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The Wise One
05-22-2013, 05:49 PM
Attention Knights!

The Dark Prince has just unleashed a new boss that's approaching your castle walls fast! Defeat Twin Jian to collect keys, items, gems, and a Limited Edition armor set! Twin Jian will be here for a limited time only, so act now!

Find and deal bonus damage using the nemesis armor set and compete in the Damage Leaderboards for a chance to win even more rewards.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/266a951fd7dc586e321cbb48665144fc_zpsaaa9f75c.png

Neomagic
05-22-2013, 05:51 PM
I love the new nemesis look.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 05:52 PM
This boss is going to be a real challenge.

Sir.
05-22-2013, 05:54 PM
Can't help thinking it would feel like hitting a pinata when fighting in this nemesis armor.

The Wise One
05-22-2013, 05:54 PM
This boss is going to be a real challenge.

Challenge accepted!? Wonder who'll be the first to 60!

Heapy
05-22-2013, 05:55 PM
How do we know if we got the 2x stronger Nemesis?

I got a Nemmy with 828/808 at max and just curious if its normal or 2x?

Zoriaan
05-22-2013, 06:15 PM
Based on Nemesis armors in the past caping in the 400s I would say that you have the 2x version.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 06:22 PM
Attention Knights!

The Dark Prince has just unleashed a new boss that's approaching your castle walls fast! Defeat Twin Jian to collect keys, items, gems, and a Limited Edition armor set! Twin Jian will be here for a limited time only, so act now!

Find and deal bonus damage using the nemesis armor set and compete in the Damage Leaderboards for a chance to win even more rewards.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/266a951fd7dc586e321cbb48665144fc_zpsaaa9f75c.png

For TODAY ONLY! Find a nemesis armor twice as strong as the normal version!

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/56385ad250af9c4bef91548f4d493e5a_zps1ae5170e.png

The nemesis should be doing 6x the dmg right? Cause a regular nemesis does 3x the dmg.

Heapy
05-22-2013, 06:26 PM
It's more likely 2x the stats and still 3x the damage.

I'm not finding it a huge advantage in comparison to previous Nemesis armors, Although I wouldn't want the normal damage Nemmy against this boss.

Needed 2 Nemesis to take down the lvl15 guy

Sir.
05-22-2013, 06:30 PM
It's more likely 2x the stats and still 3x the damage.

I'm not finding it a huge advantage in comparison to previous Nemesis armors, Although I wouldn't want the normal damage Nemmy against this boss.

Needed 2 Nemesis to take down the lvl15 guy

2x stats and 3x dmg is same as same stats and 6x damage. ;) Probably same effect as Nemesis on previous bosses due to this boss being stronger.

Edit: Oh no, excuse me, it's not. Forgot about the stats of your knight added too. That's actually a fair bit lower than 6x damage indeed.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 06:32 PM
It's more likely 2x the stats and still 3x the damage.

I'm not finding it a huge advantage in comparison to previous Nemesis armors, Although I wouldn't want the normal damage Nemmy against this boss.

Needed 2 Nemesis to take down the lvl15 guy

If so then that's very misleading. I haven't had the opportunity to upgrade mine. What's the max stats for the nemesis?

Heapy
05-22-2013, 06:33 PM
I've got mine at max and its 828/808

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 06:41 PM
Wow it went from a challenge to an impossible task. I hope pacers win so I can have something to be happy about today lol.

Heapy
05-22-2013, 06:43 PM
For those who want to add me this week I just cleared most of my friends list.

I have maxed Nemesis and am at lvl 92. Code is in my sig.

jamiedmc
05-22-2013, 06:44 PM
why do you guys think this boss is stronger than normal? I don't pay much attn to boss stats.. are this ones going up much faster than previous ones or something?

(I got to level 12 with my main knight in maxed AA+ before I had to add a second knight.)

Sir.
05-22-2013, 06:46 PM
For those who want to add me this week I just cleared most of my friends list.

I have maxed Nemesis and am at lvl 92. Code is in my sig.

I'll gladly make use of that. :) IGN is Sir Dot.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 06:50 PM
Previously I can clear the boss with just a single toon with one of the big 4 up to lvl 19.

And barring the health the level 15 boss has the stats of the previous level 60 boss( can't confirm this as I haven't reached 60 yet). On lvl 16 it has 800+ atk and 700+ def.

Genocide788
05-22-2013, 06:51 PM
For those who want to add me this week I just cleared most of my friends list.

I have maxed Nemesis and am at lvl 92. Code is in my sig.

Thank you Heapy, IGN GeNoCiDe. Hope you don't mind.

indonesian
05-22-2013, 06:55 PM
bro, i need some help here

so far ive killed the bos in lv 6 only with my main knight using crius lv 33

is there any advices to killed the bos only with my main knight? so far ive saving 29 ee

do i need to use 2 knight to lv 7?

well my crius stat is 650/714
and the bos about 492/464

is atlantean lv 16 with stat about 307/305 works on him?

Thatzme
05-22-2013, 06:58 PM
Is it just me or friends' list armor has not updated from the last siren boss? I can't use any friends sigh

hhm
05-22-2013, 07:00 PM
I am just going to settle with the normal one, lol. Too hard without spending ALOT of gems. Just going to wait for boss revive for 5 gems each, or maybe MAYBE if there is a Nemesis + 2, 3 days later. Don't want to support this kind of money wasting. It's gona cost a lot energy/gems judging by its stats at Level 15, 16, let alone getting to 43. im gona assume level 43 is gonna have what? 2k Att/ def? What a joke.


Previously I can clear the boss with just a single toon with one of the big 4 up to lvl 19.

And barring the health the level 15 boss has the stats of the previous level 60 boss( can't confirm this as I haven't reached 60 yet). On lvl 16 it has 800+ atk and 700+ def.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 07:00 PM
Is it just me or friends' list armor has not updated from the last siren boss? I can't use any friends sigh

I had that as well, I just restarted the app and it fixed the problem.

Thatzme
05-22-2013, 07:02 PM
I had that as well, I just restarted the app and it fixed the problem.

I restarted twice and it still shows them with siren nemesis. Sigh

Genocide788
05-22-2013, 07:03 PM
Is it just me or friends' list armor has not updated from the last siren boss? I can't use any friends sigh
I logged in 5 mins ago and it was retrieving "Friends Data". My list is refreshed..

jmano
05-22-2013, 07:10 PM
Looking for some strong allies! Level 83 full nemesis - XBB HXY DVV

Cheers & Good luck all :)

Alanna
05-22-2013, 07:14 PM
I am level 70 and have maxed nemesis could really use some higher level players to help or at least around same level, if anyone needs any help back.

XBB-DWP-YRB

BethMo
05-22-2013, 07:15 PM
why do you guys think this boss is stronger than normal? I don't pay much attn to boss stats.. are this ones going up much faster than previous ones or something?)

All of the last several weeks bosses had the same stats: they started at 156/132, and went up by +9/+10 per level.

The Twin Jian started at 312/264 and is going up by +18/+20 per level.

The hitpoints at each level don't appear to have changed (they're the same at least up to level 14), but I don't think killing the high level ones will be possible without burning lots of crystals, even with a stable full of friends in super-Nemesis armor.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 07:18 PM
All of the last several weeks bosses had the same stats: they started at 156/132, and went up by +9/+10 per level.

The Twin Jian started at 312/264 and is going up by +18/+20 per level.

The hitpoints at each level don't appear to have changed (they're the same at least up to level 14), but I don't think killing the high level ones will be possible without burning lots of crystals, even with a stable full of friends in super-Nemesis armor.

+1 for being so detail oriented!

Haha I'm the kinda guy just go "whack anything that comes at you" and going by Jamie's post he's the same as me haha!

indonesian
05-22-2013, 07:19 PM
bro, i need some help here

so far ive killed the bos in lv 6 only with my main knight using crius lv 33

is there any advices to killed the bos only with my main knight? so far ive saving 29 ee

do i need to use 2 knight to lv 7?

well my crius stat is 650/714
and the bos about 492/464

is atlantean lv 16 with stat about 307/305 works on him?

anyone? ________________________________

hhm
05-22-2013, 07:23 PM
Just use 2 to be safe.


anyone? ________________________________

I think so too. and for that amount of gem that would probably spend, u can probably get better equips in the future.

@BethMo

Lcharlie
05-22-2013, 07:23 PM
I've got mine at max and its 828/808
I don't think that is the super nemesis. Mine are at those stats and only level 7! I got lucky this week and got it on the second chest.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 07:24 PM
You'd want to level your AA+ cause that would deal 100% extra dmg cause it dominates both the bosses element. Next you should max te CA+ or any other wind based armor. Except for air/fire or air/spr.

Edit: This is to answer Indonesian.

Neomagic
05-22-2013, 07:31 PM
I restarted twice and it still shows them with siren nemesis. Sigh

I'm having this issue too. Restarted and everything! Pleaseeeeeeee fix this Wise One!

