SAS: The worst cheats in CC history

[bald zeemer]

There is very little to be said. The evidence speaks volumes.

Some slight background info: Baddad was a top SAS player, putting down significantly more IP points than the "leaders" of SAS. He eventually decided that his contributions of gold, time and direct cash payments were not being met by equal dedication. Rather than allowing a player who had scored around 10m IP points for the team move on with his CC career, Vlad and a few other key players decided to attempt to hack baddad's account.

Here there is discussion of utilising baddad's account to score IP points for SAS when baddad was sleeping:
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/caughtoffense_zpsdbcfe227.jpg

Here they discuss squandering all of baddad's gold, and also admit to hacking into a fellow SAS player's account to score more IP in a previous war:

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_1070_zps5f5f4f7a.jpg

Here, they discuss giving all of BD's in-game cash into the FC syndicate bank (essentially throwing it away, as FC has all upgrades), including a screenshot proving they were using his account, and had indeed given away the cash:

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/dumpingcash_zpsc8df7b94.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/dupingcash2_zpsc98a098a.jpg

Here they say that they were utilising his UDID to hack into his account:

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/vladeggingon_zps497e42a7.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/deposit-withdrawal_zps75b98fe1.jpg

And here they discuss making BD leave FC minutes before the war started. They eventually decide to leave it this war, and go for next war (ie, the war coming up next weekend):

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/kickingBD_zps4f7ef02b.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/voting_zpsdca24ba6.jpg


On a similar, yet unrelated matter, Vlad has been utilising the "money pool" in SAS for his own personal gain. Essentially accepting donations of real life cash made by other members for the purpose of scoring IP points, then using it to pay off his gold debt and boost his own stats. Furthermore, despite the ongoing claim that SAS is leading an anti-hacking crusade (including the gold boycott) Vlad was in fact covering up hackers within SAS, even from his own members.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_1037_zpsfb724beb.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_1038_zps29caf554.jpg

Edit: Just to clarify, I don't believe that the majority of the rank and file of SAS were aware of this. It was planned and conducted from the officer's chat room. One of the officers stood up against what was happening - I have redacted their name from the exchanges so as to not have them associated with what happened.

I applaud this member wholeheartedly, for showing outstanding moral courage.

[Senator McCarthy]

Thanks for bringing this to light. SAS should be disqualified for purposely using Hacked players and the weapons and rewards taken away by Gree. If Gree doesn't do this... there is precedent set that using hackers is allowed and is open season for syndicates to cheat.

[wa7sh]

how would i know that you didn't edit all of that?

[kingofwale]

if alligation is true. I believe SAS should be disbanded. This kind of acts are downright disgusting if proven.


I have to say that it's not looking good for them so far.

[Rastas]

how would i know that you didn't edit all of that?

Exactly! After being rejected by both SAS and FC it appears that Zeemer has too much time on his hands and too much hostility towards them.

Its a shame though, if he focused his energy elsewhere he could actually accomplish something positive for once in his life.

[bald zeemer]

One of the people shown in those chats confirmed it on my wall in-game. You can read that if you want - it's still there.

Alternatively, you could use some common sense.

[kingofwale]

I think the best way to prove this is a direct account from Baddad, if he states that he has lost gold during this hacking, then it's the truth then

[CohibAA]

No popcorn, but at least I have some sunflower seeds. Good read.

[Droop1972]

I imagine that SAS will offer proof that this is false in the unlikely event that it is.

[CitrineMondeoRSi]

This is of major concern. Wow.

[(CK) EL]

Bad Dad not only confirms all the above but has reported them to Support.
Gree's announcement ...
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?55805-Personal-Information-Safety
came right after that.
I am sure many "new" forum members will try to troll the issue but it is too big to be trolled.

oh.. and Balthazar has never been booted from FC. He decided to leave for one war and returned right after.

[tam...]

If it is false then I am sure SAS will be able to refute the posted information.

[bald zeemer]

I think the best way to prove this is a direct account from Baddad, if he states that he has lost gold during this hacking, then it's the truth then

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/baddadkakao1_zps054cf8a5.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/baddadkakao2_zps2b929b66.jpg

[CohibAA]

Way to go GREE; put out a generic Announcement, but don't address the actual issue, or ban the players involved. What a surprise. Too much money to be lost having integrity, I suppose.

[tam...]

There is one 'fact' that shows something has been reported to Gree. It is the sticky that has been posted by the Admins/ Gree in regards to all players protecting their personal information. That information has only been posted recently

[Senator McCarthy]

I say Guilty and there needs to be a blacklist of people aiding and abetting cheaters.

Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of SAS?

[PC77]

Brings extra meaning to the name of the game, Wow!! This is theft and a whole lot more on a serious level. Real life fuzz are going to get involved in this and I hope those involved get dealt with.

[BigMoney]

Wow. If this is true, GREE ought to deliver some serious consequences for it.

[Senator McCarthy]

If Gree doesn't act... I guess we can start cheating. Our syndicate needs the last two influence upgrades. Any cash hacks willing to come over and make a deposit? Any SAS cheaters?

It is time to take away all weapons won in syndicate battle by SAS today, take away all weapons tomorrow, and take away all weapons forever.

[sl.aus]

Well at least SILENT Assasins are true to their namesake by keeping silent.

Montecore, Matt Thomas and other previously outspoken SAS members where are you? Care to comment?

[Blueshoot]

Scum!!! They need arresting

[Ragmondino]

Just to be clear here, it is not all members of SAS involved in this. Vlad, Ian, killshot certainly are..
This is a very serious issue and I think gree needs to show that this is not, an will not be tolerated. Something certainly needs to be done. SAS need to come online and address the situation as well.
This is indeed theft. It is not just a free game. It's real money being spent.
We need answers and bad dad needs action.

[bald zeemer]

Very good point Rag, and I'll edit my initial post to reflect it.
I don't believe for a second that the majority of SAS players knew about this. Their officers certainly did, and from what I've seen only one of them took a stand against the actions (redacted in the original post so as to not have their name associated with any of the actions that occur).

[Rastas]

One of the people shown in those chats confirmed it on my wall in-game. You can read that if you want - it's still there.

Just out of curiosity, why would anyone involved in such a scheme confess it to you? They would be implicating themselves in a crime if it were the case.

[Rastas]

Very good point Rag, and I'll edit my initial post to reflect it.
I don't believe for a second that the majority of SAS players knew about this. Their officers certainly did, and from what I've seen only one of them took a stand against the actions (redacted in the original post so as to not have their name associated with any of the actions that occur).

When did this happen? If it happened a while ago then there is no point in redacting their name as they are just as guilty as the rest for staying silent on this issue.

[Ragmondino]

It's recent issue

[kingofwale]

Come on Gree, this is your chance to insert some leadership!!

Don't drop the call this time. Bring down the hammer!!!!

