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Bala82
05-10-2013, 12:09 PM
I am trying doing this in one topic,

Requirements
The LTQ event will show up in your Goals, and will have a small 'limited' icon next to it.

If you below a certain level you might not get these Events

GOAL 1 :Tap on pookie gardin / benny moretti
Reward: Assasin Tonfas (29/20) 5 exp

Goal 2: Defeat 5 rivals / rob 5 laundromat
Reward: $1000 1 brick 10 exp

Goal 3:Tap on Agent Stone
Reward: Deadly Shuriken( 42/27) 15 exp

GOAL 4 : Defeat 10 Rivals/ rob 5 pizza parlors
Reward: 100 respect 20 + (10 for robbing , 30 for rivals)

GOAL 5 :Barbershop ( 10 exp) & Fat Micky (45*4 =180exp)
Reward: Siege launcher (70/42) 25 Exp

GOAL 6 : Defeat 15 Rival/ rob 1 pawn shop
Reward:4000, brick and 30 exp ( 45exp & 3exp)

GOAL 7 : tap on lin /perry rickles/mac savage/ statue liberty (441 Energy)
Reward: Cheytac Sniper Rifle (85 / 64)

GOAL 8 : Defeat 20 rival / 5 deli's
Reward - 400respect and 1 brick

GOAL 9 :
Reward Bloody Retribution - gun 124/60

Goal 10: Defeat 25 Rivals/ 5 gas stations
Reward :Prize $7500 and a brick

GOAL 11 :Empire Square, hit Big Time Reni and Eschelman Tower (570 Energy)
Reward: Titanium Faceguard - armor 62/168

GOAL 12 : Defeat 30 rivals/5 dinners
Reward brick: 30 exp

GOAL 13 : Docks ( Longshoreman perez/longshoreman Fletcher/captain Smitz)- (852 Energy)
Reward: pump launcher 155/120 65 exp

GOAL 14 : Defeat 35 Rivals and rob 2 houses,
Reward $10,000, 70 exp

GOAL 15:Soho ( coffee shop/toshiro Taknenaska/yoshimi saito)- (1092 Energy)
Reward: cyclops night vision 139A 194D

GOAL 16 : Defeat 40 Rivals & Rob 10 souvenirs Store
Reward: 1000 Respect and a brick , 80 Experience


GOAL 17 :Libery park ( Freddy Consenxa, Nicky Kneecaps and Fiorella Ricci) - (1326 Energy)
Reward: Enzo speeder 212/158, 85 Experience

GOAL 18 : Defeat 45 Rivals/ 5 barbershops
Reward:12,500 90 exp brick


GOAL 19 :West Side (Ronnie Cohen,Papa Spiros) - (1568 Energy)
Reward: steel grenades 294/141- 95 Exp

GOAL 20 : Defeat 50 Rivals & 5 Electronics Store
Reward: 1250 Respect 100 exp and brick

GOAL 21 :Otto pennig ( shoreline) - (1160 Energy)
Reward: browning .50 cal 160/319



Goal 22: Defeat 55 Rivals and rob 10 Arcades
Rewards: $15000 110 exp Brick

Goal 23: Midtown(Diner, Movie Theater, Pizza Parlor, Dr,. Brauer, Steak House, Don Ricci)- 2844 Energy
Rewards: Sharpshooter's Rifle (300/210), 115XP

Goal 24: Defeat 60 & Rob 3 Fish stores.
Rewards 1500 respect 120 exp

Goal 25: Artist's Quarter (Jobs: Spider Horton, Julian Crayon, Coco van Winkle, Chet Grimes, Aleksa Satyev, Yuri Prokhorov)- 2826 Energy
Rewards:Stolen Concept Car (285/234)

Goal 26: defeat 65 rivals & rob 10 Chinese restaurants
Rewards: $17,500 130 Exp and Brick

Goal 27 Fish Market (Jobs: Emma Edens, Alonzo Prather, Nat Kinney) -2452 Energy
Rewards Mob Limo (240/355)

Goal 28: defeat 70 Rivals & rob 5 bagel shops.
Rewards 1750 Respect and 140 exp and brick.

Goal 29 District Jobs: **** Wicked, Dirty Gerty, Johnny Moronic, Sports Bar- 3476
Rewards: 145XP, Timed Explosive (250/371)

Goal 30: defeat 75 rivals & rob 1 Gunshop
Rewards: $20,000

Goal 31: Southend Projects, Jobs: Biggie Willis and Chazmo Parker- 2394
Rewards: silver streak 360/310 (car)

Goal 32: defeat 80 rivals & 5 Collection Agency
Rewards

Goal 33: Junkyard (Jobs: Joe the Scrapmaster, The Chemist, Hannibal Cooke, Mean Machine Cooke )
Rewards: boss' limo 290/440

Goal 34: defeat 85 rivals & 5 seafood restaurants
Rewards

Goal 35Auto Row -(Jobs: Fancy Car Dealership, Luca Montana, Bruno Genova)
Rewards: cobra elite rifle 460/330

Goal 36: Defeat 90rivals and rob 3 meat factories
Rewards : 180xp, 2500 respect and a brick

Goal 37: Circuit city (Jobs: Knuckles Bevilaqua and Junior Genova)
Rewards : 180 xp and Prototype Speedster (492A 318D)

Goal 38: defeat 95 rivals and rob 10 Sports bars
Rewards : 190xp, 30,000$ and a brick

Goal 39: Seaside (Jobs: Francesca Bevilaqua, Buttons Genova and Don Genova)
Rewards: 190 xp and TNT Blaster Bomb (749A 431D)

Goal 40: 100 rivals and 10 MT
Reward
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_0941_zps9b85da93.jpg

Bala82
05-10-2013, 12:10 PM
Elite mode-prizes
lvl1 infiltrator shotgun 37/21
lvl3 reinforced ballistic armor 40/73
lvl5 assasin's coat 55/126
lvl7 anti-air missile launcher 143/106
lvl9 laser rifle 178/162
lvl11 hideout blaster 140/335 (explosive)
lvl13 midnight sports car 330/270
lvl15 frenzy sniper rifle 440/355
lvl17 silent justice 443/511 (gun)
lvl19 arp 20x 720/388 (gun)
lvl21 flesh ripper chainsaw 560/640 (melee)
lvl23 hitman guard 480/770
lvl25 cage claw 630/670
lvl27 mounted machine gun 990/638
lev29/gun/Hitman Silencer 800/900
lev31/armor/Cage Gloves 722/1028
lev33/car/Dark Bandit 950/850
lev35/gun/Hitman's Scope 1100/750
lev37/explosive/Thermo-Bomb 800/1100
lev39/gun/Elite Prototype Rifle 1400/1564
lev40/car/hitman's Ride 3700/2630

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 12:16 PM
Robbing 5 laundromats is easy but I hope you don't have to find 12, 24, 48 hour buildings to rob. Will be especially tough with everyone after the same things.

zwiswoo
05-10-2013, 12:20 PM
Bala could you record the xp gained in doing the quest in addition to what you get as a "reward"? It would be awesome if we could figure out if these things are as good as boss events for example.

Edit: to clarify, I don't mean counting every time you press a button, just record the overall change in your xp score from time to time :)

njemt242
05-10-2013, 12:23 PM
Bala could you record the xp gained in doing the quest in addition to what you get as a "reward"? It would be awesome if we could figure out if these things are as good as boss events for example.

In MW these have been just as good if not better than boss events

panty sniffer
05-10-2013, 12:24 PM
The Hit List and boss events don't mix well. If you do a hit list mission you will trigger boss while you are trying to regen for the next one. If someone else is in their 2 hour boss battle, their health isn't full and they cannot be attacked by rivals for some hit list missions. "player too beat up"

Edit: on the other hand, hit list mission prizes power you up and make it easier to defeat bosses and vise versa.