Adagio
05-22-2013, 07:33 PM
Does anyone know where I can find active people with nemesis Armor that don't discriminate against level? By the way my code is XBC HPP MNV

Thatzme
05-22-2013, 07:33 PM
I'm having this issue too. Restarted and everything! Pleaseeeeeeee fix this Wise One!

Restarted many times,, reinstalled the game, nothing works! WISE ONE HEAR OUR CRIES!

Heapy
05-22-2013, 07:35 PM
I don't think that is the super nemesis. Mine are at those stats and only level 7! I got lucky this week and got it on the second chest.

Lucky bugger :p

The stats I posted were without my toon, it's over 1k with my toon.


It appears that everything with this boss has practically doubled except for its HP.

Sir.
05-22-2013, 07:36 PM
Restarted many times,, reinstalled the game, nothing works! WISE ONE HEAR OUR CRIES!

I'm having the same problem.

GCSpyder
05-22-2013, 07:37 PM
I'm having the same problem.

yup, my friends are showing Siren Nemesis too.. Costed me some gems...

Badhairdayz
05-22-2013, 07:39 PM
Cool armor in my opinion!
Going for that + !

indonesian
05-22-2013, 07:50 PM
You'd want to level your AA+ cause that would deal 100% extra dmg cause it dominates both the bosses element. Next you should max te CA+ or any other wind based armor. Except for air/fire or air/spr.

Edit: This is to answer Indonesian.

thank you raistmar and hhm

maybe now im gonna save my ee till my AA+ and CA+ have enough stat to lv 15 boss

oh yeah, can i beat the lv 15 boss with AA+ and CA+ and a few other player knights?

BethMo
05-22-2013, 07:54 PM
I love the looks of the Nemesis armor... except for the helmet. Why oh why did they decide to make it a full face mask with no eyeslots? I'm still tempted to hang onto this one afterwards just for the coolness factor and the bird. ;)

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 07:57 PM
thank you raistmar and hhm

maybe now im gonna save my ee till my AA+ and CA+ have enough stat to lv 15 boss

oh yeah, can i beat the lv 15 boss with AA+ and CA+ and a few other player knights?

I beat the lvl 15 boss with 4 toons, CA+ AA+ on my toons and 2 friends on AA+. But I barely beat it and I'm lvl 100.

Max your AA+ before attempting the lvl 15 boss. And get friends with nemesis.

Alanna
05-22-2013, 07:57 PM
Kind of confused the nemeses armor that is out right now is just regular right. Though the screen shot says 2x normal damage then regular nemeses armor, it doesn't state there is a plus and regular. But others are talking like they have released a + version, is there one or is everyone confused like me?

Marcial1234
05-22-2013, 07:59 PM
Gree forgot that there's not many gem whales :p

Anyhow, not even gonna bother with this boss and nemesis. Sticking with AA+. Unless they also double the energy and friends cap any gems that i get will go to buy energy. 50 energy for the vale of 2 DPC draws. And no chance involded in there :p

Jrodigy
05-22-2013, 08:01 PM
Man Atlantean armour is the way to go for this one, don't even need nemesis lol...i'l hit 60 whenever my "no network connection" message goes away-_-

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 08:06 PM
If you say the same thing when you reach lvl 28 then you are my hero man.


Man Atlantean armour is the way to go for this one, don't even need nemesis lol...i'l hit 60 whenever my "no network connection" message goes away-_-

Splitfinity
05-22-2013, 08:08 PM
Its almost nearly impossible to get the + version for this armor, i mean look at the stats at lvl 15!
Only way you can get it is by spending a retarded amounts of gems, which is why Gree made it so difficult in the first place, so players would be forced to buy gems if they wanted the + version.

On another note, im looking for proper high level friends with good armor!

Code in siggy, drop a pm beforehand pls :)

Jrodigy
05-22-2013, 08:09 PM
If you say the same thing when you reach lvl 28 then you are my hero man. Dawg, i got like 40 epic energy just from getting to 15, IM TRYING TO USE THEM but it wont let me on the game as of right now #MAD

hhm
05-22-2013, 08:09 PM
For sure u can, u also have 7 days till the next boss. Just use all 3 knights twice (start boss with full energy). so ull be using 12 energy (if u wanna save yr friends for lvling).


thank you raistmar and hhm

maybe now im gonna save my ee till my AA+ and CA+ have enough stat to lv 15 boss

oh yeah, can i beat the lv 15 boss with AA+ and CA+ and a few other player knights?

hhm
05-22-2013, 08:16 PM
Your knights with AA+ must be on drugs Bro. LoL.

Man Atlantean armour is the way to go for this one, don't even need nemesis lol...i'l hit 60 whenever my "no network connection" message goes away-_-

deathexe
05-22-2013, 08:16 PM
Man this is pretty cool, a challenge for players I guess. I've managed to get a black kaleidoscopic armor and a nemesis in 10 chest. Used the keys I got from the previous boss rewards haha.

Lcharlie
05-22-2013, 08:26 PM
Lucky bugger :p

The stats I posted were without my toon, it's over 1k with my toon.


It appears that everything with this boss has practically doubled except for its HP.

Ok. My mistake. I may be lucky this week but the last 5 weeks it took more than 12 chests so I deserve an easy week I guess. :)

BilboSwaggins
05-22-2013, 08:39 PM
Level 100 Commander with 65 Storm Sorcerer finished 11th fight solo, added a knight with 70 Swamp Shaman up until 15th, 15th was won with the addition of an 100 friend.

I personally enjoy the changes; I found previously that the armors were far too readily attainable for the stats they were boasting. At least now it's a relative challenge to get such powerful armors. 43 should be quite hard, let alone 60.

Nieriel
05-22-2013, 08:48 PM
Here I was, I finally passed level 60 and had AA+ at level 50 so I thought I was going to do real well against this boss.

Nope, they jacked up his power so once again I will be lucky to get past level 15.

At least the armor at level 15 is more powerful than what I have now in the same elements. If I am really lucky and get the nemesis on one DPC pick I might do half-way decent.

Bobalisha
05-22-2013, 09:00 PM
Just cleaned up my friends list. Lvl 96. Have special nem armour. Add me to aide in thy quest. XBB FZP CXD

Jremsber
05-22-2013, 09:15 PM
Im lvl 75 with full nemesis. Adding lvl70+ and/or with full nemesis only. Please dont send a request if you are lower than level 70.

XBB-PXY-FBV
XBB-PXY-FBV
XBB-PXY-FBV

Wook
05-22-2013, 09:24 PM
Only add if you have nemesis or usually get nemesis, I have current Twin Jian Nemesis at max level, Please add.

XBB-XYG-PFD

Marcial1234
05-22-2013, 09:32 PM
All the levels are now are twice as hard as they used to be. So now the level 30ish (or rather 28) is just as hard as the last boss level 60. Only chance people have of getting the + version of this armor is either buying hell load of energy or paying the 11 gems to get 2x of the drop on the summoning stone. Unless they either raise the friends cap, energy cap, giving 10 energy each time you beat the boss or raise the stats cap at level 100 there's pretty much no chance anyone would get + versions from now one. Maybe the 3 or 4 overachievers will, but that would be about it.

Genocide788
05-22-2013, 09:38 PM
What are the stats for the bosses summoned via the summoning stone? The same as level 1 or? Does it increase each time you defeat it at the summoning stone?

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 09:45 PM
In my opinion rather than enticing more gem buyers this move will turn off a lot more once they realize how pointless it is to try to get the + version. Maybe they didn't reach the monthly quota this month lol.

busteroaf
05-22-2013, 09:47 PM
It may turn off some people, but there are surely others who will think "if I just buy one more chunk of gems, I'll get it... " or "one more chance at the chest for the nemesis"... there will ALWAYS be others.

Arclight
05-22-2013, 09:54 PM
Well. I was happy for finishing stage 43 yesterday and got a good +armor. Seen this badass looking armor today when I woke up and those stats and thought something like, BAZINGA! But then I realized they doubled the difficulty... Guess I will make it barely to stage 21...

Mygochu
05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
Did they increase the energy drop rate? I had 50 energy before level 15. Also need some high nem friends xP add me. lvl 87+ with nem

XBB-VRR-WCY

Genocide788
05-22-2013, 10:05 PM
Did they increase the energy drop rate? I had 50 energy before level 15. Also need some high nem friends xP add me. lvl 87+ with nem

XBB-VRR-WCY

Drop rate? Not sure but they increased the quantity, It now drops 10 EE instead of 5.

Raistmar
05-22-2013, 10:12 PM
It may turn off some people, but there are surely others who will think "if I just buy one more chunk of gems, I'll get it... " or "one more chance at the chest for the nemesis"... there will ALWAYS be others.

I get your point, but that way of thinking is more for those trying to get legendaries from the the dpc. But spending it solely on the boss that's gonna be too steep.