[VNX Alano]

Hi all - I think we all agree that Gree should/have to react on such threats and in general have to take care on the cheaters much more. Seems so easy for them to control the obvious cheaters...but also seems Gree doesnt really want. I wonder why? Lot of people loosing the fun of this game as beated all the time by cheaters.

Please Gree react.

[Olly 1]

I don't think too many people will be surprised Vlad has a hand in this. He's been called out on this loads, despite his "we don't accept hackers" posts. Many other people around here knew it too.

Gree will be looking in to this, I have no doubt. But don't expect them to be posting anything on here at all relating to this matter. They simply aren't able to. So no need to call them out just yet.

Some perfect evidence here though, Baddad. Should be pretty easy for you to follow this up outside of Gree.

[Joeycool]

Do you have permission to post private conversations publicly bald Zeemer?

You should be banned for doing so. This thread serves one purpose. To blacken the name of SAS.

Have a nice day.

[Rastas]

Do you have permission to post private conversations publicly bald Zeemer?

You should be banned for doing so. This thread serves one purpose. To blacken the name of SAS.

Have a nice day.

Totally agree, foul gossip and slander as far as I'm concerned.

[zangief]

coming from FC myself, it pains me to see a fellow member treated this way after so much he done for SAS.as for such long silence from officers of SAS,It's official and case closed ! those who choose to remain in SAS as of now are all a P.O.S. ; kudos to the whistle blower!

[tam...]

I guess this information being made public has upset the merger plans of/ between SAS and the Indians

[Blueshoot]

Silent Hackers Indian Tribe - ****

[Kleptomaniac]

Lol nice blue

[Kleptomaniac]

I guess this information being made public has upset the merger plans of/ between SAS and the Indians

I am sure they were aware of what was done n hoped it wasn't made public to continue with the merge

[mxz]

Honorary Henchperson title well deserved, bald zeemer. Your detective work is superb and thorough. This is absolutely repulsive.

I'm personally disgusted, having dealt with a few SAShole officers caught in the middle of this, that they had the guts to call out my, as well as well respected forumites', integrity.

Thanks for your courage (and eventual ban on here, unfortunately) to bring this to light.
If they used any of baddad's gold that he used real money to purchase, is it not theft, fraud, or both?

BTW: I was going to bring up the point that all along people have bashed the Indians and now FC. I was going to mention that I could never see the Indians stooping to such a disgustingly low level....but then Joey Cool showed his support for These actions. Nice move JC, you've completely lost all touch with reality.The Indians supporting this scheme is absolutely classless, agreed. Just as repulsive as the SASholes involved.

[(CK) EL]

Do you have permission to post private conversations publicly bald Zeemer?

You should be banned for doing so. This thread serves one purpose. To blacken the name of SAS.

Have a nice day.
So when somebody delivers a bad message to you joey, you shoot the postman!!
Intresting aproach by the leader of indians...
Have a nice day also

[Desire]

Not that im anyone, but I have seen the unedited version...may even still have..only thing missing/changed that I see are the names.



how would i know that you didn't edit all of that?

[sister morphine]

If what is being discussed here is true, it's perhaps the most revolting episode I've seen in this game.

But, in the interests of completeness at least two people whose names are left in the open on the published chat screens are also signatories to the letter with the redacted names at bottom. So, who to believe.

[SoccerStud]

Do you have permission to post private conversations publicly bald Zeemer?

You should be banned for doing so. This thread serves one purpose. To blacken the name of SAS.

Have a nice day.
Are you kidding me? What the hell is wrong with you! Did you even read the thread? If this isn't a major issue that should be fixed then I have no idea what is. And the fact that you would agree with the actions is just awful. You used to be a respected forum member. Now what are you? He probably lost thousands of dollars worth of CC gold. That's sickening...

[the_brein]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s210/the_brein/fc735a5c2253094301a1d0938005b15f.jpg

[bald zeemer]

The morally upstanding member with name redacted on the chats was also a signatory. Just for the interest of full disclosure.

[mxz]

The morally upstanding member with name redacted on the chats was also a signatory. Just for the interest of full disclosure.Let me guess...it wasn't Montecore. :rolleyes:

[Desire]

So agree Rags...thanks for helping to keep/put focus on most important issues


Just to be clear here, it is not all members of SAS involved in this. Vlad, Ian, killshot certainly are..
This is a very serious issue and I think gree needs to show that this is not, an will not be tolerated. Something certainly needs to be done. SAS need to come online and address the situation as well.
This is indeed theft. It is not just a free game. It's real money being spent.
We need answers and bad dad needs action.

[HoneyBadger3]

how does gree fix this? every syndicate in the game was affected to some degree. guess most importantly...what are any of you going to do now that this has been brought to light?

[Lars]

bald zeemer, thank you for bringing this up.

The reported actions themselves, they make me speechless.

[kingofwale]

how does gree fix this? every syndicate in the game was affected to some degree. guess most importantly...what are any of you going to do now that this has been brought to light?

The least the gree could do is ban all those involved.

I would prefer if they report that to police because it is clearly theft.

[Dipstik]

The popcorn is especially delicious this morning.

You're such a tool, jc.

[sister morphine]

The morally upstanding member with name redacted on the chats was also a signatory. Just for the interest of full disclosure.
Care to tell me who via PM? It won't go any further.

[Polarbear]

Joey's message somehow went through an Indian translator and come out as:

Indians totally endorse hackers and cheaters? Really?!

The purpose of this thread IS solely to hate on SAS. Its resolution could be achieved by just sending it through to support...

[Joeycool]

Lulz!

I in no way defended SAS.

I simply asked if Zeemer had permission to post personal messages publicly. Which I'm pretty sure he doesn't.

In further news the Indians will no longer be merging with bill gates because Xbox one looks a bit rubbish.

We have also decided not to merge with "the weather" as it's been a bit rubbish lately.

[N41LZ]

Did they happen to hack into BD while they were in battle with FC or right after hacking into his account did they initiate a battle and pair up with FC by chance??

Also I'm guessing Vlad can't ever buy any gold again (assuming he gets to keep his account, *ahem* good luck) until he paysback what he owes GREE?

[Momo1234]

There is very little to be said. The evidence speaks volumes.

Some slight background info: Baddad was a top SAS player, putting down significantly more IP points than the "leaders" of SAS. He eventually decided that his contributions of gold, time and direct cash payments were not being met by equal dedication. Rather than allowing a player who had scored around 10m IP points for the team move on with his CC career, Vlad and a few other key players decided to attempt to hack baddad's account.

