Fight mechanic Broken worse than ever!

[Poopenshire]

I just lost 3 in a row to someone less than half def to my attack!


GREE FIX THE MECHANICS.

[mwmark]

It's not the mechanics, the defense you are seeing on them is significantly lower than their actual defense, mine is about 100k lower than what shows.

[Web323]

No kidding, we get matched with Ferr. Then I magically win three straight against someone more than double my stats.

[Ssne]

It's not the mechanics, the defense you are seeing on them is significantly lower than their actual defense, mine is about 100k lower than what shows.

Either way - actually broken or deceptively broken = BROKEN. Come on Gree!

[Web323]

Regen times are screwed up as well

[Poopenshire]

If def is even lower then I am even more so upset. i was 350K more att than their Def. if their def is inflated than the differance is much greater and this needs fixed.

[Web323]

what do you mean? in a good way or bad way lol

I should have a regen of less than 10 minutes and it is over 16 minutes right now.

[Muse_boa]

Either way - actually broken or deceptively broken = BROKEN. Come on Gree!

Same here, lost from player with 15 k def lower (level 72)

[ohgreatitsryan]

Also, I think partially due to the crazy attack/defense swings, WD point values are swinging wildly

[Domino_brown]

Agreed , something is definitely broken....

[Infamous They]

It has become more than apparent to me that GREE has a lot of people pushing buttons that don't know what they are doing.

[SevenO9]

Agreed. 300k losing against 170k just seems ways off ...

[kygiacomo]

Agreed , something is definitely broken.... its like this ever war..gree cant do nothing but screw things up..i lost 2 to a guy wit 80k def when my attack was 193k..come on greee can u do anything besdies screw up or what...the money has really destoryed ur heads..im gonna apply to apple and get a charge back and get my gold $ i spent back...so if they wanna cheat me i will cheat them...gonna go on and buy the coal mine and biodome b4 i do the charge back to so they cant erease my gold once i get my money back from gree..so 2 can play this game gree..and CJ is a sad excuse for a developer..i see why u got hired at gree ..i guess screwups hang together

[ohwhatafinish]

It's bad and I don't think GREE realises that will seriously affect the amount of gold spent. Who is going to refill when you win 1 out 4 with stats 100k higher than your opponent. Not me

[Infamous They]

G.R.E.E if you make one up, you will feel better. Mine is "Gee Really? Excuse Excuse"

[Peppers]

STUPID STUPID STUPID.

I must be stupid.

Obviously this MUST be due to skill points, right? It has to be my fault. Right?

The game couldn't be broken or anything... It must be skill points.

Why else would we all be losing to people who's defense is 2/3 or even half our attack...

[Poopenshire]

A teammate just lost with a 700k point difference....... Yeah tell me thats supposed to happen.

I just lost again with 300k points more than the other person.........

869k to 550K?????? Lets hear the excuse!

[Muse_boa]

A teammate just lost with a 700k point difference....... Yeah tell me thats supposed to happen.

I just lost again with 300k points more than the other person.........

869k to 550K?????? Lets hear the excuse!
This is really no fun at all, you have a strategy and then it's worth nothing

[Ssne]

Great news is the new strategy might be - don't attack, just defend. That is a really inexpensive strategy.

[The Mole]

You were told this would happen.
Heck, if you've been around a couple months, you've seen it happen.
Yet, you persist in this folly.
Good, I for one, hope Gree cleans you out!

[Peppers]

It is a complete waste of gold to play.

Its even a waste of free hits... although you don't get xp if you lose, right?

[Poopenshire]

I haven't spent 1 bar. and won't till this is fixed..... This is the death of MW. mark my words.

[Infamous They]

You were told this would happen.
Heck, if you've been around a couple months, you've seen it happen.
Yet, you persist in this folly.
Good, I for one, hope Gree cleans you out!

Way to early to be drunk already

[senex morosus]

This a joke. How long have they had this problem? They still haven't sorted it out but just can't wait for more events for us to spend.

[ladyfizz27]

Absolutely pathetic, you knew about this since the battle for Ireland. Why is it not sorted? I do not believe this is down to skill points, like support keeps telling us. SORT IT OUT

[Muse_boa]

Maybe we are supposed to play this the other way around, find a player twice your stats and then attack

[Infamous They]

Heck I am a ML player with a faction of one (camping) just to get the door prize. Maybe I should jump in and score some points. Sounds like I might be able too!

[Rowdydowdy]

Same same game.

[Domino_brown]

I am such a sucker , still playing this broken game! Maybe apple support will agree paying for a broken product isn't right ...