SOGO
05-10-2013, 12:31 PM
Goal 4:
- Defeat 10 Rivals
- Rob 5 Pizza Parlors

Goal 2 and 3, 1 reward was a Deadly Shuriken 42/27, the other was a brick - sorry can't remember which was which.

Bala82
05-10-2013, 12:39 PM
This is going to be tough i don't much stamina so i am screwed

i was depending on 100 % energy type.

This is going to take a lot longer than i would like - i try my best log everything in best but there good chance other people will be ahead of me .

MediumRawr
05-10-2013, 12:44 PM
I'm noticing the drops are random eh? I got bricks for atleast 6 of them now, now im out of stamina so im waiting for regen on lvl 15

cr0nchef
05-10-2013, 12:47 PM
In MW these have been just as good if not better than boss events
really I don't play MW or KA is this really worth doing ?
for completing lvl 2 it gives 1000$ 10xp and a brick with 0 att and 0 def

Danimal247
05-10-2013, 12:52 PM
1/40:
- tap on pooke grandin in East Side
- tap on Benny Moretti in East Side

2/40:
- was too excited and forgot to look

3/40:
- tap on agent Stone in the Waterfront

THE JACK
05-10-2013, 12:54 PM
Has anybody got a decent loot item yet?

groovdog
05-10-2013, 01:02 PM
Every other is loot and brick in rotation through at least 11. Gonna wait on this as gonna flip boss tiers on this if go anywhere and boss loot is predictable....

njemt242
05-10-2013, 01:02 PM
really I don't play MW or KA is this really worth doing ?
for completing lvl 2 it gives 1000$ 10xp and a brick with 0 att and 0 def

Its worth it. The rewards will get better as you go through the event. The bricks are great for syndicate donations

zwiswoo
05-10-2013, 01:05 PM
really I don't play MW or KA is this really worth doing ?
for completing lvl 2 it gives 1000$ 10xp and a brick with 0 att and 0 def

I was gonna say...looks like every odd level is a series of jobs whose difficulty keeps increasing, but at least gives you some good/improving item at the end. Instead the even levels just seem to be giving the usual "thug life" type garbage.

SOGO
05-10-2013, 01:07 PM
GOAL 4 : Defeat 10 Rivals/ rob 5 pizza parlors
Reward: 100 respect 20 + (10 for robbing , 30 for rivals)
Missed out a brick there buddy.

BigNick
05-10-2013, 01:07 PM
Goal 8 20 rivals and 5 deli's

Bala82
05-10-2013, 01:12 PM
Thank big nick -if people get past me please post goal and rewards since it takes time for my stamina recover

BigNick
05-10-2013, 01:16 PM
Prize goal 8 400respect and 1 brick
Goal 9 civic centre city hall job and police chief d'a,memo
Goal 9 prize bloody retribution ( don't know what it is picture didn't load and can't find in inventory)

Issaquah
05-10-2013, 01:26 PM
#9 - Bloody Retribution - gun 124/60
#10 - brick
#11 - Titanium Faceguard - armor 62/168
#12 - brick

BigNick
05-10-2013, 01:27 PM
Goal 10 25 rivals and 5 gas stations
Prize $7500 and a brick

Bala82
05-10-2013, 01:29 PM
Thanks ISSAQ

yanpaw
05-10-2013, 01:39 PM
Does somebody know why this 'The Hit Lists' isnt in my goals list yet? I already tried to quit the game and reboot my iphone, but that doesnt work..

murf
05-10-2013, 01:42 PM
#7 is Cheytac Sniper Rifle (85 / 64)

Bala82
05-10-2013, 01:47 PM
Does somebody know why this 'The Hit Lists' isnt in my goals list yet? I already tried to quit the game and reboot my iphone, but that doesnt work..

you need to be at certain level to get the goal -if you are below level 40 you won't get this as maps needed havn't been unlocked

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 01:52 PM
I cannot for the life of me find an unrobbed pawn shop, it's ridiculous. Jinxed myself with that earlier post.

daystardawg
05-10-2013, 01:54 PM
yeah being above level 200, it took me an 45 minutes to even find a pawn shop. asked the dude to send me a post if i could come rob it. then found one to rob 15 minutes later. only took me 15 minutes to find delis to rob.

groovdog
05-10-2013, 02:00 PM
yeah being above level 200, it took me an 45 minutes to even find a pawn shop. asked the dude to send me a post if i could come rob it. then found one to rob 15 minutes later. only took me 15 minutes to find delis to rob.You would figure that someone at Gree would have played the game at a high level and realized stuff like this. They tried the same garbage in KA and all the buildings were looted and they had you hit unit production buildings which burned massive number of units. And in MW they did the same thing (find the building) with unit buildings causing massive losses. Everyone hates these types of events. You would figure Gree would have figure that out. 3 strikes you out Gree.

Swedevil
05-10-2013, 02:01 PM
All buildings on my level 60 account will remain uncollected through this event for anyone that wants to rob them around that level. I just ask that once you've robbed me, you leave a thank you with your mafia code so I can jump my mafia back up as I've decreased it for easier beating...

KizbotBro
05-10-2013, 02:02 PM
Does no one else find it a bit ironic that Bala ( well known for camping and being in a camping only syndicate ) has started the thread about doing new missions. Of all the people on this forum.
Just struck me as funny.

Anyway, thanks for the info Bala threads like this are very popular on the modern war side.

groovdog
05-10-2013, 02:02 PM
I cannot for the life of me find an unrobbed pawn shop, it's ridiculous. Jinxed myself with that earlier post.Hint to all you high level players. Dont collect on your buildings till the event is over once you have been robbed. You will ****block your competition. Big part of the reason why these events dont exist any more in KA/MW.

daystardawg
05-10-2013, 02:05 PM
Gree(d) should have given two types of bldgs to rob, one for lower levels, and one for higher levels. like Rob a pawn shop or a Dominican Restaurant one time. Rob a deli or a french restaurant 5 times, etc. but i guess they are too busy to think logically.

Powerepic
05-10-2013, 02:14 PM
goal 13 reward
pump launcher 155/120

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 02:29 PM
Gree(d) should have given two types of bldgs to rob, one for lower levels, and one for higher levels. like Rob a pawn shop or a Dominican Restaurant one time. Rob a deli or a french restaurant 5 times, etc. but i guess they are too busy to think logically.


Agreed with this. Pawn shops and delis are everywhere at level 20. Level 200 though? Better luck asking your syndicate member to build one for you and tell you when to rob it.


On topic, for Bala:


Goal 8 reward:
40xp, 400RP, brick

Goal 9:
Civic Center, City Hall and Police Chief D'Amato.
Reward: 45xp, Bloody Retribution (124/60)

BigRob
05-10-2013, 02:34 PM
Definitely not happy with this event. I hate doing jobs so I never put any points in Energy, plus getting a Brick every other task is a waste of time and exp for me. I may wait for more of this list to be filled in and if the pattern continues, I won't be pushing forward with this one.

Munson
05-10-2013, 02:56 PM
Devin in MW would have finished this by now.

Jazza
05-10-2013, 02:59 PM
The items will get better people, if its anything like mw there will probably be a good bonus item in there somewhere before the last level !

Big O
05-10-2013, 03:01 PM
Devin in MW would have finished this by now. Haha, so true!

ogel45
05-10-2013, 03:03 PM
One thing I like to know on these events is energy requirements. What I have so far is:
1-125
3-156
5-252
7-501
9-562

psxnitro
05-10-2013, 03:05 PM
The way it mixes PvE and PvP really ruined it for me. I'm taking a pass on this, just like how the first LTQ in MW was PvP, and you had to rob boost and unit buildings... losing $2mil in units per attack was horrendous...

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 03:28 PM
The way it mixes PvE and PvP really ruined it for me. I'm taking a pass on this, just like how the first LTQ in MW was PvP, and you had to rob boost and unit buildings... losing $2mil in units per attack was horrendous...