Here there is discussion of utilising baddad's account to score IP points for SAS when baddad was sleeping:
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/caughtoffense_zpsdbcfe227.jpg

Here they discuss squandering all of baddad's gold, and also admit to hacking into a fellow SAS player's account to score more IP in a previous war:

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_1070_zps5f5f4f7a.jpg

Here, they discuss giving all of BD's in-game cash into the FC syndicate bank (essentially throwing it away, as FC has all upgrades), including a screenshot proving they were using his account, and had indeed given away the cash:

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/dumpingcash_zpsc8df7b94.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/dupingcash2_zpsc98a098a.jpg

Here they say that they were utilising his UDID to hack into his account:

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/vladeggingon_zps497e42a7.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/deposit-withdrawal_zps75b98fe1.jpg

And here they discuss making BD leave FC minutes before the war started. They eventually decide to leave it this war, and go for next war (ie, the war coming up next weekend):

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/kickingBD_zps4f7ef02b.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/voting_zpsdca24ba6.jpg


On a similar, yet unrelated matter, Vlad has been utilising the "money pool" in SAS for his own personal gain. Essentially accepting donations of real life cash made by other members for the purpose of scoring IP points, then using it to pay off his gold debt and boost his own stats. Furthermore, despite the ongoing claim that SAS is leading an anti-hacking crusade (including the gold boycott) Vlad was in fact covering up hackers within SAS, even from his own members.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_1037_zpsfb724beb.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_1038_zps29caf554.jpg

Edit: Just to clarify, I don't believe that the majority of the rank and file of SAS were aware of this. It was planned and conducted from the officer's chat room. One of the officers stood up against what was happening - I have redacted their name from the exchanges so as to not have them associated with what happened.

I applaud this member wholeheartedly, for showing outstanding moral courage.


That money pool violates terms of service sound like the pyramid scheme that while syndicate should be banned permanently

[The Billionaire]

Well the evidence is shocking and I'm disgusted by those who have run the SAS syndicate in this way.

The SAS board are normally very quick to respond to allegations against their group which there has been quite a lot of in the past I might add. As the evidence is so strong I'll take their silence as confirmation that they have no intention of trying to refute this evidence. Let this be a warning to all other syndicates, play the game by the book and don't cheat. Someone will eventually catch you out. In this case it was one of their own and I don't know who that person was but I have a serious amount of respect for them.

I would also like to re-iterate Raggy's point that this is only a small handful of SAS members involved in this cheating. The group who are responsible for leading and should be setting an example not finding ways to cheat their way up the leader board and having such disrespect for their members. I have quite a few friends in SAS, they're good people and I'm glad they didn't have a hand in this cheating.

TO ALL SAS MEMBERS THAT WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CHEATING - I strongly recommend you leave the SAS syndicate and you've got 5 days to find yourself a new home. The longer you associate yourself with this group the more your own personal reputation will be damaged. Also why would you want to be led by these people? They have disrespected the SAS members. Get out now before too much damage is done as I'm sure Gree will have to take action over this.

TO GREE - You'd better do something about this! With most other syndicates playing by the book you need to make examples of the ones who don't to show this kind of thing won't be tolerated.

This whole episode disgusts me and those involved should be ashamed of themselves. Definitely the worst cheating that has happened in CC history.


Exactly! After being rejected by both SAS and FC it appears that Zeemer has too much time on his hands and too much hostility towards them.

Bald Zeemer has never been rejected by Fight Club. He made the decision to leave for one war and we were more than happy to have him back when he re-joined


I guess this information being made public has upset the merger plans of/ between SAS and the Indians

Lol, that explains Joey Cools post then. The Indians should be pleased this has come to light because they will get second place back now.

[tam...]

Translation: how dare anyone have the gall to inform the CC community of certain behavior of a few players. That individual players have the opportunity to express their opinion in regards to the disclosed information.
I for one believe players have a right to know.

[Blueshoot]

Where there's hacking. Polar Bear is sure to be not too far away

[The Billionaire]

Where there's hacking. Polar Bear is sure to be not too far away

lmfao.....

[(CK) EL]

Lulz!

I in no way defended SAS.

I simply asked if Zeemer had permission to post personal messages publicly. Which I'm pretty sure he doesn't.

In further news the Indians will no longer be merging with bill gates because Xbox one looks a bit rubbish.

We have also decided not to merge with "the weather" as it's been a bit rubbish lately.

you mean that Zeemer should ask from Vlad and the rest officers of SAS permission before he reveals the clues?

you have to know that the threads that were created by "SAS reqruitment" that Zeemer and I were asking for some
explanations about that stuff, were deleted within minutes.

The other about Indian's merging you are posting are very funny, you sence of humor is highly developed

[N41LZ]

Maybe this explains why before this even came to light, most of the prominent SAS members have removed their SAS sigs?
I have to say, i will miss the stylish design =]

[kingofwale]

Maybe police should ask murderers for their permission to inform the public

[Joeycool]

Hacking of any kind is wrong.

Posting private chats without the individuals consent is wrong. (By wrong I mean against forum rules)

The end.

[Dipstik]

Whistle blowing is generally considered a good thing, Joey.

[Steve0]

This thread will be locked or deleted and swiped under the rug. Thanks BZ for bringing this to light.

[Steve0]

Maybe this explains why before this even came to light, most of the prominent SAS members have removed their SAS sigs?
I have to say, i will miss the stylish design =]
I noticed it too

[sister morphine]

Ok, now let's put it out there. The "honourable whistle blower" who is also a signatory to this letter has left SAS along with the other two signatories who are alleged perpetrators of these acts. All three are in the same new syndicate, which would appear a curious thing if the other two are guilty as charged by zeemer (one of those two is incidentally the author of the letter). Waters a bit muddier now, perhaps?

The truth is that SAS are really the only serious challengers to Fight Club, so what could be better for them than to have Gree disband the syndicate? As Joeycool has said, putting people's names out there in the chat screens is as bad as leaving them on profile screens of alleged hackers and others, so I hope the mods will take serious action on the OP. Redacting those names would have been easy, but leaving the icons in place would allow those of us who've been in SAS chat to identify them.

[N41LZ]

Posting private chats without the individuals consent is wrong. (By wrong I mean against forum rules)


I'm sure 98% of the forum community are glad this has came to light.
Bill Clinton sure wasn't happy when he got busted...

[iteachem]

I will tell you this the Indians are all disgusted by this. It is truly a shame that people take this game so seriously that they are willing to commit actions like this with another players account.

To all SAS members not involved, I agree with the billionaire that you need to start looking. I might recommend Sunnyvale. They are a good group of people, and I am sure some of you could find a home there

[Dipstik]

I was thinking more of watergate, nailz... No one wanted Woodward or "deep throat" prosecuted for bringing it to light.

Teach: Joey doesn't seem disgusted. That could just be his poor communication skills shining through though.

[Joeycool]

Of course it is.

Take it to gree.

Looks like it has already been taken to them. Because there is a sticky giving details of "what not to do"

This is not a whistle blowing thread. This is a "discredit individuals thread"

It's not necessary. And publicly posting people's private conversations is completely out of order. No matter what they contain.

Sure... Let gree know because the content of the messages is pretty shocking. But the only reason to post it on here is to throw mud on the individuals concerned.

There is no public warning. No advice on what not to do.