[BostonHammer]

lost (2 out of 4 attacks) to someone with a def 1/10th of my attack per the battle screen. this will be the end of my playing if this is not fixed. what's the point?

[Minotaur]

yea..this is BS.....more than 30k and still lost...back to back at that.

[BADMARKX]

A lot of factions outside top 100 got top 10 factions in the first draw.
Finding a target on these guys is tough enough, but when you do and still lose to a weaker player...
Mahn oh mahn

[Hooligany]

This is bad.. Very bad. More than 1/4 faction members are all reporting losses on opponents weaker by 10-50k stats. Why will spending gold be worth it? What r stats for?

[BADMARKX]

Currently 34-18 with my gold player on what should be some solid targets.
I'm pretty sure those losses are all my attacks.
This sux

[NaRciS]

This is interesting...

I so far haven't beaten anyone in the wd event event with over 89,000 defence my attack is 140,000 I just had another 3 loses in a row with someone at 92k defence, I then switch to my attack list and find someone with 105,000 I win 9 out of 10...

Anyway its just the same thing i keep saying, half my factions rival list still is completely different to the rest.

[Jhenry02]

3 losses in a row
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x105/JasonHenry2002/null_zpsee2525d7.jpg

[Web323]

Just had a 300k difference and I lost.

[kygiacomo]

STUPID STUPID STUPID.

I must be stupid.

Obviously this MUST be due to skill points, right? It has to be my fault. Right?

The game couldn't be broken or anything... It must be skill points.

Why else would we all be losing to people who's defense is 2/3 or even half our attack... i dont buy that skill point sh it..i have 300.300 on skilll points still lose to ppl 100k lower me so when they say skill points tahts jsut another way to put us off from complaints...im done buying gold for wars..i will use my gold on LTQ and gain more stats..play the war for free..at least i know i will get my units on the LTQ and not lose when i should win..gree is f ups

[kygiacomo]

This is interesting...

I so far haven't beaten anyone in the wd event event with over 89,000 defence my attack is 140,000 I just had another 3 loses in a row with someone at 92k defence, I then switch to my attack list and find someone with 105,000 I win 9 out of 10...

Anyway its just the same thing i keep saying, half my factions rival list still is completely different to the rest. ya u win on the rival page but the Wd u dont ...its another tacket to buy more gold from greedy..i just play the war for free and use my gold on LTQ and make myself stronger..gain more stats there anyways then u do from the war...unless u are in top 3 teams then u get 20% air attack bonus 20% this and that...next gonna be for top 123 50% attack..so f it

[fuzzlenutz]

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A teammate just lost with a 700k point difference....... Yeah tell me thats supposed to happen.

I just lost again with 300k points more than the other person.........

869k to 550K?????? Lets hear the excuse!

[rar]

ya u win on the rival page but the Wd u dont ...its another tacket to buy more gold from greedy..i just play the war for free and use my gold on LTQ and make myself stronger..gain more stats there anyways then u do from the war...unless u are in top 3 teams then u get 20% air attack bonus 20% this and that...next gonna be for top 123 50% attack..so f it.

I can tell you that if it's a trick from Gree d, it won't work on me. I just lost to someone over 51k less than my attack. No point in spending any gold if you can't win, right?

[People's Front of Judea G]

Lost 5 attacks out of 9 to someone with 200k less d than my a. How is that the result of incorrect displayed defence stats? Either you win them all or lose them all, but to win some, lose some? It's a bug gree, you fouled up the attack algorithm. Please be decent enough to admit it rather than call us idiots and think we are stupid for not agreeing its all just stats display problems. You insult us. Not a good idea as we take our money elsewhere as a result

[KFH]

My whole faction is losing to people well under their stats, far more than before this war started.

[sdmosch]

I only have a 100K attack and I am loosing to people with 60k def. How is my attack dropping down to 50k and theirs going all the way up to 70 and 80K.....This will be the last time I buy any freaking gold, only did it this time cause it was soo cheap. FIX THIS

[NaRciS]

Even more surprising...

We are taking big loses but my team has got bigger again and i have all 34 fighting so our points are up around 18% however we have never been on the outside of the top 500 at this stage in any of the last 4 events which is when we started...

We have a lot more points have run constant battles so far, good results and in 4 hours done nearly 100,000 points and were outside the top 500 really... really?

No matter what this forum says the points grow by huge amounts in each event, are teams really spending that much more on gold? I would guess the top teams have someone in this forum, I see a lot of people cutting back but points shooting up... something isn't right... and normally I would have brought at least a vault and with 40% off..... well not this time.

whats the point....