I think the reason we have to rob these stupid buildings (delis, gas stations, pawn shops, etc) is that the those are the buildings available in the beginning of the game and thus they wouldn't need to make different hitlists for different levels of players (which they should have). Or if they would have preferred to be lazy, I wish they made the robbing goals the same as the attack goals, i.e. instead of "rob 5 gas stations", how about "rob $50k from rival's hoods" or something. They way it is now is ridiculous. Good thing I don't need to spend any gold on stamina or energy refills, because by the time I find the stupid building I want to rob, my stamina and energy will already be full again.

scott(ST6)
05-10-2013, 03:36 PM
goal 15 cyclops night vision 139A 194D

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 03:37 PM
Goal 11: Empire Square, hit Big Time Reni and Eschelman Tower (55xp, Titanium Faceguard)

Really glad I got all the bosses from the early missions one hit yesterday.

Edit: Goal 12: Rob 5 Diners ARHRHGGEFTETG and defeat 30 rivals.

Supermark
05-10-2013, 03:40 PM
Goal 14, rob 2 houses

StickShift
05-10-2013, 03:50 PM
What level player do you have to be to have access to this event?

jakeleo90
05-10-2013, 03:58 PM
I'm level 70 and this quest still isn't activating for me. I've restarted my phone and exited the app but it still won't show up. What can I do to make it activate?

yanpaw
05-10-2013, 03:59 PM
I'm level 70 and this quest still isn't activating for me. I've restarted my phone and exited the app but it still won't show up. What can I do to make it activate?

Same problem for me @ lvl 21

jakeleo90
05-10-2013, 04:01 PM
Nevermind, I'm an idiot. I just forgot to install an update.

murf
05-10-2013, 04:03 PM
People just like to complain...I don't think there was any way to do this type of event and not have a dozen people complaining on the forum.

I'm Level 220 and I've found everything so far without much of a problem, I'm just waiting for my stamina to refill so I can finish L16 (I already robbed the 10 Souvenir Stores, just need to attack rivals now)....

gunny22
05-10-2013, 04:13 PM
GOAL 7 : tap on lin /perry rickles/mac savage/ statue liberty

Damn, I've been putting all on stamina since the last PVP contest.
Not much energy now to do this...

savneetj
05-10-2013, 04:43 PM
Lvl 17 Enzo speeder 212 att def

LVL18 45rivals 5 barbershops

Enigma85
05-10-2013, 04:50 PM
Anyone got a pic of the splash screen?

savneetj
05-10-2013, 04:55 PM
Anyone got a pic of the splash screen?
I did not see any splash screen for this event. It just appeared under goals

FatalAttack
05-10-2013, 05:02 PM
I saw the splash screen but i didn;t take a screen shot

Scarface78
05-10-2013, 05:03 PM
I give up. This kind of event is worthless for campers. It's too much experience for not so good equips. You can finish 2 epic boss events and you will not level up as finishing this one. It's cool only if you are on tier 5, but on tiers 2 to 4 it's suicide.

scott(ST6)
05-10-2013, 05:08 PM
https://i.groupme.com/6e0dc6f09bfb013046a036ea45225dbe.large

Enigma85
05-10-2013, 05:13 PM
Thanks Scott!
This event isn't worth it compared to a boss event. The rewards are similar but with boss events, you can get the rare items and not level up anywhere near as much. This event requires a tonne of energy, stamina and searching for buildings. With boss battles, you don't need to go through all of that...

savneetj
05-10-2013, 05:15 PM
I give up. This kind of event is worthless for campers. It's too much experience for not so good equips. You can finish 2 epic boss events and you will not level up as finishing this one. It's cool only if you are on tier 5, but on tiers 2 to 4 it's suicide.

Don't you think maybe they want campers to play and move on?

Bandit_
05-10-2013, 05:35 PM
I have gotten this four times so far,

3398

if the drop doesn't get better, I will stop because the reward isn't worth leveling up to accomplish all the goals.

Scarface78
05-10-2013, 05:35 PM
Don't you think maybe they want campers to play and move on?

Blame the game, not the campers. If GREE wants people levelling they should make possible increase stats at higher levels without camping at the beginning. What is the points levelling faster and don't have stats to kill epic boss more than 5 times? Lol

FatalAttack
05-10-2013, 05:38 PM
True that scarface! high level players are lucky to beat the epic boss more than 15 times

The real cosmo
05-10-2013, 05:41 PM
Does no one else find it a bit ironic that Bala ( well known for camping and being in a camping only syndicate ) has started the thread about doing new missions. Of all the people on this forum.
Just struck me as funny.

Anyway, thanks for the info Bala threads like this are very popular on the modern war side.

I did notice that. As for myself, since I am done with Miu Ling, I will be camping in my Pagoda hoping to get it to level 4.

BigD@wg
05-10-2013, 05:45 PM
Nice work Bala! The event itself sucks! Needs to be PVE only. These PVP missions are ridiculous.

Peppers
05-10-2013, 05:49 PM
I did notice that. As for myself, since I am done with Miu Ling, I will be camping in my Pagoda hoping to get it to level 4.

I noticed it too! LOL

KizbotBro, I agree. These types of threads are very helpful in MW. Devin does a lot of work to put them together, and they are amazingly helpful! (Thanks again Devin!!)

I hope Bala is up to the task.

The real cosmo
05-10-2013, 05:51 PM
I give up. This kind of event is worthless for campers. It's too much experience for not so good equips. You can finish 2 epic boss events and you will not level up as finishing this one. It's cool only if you are on tier 5, but on tiers 2 to 4 it's suicide.

My thoughts exactly. I'll be idle until the syndicate battle

cr0nchef
05-10-2013, 06:14 PM
I was camping but since I hit lvl 101 I don't care so much and i'm bout to lvl so this will be my last boss. I think this should pay off a little at least considering I had no idea what the pogada event was gonna be so I upgraded a NC right before it started(Fml)........but these are just normal bricks there giving right?

scatman62801
05-10-2013, 06:48 PM
I am trying doing this in one topic,

Requirements
The LTQ event will show up in your Goals, and will have a small 'limited' icon next to it.

If you below a certain level you might not get these Events

GOAL 1 :Tap on pookie gardin / benny moretti
Reward: Assasin Tonfas (29/20) 5 exp

Goal 2: Defeat 5 rivals / rob 5 laundromat
Reward: $1000 1 brick 10 exp

Goal 3:Tap on Agent Stone
Reward: Deadly Shuriken( 42/27) 15 exp

GOAL 4 : Defeat 10 Rivals/ rob 5 pizza parlors
Reward: 100 respect 20 + (10 for robbing , 30 for rivals)

GOAL 5 :Barbershop ( 10 exp) & Fat Micky (45*4 =180exp)
Reward: Siege launcher (70/42) 25 Exp

GOAL 6 : Defeat 15 Rival/ rob 1 pawn shop
Reward:4000, brick and 30 exp ( 45exp & 3exp)

GOAL 7 : tap on lin /perry rickles/mac savage/ statue liberty
Reward: Cheytac Sniper Rifle (85 / 64)

GOAL 8 : Defeat 20 rival / 5 deli's
Reward - 400respect and 1 brick

GOAL 9 :
Reward Bloody Retribution - gun 124/60

Goal 10: Defeat 25 Rivals/ 5 gas stations
Reward brick

GOAL 11 :
Reward: Titanium Faceguard - armor 62/168

GOAL 12 : Defeat 30 rivals
Reward brick

GOAL 13 :
Reward

GOAL 14 : Defeat 35 Rivals
Reward

GOAL 15:
Reward

GOAL 16 : Defeat 40 Rivals
Reward

GOAL 17 :
Reward

GOAL 18 :Defeat 45 Rivals
Reward

GOAL 19 :
Reward

GOAL 20 :Defeat 50 Rivals
Reward

GOAL 21 :
Reward what level do you have to be to participate and how do u start the hit list it is not showing up

Powerepic
05-10-2013, 07:33 PM
what level do you have to be to participate and how do u start the hit list it is not showing up

what i read its the same as mw so level 40

GQNammmer
05-10-2013, 07:37 PM
So much whining lol. Im level 185 and have had no issues finding buildings to rob. Maye take 5 whopping minutes to find someone to rob but the chance will be there. And to all the campers, if history holds true with GREE, these lte's will net you better items in the end then boss events. So please keep camping while your peers surpass you.

