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captiva
05-16-2013, 07:13 AM
How much real money are required to purchase enough gold to be in TOP 10.

Anyone can advise, how about top 1, 2 and 3?

bald zeemer
05-16-2013, 07:24 AM
If you have to ask you can't afford it.

Or is that yachts? I always get the two confused.

captiva
05-16-2013, 07:26 AM
If you have to ask you can't afford it.

Or is that yachts? I always get the two confused.

Well, I am currently doing budgeting trying to go for the top 10.

Need your assistance.

Butt Futter
05-16-2013, 07:27 AM
Depends on the syndicate and how much you want to spend.

lucky83
05-16-2013, 07:28 AM
If it only was that easy. First you have to get proper stats for it, and that's impossible to say that you'll need x and y godl for it. As for how much a top ten spot if you have proper stats for it will cost, try taking the total amount of points the team earened and split it in 60. Presto, now you got a number, even though it's far from the truth. Some spend less, some spend more, that's the truth of the day.

captiva
05-16-2013, 07:29 AM
Hmm... Averagely how much does the top team spend to achieve their top 10 position?

Butt Futter
05-16-2013, 07:31 AM
If you join a top 10 syndicate expect to drop 3 vaults at a minimum. Again, all syndicates have different expectations and desires.

bald zeemer
05-16-2013, 07:31 AM
If you're doing the accounting then crunch the numbers. The point totals get posted after every war.

captiva
05-16-2013, 07:34 AM
Kindly kind soul can advice me to the figures?

TRAZ
05-16-2013, 07:34 AM
Top 10.....5-10 vaults easy per player.

bald zeemer
05-16-2013, 07:35 AM
Kindly kind soul can advice me to the figures?
It's literally 2 threads above this one. If you aren't going to put in that level of effort for research, I very much doubt your issue will be lack of gold.

captiva
05-16-2013, 07:41 AM
It's literally 2 threads above this one. If you aren't going to put in that level of effort for research, I very much doubt your issue will be lack of gold.

So how much you spent per battle?

Butt Futter
05-16-2013, 07:42 AM
lolz


You're asking a FC member with stats that put him in the top 10 overall players.

lolz

lucky83
05-16-2013, 07:42 AM
If it only was that easy. First you have to get proper stats for it, and that's impossible to say that you'll need x and y godl for it. As for how much a top ten spot if you have proper stats for it will cost, try taking the total amount of points the team earened and split it in 60. Presto, now you got a number, even though it's far from the truth. Some spend less, some spend more, that's the truth of the day.

Was i being unclear? Or are you only too lazy to get your calculations right? :rolleyes:

Tommy Two Toes
05-16-2013, 07:48 AM
If you have to ask you can't afford it.

My buddy called the new Gold's Gym in his town, and asked the monthly rate for a membership, then the dude dropped this cliche on him.

It's a membership to a gym--not some secret society where you hunt humans for sport on the weekend, pal.

scott(ST6)
05-16-2013, 07:48 AM
So how much you spent per battle?

I spend about 250k every battle. hope that helps

bald zeemer
05-16-2013, 07:53 AM
So how much you spent per battle?

Lets put it this way: I have a fairly decent stock of gold on hand - for example if I feel like upgrading my stats by 40k to hit an arbitrary round number, I can, and not have it affect my ability to do anything else I may wish to do.

Before battle I contact my credit card company and itunes to inform them that what they are about to see isn't a case of my account being hacked/stolen/etc, and to not put holds on either.

Get the gist?

captiva
05-16-2013, 08:05 AM
Lets put it this way: I have a fairly decent stock of gold on hand - for example if I feel like upgrading my stats by 40k to hit an arbitrary round number, I can, and not have it affect my ability to do anything else I may wish to do.

Before battle I contact my credit card company and itunes to inform them that what they are about to see isn't a case of my account being hacked/stolen/etc, and to not put holds on either.

Get the gist?

Bottomline? What's your magical number? :)

bald zeemer
05-16-2013, 08:11 AM
I don't count.
Results are the only numbers I look at.

If you want top 10, then spend enough gold that you've got more IP than number 11. It's that simple. (well, and recruit a viable team, get proper comms processes, etc etc etc...)

captiva
05-16-2013, 08:14 AM
I don't count.
Results are the only numbers I look at.

If you want top 10, then spend enough gold that you've got more IP than number 11. It's that simple. (well, and recruit a viable team, get proper comms processes, etc etc etc...)