[N41LZ]

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/12/17/1225972/510765-julian-assange.jpg

[Senator McCarthy]

@Joey Cool i totally disagree. Vlad is trying to recruit people to his syndicate and if people are not made aware of this... unsuspecting people will jump at the chance of joining the "number 2" syndicate later to find out that they joined a bunch of cheats.

With only 5 days to battle... this news has to be spread throughout the CC community as fast as possible. Bravo to the poster of this thread.

Gree should turn this matter over to the proper authorities or else they are co-conspirators of covering up a crime. Anyone report this to the FBI or Interpol? This is the only way I think Gree will "act" in a right way. Strip weapons and ban people involved.

[Aeternitas]

if alligation is true. I believe SAS should be disbanded. This kind of acts are downright disgusting if proven.


I have to say that it's not looking good for them so far.

Disbanded??? Isn't this a criminal offense punishable by law in US and UK?

[Polarbear]

I'm sorry,

This is the same baldzeemer that had evidence on me using Chinese gold, oh no! it was a straightout gold hack?

Who also said my top10 syndicate wasn't going to receive prizes because of it?

Who is now posting evidence from secondary/tertiary sources, and passing it off as the truth?

Yup..... Could this not have waited till after Gree addresses it?

[Tomatoneverdie]

I don't mind seeing the private convo of a criminal act. If this is only reported to Gree, God knows if it will be swept under the rug if any of the accused promises to spend a large sum of money to "buy" his innocence....

[PawnXIIX]

Disbanded??? Isn't this a criminal offense punishable by law in US and UK?

Yes, it actually is a criminal offense. This is punishable from anywhere between a fine to as much as 20 years in prison in the most serious offenses.

GREE - we honestly wish you'd just do something. If a moderator posted here before I'm not too sure because I just jumped in to post a reply. Can we have some moderator input as to how this is going to be handled or if it even made some sort of notice in the office?

You guys need to:

1. Stop sending un-encrypted UID in the tickets
2. Devise a way to secure the app in such a way so that the account cannot be accessed from more than 1 device at a time
3. Stop with this smoke a mirrors
4. DO SOMETHING.


On a side note - 125k gold, wow.

[TRAZ]

This is troublesome. Thoroughly disappointed.

[panty sniffer]

Sadly, and like every other game I've played and loved, the cheaters always win in the end. That's always been what's ultimately ruined a game for me. CC days are numbered unless Gree takes a hardcore stance against such activity.

[MattThomas08]

I was the dissenter whose name is redacted in the officer chat. I have left SAS and have been off away from the game on a Memorial Day getaway with some old friends so I am just now reading this post. First let me say most of these comments were made in jest (like, "Hey you know what would be funny...?). The only thing that truly happened was an in-game cash deposit was made into the FC bank that's shown in the screen shots. No gold was used at all and he wasn't removed from FC.

With that said, I was evident in the fact that I thought the whole situation was terrible and worse than game hacking and I think the whole thing was awful to have taken place at all. I appreciate BZ blacking out my name, but since I've already been associated with it, it's a little irrelevant now. There are a lot of things about SAS that led me to leave and had just planned to leave the whole syndicate game. I did break off and start leadership in a new group, though I had not originally planned it.

[Joeycool]

I don't mind seeing the private convo of a criminal act. If this is only reported to Gree, God knows if it will be swept under the rug if any of the accused promises to spend a large sum of money to "buy" his innocence....

Hacking is criminal act for sure.

It wouldnt get swept under the carpet. I doubt the relevant authorities would be interested in how much gold individuals spend with Gree.

This thread is purely to discredit the individuals.

[N41LZ]

I did break off and start leadership in a new group, though I had not originally planned it.

Are you now in the same syn as Killshot?

[montecore]

one thing worth pointing out is that killshot and ian wrote/signed that letter and left sas right after the last war. the letter contains a lot of inaccuracies presented as fact, because they wanted to damage vlad and get as many sas members to follow them as possible.

[Dr BoneCrusher]

I think the acts by the players in the OP, go way beyond cheating or hacking. This is downright criminal! Gree has an obligation to report this to the proper authorities. I also think, Apple would love to be informed of this incident and how Gree resolves it.

[PawnXIIX]

I like how the 3rd bullet point of the letter has the name in the last line that isn't blacked out. Just replace all the black text in the 3rd bullet point paragraph with "Soloman" D:

[Senator McCarthy]

@Montecore your tepid defense only raises more questions than answers now. LOL

[N41LZ]

I hope the right punishments are handed out, it is criminal and saying "you are taking this game too seriously" is now a severe understatement

Whatever the case, the damage is done. I cannot imagine anyone seeing SAS in Top 2 or 3 and not being disgusted again... shame you guys had so much respect in the past.
Ain't that right Lance Armstrong?

This also reminds me about that whole controversy with Hellcalls and the hacker DL

[the_brein]

Cheating is bad. If we leave it to Gree to police, they'll protect their interests first. If a cheater is also a heavy gold buyer, then Gree would have incentive to not ban. Doesn't mean they won't. Just that they have incentive not to.

With that in mind, many cheaters have been allowed to continue playing the game. For whatever reason. I don't think anyone can dispute that. Outing players is sometimes the only pressure we can assert. There's a lot of context missing from this story. What is certain, is that something bad happened here. Luckily it's a holiday weekend and us mortals get to see this unfold.

Anyone need bricks?

[HenryVIII]

And dipstik now moves a couple spaces closer being #1 in crime city...... Assuming gree does their job and removes these despicable players.

Kudos to the OP.
Kudos to MT

[PawnXIIX]

Cheating is bad. If we leave it to Gree to police, they'll protect their interests first. If a cheater is also a heavy gold buyer, then Gree would have incentive to not ban. Doesn't mean they won't. Just that they have incentive not to.

With that in mind, many cheaters have been allowed to continue playing the game. For whatever reason. I don't think anyone can dispute that. Outing players is sometimes the only pressure we can assert. There's a lot of context missing from this story. What is certain, is that something bad happened here. Luckily it's a holiday weekend and us mortals get to see this unfold.

I'm sorry but what did that have to do with this topic? The players account was hacked to get an unfair advantage without his consent or knowledge. After he changed syndicates the hacking became more malicious rather than benign. Then the other 20% of the post just has to do with showing evidence that vlad used glitched gold and that nobody apparently wants to listen to the leadership. That, and nobody wants to investigate cheats. They are either too scared to find out the truth or nobody is interested in finding out.

That's basically what I got out of that letter.


If you ask me - this goes much further than simply banning the players. This could very well be prosecuted. That money would be much greater than any gold. This is a desperate company after all.

LINK (http://www.insidemobileapps.com/2013/05/14/grees-q3-2013-sales-declined-quarter-over-quarter-to-370-9m-profits-down-24-percent-to-105-7m/)

[Momo1234]

Hacking is criminal act for sure.

It wouldnt get swept under the carpet. I doubt the relevant authorities would be interested in how much gold individuals spend with Gree.

This thread is purely to discredit the individuals.

