LTQs are now a piece of junk.

[DanL]

I have been here for almost every LTQ they've come up with since they began it with the pvp one first. It used to be very fun to bust your ass and get rewarded for it. Now look a this recent one. 76k energy required......For 23 missions on NORMAL. I've just seen Devin's thread, and he has spent 760 gold on normal mode despite pre-staging the levels. The real kick in the groin is the stat return you get for completing normal. 5.1k ATK and 4.1k DEF.

I don't get mad about this gam, but this is the most bull**** I've seen yet. I feel really bad about Devin. Sure you named a unit after him, but it's going to cost him $100 to get it. CJ I really am disappointed in Gree. I know you are trying to make money, but this is just pure greed.

Sorry, fellas, for venting in the forums. Just really hate the fact that were getting the shaft here.

[TYR_Rune]

1. More and more energy is required.
2. Prizes' stats get lesser and lesser.
3. No more boost!
4. LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST: WE GET FAR LESS VALOR NOW!

[KFH]

It was a nice run

[Josh611]

People complained when they were too good

Now people complain when they're not good

They're trying to get people to spend that 40% off gold

They'll be back to normal sooner or later

[jjm521]

Yeah it used to be youd get about one point is stat bump per 5 energy to 1 per 10 energy last time, to 1 per 15 this time....thats some serious pullback

[DanL]

People complained when they were too good

Now people complain when they're not good

They're trying to get people to spend that 40% off gold

They'll be back to normal sooner or later

I will admit that the first LTQ like this was a little too much on terms of stats. Right now though Gree is just making it based on spending money. If the stats are going to be only 5.1k ATK with 4.1k DEF then there should be no reason to have a required 76k energy to complete normal. If I didn't pre-stage my map, I would barely be able to get normal completed on free play.

The LTQ during Ireland was a very nice stabilized event I thought. What has messed this event up is that they try to do two of these type of events within three weeks. They need to stop making these LTQ events worse and worse, and stop punishing us because we got smart and started pre-staging the map.

Like I said before, this event right here is some serious bull****.

[Oceanz]

I have to agree this event requires way too much energy for the units you gain.

Maybe the best strategy is to only participate in every other LTQ event, so you can prestage for about 6 weeks? That seems like the only way to complete it on Normal without using gold. And I have about 3300 energy.

[Lyle_Henderson]

It's all good, I'm a gold player and in a top 10 faction, Gree has screwed theirselves being greedy, our whole faction has decided to opt out, Gree has been going downhill for to long now, they don't care about the players, they are only out for the money, look at the last event +2 energy we never received because they weren't meant to stack, well guess what Gree, have it your way, you just lost $60,000 month from our faction because each player spends about $1,000 a month congratulations.

[DanL]

$60,000 a month from your faction? Holy smokes that's a lot of chedda. Lol, I might spend $20-30 every other month. I couldn't fathom spending that much though.

[jsh_five]

completing normal I find that i want too spend gold more when the ltq is within reason like normal you can complete with no gold but prestige mode require gold i mean if that is how it is more ppl spend money not when you get greedy and make normal require gold that's crazy and if its cuz they are gold units well make them non indestructible units for normal mode with a gold unit for completing normal then use all gold indestructible units in prestige mode that would make the game more fun for everyone. thats my advice gree one business owner to another.

[Jhoemel]

Yeah this one has a very bad return for ur energy investment

[jjm521]

, you just lost $60,000 month from our faction because each player spends about $1,000 a month congratulations.

Wow, is that the lawyers guild or something? 😳

[DanL]

Wow, is that the lawyers guild or something? 😳

It is not my place to judge anyone on what they spend their hard-earned money on. In fact I commend Lyle for standing up for his values.

[King Dante!]

That's what you guys get for advertising "prestaging"

[Mad]

I always weigh the amount of XP gained against the units received. This LTQ is a poor deal, so I am not playing it. It simply isn't worth levelling up for the units I would receive.

It is kind of nice to take some time off.

[DanL]

You have a point there, King, but is it right to punish everyone because we are preparing for the event so it costs less on us in terms of money and time?