If a mid lvl player attempts for the + version of this armor. They're gonna find it SO much more difficult. With a friend cap of 10 per day.

Or maybe I'm just giving everybody too much benefit of a doubt.

musizian
05-22-2013, 10:43 PM
Hey guys, i am running for 43 again. Love the armour.

I have a nemesis soon max level.. If you have nemesis too, please add me to your friend.
XBC FMG GMC

RockLee
05-22-2013, 11:02 PM
Man this is pretty cool, a challenge for players I guess. I've managed to get a black kaleidoscopic armor and a nemesis in 10 chest. Used the keys I got from the previous boss rewards haha.

That's quite lucky!!!... Black kaleidoscopic!!! It rocks! This is the first week I reached lvl100 and tot I can have a shot at the DPC keys but think I was just a tad too late! Argh... Spend 40 gems on DPC but all I got is touchflame and Indian Chief Molten armor... =_="

Wondering if I she buy some gems to get a shot at the nemesis...

Sunsfan1caw
05-22-2013, 11:02 PM
What are the stats for the bosses summoned via the summoning stone? The same as level 1 or? Does it increase each time you defeat it at the summoning stone?

If it's like previous bosses, the stats will be the same as the level 1 boss and will remain the same each time you fight it.

ang1977
05-22-2013, 11:21 PM
better than DPCs with no guaranteed.

i do hope better and stronger armours released for boss event so as to balance the field abit with those black kale/aegis/frosty/ww+/sky g+. or else its pointless for this change if gree were to release more imbalance armours from DPCs. By then, i'll quit. i think many will too. left that few lucky/rich fellows enjoying fighting each other in the arena.

Climax
05-22-2013, 11:37 PM
Lvl 86 maxed nemesis, going for 43!! Add me if you have nemesiS, but pm me first with your name.
XBB-VPM-VVC

Lcharlie
05-22-2013, 11:41 PM
I am not sure what all the complaint is about. I personally like the challenge for better rewards. The old boss format was too easy. A level 50 player with 10 strong friends shouldn't be able to get to level 43. The plus version should be hard to get for level 75-100 players and level 60 should be only attainable for level100+ players with strong friends. It was stupid to see half of the players in the arena with the plus version of the boss armor from the previous week. Level 60 should be attainable without spending more gems than the reward but it should be sufficiently hard so that only the strongest players can get it and not every low level with 10 high level friends. A low level can still choose to spend a lot of gems to get the plus version or work hard to level and develop their armors so they can beat the boss in the future.

deathexe
05-22-2013, 11:45 PM
I am not sure what all the complaint is about. I personally like the challenge for better rewards. The old boss format was too easy. A level 50 player with 10 strong friends shouldn't be able to get to level 43. The plus version should be hard to get for level 75-100 players and level 60 should be only attainable for level100+ players with strong friends. It was stupid to see half of the players in the arena with the plus version of the boss armor from the previous week. Level 60 should be attainable without spending more gems than the reward but it should be sufficiently hard so that only the strongest players can get it and not every low level with 10 high level friends. A low level can still choose to spend a lot of gems to get the plus version or work hard to level and develop their armors so they can beat the boss in the future.

I have the exact sentiment. It's great to know that at least when we work hard, we're getting something other players won't be able to get that easily. I guess it finally makes boss armors limited edition.

Aradan
05-23-2013, 12:35 AM
it really is quite easy before, but i think they took it too far since now its going to cost a pretty penny to be able to make it to just 43 more then likely. or very constant activity every day.

I am kinda glad on android they have it on the old boss system, not because its just easy, but because there isn't many high level and strong players, and those that are up there haven't gotten nemesis for the last 3 weeks. So for us over there it is more about just leveling up yourself and your armors and hoping your friends have good armors too.

tablot
05-23-2013, 12:55 AM
Hey guys, I have the nemesis armor every week and lvl 91. Looking for friends with nemesis armor. its a tough roat to 60 for this one. Let's work together

add me! XBB-RCF-WNX

Do drop me a private message so I will know its you.. I am flooded with requests and clearing them everyday.

DeHello
05-23-2013, 12:59 AM
Hi guys ive got maxed nemsis for this boss and am lv 92.Please add me If u are lv 80+ and have nemesis Thanks

Ikasius
05-23-2013, 04:10 AM
Hi!

Very active player. Lvl 76.
I need friends with nemesis.
Can you help me out?
Thnx

XBB-HMY-HMC

shukai84
05-23-2013, 04:22 AM
ooo the new Twin Jian is sooo tough! i am struck at 21 !argh!!!!!

dun tink i will ever complete the stupig quest!

is the Jian's battlegear + more powerful than rainment or wad?


EQUIPPED WITH NEMESIS LVL 84 XBB-QPR-DQB

deathexe
05-23-2013, 04:38 AM
ooo the new Twin Jian is sooo tough! i am struck at 21 !argh!!!!!

dun tink i will ever complete the stupig quest!

is the Jian's battlegear + more powerful than rainment or


EQUIPPED WITH NEMESIS LVL 84 XBB-QPR-DQB

You can see the final stats of the + version on the boss screen, it's a pretty good armor

deathexe
05-23-2013, 04:39 AM
If the boss continues with the same trend in terms of strength, do you guys think level 100s will still be able to reach 43 without a nemesis? But with good 70 armors of course.

Brutus
05-23-2013, 04:58 AM
If the boss continues with the same trend in terms of strength, do you guys think level 100s will still be able to reach 43 without a nemesis? But with good 70 armors of course.

Highly unlikely. This change really is over the top. Instead of making it harder, they made it impossible. If decently geared lvl 100+ stand no chance of gaining the +version of boss armors, why even bother playing?

ang1977
05-23-2013, 04:59 AM
If the boss continues with the same trend in terms of strength, do you guys think level 100s will still be able to reach 43 without a nemesis? But with good 70 armors of course.

It's a premium for gems spenders to get the +version. Non gems spenders will still be able to get the normal version but need to fight hard and longer time in arena. Comparing with getting epic armours from dpcs is a lot worthy. It's evolved into a cash+hard work+strategy game. No longer the non gems spenders gonna have the same stand as gems spenders.

shynniez
05-23-2013, 05:01 AM
There is a known bug/glitch that you can skip the boss level and still receive the prize without having to do any damage on the boss ;) . Not sure if I should tell the forum....

Mike Stanley
05-23-2013, 05:07 AM
Pm for those who really want this armor like me

deathexe
05-23-2013, 05:08 AM
There is a known bug/glitch that you can skip the boss level and still receive the prize without having to do any damage on the boss ;) . Not sure if I should tell the forum....

Isn't the glitch causing players to gain a level but not the rewards? That's what's circulating in the forum recently.

shynniez
05-23-2013, 05:10 AM
Yes for the reward, # of items matches perfectly when I skip the 15th boss for a craftable armor.

Mike Stanley
05-23-2013, 05:11 AM
Should I upgrade the regular Jians battle gear because there is no way that im going to get to 43

deathexe
05-23-2013, 05:19 AM
Should I upgrade the regular Jians battle gear because there is no way that im going to get to 43

No, you shouldn't. You shouldn't even craft it if you can't reach 43 cause you may always get the battlegear from the dpc.

Brutus
05-23-2013, 05:25 AM
Challenge accepted!? Wonder who'll be the first to 60!

My guess is no one

Nieriel
05-23-2013, 06:00 AM
I just got a Nemesis that starts 422/402 and I was wondering if it is the 2x version or not. It does seem like a pretty high starting point for stats...

basbeer
05-23-2013, 06:06 AM
For those who want to add me this week I just cleared most of my friends list.

I have maxed Nemesis and am at lvl 92. Code is in my sig.

Hey man, I just added you. My ign is basbeer. :)

Goodluck with this weeks boss and see ya ingame!

zhara
05-23-2013, 06:46 AM
The boss is harder, yes, but you have to admit something, both the boss armor & nemesis are awesome (in my own opinion anyway :D)

Lcharlie
05-23-2013, 06:55 AM
it really is quite easy before, but i think they took it too far since now its going to cost a pretty penny to be able to make it to just 43 more then likely. or very constant activity every day.

I am kinda glad on android they have it on the old boss system, not because its just easy, but because there isn't many high level and strong players, and those that are up there haven't gotten nemesis for the last 3 weeks. So for us over there it is more about just leveling up yourself and your armors and hoping your friends have good armors too.

What region do you live in? I am not able to get the Android versions, says that it is not availability my country.

Chris_$
05-23-2013, 07:16 AM
There is a known bug/glitch that you can skip the boss level and still receive the prize without having to do any damage on the boss ;) . Not sure if I should tell the forum....Screw it pm me that someone if would

Cloud11
05-23-2013, 07:22 AM
Do add me up for those who have not. Lv 82 with max nemesis. Only accepting nemesis jian equipped... Really goin for + armor
XBB-XFR-NMQ

Climax
05-23-2013, 07:31 AM
Screw it pm me that someone if would

People talked about this on the forum, but you don't receive any materials which means you don't get the resources to craft the armor.