What about that money pool thing the leader of a number 2 syndicate tricked and stole 1000$ from his team that's a criminal offense to use this game as a cover up for white collar crimes.. Wow the Feds surely have their hands full now maybe I should start a real life criminal enterprise and use this game as a way to communicate trafficking from Cali all the w to the east coast? Who with me leader of sas you want a piece of the pie?

[the_brein]

I'm sorry but what did that have to do with this topic? The players account was hacked to get an unfair advantage without his consent or knowledge. After he changed syndicates the hacking became more malicious rather than benign. Then the other 20% of the post just has to do with showing evidence that vlad used glitched gold and that nobody apparently wants to listen to the leadership. That, and nobody wants to investigate cheats. They are either too scared to find out the truth or nobody is interested in finding out.

That's basically what I got out of that letter.


If you ask me - this goes much further than simply banning the players. This could very well be prosecuted. That money would be much greater than any gold. This is a desperate company after all.

LINK (http://www.insidemobileapps.com/2013/05/14/grees-q3-2013-sales-declined-quarter-over-quarter-to-370-9m-profits-down-24-percent-to-105-7m/)well, the original post had a letter listing various cheaters. Sure, a guy's account got accessed. But it wasn't just that which was addressed.

Also, do we know he didn't give them that uuiiddi? Not sure where I'm going with that, other than there's a lot of info that's missing.

[Dani3ll31026]

Something needs to be done about this if the allegations are true... I can't imagine zeemer or anyone else for that matter making all this up including fake screen shots... That would take WAY too much time and thought... Gree needs to step up on getting rid of all these issues including people who are not playing fair.. This is supposed to be a game not a drama filled soap...

[bald zeemer]

UDID was posted unwittingly when he posted a ticket from gree, when he was a member of SAS.

They hung on to the UDID, and utilised it after BD left SAS to perform the actions shown.

Obviously doing something about UDIDs being unencrypted in tickets should be one of the priorities for Gree.

[TD-beef]

Just my 2 cents:

1) I'm pretty sure that when there is criminal activity, the ones that break the law lose their right to confidentiality, so I think posting those conversations are fine as long as the innocent parties are protected :)

2) If Gree does not at least ban the hackers involved, there is something seriously wrong and a dark cloud will hang over the game and I think many players will quit.

3) Going beyond theft of real money which is already criminal, the FCC may need to be pulled in due to the communication devices are involved. Not to mention credit card fraud.
It's also that the federal level due to the cash pooling scheme, and the feds love to link things to mail fraud.

Maybe I just watch too much American Greed on cnbc, lol.

[montecore]

@Montecore your tepid defense only raises more questions than answers now. LOL

If you think I can or will defend what happened to bad dad, you are sorely mistaken. It's the worst thing I've ever seen in the game. I have never been more disillusioned with any game as I have been since all of this happened. But this is being presented as if Ian and Killshot were still in SAS and we're one big happy hacking family. That isn't the case.

After we came in second place, killshot, MT, Ian, and several other people who signed that PDF decided to abscond SAS2 (the SAS with top 10 players as opposed to top 3 players) and wanted to do as much damage to SAS and Vlad as possible. The PDF was their attempt. At that moment I didn't know anything about what happened to bad dad. I was upset with killshot and MT and still am to a degree, because I felt they were being disloyal, taking a syndicate that wasn't there's to take, and they also took a number of good in-game friends who I miss. The letter was written with a very obvious agenda where opinions and conjecture are presented as fact with just enough facts to make it all seem like an accurate tell all. There are lots of lies in there. They said they "hoped it would stay within the syndicate" but there were comments on forum walls about it within an hour or two from other syndicates.

Anyway, I picked up my phone as the middle of all this was going on and sort of got caught up. I asked killshot what he was doing and at some point he started posting screenshots about the hacking. I said that everyone involved were all a bunch of jerks (not the word I used) and that there is no way I would follow them with Ian to their stolen syndicate. With Ian and the others gone my focus became on helping SAS get stronger for the next war, and my goal was to add the most loyal, ethical people we could find. I particularly hated the parts of the letter discussing hackers who were in SAS at one point/almost in SAS at one point because killshot knows how OCD we are about player inventories, and the incredibly strong players we rejected last round who had remotely questionable inventories.

I do know that MT opposed it in the screenshots I've seen. If he had left by himself with my SAS friends and left Ian, KS, Vlad and anyone in the screenshots I would have followed him. That's the real irony of the break off of SAS2; it's presented as some sort of moral "enough is enough" occurrence but the very people who left did the hacking, stole a syndicate, and spent months defending/denying many of the allegations in the letter, some of which they still know to be false or exaggerated to a point of falsehood. I was supposed to own SAS2 next war, and was looking quite forward to it as I'd missed a lot of the people who went from SAS to SAS2. On their way out the door, KS and MT implied I wouldn't have made a good owner and that such a decision shouldn't be left up to just Vlad - this coming from the very people who were stealing the syndicate in question. When I asked about getting SAS2 back killshot said he "didn't own a syndicate" (it was/is owned by MT) and MT said that they didn't want a use another syndicate because the bonuses weren't as good. Then he said the people leaving deserved good syndicate bonuses after all their hard work. Then he said he didn't really own it, because ownership would be by committee and an election process. I equated it all to an employee who felt he had worked so hard at his job that he deserved to steal a laptop or two on their way out the door.

The whole thing sucks. I don't know the facts as these screenshots are all out of context. I've heard conflicting explanations from various parties and I know they all look revolting. I do know that I have told Vlad that if anything remotely similar to this ever comes out of SAS I will quit the game, syndicate, and forum forever. It will never be condoned or tolerated. And pointing out that Ian is no longer a SAS member is indeed a rather limited condolence in the face of something so egregious.

[PawnXIIX]

well, the original post had a letter listing various cheaters. Sure, a guy's account got accessed. But it wasn't just that which was addressed.

Also, do we know he didn't give them that uuiiddi? Not sure where I'm going with that, other than there's a lot of info that's missing.

Well apparently you can get the UID through the email support sends you. I have an idea where that is going. Basically don't post up your support emails anywhere and you'll be alright.

[madawgg]

If you think I can or will defend what happened to bad dad, you are sorely mistaken. It's the worst thing I've ever seen in the game. I have never been more disillusioned with any game as I have been since all of this happened. But this is being presented as if Ian and Killshot were still in SAS and we're one big happy hacking family. That isn't the case.

After we came in second place, killshot, MT, Ian, and several other people who signed that PDF decided to abscond SAS2 (the SAS with top 10 players as opposed to top 3 players) and wanted to do as much damage to SAS and Vlad as possible. The PDF was their attempt. At that moment I didn't know anything about what happened to bad dad. I was upset with killshot and MT and still am to a degree, because I felt they were being disloyal, taking a syndicate that wasn't there's to take, and they also took a number of good in-game friends who I miss. The letter was written with a very obvious agenda where opinions and conjecture are presented as fact with just enough facts to make it all seem like an accurate tell all. There are lots of lies in there. They said they "hoped it would stay within the syndicate" but there were comments on forum walls about it within an hour or two from other syndicates.