DaHoosier
05-10-2013, 08:29 PM
What a bunch of whiners. They made this event for people who have built themselves balanced. If you put your points heavily towards 1 either energy or stamina you will not like this event.

Finding the buildings may take some time, but it's the lazy people that complain, what's wrong with putting a bit of challenge into it?

I personally loved the PvP LTQ in MW , been pissed the last 4 all have been Pve to quiet the masses of lazy whiners.

I think I like this format even better, one set recharges while your doing the other type.

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 08:39 PM
What a bunch of whiners. They made this event for people who have built themselves balanced. If you put your points heavily towards 1 either energy or stamina you will not like this event.

Finding the buildings may take some time, but it's the lazy people that complain, what's wrong with putting a bit of challenge into it?

There is a difference between something being a challenge and something being incredibly tedious.

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 08:44 PM
I have gotten this four times so far,

3398

if the drop doesn't get better, I will stop because the reward isn't worth leveling up to accomplish all the goals.

I think the prizes for completing jobs is better. Hit List 20 was a rivals based one and gave something like 1250RP and a brick, but Hit List 21 on Shoreline gave 105xp and Browning .50 Cal (160A/319D).

Dipstik
05-10-2013, 08:46 PM
Where are the goals? I don't see them.

kingofwale
05-10-2013, 08:47 PM
I think the prizes for completing jobs is better. Hit List 20 was a rivals based one and gave something like 1250RP and a brick, but Hit List 21 on Shoreline gave 105xp and Browning .50 Cal (160A/319D).what do you have to find in 20??

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 08:48 PM
Also on topic, I believe the buildings you're supposed to rob might go in order as the appear in the money buildings menu. I might be getting the order confused but diner, souvenir store, barber shop, electronics store, arcade, etc are all in a row. I might be getting the order wrong but Hit List 22 is 10 arcades, and I would guess 24 is Italian Restaurants, 26 Chinese restaurants (but I have two Movie Theaters and I'm not sure where those were?) etc.

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 08:50 PM
what do you have to find in 20??


Edit: misread your post. 20 was electronics stores.


Hit List 21. Shoreline: Defeat Otto Pennig.

All of the map based ones so far have included the boss of that map, and some of them include other jobs, and others are just the boss.

PawnXIIX
05-10-2013, 08:55 PM
Took me forever to find those electronic stores at 188, I can only imagine what that is like for people up at the 250 mark ._.

Lucky4u
05-10-2013, 09:01 PM
Does anybody has the screenshot of the main prize?

Droop1972
05-10-2013, 09:03 PM
There is a difference between something being a challenge and something being incredibly tedious.

Agreed, a small fraction of people have a pizza parlor at level 190. A smaller fraction are going to have a pawn shop for you to rob.

tehlolkid
05-10-2013, 09:04 PM
Is there a prestige mode after you finish all 40 like mw?

PawnXIIX
05-10-2013, 09:06 PM
Does anybody has the screenshot of the main prize?

The main prize is the same image as the midnight racer - the purple lamborghini that costs $12.5 million

mxz
05-10-2013, 09:09 PM
The bit about whining seems off. The different stages of the game have different types of buildings. At low levels you're apt to find Pizza Parlors and Deli's, but in the late stages Lofts, Condos and Modern Lofts are more common.

They could set this up as Rob 5 Deli's or Credit Agencies to balance it a little better.

#smugforthought

alex6789
05-10-2013, 09:38 PM
People just like to complain...I don't think there was any way to do this type of event and not have a dozen people complaining on the forum.

I'm Level 220 and I've found everything so far without much of a problem, I'm just waiting for my stamina to refill so I can finish L16 (I already robbed the 10 Souvenir Stores, just need to attack rivals now)....

No murf, I really hate complaining....but try being in my shoes...we(kindle players) just got into syndicate play less than a month ago. and before that, we were not able to participate in other events. once again, no response from gree.....

MoarKrabs
05-10-2013, 09:38 PM
It's not helping one bit considering it's taking me forever to travel between hoods and whatnot. Anyone else have this problem?

[FwD] J1M H3N50N
05-10-2013, 09:40 PM
All done... I decided what the hell. Bought myself a vault and did all 40 levels. Leveled 3 times gained about 10k in stats not including the car that will be rewarded later I'm hoping. And over 20k in respect. The Last two prizes were a 700 atk explosive and the last was a gun with 2000 atk. Spent about 700 In gold. After it was finished it just restarted from one with all new prizes. Going at about the same stat increase as the first 40.

Thank you and good night......

gambet1234
05-10-2013, 09:42 PM
I spent the last 4 hours looking for a laundromat at level210... I found five, but their defense stat was 200k more than my attack on the only un-robbed one. It doesn't help that the game restarts every two or three hoods and takes more than a minute to load each one... remember nine months ago when you could actually go to rival hoods on Android? Ahh, those were the days.

Did anyone else notice that the bricks have attack/defense stats of 0/0? ...yet they don't show up in loot or explosives and that they aren't the kind of brick you can donate. I was hoping they would be like TP and be there to up our stats for the war when they increase them to 500A/500D :)

Edit:5hrs in, 2/5 laundromats robbed.

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 09:44 PM
J1M H3N50N;752775']All done... I decided what the hell. Bought myself a vault and did all 40 levels. Leveled 3 times gained about 10k in stats not including the car that will be rewarded later I'm hoping. And over 20k in respect. The Last two prizes were a 700 atk explosive and the last was a gun with 2000 atk. Spent about 700 In gold. After it was finished it just restarted from one with all new prizes. Going in about the same stat increase as the first 40.

Thank you and good night......

Nice. Perhaps you can progress past 40 the second time around?

Edit: though that's extraordinarily dumb that they make you grind through those awful rob missions again.

Edit 2: do you remember what map you had to go up to?

Spartacus18888
05-10-2013, 10:09 PM
this is frankly a great event.....

GQNammmer
05-10-2013, 10:09 PM
J1M H3N50N;752775']All done... I decided what the hell. Bought myself a vault and did all 40 levels. Leveled 3 times gained about 10k in stats not including the car that will be rewarded later I'm hoping. And over 20k in respect. The Last two prizes were a 700 atk explosive and the last was a gun with 2000 atk. Spent about 700 In gold. After it was finished it just restarted from one with all new prizes. Going at about the same stat increase as the first 40.

Thank you and good night......

Bad news for you. You only finished normal mode. You need to complete epic mode to get the final prize but the rewards will all add up

[FwD] J1M H3N50N
05-10-2013, 10:17 PM
Last map was sea side. Then last event level was 100 rivals and 10 MTs

And I sure as hell hope not. Finding all those buildings was torture... Lol

Ahhh crap your right. There is a elite list right after.

Kidkiller
05-10-2013, 10:21 PM
First they shouldn't have mixed pvp aka kill/ rob this building. Its should have been entirely PVE ... Plus you have to complete the normal and the heroic mode to get the prize ? Why?why? Why not one at the end of normal mode than one with higher stats in heroic mode!

nytelock
05-10-2013, 10:22 PM
J1M H3N50N;752775']All done... I decided what the hell. Bought myself a vault and did all 40 levels. Leveled 3 times gained about 10k in stats not including the car that will be rewarded later I'm hoping. And over 20k in respect. The Last two prizes were a 700 atk explosive and the last was a gun with 2000 atk. Spent about 700 In gold. After it was finished it just restarted from one with all new prizes. Going at about the same stat increase as the first 40.

Thank you and good night......