Like people who had that bug on lvl 43 would have to complete 44 to get enough for the + version.

Chris_$
05-23-2013, 07:40 AM
People talked about this on the forum, but you don't receive any materials which means you don't get the resources to craft the armor.

Like people who had that bug on lvl 43 would have to complete 44 to get enough for the + version.Oh sigh well idk if this game is going to make it if they keep being GREEdy

Saeryth
05-23-2013, 07:42 AM
I'm level 76 with max Nemesis, and I'm looking for help with the boss this week. Please add me as a friend if you have Nemesis gear for this week. Thanks!

Saeryth
XBB-RFM-HPQ

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 07:43 AM
People talked about this on the forum, but you don't receive any materials which means you don't get the resources to craft the armor.

Like people who had that bug on lvl 43 would have to complete 44 to get enough for the + version.

They don't recieve the drops, but do they get the rewards entailed for let's say killing the lvl 15 boss?

Climax
05-23-2013, 07:46 AM
They don't recieve the drops, but do they get the rewards entailed for let's say killing the lvl 15 boss?

Not sure but I think so.

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 07:51 AM
I have made it to 43! :> Waiting to craft the + version though..

clevoh
05-23-2013, 07:52 AM
I have the nemesis, working on maxing it out with one account. Will work on getting it with the other. If you have the nemesis or level 75+, feel free to add both accounts. Hope I can help you out.

level 119 XBB HBG BNQ
level 96 XBB HBG XBR

Thanks!!

Climax
05-23-2013, 07:55 AM
I have made it to 43! :> Waiting to craft the + version though..

When did you need to start buying energy to complete a level?

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 08:02 AM
When did you need to start buying energy to complete a level?

At roughly 30+.

hhm
05-23-2013, 08:10 AM
Gotta say man, you are the man.

I have made it to 43! :> Waiting to craft the + version though..

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 08:22 AM
Gotta say man, you are the man.

Thanks! This boss is getting ridiculously overpowered though. I feel like he's gonna 2 shot my maxed AA+ at level 51.

deathexe
05-23-2013, 08:23 AM
Thanks! This boss is getting ridiculously overpowered though. I feel like he's gonna 2 shot my maxed AA+ at level 51.

Would it be possible to kill the level 43 boss with 8 energy?

truline
05-23-2013, 08:24 AM
Is it safe to say that they made this boss too hard?

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 08:25 AM
Thanks! This boss is getting ridiculously overpowered though. I feel like he's gonna 2 shot my maxed AA+ at level 51.

Which armor would be better AA+ or shaman?

And can you take it out with a 5 and 2 toons?

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 08:27 AM
Would it be possible to kill the level 43 boss with 8 energy?

Nope, you'd need at least 14. The first 8 with your friends+your knights, the second 6 is to finish the boss off with your knights. Although, it depends on what armor you're using. I'm using AA+, nemesis, and Aegis of the dragon+.

deathexe
05-23-2013, 08:30 AM
Nope, you'd need at least 14. The first 8 with your friends+your knights, the second 6 is to finish the boss off with your knights. Although, it depends on what armor you're using. I'm using AA+, nemesis, and Aegis of the dragon+.

Oh man, only have nemesis, AA+ and swamp shaman+. How bout 42 then?

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 08:33 AM
Oh man, only have nemesis, AA+ and swamp shaman+. How bout 42 then?

42 is doable, with 8 energies, you would have to get kinda lucky though.

Sir.
05-23-2013, 08:34 AM
Nope, you'd need at least 14. The first 8 with your friends+your knights, the second 6 is to finish the boss off with your knights. Although, it depends on what armor you're using. I'm using AA+, nemesis, and Aegis of the dragon+.

So it's confirmed that the + armour can't be achieved without buying energy then. Unless summoning stone but that takes even more gems.

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 08:35 AM
How bout 3 and 3 all nemesis? How many hits does the nemesis usually gets off?

deathexe
05-23-2013, 08:36 AM
42 is doable, with 8 energies, you would have to get kinda lucky though.

Alrighty, thanks for the info, I should be able to reach 43 this time then XD

deathexe
05-23-2013, 08:39 AM
While I do welcome the challenge posed by the new event boss, I'm hoping it won't be this difficult from now on. 43 should still be allowed to be achieved by level 100 players with 3 strong 70 armors without having nemesis. At least it won't be over biased towards the paying population of the game. Maybe somewhere in between the initial difficulty and current difficulty would be good.

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 08:43 AM
How bout 3 and 3 all nemesis? How many hits does the nemesis usually gets off?

The nemesis gets off about 4-5 hits depending on if the boss uses its special attack. But, even with all 5 knights a maxed nemesis still only hits for 1.7k.

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 08:50 AM
The nemesis gets off about 4-5 hits depending on if the boss uses its special attack. But, even with all 5 knights a maxed nemesis still only hits for 1.7k.

Man this is another one of those empty promises. If they did not make it a "super" nemesis, having it would be totally pointless just imagine how much dmg dealt and taken a 440/404 nemesis do.

So I'm guessing anyone that doesn't get the nemesis today won't be so happy lol.

Sir.
05-23-2013, 09:07 AM
Man this is another one of those empty promises. If they did not make it a "super" nemesis, having it would be totally pointless just imagine how much dmg dealt and taken a 440/404 nemesis do.

So I'm guessing anyone that doesn't get the nemesis today won't be so happy lol.

What they effectively did is nerfing the power of the regular armor, making it more necessary to use nemesis on the epic boss. Thus more people wanting/needing it, more chests being opened, etc etc.

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 09:20 AM
What they effectively did is nerfing the power of the regular armor, making it more necessary to use nemesis on the epic boss. Thus more people wanting/needing it, more chests being opened, etc etc.

It's not just the regular armor that loses out, starting tomorrow they would be reverting back to the regular nemesis. So for people that didn't manage to get it today would have be at a disadvantage. 404 def attacked by 1k+ dmg. I shudder just thinking about it lol.

But I'm thinking there'd be another sale on sat/sun with an improved nemesis or an EE sale. I'm really thinking they fell short on the monthly quota this month haha.

Leosimas
05-23-2013, 09:35 AM
I have the exact sentiment. It's great to know that at least when we work hard, we're getting something other players won't be able to get that easily. I guess it finally makes boss armors limited edition.
The problem is that to kill boss 43 it would be like killing boss 86, on the last versions.
Almost impossible the rewards for boss 60 could be 100 DPC(2000gems). I doubt that anybody could reach without spending so much money.

Sir.
05-23-2013, 10:14 AM
It's not just the regular armor that loses out, starting tomorrow they would be reverting back to the regular nemesis. So for people that didn't manage to get it today would have be at a disadvantage. 404 def attacked by 1k+ dmg. I shudder just thinking about it lol.

But I'm thinking there'd be another sale on sat/sun with an improved nemesis or an EE sale. I'm really thinking they fell short on the monthly quota this month haha.

You're right, I didn't even realise this was a temporarely offer.

konofo
05-23-2013, 10:17 AM
I'm level 75 with maxed nemesis, got a few friend slots available.
XBB HCX DVV

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 11:32 AM
Just passed level 51. I had to fight it twice, first time i only took out half of its health.

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 11:39 AM
Both of it with a full party?

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 11:43 AM
Both of it with a full party?

Yup... Now I'm out of friends...

Gunghoe
05-23-2013, 12:30 PM
Id dearly love to to get the plus version of this armour. If anyone with nemesis could help id really appreciate it.
Currently lvl 72 and made it to 13 wins with no nemesis.
Please pm me your code if your able to help me and il add you

Adagio
05-23-2013, 01:04 PM
When you defeat Jian 15 times do you get the armor?

Jrodigy
05-23-2013, 01:17 PM
Hah they gave this boss some steroids.
At any rate, i haven't calculated yet but i figure anyone with a good amount of nemesis friends and decent armour themselves should be able to get to 43 within a week, if not rack up your gems from vids and buy some energy...the boss does drop some everynow and then in incriments of 10 ;]

Mike Stanley
05-23-2013, 01:20 PM
Yeah when you beat the boss 15 times you get the regular I wouldn't suggest fully upgrading the regular + is so much better

Adagio
05-23-2013, 02:14 PM
You can upgrade the one given to you to earn the plus version. Is the normal version strong anyway for a level 40

Adagio
05-23-2013, 02:16 PM
Nemesis armor people add me!!!! XBC HPP MNV

HELP ME AND I'LL BE HELPING YOU WHEN I GET HIGHER

Sir William
05-23-2013, 02:19 PM
When you defeat Jian 15 times do you get the armor?

Once you beat the boss 15 times you do not automatically get the boss armor.
You simply unlock the ability to craft it.
Think earning enough materials to craft it.