Anyway, I picked up my phone as the middle of all this was going on and sort of got caught up. I asked killshot what he was doing and at some point he started posting screenshots about the hacking. I said that everyone involved were all a bunch of jerks (not the word I used) and that there is no way I would follow them with Ian to their stolen syndicate. With Ian and the others gone my focus became on helping SAS get stronger for the next war, and my goal was to add the most loyal, ethical people we could find. I particularly hated the parts of the letter discussing hackers who were in SAS at one point/almost in SAS at one point because killshot knows how OCD we are about player inventories, and the incredibly strong players we rejected last round who had remotely questionable inventories.

I do know that MT opposed it in the screenshots I've seen. If he had left by himself with my SAS friends and left Ian, KS, Vlad and anyone in the screenshots I would have followed him. That's the real irony of the break off of SAS2; it's presented as some sort of moral "enough is enough" occurrence but the very people who left did the hacking, stole a syndicate, and spent months defending/denying many of the allegations in the letter, some of which they still know to be false or exaggerated to a point of falsehood. I was supposed to own SAS2 next war, and was looking quite forward to it as I'd missed a lot of the people who went from SAS to SAS2. On their way out the door, KS and MT implied I wouldn't have made a good owner and that such a decision shouldn't be left up to just Vlad - this coming from the very people who were stealing the syndicate in question. When I asked about getting SAS2 back killshot said he "didn't own a syndicate" (it was/is owned by MT) and MT said that they didn't want a use another syndicate because the bonuses weren't as good. Then he said the people leaving deserved good syndicate bonuses after all their hard work. Then he said he didn't really own it, because ownership would be by committee and an election process. I equated it all to an employee who felt he had worked so hard at his job that he deserved to steal a laptop or two on their way out the door.

The whole thing sucks. I don't know the facts as these screenshots are all out of context. I've heard conflicting explanations from various parties and I know they all look revolting. I do know that I have told Vlad that if anything remotely similar to this ever comes out of SAS I will quit the game, syndicate, and forum forever. It will never be condoned or tolerated. And pointing out that Ian is no longer a SAS member is indeed a rather limited condolence in the face of something so egregious.
You're either very upset or very angry because your post is quite incoherent at best...
The whole long post can be summarized in two lines: I condone the action, and I feel the OP is misinformed somehow. Unfortunately at this moment, you can only pick one side of the two. If you condone the action, don't even bother to post paragraph 2,3, and 4, NO ONE CARES. That's what you need to do because at this moment, any member from SAS will be judged negatively regardless of your involvement/innocence.
Want to validate your innocence on internet? Welcome to the real world babe.

[montecore]

You're either very upset or very angry because your post is quite incoherent at best...
The whole long post can be summarized in two lines: I condone the action, and I feel the OP is misinformed somehow. Unfortunately at this moment, you can only pick one side of the two. If you condone the action, don't even bother to post paragraph 2,3, and 4, NO ONE CARES. That's what you need to do because at this moment, any member from SAS will be judged negatively regardless of your involvement/innocence.
Want to validate your innocence on internet? Welcome to the real world babe.

Your reading comprehension sucks and I haven't had any coffee yet. People have a right to be upset but they also have a right to know the facts. Go buy a deviant coat.

[tam...]

Thank you for responding . I for one appreciate the reply.
That eliminates the criticism about the material being posted. " without permission"
That eliminates any concern that some how the material was manufactured just to discredit SAS

[Happyperson1]

1. Kudos to Bald Zeemer. The message took time to prepare I'm sure and courage to post.
2. Shame on Joey and others for focusing on the wrong issue. Felons forfeit rights when they perpetrate crimes like this. This is a game forum and vital information like this should be distributed immediately.
3. Baddad has privately said this is all 100% accurate. He should post that here so it would remove any doubt from those stupid enough or blind enough to refute the evidence.
4. Yes, some SAS members, maybe most SAS members were not aware. But when Sister Morphine and others focus on the "name-smearing of the post" rather than the crimes themselves it undercuts any sympathy for SAS members.
5. The sanctimonious, hypocritical rants by SAS leadership about the moral failings of other syndicates like FC now seem even more outrageously stupid and misguided. SAS, the "people's champion", is exposed as morally bereft.
6. Vlad and any others proven to be involved should be banned and their assets should be given to Baddad.
7. Teach for once gets an issue right. That in no way makes his actions against TBC proper or his continued support of the Indians hazing activities perpetrated against individual players ethically correct. A once respected player, he now is just another Indian thug.

[madawgg]

Your reading comprehension sucks and I haven't had any coffee yet. People have a right to be upset but they also have a right to know the facts. Go buy a deviant coat.
lolz maybe you do need to take some coffee.
well how about a paragraph-paragraph summary for ya:
1. I condemn the actions (good good very good)
2. However, MT is not morally upright either and the letter is full of lies. (yeah I'm presenting the other side of the story!)
3. Killshot gave me the screenshots (big suprise!) and I'm just minding my own business
4. SAS2 is led by the exact same hackers and they want to be on the side of morally good, how hilarious.
5. I will quit the whole game if anything is true.

no one cares about the internal struggle between sas and sas2 coz from an outsider's perspective, it's still within sas! Whether it's the original leadership's fault, or SAS2 new leadership's fault, it's a still an SAS internal fair, and it does not help with the accusation. And your long explanations only add to the impression that you are somehow defending the original SAS leadership.
And however you want to interpret the screenshot, original leadership condone the action, and it has already happened. So get your head straight my friend, at this point you can only be on either of the extreme ends. Now it's the time to pick sides but not stay in the middle because that would only make you look guilty as well.

[Gingeasian]

At least we all know now that FC does not work for gree because this would be hurting their business

...on a side note does this mean that the 48 gold thong is over lol

[Facasca]

Very shameful!

[madawgg]

lolz maybe you do need to take some coffee.
well how about a paragraph-paragraph summary for ya:
1. I condemn the actions (good good very good)
2. However, MT is not morally upright either and the letter is full of lies. (yeah I'm presenting the other side of the story!)
3. Killshot gave me the screenshots (big suprise!) and I'm just minding my own business
4. SAS2 is led by the exact same hackers and they want to be on the side of morally good, how hilarious.
5. I will quit the whole game if anything is true.

no one cares about the internal struggle between sas and sas2 coz from an outsider's perspective, it's still within sas! Whether it's the original leadership's fault, or SAS2 new leadership's fault, it's a still an SAS internal fair, and it does not help with the accusation. And your long explanations only add to the impression that you are somehow defending the original SAS leadership.
And however you want to interpret the screenshot, original leadership condone the action, and it has already happened. So get your head straight my friend, at this point you can only be on either of the extreme ends. Now it's the time to pick sides but not stay in the middle because that would only make you look guilty as well.
If I haven't made it clear...since you are an SAS member, anything away from "I seriously condemn the actions" will be generally viewed as an implication for supporting the original leadership...
Since the hacking action did happen (if it hasn't then it's a different story, more ppl will be interested in the other side of the story), this whole event can be viewed as SAS vs. BD. And what happens inside of SAS is not of interest here. The only thing people are interested in is either BD comes out to confirm the screenshots, or an SAS member that comes out to put an end to the rumors/gossips.
Read all the posts about "SAS comes out and responds"/"BD told me that it's 100% true"...you will know I'm not just saying it to upset you...