Good job Jim!

gambet1234
05-10-2013, 10:23 PM
I've got a Syn member that sees the event at lvl37. My Ted camper doesn't see it at level 34.

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 10:27 PM
Hit List 23:
Map: Midtown
Diner, Movie Theater, Pizza Parlor, Dr,. Brauer, Steak House, Don Ricci

Reward: Sharpshooter's Rifle (300/210), 115XP

bald zeemer
05-10-2013, 10:30 PM
First they shouldn't have mixed pvp aka kill/ rob this building. Its should have been entirely PVE ... Plus you have to complete the normal and the heroic mode to get the prize ? Why?why? Why not one at the end of normal mode than one with higher stats in heroic mode!

There is one at the end of normal mode. 2200 atk car.

tehlolkid
05-10-2013, 10:35 PM
[FwD] J1M H3N50N, what you are playing now is called "Prestige Mode". The weapons will improve as you go further. Try to complete it.

bald zeemer
05-10-2013, 10:47 PM
Blame the game, not the campers. If GREE wants people levelling they should make possible increase stats at higher levels without camping at the beginning. What is the points levelling faster and don't have stats to kill epic boss more than 5 times? Lol

That's exactly what this event is.

[FwD] J1M H3N50N
05-10-2013, 10:49 PM
[FwD] J1M H3N50N, what you are playing now is called "Prestige Mode". The weapons will improve as you go further. Try to complete it.

I plan on taking this event as far as I can go. So far ten levels done in the elite list. Also just noticed that pvp goals are doubled..*facepalm*

tehlolkid
05-10-2013, 11:28 PM
yeah, but the weapons stats will increase too. You'll see.

BigMoney
05-10-2013, 11:35 PM
Hitlist 24 was Fish stores.

Hitlist 25:
Map: Artist's Quarter
Jobs: Spider Horton, Julian Crayon, Coco van Winkle, Chet Grimes, Aleksa Satyev, Yuri Prokhorov
Reward: Stolen Concept Car (285/234)

Hit list 26 is Chinese restaurants. So they skipped Italian restaurants, so my theory about the buildings going in order was wrong.

lordsagacity
05-10-2013, 11:40 PM
J1M H3N50N;752838']I plan on taking this event as far as I can go. So far ten levels done in the elite list. Also just noticed that pvp goals are doubled..*facepalm*
Probably need another 2 vaults to get the hitman's ride.

bald zeemer
05-10-2013, 11:46 PM
Hitlist 24 was Fish stores.

Hitlist 25:
Map: Artist's Quarter
Jobs: Spider Horton, Julian Crayon, Coco van Winkle, Chet Grimes, Aleksa Satyev, Yuri Prokhorov
Reward: Stolen Concept Car (285/234)

Hit list 26 is Chinese restaurants. So they skipped Italian restaurants, so my theory about the buildings going in order was wrong.

Next is bagel, gun store, collection, seafood, meat factory, from memory.

tehlolkid
05-11-2013, 12:02 AM
Btw people, to get that Hitman ride, you need to finish all the 40 and then replay it as "Elite mode". You won't get the car when you complete just the first 40 missions.

tehlolkid
05-11-2013, 12:20 AM
Because it says so on the splash screen.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 12:21 AM
That's what the splash shows, and how the event works in other games.

I'll post a s/s of the 1st round prize in about an hour.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 12:35 AM
That you only get a 2200 stat item that is relatively easy to obtain in free play?
Yea, they're basically stabbing you in the eye.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Hitlist 27:
Map: Fish Market
Jobs: Emma Edens, Alonzo Prather, Nat Kinney
Reward: Mob Limo (240/355)


If someone has done the "Elite" missions, please tell me if the jobs are the same or not (or if perhaps there are more of them). I imagine after Hitlist 40 they keep progressing through the higher maps in order (Restaurant Row, etc). It's going to get increasingly expensive to finish that with gold, I'm not sure how much I want to do yet.

groovdog
05-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Please post a screenshot From cc mentioning second lvl for this event as I have read the event info.....It says ELITE in the text that is all you are gonna get for proof other than people here saying so.

EVERY Gree event like this in CC/MW/KA requires 2 runs. Often time it is the same # of parts (often with higher energy requirements or sounds like more rivals in this one) such as KA or potentially even more parts like MW.

Dont believe people at severe risk to your gold.....

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 01:59 AM
Hitlist 27:
Map: Fish Market
Jobs: Emma Edens, Alonzo Prather, Nat Kinney
Reward: Mob Limo (240/355)


If someone has done the "Elite" missions, please tell me if the jobs are the same or not (or if perhaps there are more of them). I imagine after Hitlist 40 they keep progressing through the higher maps in order (Restaurant Row, etc). It's going to get increasingly expensive to finish that with gold, I'm not sure how much I want to do yet.

Jobs are exactly the same.

Here's the first round completion prize:
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/IMG_0941_zps9b85da93.jpg

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 02:05 AM
Nice, thanks bald zeemer. I guess I will continue to tear through these then.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 02:08 AM
Thanks guy helping me fill it in

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 02:13 AM
Bala Goal 26 was rob 10 Chinese restaurants and Goal 28 is to rob 5 bagel shops.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 02:14 AM
And for a bit of comparison, the assassins coat (? - the RP weapon, I'm pretty sure) was one of the early prizes in the elite round.

cooch
05-11-2013, 02:19 AM
You would figure that someone at Gree would have played the game at a high level and realized stuff like this. They tried the same garbage in KA and all the buildings were looted and they had you hit unit production buildings which burned massive number of units. And in MW they did the same thing (find the building) with unit buildings causing massive losses. Everyone hates these types of events. You would figure Gree would have figure that out. 3 strikes you out Gree.

Since Syn cannot attack each member this implies syns cooperating and having some folks build these destitute bldgs to get up. Meanwhile others will probably let the buildings get attacked and not reset. What do folks do in MW with this LTQ nonsense? At what pt do prizes worthwhile, lvl 20/40?

GQNammmer
05-11-2013, 02:31 AM
Since Syn cannot attack each member this implies syns cooperating and having some folks build these destitute bldgs to get up. Meanwhile others will probably let the buildings get attacked and not reset. What do folks do in MW with this LTQ nonsense? At what pt do prizes worthwhile, lvl 20/40?

Typically in KA and in MW, finishing the "normal mode" would net you modest stats. The further you go, the better the prizes get. Also, if you do decide to spend some gold, finishing elite/prestige mode would net you about 3 times the stats more than what normal mode would give.

Depending on how successful this event is, this may be the only time we see an event that requires robbing buildings. I know they tried this once with MW and a few times with KA. It appears GREE will eventually lean to an event that is all PvE or PvP

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 02:53 AM
Bala, Goal 29:

Map: Club District
Jobs: **** Wicked, Dirty Gerty, Johnny Moronic, Sports Bar
Reward: 145XP, Timed Explosive (250/371)

tehlolkid
05-11-2013, 02:58 AM
I'm still on 15/40. ****

KidWiz
05-11-2013, 03:08 AM
For the amount of xp gained and the effort needed the rewards are too lousy IMHO. They should have left out either PvP or PvE.

tehlolkid
05-11-2013, 03:45 AM
No offense but Bala82, your log sucks lol. Need more stats

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 03:53 AM
Prize for 12 on elite is a Hideout Blaster.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 03:57 AM
No offense but Bala82, your log sucks lol. Need more stats

Well no offence taken next LTQ event i will allow someone else to do. I think this allows other player a chance contribute. big money has been best help i wish i could send him some cat food for their cat :)

tehlolkid
05-11-2013, 04:47 AM
Atleast you could add how many energy needed for each mission.

(CK) EL
05-11-2013, 05:03 AM
thread is fine, good efford Bala and thank you, who ever doesn't like it can start his own thing

annezonly
05-11-2013, 05:40 AM
that was a great list Bala,lets us see if its worth pushing for one more list before having to stop.but I wish i had put more points into energy now.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 05:53 AM
that was a great list Bala,lets us see if its worth pushing for one more list before having to stop.but I wish i had put more points into energy now.