Barryboo
05-23-2013, 02:21 PM
I think it was a good idea to make it harder but I think they have made it a little to hard.
If you dont get nemesis you are screwed.
I dont do anything other than fight epic boss. Now half way through the week im gona hit a brick wall as the boss will be very hard to get past.
I can see this putting people off.

Sir William
05-23-2013, 02:48 PM
I think it was a good idea to make it harder but I think they have made it a little to hard.
If you dont get nemesis you are screwed.
I dont do anything other than fight epic boss. Now half way through the week im gona hit a brick wall as the boss will be very hard to get past.
I can see this putting people off.

I disagree.
I think for the most part the new difficulty will allow people who should be focusing on other aspects of the game will now be forced to focus on those things.

For example, when I first started I immediately began chasing the boss armors. I neglected leveling through the game map and upgrading armors.

Finally I stepped back and reevaluated my goals and am on the right track. I generally kill the boss to level 28 and don't bother after that. I use my friends for leveling up.

It took me until level 70 to clear the entire map and 65 before I had the main 4 maxed out because I was chasing the wrong things.

Now I have the big four maxed out and am levelin 2-3 a day by using my friends wisely and can progress more efficiently.


I doubt the majority of people chasing the + version of boss have even cleared the full map or leveled main 4 up to max, let alone unlocked the + version of all armors from the map.

There are other tasks to be focused on that have nothing to do with boss and hopefully the difficulty of the boss will allow those who've completed these tasks to chase the + version or 60 kills more appropriately.

My .02

Barryboo
05-23-2013, 02:59 PM
I have completed the map and am level 100+.
I have crafted all the armors I want from competing the map. Im just trying to get better ones from the weekly boss.
Now you NEED the nemesis to get to a decent level on the boss.

Raistmar
05-23-2013, 03:07 PM
I disagree.
I think for the most part the new difficulty will allow people who should be focusing on other aspects of the game will now be forced...

My .02

Increasing the level of difficulty is all good but at what they did made it impossible for any casual non gem spending player to even attempt a + version. They might even have a hard time just gettin to 15.

What level do you think the majority of the players are? So is this boss targeted for the higher level player? The problem is at level 100 people are still having a hard time.

Sir William
05-23-2013, 03:19 PM
I have completed the map and am level 100+.
I have crafted all the armors I want from competing the map. Im just trying to get better ones from the weekly boss.
Now you NEED the nemesis to get to a decent level on the boss.

But it begs the question,
What are you TRYING to get better armors from the boss for? What purpose does it serve? To win arena battles and place well? To level up quicker or easier?

All of these things can be accomplished without the +version of the boss armor. You may spend more time farming but not any more than meticulously fighting all week for a boss armor that will be overshadowed the day after this weeks boss event.

Just food for thought.

If it's a collectors thing, by all means they made it too hard.

But my original point still stands, the new difficulty should push players to focus on the game overall who shouldn't be chasing boss+ anyways b


Overall, I think it is too difficult. Even and especially for just the non + version.

Barryboo
05-23-2013, 03:30 PM
But it begs the question,
What are you TRYING to get better armors from the boss for? What purpose does it serve? To win arena battles and place well? To level up quicker or easier?

All of these things can be accomplished without the +version of the boss armor. You may spend more time farming but not any more than meticulously fighting all week for a boss armor that will be overshadowed the day after this weeks boss event.

Just food for thought.

If it's a collectors thing, by all means they made it too hard.

But my original point still stands, the new difficulty should push players to focus on the game overall who shouldn't be chasing boss+ anyways b


Overall, I think it is too difficult. Even and especially for just the non + version.

Why do people need pushed? If people want to take on the boss then they should be able to.
Like I said,I have completed all the map and collected everything I want from it.
The reason im doing the boss is to get better armor for the arena. Now the rewards are better it has made it worth doing.

Sir William
05-23-2013, 03:36 PM
Why do people need pushed? If people want to take on the boss then they should be able to.
Like I said,I have completed all the map and collected everything I want from it.
The reason im doing the boss is to get better armor for the arena. Now the rewards are better it has made it worth doing.

Well the best armor in the game, which would help your arena endeavors, isn't available with this or any weekly boss.
Wouldn't your time be better spent doing free gem offers trying to get black kaleidoscopic armor in the DPC?

I'm just playing devils advocate because I do think its TOO difficult with where it is, but my original point again is that there shouldn't be so many people upset about it. Just the 100+ who actually should be chasing the boss+.

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 04:07 PM
Even if you're using 3 nemesis and 2 friends with nemesis, it's not possible to take out the boss from 51+ just once, you'd need to do it at least twice.

ang1977
05-23-2013, 04:39 PM
when players spent so much on gems to try on the DPCs for epic armours, they really pray they do get it.And finally, they got it but not the + version. Yet they still prefer to max it out and glad that they are lucky enough to have won it.

But now? players only need to spend so much lesser ( or no need to spend with allies)comparing to those gems spenders on DPCs to get the very basic normal version. Yes its normal version, but just consider how fortunate you are to get that armour at such cheap cost. if this jian armour+ is better than flamehunter+, then i suppose the normal version is also better than the normal flamehunter or almost equal.

conclusion is, if gems spenders can max a normal version of any epic armours from DPCs with much $$$$ spent, why can't non spenders do it after attaining the normal version @ lvl 15 with 7 days of friends' help?

goodies are served right in front of you fortunate players for free, still having high expectations?

zhy
05-23-2013, 04:41 PM
but u cant use 3 nemesis + 2 lol

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 04:54 PM
but u cant use 3 nemesis + 2 lol

I know.. lol but even if you did, you still can't beat the boss in one go.

Laqattack
05-23-2013, 05:39 PM
I just got the nemesis armor and I'm at level 73: Add me!

xbc-cff-mrn

Leosimas
05-23-2013, 05:40 PM
I know.. lol but even if you did, you still can't beat the boss in one go.
King, how do you get to 51 in one day?

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 05:46 PM
King, how do you get to 51 in one day?

I actually got to 35 yesterday, and got to 51 today. I have just been getting lucky with epic energy drops.

hhm
05-23-2013, 06:01 PM
I still think waiting when Gree do the 5 gem Boss revive would be my best bet. probably cheapest way to get this armor and can also use friends for leveling.

Genocide788
05-23-2013, 06:04 PM
Crap i failed at 15 using 2 friends with Nemisis. Went back in again and still failed, Was pretty close tho. Seems its out of reach for the lower level players at the moment. AA+ is already at lvl 40. I guess i have to quickly get that Cirus + and enhance it before i can win 15.
If i summon it at the summoning stones now when Jian is still this weeks boss, Will it be level 1 or the current level i left it at, which is 14?

Leosimas
05-23-2013, 06:29 PM
Crap i failed at 15 using 2 friends with Nemisis. Went back in again and still failed, Was pretty close tho. Seems its out of reach for the lower level players at the moment. AA+ is already at lvl 40. I guess i have to quickly get that Cirus + and enhance it before i can win 15.
If i summon it at the summoning stones now when Jian is still this weeks boss, Will it be level 1 or the current level i left it at, which is 14?
Unlimited times level 1

deathexe
05-23-2013, 06:38 PM
Well the best armor in the game, which would help your arena endeavors, isn't available with this or any weekly boss.
Wouldn't your time be better spent doing free gem offers trying to get black kaleidoscopic armor in the DPC?

I'm just playing devils advocate because I do think its TOO difficult with where it is, but my original point again is that there shouldn't be so many people upset about it. Just the 100+ who actually should be chasing the boss+.

I don't think you're getting the point. What the forum members are trying to say is that even level 100+ with 70 armors who have also completed the game are having trouble reaching 43 without the nemesis. So how do you expect us to chase these boss armors when we can't even do it without a nemesis even when we have 3 maxed 70+ armors?

For level 100 players, event bossing is the only thing we can do, either the the arena that is. However, the fact that we're unable to reach the +version without gens would mean that effectively we have almost nothing to do late game. I do welcome a challenge, and it prevents lower leveled players from getting armors that only the higher leveled players should be getting. However, I think GREE made it a little but too difficult this time round.

Sir William
05-23-2013, 06:52 PM
I don't think you're getting the point. What the forum members are trying to say is that even level 100+ with 70 armors who have also completed the game are having trouble reaching 43 without the nemesis. So how do you expect us to chase these boss armors when we can't even do it without a nemesis even when we have 3 maxed 70+ armors?

For level 100 players, event bossing is the only thing we can do, either the the arena that is. However, the fact that we're unable to reach the +version without gens would mean that effectively we have almost nothing to do late game. I do welcome a challenge, and it prevents lower leveled players from getting armors that only the higher leveled players should be getting. However, I think GREE made it a little but too difficult this time round.

But I agree with your point.

I've said twice before that I think they DID make it too difficult.

My original point is that there shouldn't be as many people frustrated by the change as there are.
Not everyone should be frustrated, just the 100+ who can't reach it without spending gems.