[HenryVIII]

does this mean that the 48 gold thong is over lol

Hope not, a golden thong sounds very interesting!

In fact, maybe you should ask Vlad what he, in fact, did use that gold for...?...

[Froddo]

Wow shocking...still waiting for SAS side of the story.
Real shame if this is proven... Gree seriously need to do something abt this!

[kingofwale]

Wow shocking...still waiting for SAS side of the story.
Real shame if this is proven... Gree seriously need to do something abt this!

More than 1 sas current members have already confirmed the story.

[OG ALEX]

LOL I am with SAS and have been since it's birth and i am just sitting here laughing at all you retards who are making a big deal about this. it is a iphone game grow the **** up, no gold or real life money was stolen from baddad, only in game money was. So shut the **** up about it and go cry to somebody who cares because obviously gree does not, otherwise they would have done something about when it happened 3weeks ago.

[kingofwale]

LOL I am with SAS and have been since it's birth and i am just sitting here laughing at all you retards who are making a big deal about this. it is a iphone game grow the **** up, no gold or real life money was stolen from baddad, only in game money was. So shut the **** up about it and go cry to somebody who cares because obviously gree does not, otherwise they would have done something about when it happened 3weeks ago.

Another class response from SAS members. Confirming hacking and then claiming its not wrong in any way.

So delusional.

[montecore]

Its funny how you guys point out what syn has a hacker when your syndicate is full of them.... The pathetic thing is that they hacked his account because he no longer wanted to be apart of sas but spoke good about you guys after he left. I told baddad you guys couldn't be trusted I hope all of you get what you deserve.

Your friend always
(KING) Mr932

If our syndicate is full of hackers, would you mind giving me two or more names?

[madawgg]

LOL I am with SAS and have been since it's birth and i am just sitting here laughing at all you retards who are making a big deal about this. it is a iphone game grow the **** up, no gold or real life money was stolen from baddad, only in game money was. So shut the **** up about it and go cry to somebody who cares because obviously gree does not, otherwise they would have done something about when it happened 3weeks ago.
Maybe you should say this to sas leadership.
It's just an iPhone game so why even hacking other player's account?!

[montecore]

Another class response from SAS members. Confirming hacking and then claiming its not wrong in any way.

So delusional.

SAS does not suport Alex's rather off the cuff and offensive opinion on this matter at all.

[montecore]

Maybe you should say this to sas leadership.
It's just an iPhone game so why even hacking other player's account?!

The hacker in question is long gone from SAS. If it ever happens again it won't be from a SAS member.

[Blueshoot]

SAS does not suport Alex's rather off the cuff and offensive opinion on this matter at all.

I expect he will be removed from SAS? Seeing as you are such an honourable bunch

[madawgg]

The hacker in question is long gone from SAS. If it ever happens again it won't be from a SAS member.
Monte I believe you are innocent because you're always straightforward but there's no point defending your leader anymore...you honestly think only the perpetrator is the one and only to be blamed?

[Froddo]

LOL I am with SAS and have been since it's birth and i am just sitting here laughing at all you retards who are making a big deal about this. it is a iphone game grow the **** up, no gold or real life money was stolen from baddad, only in game money was. So shut the **** up about it and go cry to somebody who cares because obviously gree does not, otherwise they would have done something about when it happened 3weeks ago.

Wow so it is ok to hack cos its an iphone game?

[kingofwale]

SAS does not suport Alex's rather off the cuff and offensive opinion on this matter at all.

Then who here speaks on behave of SAS?

Because frankly we are getting 2 versions. Either people who knew this and telling us they've done what they could to fix this

And those who feel absolutely no remorse and continue to sponsor this kind of disgusting behaviour.

I have called SAS "people's champion" just a week ago, don't make me regret this.

[PawnXIIX]

LOL I am with SAS and have been since it's birth and i am just sitting here laughing at all you retards who are making a big deal about this. it is a iphone game grow the **** up, no gold or real life money was stolen from baddad, only in game money was. So shut the **** up about it and go cry to somebody who cares because obviously gree does not, otherwise they would have done something about when it happened 3weeks ago.

I am personally more concerned about the legality aspects of this... Also the future vulnerabilities to abuse this concern me too. The in game nonsense is shocking due to the in-action thus far from GREE, but just brushing off the breach of security for everyone is just alarming.

[Kleptomaniac]

lolz maybe you do need to take some coffee.
well how about a paragraph-paragraph summary for ya:
1. I condemn the actions (good good very good)
2. However, MT is not morally upright either and the letter is full of lies. (yeah I'm presenting the other side of the story!)
3. Killshot gave me the screenshots (big suprise!) and I'm just minding my own business
4. SAS2 is led by the exact same hackers and they want to be on the side of morally good, how hilarious.
5. I will quit the whole game if anything is true.

no one cares about the internal struggle between sas and sas2 coz from an outsider's perspective, it's still within sas! Whether it's the original leadership's fault, or SAS2 new leadership's fault, it's a still an SAS internal fair, and it does not help with the accusation. And your long explanations only add to the impression that you are somehow defending the original SAS leadership.
And however you want to interpret the screenshot, original leadership condone the action, and it has already happened. So get your head straight my friend, at this point you can only be on either of the extreme ends. Now it's the time to pick sides but not stay in the middle because that would only make you look guilty as well.
Thanks for summing it up so I didn't have to read a essay

[Lurker]

"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of SAS?"

Lol, my new tag line?

[Angel6ix6ix6]

All the top ten teams cheat, hack,scheme,swindle and lie ,everyone knows this, including Gree .

[the_brein]

In all fairness to SAS, calling them worst cheaters may be a little harsh. I recall a certain Agent Smith everyone was complaining about.

[Baddad]

During the Chinese Pagoda event I noticed all but 5 mil. Disappear from my bank. I thought it to be a Gree glitch and was going to report it. Later that day I received a communication from someone who I consider a person of ethics and character asking if my account had been hacked. I've only been playing CC since Jan. and would have never thought this possible let alone an option for one player to do to another for any reason. This person provided me many screen shots some depicted on this site as they were provided to me. I then sent a ticket to Gree for investigation and am also consulting with Apple and my local law enforcement as this type of malicious activity goes beyond the what is lawful on a public forum where private information and worse funds were compromised unlawfully.