I am working through it very slowly as i don't much stamina only 20 ( so 40 rival will take me 2 hours, 50 rival will take 3 hours, 60 rival will take 4 hours and so on ). I might not elite round before 4 days are up.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 05:58 AM
Stamina is a bigger restriction than energy - the problem most likely was stat points in attack and defense, which have no real use whatsoever.

As long as you've learnt, you'll be well placed for success in the future.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 06:03 AM
Well i never really need stamina as a camper since i hardly used it 20 stamina give 15 boxes for box event .

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 06:09 AM
Which is why campers should bank skill points.

groovdog
05-11-2013, 06:41 AM
Bala you are doing fine. You are being compared to Devin in MW who finishes it in first 3-4 hr typically doing all gold. Unless someone steps up to do that then we got what we got.

Euchred
05-11-2013, 07:32 AM
Goal 36: defeat 90 rivals and rob 3 meat factories
Rewards: 180xp, 2500 respact and a brick

Goal 37 Circuit city (Jobs: Knuckles Bevilaqua and Junior Genova)
Rewards: 180 xp and Prototype Speedster (492A 318D)

Goal 38: defeat 95 rivals and rob 10 Sports bars
Rewards:

Icecauldron
05-11-2013, 07:52 AM
Well i never really need stamina as a camper since i hardly used it 20 stamina give 15 boxes for box event .

Hey Bala, how many levels have u increased upon completion of the LTQ?

Bala82
05-11-2013, 07:53 AM
Hey Bala, how many levels have u increased upon completion of the LTQ?

So far only 1 level from level 101 to 102

HaroldFinch
05-11-2013, 08:15 AM
So far only 1 level from level 101 to 102

thats good to know, thanks

Euchred
05-11-2013, 08:16 AM
Goal 38: defeat 95 rivals and rob 10 Sports bars
Rewards: 190xp, 30,000$ and a brick

Goal 39: Seaside (Jobs: Francesca Bevilaqua, Buttons Genova and Don Genova)
Rewards: 190 xp and TNT Blaster Bomb (749A 431D)

Icecauldron
05-11-2013, 08:16 AM
So far only 1 level from level 101 to 102

Good piece of info, thanks

Bala82
05-11-2013, 08:21 AM
TNT Blaster Bomb (749A 431D)

Wow that best explosive item i have seen so far :)

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 08:24 AM
Nerve Gas, 2500 atk.

And just wait a few days or weeks....

yanpaw
05-11-2013, 09:09 AM
Soo.. This is a lvl 40+ event, the low lvl players stay weak and the high lvl players become stronger, nice gree

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 09:19 AM
Soo.. This is a lvl 40+ event, the low lvl players stay weak and the high lvl players become stronger, nice gree

You need 8k raw attack to take a boss out to level 40. Someone on level 101 need 846k raw attack.

No more complaining from you. If you really want to be a higher level, it takes a couple of hours to level up to 40 if you really try.

Thanker
05-11-2013, 09:33 AM
Does somebody know why this 'The Hit Lists' isnt in my goals list yet? I already tried to quit the game and reboot my iphone, but that doesnt work..

Eh, I dunno also but what i do know is i have the same problem, not getting the splash screen and seeing no goals of hit list in my goals. Despite that i attempted to do the first mission based on bala's list and realize i do get the rewards as i go along. The tricky part is tracking the progress yourself and having no goal to guide u.

Eventually once u complete a hit task u get the word NEW at yr goal. Click long on goal after seeing that basically does nothing. U don't get to see the next hit. BUT u can still do the next hit by using bala's list.

If bala's list is complete i think this quest is doable. I am at lvl 40 btw.

ShirleyManson
05-11-2013, 09:37 AM
here, something to fill in the spaces

lvl1 assassin tonfas 29/20 (melee)
lvl3 deadly shuriken 42/27
lvl5 siege launcher 70/42
lvl7 cheytac sniper rifle 85/64
lvl9 bloody retribution 124/60 (gun)
lvl11 titanium faceguard 62/168
lvl13 pump launcher 155/120 gun
lvl15 cyclops night vision 139/194
lvl17 enzo speeder 212/158
lvl19 steel grenades 294/141
lvl21 browning .50 cal 160/319
lvl23 sharpshooter's rifle 300/210
lvl25 stolen concept car 285/234
lvl27 mob limo 240/355
lvl29 timed explosive 250/371
lvl31 silver streak 360/310 (car)
lvl33 boss' limo 290/440
lvl35 cobra elite rifle 460/330
lvl37 prototype speedster 492/318
lvl39 TNT blaster bomb 749/431
lvl40 hitman's shotgun 2200/2000

elite mode
lvl1 infiltrator shotgun 37/21
lvl3 reinforced ballistic armor 40/73
lvl5 assasin's coat 55/126
lvl7 anti-air missile launcher 143/106
lvl9 laser rifle 178/162
lvl11 hideout blaster 140/335 (explosive)
lvl13 midnight sports car 330/270
lvl15 frenzy sniper rifle 440/355
lvl17 silent justice 443/511 (gun)
lvl19 arp 20x 720/388 (gun)

Bala82
05-11-2013, 09:40 AM
I am on Android version 3.6.0.2 Build 93

Only updated version have the goals so if you using version 3.6.0.1 or below you won't have the goal list.

I discovered this during limited building event when i realise it wasn't in my goal list i strightaway update and got it .

Sherod
05-11-2013, 10:29 AM
Does anyone know if goals will count if done in a different order?for ex:if were to do job number 40 early,will it already be checked off the list?

The real cosmo
05-11-2013, 10:29 AM
So much whining lol. Im level 185 and have had no issues finding buildings to rob. Maye take 5 whopping minutes to find someone to rob but the chance will be there. And to all the campers, if history holds true with GREE, these lte's will net you better items in the end then boss events. So please keep camping while your peers surpass you.

I think the Red Dragon is a little more powerful than the car being offered for this event but they are comparable and much weaker than the Pagoda prize. All vehicles tho.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 10:35 AM
Does anyone know if goals will count if done in a different order?for ex:if were to do job number 40 early,will it already be checked off the list?

nope it's a chain event you have to follow the chain if you break the chain you won't get credit for it.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 10:38 AM
Since I don't see them in the table yet Bala, here are Hitlist 31 & 32:

31: Map: Southend Projects, Jobs: Biggie Willis and Chazmo Parker
32: Defeat 80 rivals, rob 5 collection agencies

Bala82
05-11-2013, 10:45 AM
Thank i stuck at finding unrobbed electronics store i found few this morning but i was doing barbshop one.

teo
05-11-2013, 10:46 AM
@ Bald Zeemer,

Could I trouble you to post, even approximately, how much Xp you gained going trough normal mode?

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 10:46 AM
I think the Red Dragon is a little more powerful than the car being offered for this event but they are comparable and much weaker than the Pagoda prize. All vehicles tho.

I'm positive that the cumulative stats of finishing first time through is better than a boss event.
Stats start jumping rapidly near the end (and keep going in the second run through, after a brief dip).

Bala82
05-11-2013, 10:50 AM
@ Bald Zeemer,

Could I trouble you to post, even approximately, how much Xp you gained going trough normal mode?

40K in normal

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 10:53 AM
I didn't pay a jot of notice - it's simply not relevant to me, sorry.
Bala's figure seems ballpark.

THE JACK
05-11-2013, 10:56 AM
Thank i stuck at finding unrobbed electronics store i found few this morning but i was doing barbshop one.

I always find what I was just looking for. Getting frustrated.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 10:56 AM
Thank i stuck at finding unrobbed electronics store i found few this morning but i was doing barbshop one.

I have a little sticky note on my desk and have written down names/levels of people with buildings that are next on my list (credit to bald zeemer for letting me know which buildings those were). Then it just because a matter of hunting down those players again by refreshing the rival's list a thousand times (hoping they aren't too beat up). Also, players with low mafia are more likely to have the crappy buildings IMO.