[rar]

I know what you are saying, at this time of the war we normally are flirting with the top 100. Not this time, we are just out of top 250. I have android users who are not having the loss problems. Does anyone know if it is just an Apple thing? The second team we fought, bandit assassins, were not even in the top 800 on the last war. After we lost to them, their point put them well in the top 100. Can a new faction get that powerful in a short period of time? They were all strong players.


Even more surprising...

We are taking big loses but my team has got bigger again and i have all 34 fighting so our points are up around 18% however we have never been on the outside of the top 500 at this stage in any of the last 4 events which is when we started...

We have a lot more points have run constant battles so far, good results and in 4 hours done nearly 100,000 points and were outside the top 500 really... really?

No matter what this forum says the points grow by huge amounts in each event, are teams really spending that much more on gold? I would guess the top teams have someone in this forum, I see a lot of people cutting back but points shooting up... something isn't right... and normally I would have brought at least a vault and with 40% off..... well not this time.

whats the point....

[People's Front of Judea G]

Both android and iOS in our faction are losing to opponents with less than 50% of their stats.

[Olympus]

Level 50 and just beat level 201 with a defense of 5100. This is great for low and mid level!

[BADMARKX]

I know we are focusing on the losses, but have you guys noticed a change to wall damage, yet again.
I've gone from 3500/wall hit to 2500...

[friartuck11]

Why do you idiots keep referencing point gaps? It's about percentages. When the stats are higher the swing is larger too because bonuses, etc are all about percentages. "I am 50k higher than he was" means nothing. 50k when you're at 500k is a lot smaller percentage than if you were at 100k. Plan on 30-40% swings in either direction from both players and it will be reasonable... I've never lost a fight and thought it wasn't reasonable..

[NaRciS]

I know what you are saying, at this time of the war we normally are flirting with the top 100. Not this time, we are just out of top 250. I have android users who are not having the loss problems. Does anyone know if it is just an Apple thing? The second team we fought, bandit assassins, were not even in the top 800 on the last war. After we lost to them, their point put them well in the top 100. Can a new faction get that powerful in a short period of time? They were all strong players.

I am looking up every team that is crucifying us, we beat nearly all in the last war, plus i have a note of some of there past dl stats from our battle spreadsheet the current teams dl has gone from 115k to over 400k in a couple of weeks, they have done well ?

[People's Front of Judea G]

How about losing fights to opponents that are 35% of your stats then, with a difference of 350 k?? Happens to me with monotonous regularity. It's a bug and it needs to be fixed.

[KFH]

we seem to be in the same place we are each war, but i have noticed teams that we use to beat become super teams. We did fight the team Rar mentioned but i could find them on the winners list for any of the other wars.

[KFH]

If the points randomly swing both ways (lol) then this game takes even less skill than i previously thought. each time you attack its a gamble

[CJ D]

We've come up against two teams that I had to look up. Neither even showed up from Ireland. Crazy. And yup. Got beat like a drum. Lol

[friartuck11]

How about losing fights to opponents that are 35% of your stats then, with a difference of 350 k?? Happens to me with monotonous regularity. It's a bug and it needs to be fixed.

35% is not enough to guarantee a win... Remember the 30%+ swing goes both directions...

[rar]

Now you want me to do math? Ok, loosing to someone that has a defense that is just under 60% of my attack?
That's never happened to me before.



Why do you idiots keep referencing point gaps? It's about percentages. When the stats are higher the swing is larger too because bonuses, etc are all about percentages. "I am 50k higher than he was" means nothing. 50k when you're at 500k is a lot smaller percentage than if you were at 100k. Plan on 30-40% swings in either direction from both players and it will be reasonable... I've never lost a fight and thought it wasn't reasonable..

[DME]

Now you want me to do math? Ok, loosing to someone that has a defense that is just under 60% of my attack?
That's never happened to me before.

Don't forget that the defence that you're going by is their base defence with none of the bonuses they may have factored in.

[NaRciS]

35% is not enough to guarantee a win... Remember the 30%+ swing goes both directions...

I think the point is your right and sometimes i have seen loses with a 50% plus swing rate but 140k attack to 80k def 4 or 5 times in a row and as we have had more battles i continue to lose most of my battles... theres something wrong...

[Golf4life]

70k differential loss. their defense 220, mine offense 290. little off there

[Muse_boa]

70k differential loss. their defense 220, mine offense 290. little off there
Yes! Is it time to get on board?