Mike Stanley
05-23-2013, 06:54 PM
I have a question should i use my gems to open a DPC or keep my gems and use them for buying energy for this boss currently at boss lvl 19

Sir William
05-23-2013, 06:57 PM
I have a question should i use my gems to open a DPC or keep my gems and use them for buying energy for this boss currently at boss lvl 19

It depends.

Do you have all your training fields or your source of gold input maxed out?

shukai84
05-23-2013, 06:57 PM
YEAH! I crafting my amr to lvl 35 for + version!

:D

Sunsfan1caw
05-23-2013, 07:03 PM
YEAH! I crafting my amr to lvl 35 for + version!

:D

Nice! Just curious, what are the stats for the normal version?

Marcial1234
05-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Right now buying energy is the best way to spend gems. The DPC is gambling your gems away while energy you are guaranteed with something. Enjoy the prices while you can since i bet that Gree's next move.

Gree just killed the, not highly motivated already, 100+ players and the little loyalty we have. In the course of a month or so if things keep going they way they are now this game will be filled with low level players who are exited about unlocking new areas and getting the basic armors. Long term players see how declining the quality of the game becomes and we just leave ~ and that's how it is.

But seriously, if they doubled everything at least they can freaking have an option of accelerating the regeneration cap on the 10 friends we can use per day or raising its cap and/or the energy one. Anyhow, I'm just waiting on one last blow to quit.

Mike Stanley
05-23-2013, 07:15 PM
It depends.

Do you have all your training fields or your source of gold input maxed out?

Yeah I got my training fields maxed

Thegoodman
05-23-2013, 07:18 PM
The level 18 Twin Jian has 17621 hp with 876 ATK, 834 DEF. Level 17 went down with just 3 knights, no friends. I assume i'll need to start using friends at level 20, if not before.

I am level 103 with maxed Nemesis. I am going to do my best to get to a + of this armor since I don't have any good options for Fire/Water at this time.

Please add me if you are also 90+ and you have the nemesis.
XBB-GBG-FWC

Sir William
05-23-2013, 07:31 PM
Yeah I got my training fields maxed

Then I agree. Go with energy

It's not a gamble.

Mike Stanley
05-23-2013, 07:48 PM
Alright thanks

Bobalisha
05-23-2013, 07:52 PM
Got 43 kills? Spill it - your level, gear, numbers and amount of energy used. Be a community hero!

yyace
05-23-2013, 07:52 PM
may I suggest reviving your party with 12 gems as oppose to buying epic energy at higher levels as you will run out of friends faster at higher levels since your using two at a time. Just a thought.

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 07:59 PM
Well guys..
http://tinypic.com/r/2uf6av8/5
Look at those stats.. ahaha..

yyace
05-23-2013, 08:00 PM
ouch....that will leave a mark

deathexe
05-23-2013, 08:03 PM
But I agree with your point.

I've said twice before that I think they DID make it too difficult.

My original point is that there shouldn't be as many people frustrated by the change as there are.
Not everyone should be frustrated, just the 100+ who can't reach it without spending gems.


Oh alrights, haha I see where you're coming from. Yeah, I mean when you're 100 and can't get the version, you know there's a problem going on already.

Genocide788
05-23-2013, 08:18 PM
Well guys..
http://tinypic.com/r/2uf6av8/5
Look at those stats.. ahaha..

Out curiosity, did you have to spend gems to get to 60?

KingPoop
05-23-2013, 08:20 PM
Out curiosity, did you have to spend gems to get to 60?

Yup, I did.

Wook
05-23-2013, 08:44 PM
Yup, I did.

lol. Just a few right? =]

hhm
05-23-2013, 08:52 PM
Anyone know the normal version's base stats, and how much does it increase?

BigBoss_01
05-23-2013, 08:57 PM
Active player, started recently.

Thatzme
05-23-2013, 10:14 PM
Anyone know the normal version's base stats, and how much does it increase?

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/thatzme18/40C6F346-F220-4D2E-A6B5-54B49C1A7B86-1994-000000FBCA39F3B9_zps31053686.jpg

Starting stats: 366 att 315 def
Increment per lvl: 10 att 7 def
Final stats: 1056 att 798 def
Total stats: 1854

Conclusion: not as good as flamehunter but better than exo+

A good fire/water armor to get even if nonplus.

ang1977
05-24-2013, 12:42 AM
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/thatzme18/40C6F346-F220-4D2E-A6B5-54B49C1A7B86-1994-000000FBCA39F3B9_zps31053686.jpg

Starting stats: 366 att 315 def
Increment per lvl: 10 att 7 def
Final stats: 1056 att 798 def
Total stats: 1854

Conclusion: not as good as flamehunter but better than exo+

A good fire/water armor to get even if nonplus.Expected to be almost equal to flamehunter, but too bad it's 1xx lower in stats. guess its the usual trick gree played to push players going for the +version which require to spend $$$. cheers everyone !

Leosimas
05-24-2013, 02:01 AM
Right now buying energy is the best way to spend gems. The DPC is gambling your gems away while energy you are guaranteed with something. Enjoy the prices while you can since i bet that Gree's next move.

Gree just killed the, not highly motivated already, 100+ players and the little loyalty we have. In the course of a month or so if things keep going they way they are now this game will be filled with low level players who are exited about unlocking new areas and getting the basic armors. Long term players see how declining the quality of the game becomes and we just leave ~ and that's how it is.

But seriously, if they doubled everything at least they can freaking have an option of accelerating the regeneration cap on the 10 friends we can use per day or raising its cap and/or the energy one. Anyhow, I'm just waiting on one last blow to quit.

This'll be my last GREE game. Instead of creating new areas, raise our stats and HP cap.
They nerf the only attraction of this game.
GREE wins!
1 month time to see things better, if no I quit.

KnD
05-24-2013, 02:57 AM
Think I am going to need some help with this one.. In the 90+ for level, got nem, add me on XBB-HMM-XNH

Thanks

Nieriel
05-24-2013, 07:43 AM
I completely understand why all the 100+ level people are very mad. I probably would be too if I had invested that much time into the game.

I am still enjoying the game, only at mid 60th level and there is a lot more for me to discover.

I hope Gree does some more adjusting and makes those who invested so much time in the game happier.

ang1977
05-24-2013, 09:20 AM
I completely understand why all the 100+ level people are very mad. I probably would be too if I had invested that much time into the game.

I am still enjoying the game, only at mid 60th level and there is a lot more for me to discover.

I hope Gree does some more adjusting and makes those who invested so much time in the game happier.

it's the same for any games you play. the better, popular and addictive it is, the more it requires you to spend.

non spenders - normal membership(only normal version boss armours)
light spenders - silver membership(normal version & plus version boss armours)
average spenders - gold membership(all plus version boss armours)
heavy spenders - platinum membership(plus version boss armours & some epic armours from DPCs)
extreme spenders - titanium membership(everything)

Epon
05-24-2013, 09:34 AM
I'm not terribly happy with the new boss either and am hoping that its a 'gimmick' for the whole Gemini/Twins thing with the two heads, double strength, etc. I was certain to get at least 51, even though I blanked again on nemises armor after 6 DPCs (although at least I got a couple decent +version armors, which is better than last week where I got 5 chests of crap). After reading how hard the boss is though, I decided not to keep trying. Hopefully I'll still get 43 and hope for better luck and an easier boss next week. If I don't get 43, at least I know a lot others haven't either.

I know my daughter, who also plays, was hoping to reach 43 for the first time and that's not going to happen this week.

DarkVoltz
05-24-2013, 12:01 PM
Can somebody with nemesis armour lend me a hand for level 15 plz? :p

XBB-ZDZ-YNR

Adagio
05-24-2013, 12:01 PM
O my f)@$&$& god!!!!:( I can't freakin kill a Lvl 15 Jian even with two Lvl 50 + aa armors and two level 100 friends with nemesis!!! Like word i don't knownwhat to do. The power jumps on these bosses is faking retarted. What should I do?

Adagio
05-24-2013, 12:03 PM
Can somebody with nemesis armour lend me a hand for level 15 plz? :p

XBB-ZDZ-YNR

Even with friends with nemesis armor, the boss will start bs around 15 kills even with nemeis
I'm Lvl 40 XBC HPP MNV

Raistmar
05-24-2013, 12:07 PM
Time it so you have 10 energy and 2 hours. Attack it with a full 5 party, then wait for 1 1/2 hours. And take 2 knights if the boss still has substantial health take another friend with nemesis instead of your own toon.

If that still doesn't kill it better luck next time.

DarkVoltz
05-24-2013, 12:13 PM
Time it so you have 10 energy and 2 hours. Attack it with a full 5 party, then wait for 1 1/2 hours. And take 2 knights if the boss still has substantial health take another friend with nemesis instead of your own toon.