[Armand2REP]

It's all good, I'm a gold player and in a top 10 faction, Gree has screwed theirselves being greedy, our whole faction has decided to opt out, Gree has been going downhill for to long now, they don't care about the players, they are only out for the money, look at the last event +2 energy we never received because they weren't meant to stack, well guess what Gree, have it your way, you just lost $60,000 month from our faction because each player spends about $1,000 a month congratulations.

$1000 a month? ahahahaha... i've heard of cheaper crack addictions.

[Armand2REP]

completing normal I find that i want too spend gold more when the ltq is within reason like normal you can complete with no gold but prestige mode require gold i mean if that is how it is more ppl spend money not when you get greedy and make normal require gold that's crazy and if its cuz they are gold units well make them non indestructible units for normal mode with a gold unit for completing normal then use all gold indestructible units in prestige mode that would make the game more fun for everyone. thats my advice gree one business owner to another.

Of course, you are far more likely to spend gold if the reward is worth the expenditure. GREE needs to realize they are just screwing themselves by making events too expensive for the reward.

[Jhenry02]

I always weigh the amount of XP gained against the units received. This LTQ is a poor deal, so I am not playing it. It simply isn't worth levelling up for the units I would receive.

It is kind of nice to take some time off.

So you're telling me that you won't play in this ltq? Wow that must be a revelation to some people, you don't have to spend money or play this LTQ if you don't to. I wish I could be more sarcastic but I am too tired.

People if you don't like the event, don't participate. Mad couldn't have said it better. Actions speak louder than words, don't participate if you don't like the ltq.

[Paul Wall]

You're absolutely right!


I will admit that the first LTQ like this was a little too much on terms of stats. Right now though Gree is just making it based on spending money. If the stats are going to be only 5.1k ATK with 4.1k DEF then there should be no reason to have a required 76k energy to complete normal. If I didn't pre-stage my map, I would barely be able to get normal completed on free play.

The LTQ during Ireland was a very nice stabilized event I thought. What has messed this event up is that they try to do two of these type of events within three weeks. They need to stop making these LTQ events worse and worse, and stop punishing us because we got smart and started pre-staging the map.

Like I said before, this event right here is some serious bull****.

[King Dante!]

You have a point there, King, but is it right to punish everyone because we are preparing for the event so it costs less on us in terms of money and time?
Not at all, but it seems that's the name of the game. It seems like its a constant battle between Gree and it's customers to get us to spend as much as possible for these events.If certain event is not making Gree enough money, they're going to find a way to "tweak" it to require us to spend more.

-The reason collect 10 events are so rare now, they dont make enough money
-The reason boss events now require 50 defeats, they werent making enough money. (Since health regens, camping and the 13 hit strategy were introduced, players were using less and less gold to defeat 35.)
-The reason WD is 2 times a month instead of 1.. I think you get the picture lol

[KFH]

That's what you guys get for advertising "prestaging"whatever you have thought of, they have. Nothing bad came from writing about prestaging

[King Dante!]

whatever you have thought of, they have. Nothing bad came from writing about prestaging
Gree, the same company responsible for prematurely releasing hundreds of glitched events, you're giving credit to for having already factored "prestaging" into LTQs?

lol thats funny.

[Lyle_Henderson]

It is not my place to judge anyone on what they spend their hard-earned money on. In fact I commend Lyle for standing up for his values. Thank you for understanding, but I'm done spending for now.

[Lyle_Henderson]

The CARTEL: out of all people are going to post stop complaining are you serious or is this a joke? You guys complain more than anyone else in MW and your going to tell people to stop complaining? Weren't you guys the ones complaining about how much money you were spending, oh and how Gree is cheating the players, and how to save gold and money joining you guys, STFU you are the last ones who need to be posting anything saying stop complaining, we are players have the right to complain, you now do not you hypocritical idiot

[glitters]

Vent off the steam. Everyone has the right to complain. It's unhealthy if you don't.

[glitters]

On the other hand, it's difficult to tell what exactly it is that you players want. When stats on prizes are too high, players complain of stat inflation. When they are too low, they complain it's bad value for energy/gold/XP gain.

