Why buy gold?

[Bravo Zulu]

Why buy any gold with these losses? It's happening for many in my factions as well.

[Dry]

Hapend the same to me ,, not only one time .. Every time

[Roe nick]

Same thing is happening to us. Frustrating to say the least.

[DME]

That's on iOS, correct?

[Roe nick]

That is correct

[Bravo Zulu]

That's on iOS, correct?

On iOS in our faction as well.

[KFH]

Bravo same here just lost 7x to someone 60k below me, not sure why i kept hitting :)

[Bravo Zulu]

Bravo same here just lost 7x to someone 60k below me, not sure why i kept hitting :)

It's crazy right? I mean, I could see skill points making even a 10-15k difference. But at our level 60k? I lost to someone 80k below me? They can't have that many skill points. Ugh. We are all so frustrated!!

[Lawyer]

Lost a fight in which the person was 76,000 in stats below me.... Correction... Lost 4 battles in a row!

Sorry that is more than just a random multiplier problem... That is a coding issue.

[Lawyer]

I cannot justify spending gold when the coding is so bad so that it is just a random crap shoot if you win or lose.

[Bravo Zulu]

I cannot justify spending gold when the coding is so bad so that it is just a random crap shoot if you win or lose.

Agreed. 80k below me was just the worst of my examples. It's a huge buzz killer...

[Muse_boa]

It's just crazy, i also tried the other way around; attack a strong player, doesn't work as well. Best way is to do nothing and you will win. We just did that (not on purpose but because most are asleep) and got best scores ever!

[United Nation of Foxes]

I hope gree refund everyone of all of their gold that has been purchased

[Muse_boa]

I hope gree refund everyone of all of their gold that has been purchased
I don't know if that will cut it. It's an unfair competition. It's more like the bingo sites from tapjoy from which i never received one fake gold bar from

[I am a cow]

This is bull I can only hit 1 player and I've lost most of the time with 50k less def than my atk

[ProudClown]

We are having the same problem! Also, we are seeing a lot of opponents disappear from the opponents list during battle! Joes army just lost 14 players during battle? What's up with that?!

[howareyouboy]

the effect of skill points will increase with increasing your level, i.e.,

The atta/def= Lv x skill point x army atta/def,

This is why you get good chance to lose to somebody who seems much weaker than you.

[Brahmin]

! Joes army just lost 14 players during battle? What's up with that?!

Guess they STILL haven' t learned their lesson.

[Bravo Zulu]

the effect of skill points will increase with increasing your level, i.e.,

The atta/def= Lv x skill point x army atta/def,

This is why you get good chance to lose to somebody who seems much weaker than you.

This is noted. However, someone my same level to have enough skill points to cover an 80k gap? No. That is what I noted in my first post. Even if they have no energy and no stamina the math does not work. The only missing variable in the equation is skill points.

Also of note, this is the first war in which this has happened. If it were common in the algorithm this would be a common occurrence. It is not. As the matter of fact, it has never happened to me before today, and now four times in a day. The stats say this is more than a chance occurrence.

How does one manage to get enough skill points to bridge an 80k gap?

[Brahmin]

There's no way skill points can explain large gaps like that if they work anything like the way they've been described on the forum. The only legit way I see to explain it based on what we know is that the final, random "unknown factor," after stats, and skill points play their part; the roll of the dice, if you will, must vary by an extremely large margin, 50%-75% if not more. Which does seem a bit ridiculous to me. One would think it would be something like 15%-20%.

[Bravo Zulu]

There's no way skill points can explain large gaps like that if they work anything like the way they've been described on the forum. The only legit way I see to explain it based on what we know is that the final, random "unknown factor," after stats, and skill points play their part; the roll of the dice, if you will, must vary by an extremely large margin, 50%-75% if not more. Which does seem a bit ridiculous to me. One would think it would be something like 15%-20%.

It doesn't make sense. I can hit the same person four times, and win 3/4 with the same stats showing. They have the same skill point presumably- those aren't changing in minutes enough to close an 80k gap.