If that still doesn't kill it better luck next time.

thats what i ised to do,
but now i dont have any friends with nemesis ;(

Raistmar
05-24-2013, 12:15 PM
Well you wait for the refresh. By the looks of it there's no way for you to attempt the +version. So other than buying extra energy to take it out, the next best course of action is to wait.

DarkVoltz
05-24-2013, 12:17 PM
Well you wait for the refresh. By the looks of it there's no way for you to attempt the +version. So other than buying extra energy to take it out, the next best course of action is to wait.

wasted gems on dark chest
no luck with anything even good
mostly keep getting rare armour

Raistmar
05-24-2013, 01:53 PM
Guess they realized how pointless a normal nemesis would be on this boss cause they extended the "super" nemesis time frame. Instead of just one day, they decided to have it throughout the event.

lol.

ang1977
05-24-2013, 02:31 PM
Guess they realized how pointless a normal nemesis would be on this boss cause they extended the "super" nemesis time frame. Instead of just one day, they decided to have it through our the event.

lol.

i realise the drop rate of this nemesis has lowered after updating it from the forum. took me around 2x over DPCs to hit it. without this nemesis, no way we can nail down the boss. good that gree extend the offer so that late buyers can still get the super version.

Adagio
05-24-2013, 02:45 PM
How do you know if your friend hasthe 2x nemesis armor? And can anyone with other 2x nemesis Armor help me? ADD XBC HPP MNV

Annilihator
05-24-2013, 04:31 PM
For those who want to add me this week I just cleared most of my friends list.

I have maxed Nemesis and am at lvl 92. Code is in my sig.

IGN: Annilihator

hhm
05-24-2013, 09:35 PM
Thanks man.

@Thatzme;

Starting stats: 366 att 315 def
Increment per lvl: 10 att 7 def
Final stats: 1056 att 798 def
Total stats: 1854

Conclusion: not as good as flamehunter but better than exo+

A good fire/water armor to get even if nonplus.[/QUOTE]

deathexe
05-24-2013, 10:18 PM
Thanks man.

@Thatzme;

Starting stats: 366 att 315 def
Increment per lvl: 10 att 7 def
Final stats: 1056 att 798 def
Total stats: 1854

Conclusion: not as good as flamehunter but better than exo+

A good fire/water armor to get even if nonplus.[/QUOTE]

I would still consider steam powered+ better than the normal jian's battlegear though. Too little defense on the battle gear to be as useful as it should be.

Bobalisha
05-24-2013, 10:43 PM
Lvl 97 now with max nem. Still 10 spots left. Lvl 75+ pls.

XBB FZP CXD

Trethan
05-25-2013, 02:14 AM
Hi all!

I'm looking for some more Nemesis friends! I'm currently Level 97 with fully levelled Nemesis. If you're 85+ with Nemesis, please friend me and we can help each other out! Thanks a lot!

Code: XBB-QCQ-GFR

Genocide788
05-25-2013, 02:28 AM
Finally got to 15 wins. Thank you guys on my friends list. Wouldn't have made it without you guys, in particular; King, GCSpyder, Selvinn, ISAIAH, Raistmar, Bobalisha, Heapyy and anyone else whom i havent mentioned.
I know its only 15 wins, but against this boss i think that decent for someone using lvl 40 AA+, lvl 32 Cirus+ and lvl 16 AA

Darknight lvl100
05-25-2013, 02:46 AM
I am lvl 107 with this week nem armour. Looking for lvl 90+ with nem armour. My code is XBB-HDG-WFV. Do PM me if i do not reply you as I have more than 50 request on list.

Adagio
05-25-2013, 02:57 AM
Well that puts my hopes up cuz in around that too!!!

Slevinn
05-25-2013, 03:07 AM
I'm wondering what your current progress is fellow knights. I just won stage 35 (loads of hydra's to enhance). Great new rewards gree, keep up the improvement.

Adagio
05-25-2013, 03:43 AM
Lvl 15 so far

Luthienwind
05-25-2013, 04:08 AM
Looking for more allies with Nemesis. PM, I will add u.





In Game: Luthienwind
XBB-PZG-DBV

Foxguy
05-25-2013, 07:26 AM
I'm looking for some more nemesis friends I'm level 76 so please be 60+ with nemesis armor
XBB-VFY-YVX

Slevinn
05-25-2013, 08:04 AM
Finally got to 15 wins. Thank you guys on my friends list. Wouldn't have made it without you guys, in particular; King, GCSpyder, Selvinn, ISAIAH, Raistmar, Bobalisha, Heapyy and anyone else whom i havent mentioned.
I know its only 15 wins, but against this boss i think that decent for someone using lvl 40 AA+, lvl 32 Cirus+ and lvl 16 AA

Good job buddy, keep up the progress. Next goal 21!

Adagio
05-25-2013, 11:20 AM
Can anyone get me the maxed out stats of the water/fire Jian armor? NON PLUS!! Thnx

Sjedwards94
05-25-2013, 12:14 PM
Attack: 1056
Defence: 798
Total: 1894

For future reference, refer to the spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0ArPIArNuLRi7dGVrc1BqV2J1czAzY1AyR1kxSko4VlE&f=true&noheader=true&gid=0&pli=1

Bobalisha
05-25-2013, 02:01 PM
Finally got to 15 wins. Thank you guys on my friends list. Wouldn't have made it without you guys, in particular; King, GCSpyder, Selvinn, ISAIAH, Raistmar, Bobalisha, Heapyy and anyone else whom i havent mentioned.
I know its only 15 wins, but against this boss i think that decent for someone using lvl 40 AA+, lvl 32 Cirus+ and lvl 16 AA

Glad to be of help.

Rediye
05-25-2013, 04:26 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that it is possible to get to 43 without gems. 100+, max AA+ or swamp+, max nemesis x2, 2 friends with max nem, then had to go back with 2 more knights after energy refilled. It's probably easier for those with storm+ instead of AA.

Anyone know if there are lots of energy drops past 43? If not, I doubt I'll go for 60 because I refuse to buy gems.

BethMo
05-25-2013, 05:02 PM
Anyone know if there are lots of energy drops past 43? If not, I doubt I'll go for 60 because I refuse to buy gems.

I was under the impression that the energy drops are random or semi-random. Let's compare notes! I'm up to Jian level 37; I've gotten energy drops at levels 3, 5, 26, 31, 33, and 36.

Kripton
05-25-2013, 05:14 PM
Im at kill 35 with a lvl 70 sky guardiam and 7 nemesis friends.i have 4 days to make 2 kills :) never bought gems,just hard work.and my normal jian is level 35 so its just craft the plus version!!89 on damage ranking at time
Kripton
XBB CWG MMM just level 100+ or guys with rare armor like aegis or kaleidoscopics

Rediye
05-25-2013, 05:27 PM
I was under the impression that the energy drops are random or semi-random. Let's compare notes! I'm up to Jian level 37; I've gotten energy drops at levels 3, 5, 26, 31, 33, and 36.

I was getting a bunch early on before 15, then a few before 35. I always seem to have this same pattern, so I thought it was set. I was hoping they would give more energy drops, but I think they want us to start spending more rather than giving out free DPC keys to those who reach level 60.

Neomagic
05-25-2013, 06:27 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that it is possible to get to 43 without gems. 100+, max AA+ or swamp+, max nemesis x2, 2 friends with max nem, then had to go back with 2 more knights after energy refilled. It's probably easier for those with storm+ instead of AA.

Anyone know if there are lots of energy drops past 43? If not, I doubt I'll go for 60 because I refuse to buy gems.

Wow, I don't know how you did it man. I'm at level 42 right now, but I had to drop 40 gems on Energy to get to this point. But yeah, I doubt I can get to 60 this week because we're only limited to 10 friends a day. I wish they would increase that!

Aradan
05-25-2013, 06:42 PM
energy drops are at set rounds, there is a couple from 43-60, i think 4 or in total. but i doubt thats worth it.

FakeFork
05-25-2013, 08:12 PM
Why is this boss so hard to defeat at LVL15? My nemesis is at 660/640 and when I put it on my main its at 867/847. Can you add me XBB-HGC-PNX? I really want to get the armor and I'm just 1 victory away. I can also help you since I'm level 48 with nemesis.

shukai84
05-26-2013, 03:01 AM
another one more day to completing the + version of the battlegear! :D

Adagio
05-26-2013, 03:47 AM
I had to revive my knights at that lvl!!

alonattias
05-26-2013, 04:36 AM
want to craft the new Fire/Water Twin Jian armor.. i need to win 1 more time but i try to kill him he lvl15 ... i hired 2 kngiht with Nemesis Armor with Extra dmg and i still cant defeat him

Players who strong please add me XBC DNF XBF that i can win..