I don't keep a record of the complaint makers. I just hope it's not the same people arguing on both ends.

[DanL]

Vent off the steam. Everyone has the right to complain. It's unhealthy if you don't.

Yeah this event has really ground my gears if I could borrow a line from Family Guy. It's not myself that I'm giving constructive critism for, it's people like Devin who help others and also the guys/gals like Lyle who spend their hard earned money on this game only to be dictated by Gree how much more they need to spend to stay ahead of the curve.

If there is one thing I could say before I call it a night, it's this. During the first PvE LTQ one of the aspects I liked was that you had a choice of three missions at any given time each progression through the missions unlocked the next tiers and rewards. If there was something I'd like to of kept from that first experience and revive back into this event, it would be that.

Now I'm sure some of you would like to see something stay the same that doesn't exactly make it too good in terms of being overpowered and unsustainable. Also I'm glad you all didn't get hostile in this thread, so I thank you for that. Vent if need be, but lets keep this civil ladies and gentlemen. Goodnight!

[SPWD]

Couldn't agree more mate, our faction has boycotted it, I mean 400 valour or 3k energy for 75k cash and concrete ffs
.

[Arnaud]

They're trying to get people to spend that 40% off gold

I doubt it's the reason: the better the rewards, the more gold will be spent by players to get them. They probably didn't release bonus units because of the stack problem. I assume they didn't have enough time to finda solution before the event started.

No one is gonna spend gold on this LTQ as the rewards don't worth it. At least I won't. No regrets.

[Tito89]

sure that the ltqs and everything else is bad, but the only way is up, unless gree has some serious mining tools

[Dutchie]

Look people... it is what it is... take it or leave it! Remember you don't have to play in EVERY event. Pick and choose your events and...

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[megaants]

Look people... it is what it is... take it or leave it! Remember you don't have to play in EVERY event. Pick and choose your events and...

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so true dutchie. I wish they made more LTQ like this. less stat inflation n__n and obviously (more power to me)

[United Nation of Foxes]

It's all good, I'm a gold player and in a top 10 faction, Gree has screwed theirselves being greedy, our whole faction has decided to opt out, Gree has been going downhill for to long now, they don't care about the players, they are only out for the money, look at the last event +2 energy we never received because they weren't meant to stack, well guess what Gree, have it your way, you just lost $60,000 month from our faction because each player spends about $1,000 a month congratulations.

Jokes on you for spending that much !

[GuyInLobsterSuit]

Just don't play the LTQ.
Every one gets a vote.

[Paisthecoolest]

I won't be spending money on this quest because there are no good units with boosts to shoot for. If Gree wants to make money, they need to put a carrot out there in order to get us to spend.

[DanL]

Look people... it is what it is... take it or leave it! Remember you don't have to play in EVERY event. Pick and choose your events and...

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My friend. We all know that we can choose whether or not to play this event. This morning I just said to hell with it and started prestaging the map for the next event. However that doesn't mean we should play hush hush over this matter. I was fortunate enough to read Devin's thread and see exactly how much energy was required last night so I stopped.

Now I'm not condoning everyone to do what I did, but I wasn't about to waste a level for 4k more stats. Play through this if you want. The reason, however, why I created this thread was to voice my opinion to Gree and anyone who would care to listen about how bad this LTQ event has become. I never believed they should've made this event twice in three weeks. They had a good balance back in Ireland or even the one before that. If anything I wouldn't mind if they brought back the part where it shows three quests at a time from back in the first one.

Dutchie I want you to understand that I play this for free, and respect anyone who does so differently or the same. With that said I am not "Trolling" over this issue because it is the first issue and only one since playing that I've had. These LTQs gave us free players an avenue towards higher stats to play WD effectively. It also helped money users as well by not putting such a big dent in their wallets to obtain good units.

The only other opinion I try to express to Gree is for the WD events. I believe if they keep the point system based on levels, then they should take away the level difference portion so that way my fellow faction members with high levels can get a fair shot at playing. However I would imagine there is a better system to determine points out there, just need to try some hit and miss trials in a private server.