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puffypete
05-26-2013, 08:29 AM
Are there any guidelines to what is recommended for attack and defense stats per level and income per hour?

Or what do you think it should be?

Dom3
05-26-2013, 08:33 AM
As much attack as possible with lowest level possible with highest IPH possible at the same time.

jchow69
05-26-2013, 08:34 AM
I think that the recommended stats are stats about your rivals' stats. My unboosted stats are level 96 with 70k attack and defense. In Celestial Soldiers, my stats are 75k/85k.

TWAG
05-26-2013, 08:37 AM
You usually want lvl * 1000 for Attack and Defense. So if your level 90, you want 90k Attack and 90k Defense.

However once you start getting really good units, you'll find it easier to get much more than that. One of my accounts is around lvl 105 with 120k attack and 130k defense.

manlikesam
05-26-2013, 12:53 PM
for someone around level 100 stats like 85k plus would be good

whitefire
05-26-2013, 03:20 PM
for someone around level 100 stats like 85k plus would be good
That depends on your definition of good. I would say 'ok'. Especially with the current stat inflation, 1k/level is good. For defense it's actually a bit higher as def is easier (faction upgrades much cheaper, composites factory etc). For def the good level is more 1.25k/lvl.

Minister Timothy
05-26-2013, 03:26 PM
I used to think that 1000 per level was good. But that was before the statflation and faction wars. If someone is in a faction or on android they never really know what their real stats are, but get this. I wanted to be at 100k by the time I was level 100 and that was good nine months ago. right now I am L71 and have 120a/150d, but when I look at my rivals list I have to really hunt for someone to raid or attack because most are similar or higher. There were no units out there over 1000a a year ago but now they routinely give out 3-5k stat units up to 10k so the dynamic of this game has really changed. 200k defense is the new 100k defense barometor, and the sooner you reach it the better if you dont want to be fodder and have your newsfeed red all the time. It used to take gold to accomplish this but with the larger units given if you can maintain a top, say, 250 faction and defeat enough bosses with good fortunes on the rares it is attainable. I would go easy on these ltq`s because like the last one they can trap you with small units and huge xp. Go high enough to get a good bonus unit if available and call it quits. Prestige is for the higher levels and the longer you can stay away from those million attack plus players the better for you.

Brahmin
05-26-2013, 03:50 PM
I don't think 1k/level cuts it anymore. I think now 1k/level is average at best. Good stats in my opinion are somewhere between 1.5 and 2 times your level. I have to agree with minister timothy, these ltq's are killing people on xp gains, sure you gain some nice units but when you consider you are passing right through boss tiers is just doesn't seem worth it. If you compare stat gain/xp from boss events to ltq's you end up with a much better ratio from boss events. However with that being said completely ignoring these ltq's might not be such a good idea either because of the modifier units they can come with. It all depends on how far into the event you have to go to get these units. And now that we know there will be no stacking the long term value of playing Ltq's for these type of units comes into question. As far as IPH, I would say if you're way below a million by level 100 something is wrong. You should at least be close to a million by then. Just my opinion though.

S&H Max
05-26-2013, 03:51 PM
Yep I have over 2k by level and in the whale zone its barely enouph!

ohgreatitsryan
05-26-2013, 04:15 PM
Under level 100, 2.5k per level is "good," over level 100 I'd say 4k per level is "good."

jchow69
05-26-2013, 04:16 PM
I gotta skyrocket my stats, while stalling on my levels.

jchow69
05-26-2013, 04:17 PM
I faced a guy at same level as me (96) with 35k stats. lol

ohgreatitsryan
05-26-2013, 04:34 PM
I find people every day at level 75 with less than 10k attack. Too bad they never have anything worth raiding.

jchow69
05-26-2013, 04:37 PM
I find people every day at level 75 with less than 10k attack. Too bad they never have anything worth raiding.

Ya, I kept on attacking this guy with 18k defense and got 300000 cash every time.

Armand2REP
05-26-2013, 04:52 PM
Aim for 1000 per level until 50, then 2k per to 100, then 4k per and above.

Pace
05-26-2013, 07:02 PM
I think 4k per level above 100 is a little steep. To put some numbers behind it - at level 150, that's 600k. With 2k units, that's 300 stat per unit. Now I know faction bonuses, boost buildings and a few ltqs can add 50%, were still taking 150-200 raw stats on average. No cash unit is above...50?

Only big gold players are at 4k/level.

ohgreatitsryan
05-26-2013, 07:21 PM
It may be hard to get to, but if you are under 350k defense by the time you hit level 150, you better plan on never collecting from your buildings, unless you are no more than 5 minutes late.

S&H Max
05-26-2013, 07:57 PM
yep at 150 your def need to start with at least a 3 if you to survive, or make sure all your building paysout less than 1mil...

stephen2013
05-26-2013, 08:04 PM
Yep I have over 2k by level and in the whale zone its barely enouph!

Me too! I have just under 2 x for attack, and just over 2 x for defense. I'm far from the whale some though!


I feel like IPH has almost become irrelevant. I don't buy cash units to gain A/D anymore. All of it comes from valor in PVP and event units from boss events, LTQs, and especially WD events.

stephen2013
05-26-2013, 08:10 PM
I faced a guy at same level as me (96) with 35k stats. lol

Sent it great when people blind attack you?
I can only imagine the horror on their faces when they find out they just attacked a guy with 5 time the stats of their own lol.

Derrick chua
05-26-2013, 08:31 PM
Me too! I have just under 2 x for attack, and just over 2 x for defense. I'm far from the whale some though!


I feel like IPH has almost become irrelevant. I don't buy cash units to gain A/D anymore. All of it comes from valor in PVP and event units from boss events, LTQs, and especially WD events.

I totally agree that iph is totally useless had not been buying cash units for some time. I am on lvl 117 250 attack and jus under 300 def still i lose once every 2 days! They are always bigger sharks out there! Focus on upgrading your all boost buildings.

Armand2REP
05-26-2013, 08:33 PM
Sent it great when people blind attack you?
I can only imagine the horror on their faces when they find out they just attacked a guy with 5 time the stats of their own lol.

It happens to me everyday. They never have anything worth hitting back.

The new guy
05-26-2013, 08:48 PM
It is never enough the stronger you get the bigger the bulls eye on you gets. I see people with 1.5m defense and they get farmed nonstop since they are great BP to those with higher stats. I am at 700k defense now and it seems to be a relatively sweet spot where I do get hit often from people around the 1M mark but not much by those higher since I’m not worth the stam.

I actaully found the best spot was about 200k (probably higher now) were you are too high for free players and too low for gold players

nkeywithdnb
05-27-2013, 12:57 AM
And I thought I was doing good at Level 91 with 40k att & def

sraghav42
05-27-2013, 01:33 AM
I think I am ok but not good as a free player
Level 75 78k att and 90k def.

ohgreatitsryan
05-27-2013, 02:04 AM
I'm level 75, 215k/280k and I'm still getting raided.

MoD
05-27-2013, 03:01 AM
and stay below lv 150 for as long as possible. boss gets annoying once you are higher.

sraghav42
05-27-2013, 05:58 AM
I think I am ok but not good as a free player
Level 75 78k att and 90k def.
Can someone attack me and post the result here I wanna check the top defence units and my defence stat

Account name is raghav -level 75

I am a cow
05-27-2013, 06:09 AM
1000x your level is good for example level 100

100k defense
100k attack ( a bit less would be ok too)