Someone in my faction got a reply that said the issue was a display bug and the rival profile isn't displaying correctly, but the rival win is legit. Again, if I can win 3/4 across such a large gap, that can't hold true either.

[2nd dan]

Explain this one http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e310/zimjason_1/2D3BC2B3-B98D-4B15-8163-3D7E79E08786-3309-000003BCCDDBF7A5_zpsb6bda8fb.jpg

[Jarconis]

Haha that's bad

[Dutchie]

It doesn't make sense. I can hit the same person four times, and win 3/4 with the same stats showing. They have the same skill point presumably- those aren't changing in minutes enough to close an 80k gap.Someone in my faction got a reply that said the issue was a display bug and the rival profile isn't displaying correctly, but the rival win is legit. Again, if I can win 3/4 across such a large gap, that can't hold true either.

GREE are the masters of obfuscation. As Laywer said earlier... It has now become a crap shoot.

GREE's spaghetti code has got so many loops and twists, even they can't make head or tail of it anymore and are pushing out fixes on a wing and a prayer, but all it does is make it even worse.

[Bravo Zulu]

Explain this one http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e310/zimjason_1/2D3BC2B3-B98D-4B15-8163-3D7E79E08786-3309-000003BCCDDBF7A5_zpsb6bda8fb.jpg

HOLY CR**. yeah, who can explain that one????

[Jman]

Also of note, this is the first war in which this has happened. If it were common in the algorithm this would be a common occurrence. It is not. As the matter of fact, it has never happened to me before today, and now four times in a day. The stats say this is more than a chance occurrence.
This has been happening to me and members of my faction since Ireland. Looks like you are one of the lucky ones.

[Jman]

Explain this one http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e310/zimjason_1/2D3BC2B3-B98D-4B15-8163-3D7E79E08786-3309-000003BCCDDBF7A5_zpsb6bda8fb.jpg
Read the hint! :p

[Preview of What's Coming]

Only idiots buy gold.

[StickShift]

GREE just emailed me telling me, its my boosted stats vs opponents PARTIALLY unboosted stats. Why would you bring partial army to a fight? That blows my mind

[StickShift]

Wow that is way too crazy.

[Jhenry02]

It's been that way for me since this all started.
I bought my 40% off gold. But can't spend it and won't buy more until I know what I can attack and win.

[Q Raider]

Explain this one http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e310/zimjason_1/2D3BC2B3-B98D-4B15-8163-3D7E79E08786-3309-000003BCCDDBF7A5_zpsb6bda8fb.jpg

24 Lead Soldiers and only level 137 are the only clues I need to identify they "type" of opponent there......

[Bravo Zulu]

24 Lead Soldiers and only level 137 are the only clues I need to identify they "type" of opponent there.......

You know, I'm not great at spotting "those types" but for me, that "type" was all I could think of for the skill points issue. I'm glad you pointed out the other. I will be looking out. Hmmm. :)

[Wave]

You need to get stronger. It's on the bottom. Lol. I bet that hacker is having fun. I hope you reported the player

[2nd dan]

Yes I get a daily message now saying I quote haha sucker in still here! Tho I do enjoy raiding his building every day now :)

[The Mole]

Hint: You're not strong enough! Better buy some more units. My good gracious Gree, you have a way of turning a phrase to make it all better. Can somebody kiss my honey poo-poo?

[Azrael']

Why buy any gold with these losses? It's happening for many in my factions as well.

I lost to you miss bravo Zulu & asked myself the same question... yes my stats are 200K+ yours, but from what I've learned from gree it a hidden multiplicative... yea I know i'd post my ticket replies but this thread would be locked & i'd be banned also I've heard of ppl losing by a million...

[Maestro]

Last battle I had under a 5% loss rate if my attack was 30% higher then my opponents defense. This battle a 20%loss rate if my attack was only 30% higher then my opponent.

[119276513]

It is very sad the same situation happens a lot recently