Although you don't count but roughly how much? Com'on....you in FC no1 team, how much you spent by paying your bills? Don't you recall?

crash&burn
05-16-2013, 08:15 AM
bottom line dude is A LOT.....figure out...did you not finish Elementary School...its simple math he has 11000 wins......you would have to spend tens of thousands.

captiva
05-16-2013, 08:17 AM
bottom line dude is A LOT.....figure out...did you not finish Elementary School...its simple math he has 11000 wins......you would have to spend tens of thousands.

I am just asking a simple question and you guys are avoiding the answer. :)

I want to hear from the horses mouth.

crash&burn
05-16-2013, 08:24 AM
boring thread

captiva
05-16-2013, 08:27 AM
Haha...by answering the question will definitely make the thread interesting.

Isn't?

Sir_Krauser
05-16-2013, 08:32 AM
Troll is successful.

Yahkin
05-16-2013, 08:39 AM
Haha...by answering the question will definitely make the thread interesting.

Isn't?

Poor people and rich people think about money differently.

captiva
05-16-2013, 08:40 AM
Poor people and rich people think about money differently.
That's not the answer to the question. :)

TRAZ
05-16-2013, 08:42 AM
Your question was answered, many times over by different players.

captiva
05-16-2013, 08:47 AM
Your question was answered, many times over by different players.

Answered not by beating around the bush, the real answer is by giving and absolute amount.

TRAZ
05-16-2013, 09:10 AM
Plainly answered. Top 10.....5-10 vaults easy per player. No beating around the bush.

panty sniffer
05-16-2013, 09:13 AM
Entire syndicate combined gold costs thousands real life $ for anywhere near top 10. Ball park figure for ya.


Answered not by beating around the bush, the real answer is by giving and absolute amount.

There is no absolute amount. It varies depending on syndicate bonuses, # of members iin your syn, how active everyone is, what their stats are, if you're in the gold program, how much your competition is spending, how active competition is in the particular war, which rival syn's you are put up against... list goes on.

Again, ball park figure is in the thousands if not tens of thousands for top 10. The difference from #1 to #10 alone is in the thousnds of $ spent on gold.

DoubleBarrelMob
05-16-2013, 09:32 AM
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panty sniffer
05-16-2013, 09:33 AM
200+ vaults. Budget that.

Assuming the vast majority of his syndicate sports well over 50K attack and there are several 100k+.

All the gold in the world will still have your syn struggling for top 100 if nobody can attack.

zwiswoo
05-16-2013, 09:53 AM
Okay, I was trying to figure this out recently myself, and I think it's quite expensive. Haven't fought in any event yet, so everything cum grano salis please.

1. First see how many points total you'd need to win in battles in a group. Basically take the group's total IP (you can get numbers for 1-3,10,25 etc) and divide by ~60. That's what the average member pulls, though a group may expect either more or less than that from a new member. Probably for a top 10 group you need to provide at least 200-250k points. Probably top 25 is more like 125k or 150k. In any case I think if you approach a group they'll give you some indication what's expected.

2. Hits. Depending on your stats and level, you gain between 200 and 400 points per hit. No doubt you can do less or more if your stats are very unusual. But I'd guess ~300 points per hit is normal.

3. Refills. Each health refill gives you four hits. So depending on 2, a refill buys you 800-1600 points, say 1200. I think it costs 25 gold. I also think about 30k points you can make for free just with the ordinary health regen.

So suppose you want top 10, and that means you need to give 225k points. That means 200k points using gold, or 170 refills or three vaults to skirt the edges of top 10. Probably the edges of top 25 are in the range of slightly more than a vault. Scale up and down appropriately depending on your stats...

lesnar
05-16-2013, 10:25 AM
It costs exactly $3,267.67 to finish in top 10.

ScratchFace
05-16-2013, 10:55 AM
Just makes me glad to be a free player. LoL!

TZora
05-16-2013, 11:38 AM
That's not the answer to the question. :)
how much do u earn from your job?

may be the question doesn't offend u but in some countries that's an offending question. it is very generous of bal to not reply back with a nasty reply.

spend the best u can in one syndicate war and then figure where u stand. and that is the answer to ur question.

GQNammmer
05-16-2013, 02:09 PM
Short answer:

If a syndicate had 100% efficiency during the war, meaning:

1. Max syndicate upgrades
2. All 60 members online during wars
3. All 60 members fitting in 6 free attacks each war
4. Participate in every single war possible within the 72 hour period (no sleep for anyone!)
5. No members lose one single attack

For market plaza, you would've had to spend a minimum of 132 vaults.

For packer heights, the minimum is 110 vaults + change

All variables must be met to achieve minimum expenditure. We all know what the likelihood of that is :rolleyes:

BigMoney
05-16-2013, 02:24 PM
You're not going to get all 6 free attacks when you're using that many gold hits.

