
I'm a free weak player and my at was 40k, i still got 20k wd points, I'm at 95k att so I'm hoping to get 50k easy

jchow69
05-29-2013, 02:46 PM
Your be up all day and night trying to score that, not what I call comfortable !

Played from 9 in the morning to 10 at night every day and scored 12k points free.

ohgreatitsryan
05-29-2013, 03:00 PM
In a top 50 faction, at level 185, with 200k attack, during Ireland I was only able to score 34k WD points. That was with great scouting, and all walls down. I also had to spend gold. My level 55 account, with only 120k attack and horrible stat swings, in the same faction, was able to get over 60k WD points almost for free. It depends on your level, your stats, and the bracket you are competing in.

Mudphud
05-29-2013, 03:01 PM
Okay when i realized that there is a very large swing in numbers i thought i should do a little bit of math to help others out.

First As a free player i'm going to assume your Regen is around 11 min and 45 seconds. I believe that is where most free players are currently at roughly. some might not use the forums though and might have no idea that through a pvp ltq and PVE ltq they couldn't get 2 different 20% health regen units. I'm also assuming almost every faction has 6/6 faction bonus for health regen

Now we know that the Events are 73 hours.
Since this is Best Case Scenario I will make an assumption they get 24 hours of personal/sleep time during those 3 days and that they are being provided intel.

Therefore that leaves 49 hours or 2940 min. 2940/11.75=250+12 (4 hits after sleep)
Thats 262 Hits. Now thats a solid number. The WD points will range unfortunately because you can't know what you will get but i will use 250 as an average.

262x250=65,500 Under "Best" Case Scenario. Ie no failed attacks, No Wall hits.
Obviously this doesn't account for Attacks failed by opposing faction or insomniacs.
Also low level players usually get better than 250 average but not HLP.

I agree with your calculations, but this also assumes an organized faction around you. I have scored anywhere from 58k in an organized group that battled about 65% of the # of hours to 25k in an unorganized group where I had to hit the wall and scout.