Edit: also bala, I'm at 105 now but I have most of the buildings in my hood. If you need a couple of the upcoming buildings, let me know on my wall and I'll tell you the timer for it.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 10:59 AM
I'm glad it worked for you mate. I couldn't get the guys to turn up on my RL, and now elec is causing me all sorts of headaches - even though it was close to my easiest on the first run.

Oh well, it is what it is.

zwiswoo
05-11-2013, 11:31 AM
Okay, with the info from Shirley Manson and Bala/Zeemer it is clear that finishing this in normal mode is going to give you ~7000 attack points (and lots of respect and bricks) for 40000 (!!) xp points. More if you've got points for hitman/thug life type goals in the pipeline.

To me it seems this is atrocious value for anyone who isn't in the last boss tier: you get basically the same number of points as a boss event for nine times as much experience. It's a good thing for high level players obviously since boss events are so unfair/skewed. But I should have thought the way to fix boss events is to fix boss events (one or two more tiers, or improving weapons with tier etc) not to create one more skewed event. Anyways. Good to know we're talking 40k points - that would almost get me to the end of tier 3.

Spartacus18888
05-11-2013, 11:36 AM
im not as keen on this event now......its getting boring......

teo
05-11-2013, 11:38 AM
I'm positive that the cumulative stats of finishing first time through is better than a boss event.
Stats start jumping rapidly near the end (and keep going in the second run through, after a brief dip).

Depending on how well boss turned out for ya, difference is ~ 1-2K better than latest boss

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 11:53 AM
I'm glad it worked for you mate. I couldn't get the guys to turn up on my RL, and now elec is causing me all sorts of headaches - even though it was close to my easiest on the first run.

Oh well, it is what it is.

Part of me is a little suspicious that it's intentional too. I know it could be observation bias, but it seemed like every single time I was looking for X building, I'd visit every single rival that would show up on my rivals list and never find it, and then eventually when I did get it and had to start looking for Y building, all of a sudden there are unrobbed X buildings all over the place.

Mainly I might have got a little lucky in finding a few "good" hoods-- my hood would be one of them, for instance, meaning I have a defense that puts me out of the range of 95% of players so I don't get robbed much, but if you can rob/attack me, I have one of almost every one of those buildings on the list. I would stalk me if I were someone else. I also had one guy on my newsfeed I've stalking for his likely time-traveled NCs, but he has two of almost every other building too.

Edit 2: I didn't use the same guy for all the jobs, but he was a huge help finishing off the Souvenir Shop one since barely anyone I found even has those awful buildings.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 11:53 AM
Okay, with the info from Shirley Manson and Bala/Zeemer it is clear that finishing this in normal mode is going to give you ~7000 attack points (and lots of respect and bricks) for 40000 (!!) xp points. More if you've got points for hitman/thug life type goals in the pipeline.

To me it seems this is atrocious value for anyone who isn't in the last boss tier: you get basically the same number of points as a boss event for nine times as much experience. It's a good thing for high level players obviously since boss events are so unfair/skewed. But I should have thought the way to fix boss events is to fix boss events (one or two more tiers, or improving weapons with tier etc) not to create one more skewed event. Anyways. Good to know we're talking 40k points - that would almost get me to the end of tier 3.

The important thing to remember is that the existence of this event changes the whole approach. Yes, it will massively reduce the ability to take low tier bosses - but failing to take part now has a cost in forgone stats.

Once you hit level 101, xp is no longer the be-all and end-all it previously was, so the issue is how many bosses could you take from your current level vs how many LTQ's you'll pass up in doing those bosses. Since it is highly likely there'll be 1 boss event and 1 LTQ event per cycle, total stats become significantly more important. It is impossible to do more boss events than LTQs. The reasons to camp now become:
a) You are high stat for your tier, and can push through boss 50 far enough to mitigate the stat differential
b) You have misallocated skill points into attack and defense, and cannot get good results from LTQ.
c) You are heinously scared of losing fights in general play, to anybody.

If a or b happen to be true, then keep on camping. If c is true, then re-examine which game you chose to play, or else you'll end up with a hood full of defense buildings and the most losses in the game anyway.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 12:03 PM
Bala, Hit List 33:

Map: Junkyard
Jobs: Joe the Scrapmaster, The Chemist, Hannibal Cooke, Mean Machine Cooke
Reward: Boss' Limo (290/440), 165XP

HL34: 85 rivals, 5 seafood restaurants

teo
05-11-2013, 12:08 PM
The important thing to remember is that the existence of this event changes the whole approach. Yes, it will massively reduce the ability to take low tier bosses - but failing to take part now has a cost in forgone stats.

Once you hit level 101, xp is no longer the be-all and end-all it previously was, so the issue is how many bosses could you take from your current level vs how many LTQ's you'll pass up in doing those bosses. Since it is highly likely there'll be 1 boss event and 1 LTQ event per cycle, total stats become significantly more important. It is impossible to do more boss events than LTQs. The reasons to camp now become:
a) You are high stat for your tier, and can push through boss 50 far enough to mitigate the stat differential
b) You have misallocated skill points into attack and defense, and cannot get good results from LTQ.
c) You are heinously scared of losing fights in general play, to anybody.

If a or b happen to be true, then keep on camping. If c is true, then re-examine which game you chose to play, or else you'll end up with a hood full of defense buildings and the most losses in the game anyway.

I would say you are basically correct. I would also say that is isn't as solidly a point as it may seem.

To a large extent LTQ is 'boss event' for high level. For the vast majority that does not spend gold it comes down to getting one or the other. You can't have both. Low level can complete boss, and take the low hanging fruit of ltq, high level can complete ltq (and level further) while still get the early level bosses. Overall with bit of advantage to high level/ltq approach, but not so much of an advantage that it is a one way only or lose out.

If they don't change anything else (ha) This just may be the re-balancing needed so free players at higher level still have a reason to be part of the game; yes free players are of importance to gree, they need some cannon fodder.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 12:09 PM
Bala, Hit List 33:

HL34: 85 rivals, 5 seafood restaurants


How many hours did it take you reach Goal 34 - 1 day ?

Bala82
05-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Well after 30 minutes i found someone with level 10 Electronics store you could say i went to town on it.

zwiswoo
05-11-2013, 12:25 PM
The important thing to remember is that the existence of this event changes the whole approach. Yes, it will massively reduce the ability to take low tier bosses - but failing to take part now has a cost in forgone stats.

Once you hit level 101, xp is no longer the be-all and end-all it previously was, so the issue is how many bosses could you take from your current level vs how many LTQ's you'll pass up in doing those bosses. Since it is highly likely there'll be 1 boss event and 1 LTQ event per cycle, total stats become significantly more important. It is impossible to do more boss events than LTQs. The reasons to camp now become:
a) You are high stat for your tier, and can push through boss 50 far enough to mitigate the stat differential
b) You have misallocated skill points into attack and defense, and cannot get good results from LTQ.
c) You are heinously scared of losing fights in general play, to anybody.

If a or b happen to be true, then keep on camping. If c is true, then re-examine which game you chose to play, or else you'll end up with a hood full of defense buildings and the most losses in the game anyway.

Okay so let's take me (level 60), and say my horizon is the next year and a half. And suppose each event cycle is three weeks. I'm guessing this time's 12 day cycle is an anomaly.

Case 1: I play four of these LTQs, and get to level 101 in three months. In that time, I gain 28k attack points. At that point I can play in the tougher field for fifteen months, and won't gain further then from boss events. Sure, I'll still have these LTQ events, but so does everyone.

Case 2: I just play boss events and collect 10 etc for another six months and skip these LTQ events. Then in those six months I gain ~50k attack points from ~8 boss events. In that time sure I've lost out on playing these LTQs. And spend two months more getting to level 101 for a total of eight months. I have then 10 months in the top tier.