[soulnmysole]

Coming from somebody who has never competed in any of the WD events, I'd be lying if I said it doesn't tickle me to see everybody in here complaining.. lol sorry

[ptong]

can't upload picture but took a scrn shot of rival factions with some of their members showing 0 allies and no name listed.

[Muse_boa]

Yes! Is it time to get on board?
You should now, you can reach for the stars

[Muse_boa]

Coming from somebody who has never competed in any of the WD events, I'd be lying if I said it doesn't tickle me to see everybody in here complaining.. lol sorry
Sorry, i took my own quote, this is the one i was replying to

[NaRciS]

can't upload picture but took a scrn shot of rival factions with some of their members showing 0 allies and no name listed.

here i just uploaded...

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[sdmosch]

Wow, I just lost to three guys from my old faction that were at least 40% lower than me.....my attack dropped and their defense jumped. I only left the faction a week ago, I know that one of them was a sweet unicorn@#%!

[Col.Jessup]

Greed does not care. They have known about this issue for over a month and still nothing has been done. I have seen worthless updates for the Android and iPhone 5. I have sent in countless tickets with screenshots and I don't get any response except for the generic "this issue has been closed or resolved blah,blah,blah". The customer service at Greed is impeccable (sarcasm) because they wouldn't know if an issue had been resolved if it was standing right in front of them. Maybe start hiring people that know more than how to turn a computer on would be a start. Every event, every WD is nothing but a cluster (insert word here). Or WAIT!!!!! Maybe Beta test before putting junk on the servers, and then twiddling your thumbs hoping it works, knowing damn well it never does. Then spending countless hours on the Internet hoping that there is an instruction manual online that can help you correct the issue because you don't know how to. I am sure the money is still rolling in, but this is just the start, as many more issues are on the horizon that the money trickles in slower and slower, and in the end of it all, this company will go from GREE to GR, because they won't have enough money to even buy a vowel. Simple solution: Stop spending money.

[Bosc]

Turn out the lights....... the party's over! ..... can anyone say "jumped the shark"..... boy are we ever stupid to keep trying.... lol

[Lawyer]

This is happening far too often to a vast number of people to be a statistical anomaly. This is a coding error plain and simple.

This reminds me of when I was in a LLP faction and we complained about our matchups and the initial response we got was... Oh everyone gets a bad match up from time to time.... 8 bad match ups and massive complaining we got the whoops you were right... We reset it for you .

[Col.Jessup]

Well, it was fun while it lasted. LOL

[People's Front of Judea G]

DME. I'm sure you work for gree. You display the classic symptoms - an inability to read the posts and an inability to understand the problem. I am losing to people that are less than 35% of my stats. Now lets do your maths that you keep spouting about. Add 1/3 to their score.... Hmmmm that means they are still less than half my score. Now take 1/3 off my score - that's still a comfortable win for me in anyone's calculator except Gree's. Now stop spouting your rubbish and listen to what people are telling you. This is a bug pure and simple.

[Col.Jessup]

Don't forget that the defence that you're going by is their base defence with none of the bonuses they may have factored in.

Hmmmm...... these must be defensive boosts of the almighty when i have lost to people anywhere from 100-200k less defense than my attack. My boost buildings are level 5 or higher, my composites factory is lvl 10, my bonuses both faction and personal are not weak, and my attack skill points are over 150. So please tell me Obi Wan, where do we get these magical defensive boosts of the weak?

[sraghav42]

I have 70k attack and power attacked a 75k player and I lost WTF....

[DME]

DME. I'm sure you work for gree. You display the classic symptoms - an inability to read the posts and an inability to understand the problem.

I wish I did. Getting paid to do (seemingly) very little sounds like an awesome job to me.

I'm just throwing things out there that some people aren't taking into consideration. Obviously some of these outcomes can't be explained by the stuff I've mentioned, as the differences are just too great, but there are a number of them that clearly do fall within those boundaries.

Maybe they've put in a fatigue variable?

[SpikeyKit]

Deadly bridge jumper dont seem to be in the stats
Suffering random battle losses 50% of my attack and i lost.. Sure once or twice but way too often taking out my valiur units too

[SpikeyKit]

Looking at my total bonuses i see
Health regen +1%

Looking at individual i see
Deadly bridge jumper 20%

And alliance bonuses
Health regen 25%

So i should almost have a 45% reduction in health regen. Please fix this

[BigD@wg]

This is just stupidity at its best. There is no way that I should ever lose to someone with half my stats! It's not skill points and it isn't boosts. FIX THIS Gree!