GQNammmer
05-16-2013, 02:28 PM
You're not going to get all 6 free attacks when you're using that many gold hits.

Alright. Changed that variable to 4 free hits per battle assuming you wait to regenerate energy between battles.

New min vault expenditure for market plaza and packer heights is 156 and 134+change, respectively :)

BigMoney
05-16-2013, 02:33 PM
Did you factor in the 1 hour 40 minutes health recovery time when accounting for how many battles someone could participate in, or did you assume they would spend 25 gold to refill their health at the start of the next battle?

scott(ST6)
05-16-2013, 02:41 PM
did you account for leveling up 0 to 17 times during battle?

cooch
05-16-2013, 03:11 PM
If you have to ask you can't afford it.

Or is that yachts? I always get the two confused.

No the example is being asked to join Augusta. When asked to join some exec or washington politico asked the question. The folks doing the inviting got up and left.

cooch
05-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Your question was answered, many times over by different players.

Guy's a troll...and the bait was taken...revealing how the "spend interruption" is not a big deal at all.

GQNammmer
05-16-2013, 04:13 PM
Did you factor in the 1 hour 40 minutes health recovery time when accounting for how many battles someone could participate in, or did you assume they would spend 25 gold to refill their health at the start of the next battle?

I used 90 min actually. I did throw in an arbitrary average number of points per attack of 350. I also forgot to factor in how many points you get for attack the wall. Let's start over lol

Variables:
# of syndicate members: 60
# of battles: ((72 hours*60min)/100) = 43 battles
# of wall hits per battle: 18
Avg points per wall hit: 80
# of hits per battle: (60members*4) = 240 - 18 wall hits = 222
Avg points per win: 350

Total free points per battle: (18 wall hits * 80) + (222*350) = 79140
Total free points per war: 79140 * 43 battles = 3,403,020

10th place market plaza and packer heights: 16,581,128 and 14750141
Point differential market plaza: 16581128 - 3,403,020 = 13,178,108
Point differential packer heights: 14,750,141 - 3,403,020 = 11,347,121

Points per vault: (1500 gold/25 gold per refill)*4 hits per refill*350 points per hit = 84,000
Min. vaults needed for market plaza: 13,178,108/84,000 = 156.88
Min. vaults needed for packer heights: 11,347,121/84000 = 135.08

This is just a rough estimate as some of the variables will differ

Swedevil
05-16-2013, 04:23 PM
I used 90 min actually. I did throw in an arbitrary average number of points per attack of 350. I also forgot to factor in how many points you get for attack the wall. Let's start over lol

Variables:
# of syndicate members: 60
# of battles: ((72 hours*60min)/100) = 43 battles
# of wall hits per battle: 18
Avg points per wall hit: 80
# of hits per battle: (60members*4) = 240 - 18 wall hits = 222
Avg points per win: 350

Total free points per battle: (18 wall hits * 80) + (222*350) = 79140
Total free points per war: 79140 * 43 battles = 3,403,020

10th place market plaza and packer heights: 16,581,128 and 14750141
Point differential market plaza: 16581128 - 3,403,020 = 13,178,108
Point differential packer heights: 14,750,141 - 3,403,020 = 11,347,121

Points per vault: (1500 gold/25 gold per refill)*4 hits per refill*350 points per hit = 84,000
Min. vaults needed for market plaza: 13,178,108/84,000 = 156.88
Min. vaults needed for packer heights: 11,347,121/84000 = 135.08

This is just a rough estimate as some of the variables will differ

Include that fact that (unless our syndicate was the only one with this problem) you were only getting 3 hits per refill and not 4... but that maths looks about right.

BigMoney
05-16-2013, 04:35 PM
Include that fact that (unless our syndicate was the only one with this problem) you were only getting 3 hits per refill and not 4... but that maths looks about right.

If you only got 3 hits per 25 gold, something was seriously wrong.

Swedevil
05-16-2013, 04:36 PM
If you only got 3 hits per 25 gold, something was seriously wrong.

That's why tickets were submitted. I wasn't the only one.

Lawyer
05-16-2013, 04:49 PM
My syndicate operates with both individual purchases and a money pool... What I can tell you ( without divulging too much of our inner workings ) is the total vaults purchased by 60 players last battle was over 700+ during the 20% sale ....

honeybadger14
05-16-2013, 04:54 PM
That's why tickets were submitted. I wasn't the only one.

I filed a ticket. They response was unsatisfactory (no refund).

Also just roughly...1 million points = 10 vaults. Given the bonus program those are likely half price vaults.

15mil = 150 vaults = top 10