I play the game for fun and have enjoyed making many friends along the way. My only hope is that others will not be treated as I have been by those whom I befriended in the game. I would like to thank #1 the person who first brought this to light and secondly all those who have spread the message of this horrible wrong so that others can be warned and those who are responsible for this will be punished, lastly for those who are considering to cheat may have second thoughts.

I will continue to play this game with honor and integrity and respect those in game friend or foe with respect.

[the_brein]

Wow. Sorry to have been making light of this matter. First post? Welcome to the forums.

[Lurker]

BTW, excellent work bald zeemer. Interesting to see what comes out of this exposé. This is very Sirius.

[Blueshoot]

I hope the people culpable are brought to justice, spend many a year in prison, systematically ****d by well hung, HIV infected people. Failing that, I'd like them banned

[madawgg]

I hope the people culpable are brought to justice, spend many a year in prison, systematically ****d by well hung, HIV infected people. Failing that, I'd like them banned
Wow blue...

[Mistress Nikita]

Maybe this explains why before this even came to light, most of the prominent SAS members have removed their SAS sigs?
I have to say, i will miss the stylish design =]

SAS had a major breakup almost a week ago (which has not been news in these forums, even though so many have read the break-up letter). The ones who dropped their signature "Silent Assassins" are most likely the ones who left. I don't think any sig-tags were dropped because of this thread.

I am sure the rank and file of the old SAS were not aware of the actions of Ian.

[TZora]

any team can have bad eggs .. too hard to avoid them sometimes. i do not support putting the whole crew at fault. SAS has some of my favorites too and it feels bad when anyone blames the whole syndicate for cheating/hacking.

however, if gold was hacked from a non-sas member's account and was used in battles, that's no good sir. that affects more than just baddad.

[kingofwale]

During the Chinese Pagoda event I noticed all but 5 mil. Disappear from my bank. I thought it to be a Gree glitch and was going to report it. Later that day I received a communication from someone who I consider a person of ethics and character asking if my account had been hacked. I've only been playing CC since Jan. and would have never thought this possible let alone an option for one player to do to another for any reason. This person provided me many screen shots some depicted on this site as they were provided to me. I then sent a ticket to Gree for investigation and am also consulting with Apple and my local law enforcement as this type of malicious activity goes beyond the what is lawful on a public forum where private information and worse funds were compromised unlawfully.

I play the game for fun and have enjoyed making many friends along the way. My only hope is that others will not be treated as I have been by those whom I befriended in the game. I would like to thank #1 the person who first brought this to light and secondly all those who have spread the message of this horrible wrong so that others can be warned and those who are responsible for this will be punished, lastly for those who are considering to cheat may have second thoughts.

I will continue to play this game with honor and integrity and respect those in game friend or foe with respect.

what a horrible story, I want to say that I'm very sorry to hear this.

what has come of it?? how long did Gree do to response (if at all) and what did your local authority do??

What my question for you is.. how many gold did they steal?? I can see that they stole 138 million, that's just terrible.

[Lurker]

Maddawg's reading comprehension may well suck (I have no dea but will take your word for it). However, your post there is still incoherent.


Your reading comprehension sucks and I haven't had any coffee yet. People have a right to be upset but they also have a right to know the facts. Go buy a deviant coat.

[Lurker]

Sorry to hear this. And glad to hear you've reported this to your local law enforcement. Do keep in mind that electronic crime is still a new animal for many LE organizations so please research your state and federal laws. Cheaters worsen the game experience for all of us who play within the rules - cheaters and their enablers should have no place in this game - and hope Gree does something about this pronto.


During the Chinese Pagoda event I noticed all but 5 mil. Disappear from my bank. I thought it to be a Gree glitch and was going to report it. Later that day I received a communication from someone who I consider a person of ethics and character asking if my account had been hacked. I've only been playing CC since Jan. and would have never thought this possible let alone an option for one player to do to another for any reason. This person provided me many screen shots some depicted on this site as they were provided to me. I then sent a ticket to Gree for investigation and am also consulting with Apple and my local law enforcement as this type of malicious activity goes beyond the what is lawful on a public forum where private information and worse funds were compromised unlawfully.

I play the game for fun and have enjoyed making many friends along the way. My only hope is that others will not be treated as I have been by those whom I befriended in the game. I would like to thank #1 the person who first brought this to light and secondly all those who have spread the message of this horrible wrong so that others can be warned and those who are responsible for this will be punished, lastly for those who are considering to cheat may have second thoughts.

I will continue to play this game with honor and integrity and respect those in game friend or foe with respect.

[sez]

Wow, wow.....

Where ya at Killshot? You're such a fricken tool. Saying this is nothing but an attempt to discredit SAS is outrages. "Lawyer" was on here for 2-3 days with cheat alligations against FC and others. Now deal with the fallout.

[Ragmondino]

Monte, I present, as cheaters in SAS;
SuperTp, Solomon, EA Todd, Ian, T.Rex trying to get people to cheat. Without even thinking of it properly. I'm sure I could find more. None of these players were removed for cheating, one left because he was questioned, another was removed for bit doing what officers wanted. Todd and Rex are stil there. Rex is currently trying to fake leadership by force.
Sis m, I'm disappointed in you. I like you. Your a good player and a well respected forum member, but to claim this is purely to discredit SAS is just wrong. Players have a right to know what is happening. Time and again I have bought cheats to vlads attention. It seems he has his it from the team.
Also to monte, would you care to elaborate what part of the leaving letter was embellished? I believe it's true. Except that Ian and killshot was only interested in vlad basically stealing gold rather than the cheating aspect. From what I actually hear they chose not to poach many players from the sas1 team. If you let EA T.Rex take charge though the team will end up a joke, just like he is.

[Dr.]

Wow, what a tragedy!!! We expect this kind of unethical and frankly criminal behavior from another well known and despised group in this game but not from SAS. How low can you go SAS leadership? You call out cheaters/hackers yet you are a real life criminal. Ironic! If this is proven to be true I hope you rot in the eternal fire. Even thinking about this scheme puts you in the criminal category in my opinion.

BD: what a class act you are. My respect Sir. Might I recommend you change your name to GoodDad?

Baldie: thank you for putting this out there. If you are interested, there is decent money in investigative journalism!

Joey: a scum is a scum no matter the disguise. In the future, I suggest you let teach speak for the nation or even doggie for that matter.

Gree: we are watching/listening/waiting. This is a golden opportunity for you to act and release a statement. You can be a hero!!!

[Julian80]

LOL I am with SAS and have been since it's birth and i am just sitting here laughing at all you retards who are making a big deal about this. it is a iphone game grow the **** up, no gold or real life money was stolen from baddad, only in game money was. So shut the **** up about it and go cry to somebody who cares because obviously gree does not, otherwise they would have done something about when it happened 3weeks ago.

I play on an iPad. Does that make me more grown up than the others?

Also.. Pretty obvious you are one of the people being talked about here. Maybe all you did was steal a little "game money" from someone you had issue with. Seems like a vindictive and childish thing to do to someone over a silly little iPhone game.