Ominousz
05-26-2013, 05:12 AM
you guys think there's any chance for a lvl 100 player with maxed Swamps/Inferno/Dark Prince and 10 nemesis friends to reach lvl 60, or say at least lvl 43?

deathexe
05-26-2013, 05:22 AM
you guys think there's any chance for a lvl 100 player with maxed Swamps/Inferno/Dark Prince and 10 nemesis friends to reach lvl 60, or say at least lvl 43?

You probably won't be able to even reach 43, unless you get lucky with the boss missing you a lot and your knights scoring critical hits.

Ominousz
05-26-2013, 05:30 AM
You probably won't be able to even reach 43, unless you get lucky with the boss missing you a lot and your knights scoring critical hits.
Damn, this is annoying :/
i hope they change the boss if that's the case :(

Kripton
05-26-2013, 05:36 AM
U can guys just use shaman and 2 nemesis( 6 energy ) wait 1 hour 4+ 2 gained and use againshaman and 2 nemesis. U wont do more then 3 kills a day.althoung i need 17 more craftables to make my plus set

deathexe
05-26-2013, 05:42 AM
U can guys just use shaman and 2 nemesis( 6 energy ) wait 1 hour 4+ 2 gained and use againshaman and 2 nemesis. U wont do more then 3 kills a day.althoung i need 17 more craftables to make my plus set

Have you managed to test it out on the 43 boss yet?

alonattias
05-26-2013, 05:58 AM
Players who have a max Nemesis please add me add me * XBC DNF XBF *

Nempo
05-26-2013, 06:13 AM
Hi everyone. Hopefully i wont come out rude but i wanted too ask if anyone would want to help me beat the Twin Jian at lvl 15 so i could get my hands on that really good looking armour.

As of now i am a lv 37 warrior named nempo and i am currently at lvl 10 of the boss, so it not that far away but still enough so i cant make it on my own.

So if anyone with a nemesis armour would like to add me i would be both happy and grateful and if anyone that would need my help with anything i am happy too help them too.

So if you want me too add you for me too help you or anyone would like to be added to help me then just send me messege so we can talk about the code.

Sir.
05-26-2013, 06:20 AM
Have you managed to test it out on the 43 boss yet?

If so he wouldn't need 17 more craftables for the plus set sir. ;)

deathexe
05-26-2013, 06:21 AM
If so he wouldn't need 17 more craftables for the plus set sir. ;)

Haha that is very much true XD

Chris_$
05-26-2013, 08:48 AM
I'm up to lvl 38 with no nemesis but I'm lvl 130 ish and have a lot of awesome friends that have nemesis but Idk if I can take boss 43 because Im barely beating the lvl 35+ bosses

alonattias
05-26-2013, 10:31 AM
How can I deafeat the lvl 15 JIAN ?

Adagio
05-26-2013, 12:34 PM
Max out aa+ and crius +. Have Lvl 100+ nemesis armor friends and if you want Jians armor that bad, spend gems on revivie

jamiedmc
05-26-2013, 01:55 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I just now realized that this nemesis armor is actually stronger than any of the big 4 when maxed out! Gonna have to hold on one set of this stuff methinks.. nice to have a strong mono armor in certain instances.

Hindeloop
05-26-2013, 04:31 PM
Can a few high level people prefferably with the nemesis add me for this boss. Need a few more wins for the lvl 28 price, wouldn't mind getting the keys for the chest.

I have AA+ and Hydra+ maxed out already and close to max crius+ armor.
Will try to get my hands on the nemesis for next weeks boss myself.

Zion777
05-26-2013, 04:40 PM
Lvl 53 with Nemesis Armor. Ill have it maxed by tomorrow. Add me if your lvl 50+ or if you have Nemesis also
XBB-QFY-QWG

Piedude
05-26-2013, 05:36 PM
Lvl 10x with nemesis armour looking for 95+ with nem so I can have a proper go at twin Jian

XBB-HVB-RNQ

Have 0 outta 50 friends bonus to so someone make my day haha ;)


Cya in game

Sir.
05-26-2013, 06:36 PM
I was under the impression that the energy drops are random or semi-random. Let's compare notes! I'm up to Jian level 37; I've gotten energy drops at levels 3, 5, 26, 31, 33, and 36.

I got it at lvl 21 too.

Sir.
05-26-2013, 06:39 PM
Lvl 10x with nemesis armour looking for 95+ with nem so I can have a proper go at twin Jian

XBB-HVB-RNQ

Have 0 outta 50 friends bonus to so someone make my day haha ;)


Cya in game

The referral rewards only work with someone who just came out of tutorial, so won't work for lvl 95+. ;)

Genocide788
05-26-2013, 10:26 PM
Hi everyone. Hopefully i wont come out rude but i wanted too ask if anyone would want to help me beat the Twin Jian at lvl 15 so i could get my hands on that really good looking armour.

As of now i am a lv 37 warrior named nempo and i am currently at lvl 10 of the boss, so it not that far away but still enough so i cant make it on my own.

So if anyone with a nemesis armour would like to add me i would be both happy and grateful and if anyone that would need my help with anything i am happy too help them too.

So if you want me too add you for me too help you or anyone would like to be added to help me then just send me messege so we can talk about the code.

You gonna have a tough time buddy, I barely scr@ped past 15 with lvl 40 AA+, and lvl 32 Cirus+ and all Nemesis friends. Don't give up though still got like 3 days and use them tips from the Boss defeating guide thread!

maple1736
05-27-2013, 01:23 AM
Hey, one thing I notice is that lv43 doesnt seem to give me enough to craft the +version!! Could anyone confirm that or its just me for some reason.

Genocide788
05-27-2013, 01:52 AM
Hey, one thing I notice is that lv43 doesnt seem to give me enough to craft the +version!! Could anyone confirm that or its just me for some reason.
I recall some other members occasionally having to go to 44 to get enough materials. 44 should be easier than 43 eitherways. You can always craft the normal version then see how many feathers you lack to craft the + version.

alonattias
05-27-2013, 01:59 AM
What is AA+ ?

deathexe
05-27-2013, 02:01 AM
What is AA+ ?

Atlantean avenger+

alonattias
05-27-2013, 02:24 AM
If i craft AA+ and Circus+ what i get ?

deathexe
05-27-2013, 02:34 AM
If i craft AA+ and Circus+ what i get ?

I'm not sure if you mean fuse or craft. I assume you mean fuse. You can't actually fuse crius and AA together since they have the commo element wind. You can only fuse armors that do not have any elements in common.

alonattias
05-27-2013, 02:37 AM
yes i meant fuse.. thanks

alonattias
05-27-2013, 02:38 AM
How i max out armor.. it is hard you need a lot of enhance armors

deathexe
05-27-2013, 02:46 AM
How i max out armor.. it is hard you need a lot of enhance armors

Start with basics, go on to monos, and then use snakeskin. Make a switch whenever enchancing gets too pricey.

By the way, please ask questions in the questions thread. This isn't the right thread to post questions.

yyace
05-27-2013, 04:34 AM
does anyone know at what boss level he starts dropping 3 mats instead of 2?

deathexe
05-27-2013, 04:52 AM
does anyone know at what boss level he starts dropping 3 mats instead of 2?

Either at 43 or 44, I'm not too sure

zhy
05-27-2013, 08:51 AM
ha might not quit playing :P at boss 41 now, n should be able to take down this one with 8+5 energy, will use 12 gems for 43 n maybe also for 44 (dont remember which one gives u enough mats for the 2nd set)

Vigorous
05-27-2013, 10:44 AM
I've got maxed nem If anyone needs help. I could also use a few more maxed nem friends.


XBB-PVQ-FQZ---- please send pm if you are needing help, otherwise I delete random requests unless they have nemesis.
Ign vigorous

Raistmar
05-27-2013, 10:57 AM
ha might not quit playing :P at boss 41 now, n should be able to take down this one with 8+5 energy, will use 12 gems for 43 n maybe also for 44 (dont remember which one gives u enough mats for the 2nd set)

It's 43. I'm at 42 and need just 1 more mat to craft, just waiting for friend summons so I can use 4 if I have to.

Nick1224
05-27-2013, 11:21 AM
Hello all, Im new to the forums but not knights and dragons! Im a level 74 and my main toon is Nick, i level once or twice a day and I am active everysingle day, this week i have a maxed nemesis! My code is XBB-NMG-FFH! Pm over the forum before adding me so i know to accept you!:)

zhara
05-27-2013, 12:50 PM
hi hi everyone, i'm looking for a few friend with the nemesis ( 3 or 4 i think) powerful enoughtto be able to kill the boss 5 times a day

i'm 83 , with the maxed nemesis :)

XBB-QFX-QWR

thank you :D

Slevinn
05-27-2013, 01:05 PM
Just got to 45 not sure if I'm able to reach 51 without spending gems. Not gonna do that

Rediye
05-27-2013, 01:36 PM
Just got to 45 not sure if I'm able to reach 51 without spending gems. Not gonna do that

I got past 49 without gems (8+5 with max friends and max nem on 2 of my knights). I couldn't do it at 50 so I stopped.