So the trade is (case 1 vs 2):
A) Eight enjoyable (read: can finish) boss events versus eight LTQ events
B) 15 months in the top tier vs 10

So in the next eight months I can play eight extra boss events or play eight extra LTQs. In terms of stats it's basically a wash. Especially since from then on it's all LTQ I don't see the benefit of starting early :)

I also can't say I particularly care about being in the top tier to begin with - pretty sure I won't be playing this long enough to get to level 200 for example. But to the extent it matters I'd rather be strong in my tier than weak in a higher one. I guess it's different for different people.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 12:31 PM
I would say you are basically correct. I would also say that is isn't as solidly a point as it may seem.

To a large extent LTQ is 'boss event' for high level. For the vast majority that does not spend gold it comes down to getting one or the other. You can't have both. Low level can complete boss, and take the low hanging fruit of ltq, high level can complete ltq (and level further) while still get the early level bosses. Overall with bit of advantage to high level/ltq approach, but not so much of an advantage that it is a one way only or lose out.

If they don't change anything else (ha) This just may be the re-balancing needed so free players at higher level still have a reason to be part of the game; yes free players are of importance to gree, they need some cannon fodder.

I think you're almost right on the money. The important thing, in my mind, is that now a player under level 100 has a choice that isn't based on whether they know how the game works, but how they want to play the game.

I'm still not sold that this is a boss event equivalent to HLPs - purely due to the irrelevancy of leveling between 101 and 197ish. But in terms of a "you have a chance to boost stats by x if you do y" approach, yes it is. But this might just as easily be me falling into the level-fixation I'm hoping will become irrelevant.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 12:32 PM
I hope people realise if you are participating in these event you just left your link in all your rivals news feed which mean after the events is over they come come to your hood for payback

panty sniffer
05-11-2013, 12:37 PM
Crunched some numbers and this is what I got:

Normal Mode: Approximately 40k EXP "quoted by Bala".
Total attk/def - 6998/6366

VS. Last Boss Event

EXP 3890
Total Attk/def- 8575/8425 "varies but this is what I got this time"


Conclusion: Hit man event exp "normal mode" is more than ten times as much for about 15%-20% less stats compared to boss event.

One could conclude that this TLQ hit man event is inferior to boss events bu\y more than 10:1 ratio when exp vs att/def gain is considered.

(edit for bald zeemer) Agreed,Definitely for tier 5 peeps only.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 12:41 PM
Again, xp means nothing from lvl 101. The camping approach, whilst entirely appropriate previously, is no longer the dominant narrative in CC.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 12:45 PM
How many hours did it take you reach Goal 34 - 1 day ?

Well, unless I started early, yes I believe we just hit the 24 hour mark. I've spent maybe 200 or so on gold so far (hard to tell exactly since I'm also spending gold on beating my last boss over 40 times). I've mainly spent gold for energy refills, and to time my level ups when I have both no energy, no stamina, AND 0 boss health (i.e. I finish an attack/rob HL goal, and quickly rush to finish the map-based HL goal likely using energy refills). The later levels are getting increasingly expensive energy-wise. The Junkyard map wasn't just Joe the Scrapmaster (~2000 enegy), but also The Chemist, Mean Machine Cooke, and Hannibal Cooke.


Well after 30 minutes i found someone with level 10 Electronics store you could say i went to town on it.

That's disgusting.


I hope people realise if you are participating in these event you just left your link in all your rivals news feed which mean after the events is over they come come to your hood for payback

This is why I rob people whose attack is less than half of my defense (unless they have a really high IPH, in which case I want them to hit back).

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 12:50 PM
This is why I rob people whose attack is less than half of my defense (unless they have a really high IPH, in which case I want them to hit back).
Not mentioned the endless indiscriminate attacks that have been occurring. I've had more links left per hour since this event started than I've had for the year to date. ;)

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 12:52 PM
Not mentioned the endless indiscriminate attacks that have been occurring. I've had more links left per hour since this event started than I've had for the year to date. ;)

"This guy robbed me of $548, better teach him a lesson!"

zwiswoo
05-11-2013, 12:54 PM
Another point to remember is you can do boss events, even 13-hitting for the second part, while still doing other things. This kind of event is a much bigger time sink for the amount you gain, and not even gold helps find useless buildings. I don't know if I really want to make a phone game the focus of each weekend.

I'm glad there's something to do in the high levels to gain stats but I don't think an event with such massive xp gain is particularly appealing to those lower down, especially when for us it means foreclosing other ways of gaining points - once you're level 101 this time/stamina/energy intensive way is the only one available.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 12:54 PM
Not mentioned the endless indiscriminate attacks that have been occurring. I've had more links left per hour since this event started than I've had for the year to date. ;)

lucky you i only 3 people attack me but 10 robbery attempt unfortunately there were mostly failed only 2 were successful.

Mr T Perfect
05-11-2013, 12:58 PM
I wish i could even start this thing - level 29 and was camping... not impressed. at least in KA and MW the maps open up to everyone to have a go. even if you cant get the units to complete it at least you can have a go at a few levels.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 01:00 PM
I've hit about 15x as many people as you have. Probably the explanation there. I've even had people claim I'm camping in their hoods, despite the fact that I don't recall ever seeing their name before.

#someformofsmugnesswhilststillholdingontorequireda mountsofselfdeprecation

teo
05-11-2013, 01:01 PM
I think you're almost right on the money. The important thing, in my mind, is that now a player under level 100 has a choice that isn't based on whether they know how the game works, but how they want to play the game.

I think that is a worth while point. One caveat is that even if we try to avoid speaking of levels, the skill points are still there. The lower your level the more critical it becomes that you knew (or were able to foresee) how to allocate points. While I have just as good of a chance at ltq as any free player, that only holds true if I am willing to sacrifice all sleep. We all regen approx the same, but I have no 'bank' (few energy points) so I have to constantly use....not practical. This situation is typical for lower level. No whining, just a fact.


I'm still not sold that this is a boss event equivalent to HLPs - purely due to the irrelevancy of leveling between 101 and 197ish. But in terms of a "you have a chance to boost stats by x if you do y" approach, yes it is. But this might just as easily be me falling into the level-fixation I'm hoping will become irrelevant.

I am all for getting out of level fixation, it is also odd to me that it has ended up this way. Honestly, right now I am looking forward to eventually completing tier4 so I can get out of the level fixation. I don't really want to play this way, but it makes sense within the parameters given.

I do still think that LTQ is more of a 'high level boss thing' because of the skill point issue.

In essence I think you and I see this 99% eye to eye. Ultimately it is moving the game away of being so static.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 01:06 PM
Agreed.

Gree screwed up long ago (well Funzio is responsible for this one), and we are only just moving out of it. But it should be an interesting time - at a minimum the campers in the 90s will start leveling, and we'll have the odd (for this game) situation of free players dominating a part of the game. I personally look forward to the shockwaves that ensue. I also believe that another 1-2 LTQs will see the game shift entirely. Again, greatly anticipated.

zwiswoo
05-11-2013, 01:21 PM
I have a feeling Zeemer wants to encourage the adoption of a heavily LTQ based strategy because he dislikes there being lower level players getting stuff for free that he can't ;)
Otherwise:
- In terms purely of stats (at the point you would get to high levels with a boss event based strategy) it's really a wash.
- It's a one way ratchet - once you're at a high level this event is essentially the only way you can get more items, and you can't come back to getting end items for free on boss events.
- You substitute a quick way of improving stats with a much more tedious one. That's great if you play this for several hours each day (which part of the game dynamics most appeals?), but otherwise even for someone collecting six times a day this is a huge time investment compared to playing "sim city with occasional benefits."

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 01:28 PM
Another point to remember is you can do boss events, even 13-hitting for the second part, while still doing other things. This kind of event is a much bigger time sink for the amount you gain, and not even gold helps find useless buildings. I don't know if I really want to make a phone game the focus of each weekend.

I'm glad there's something to do in the high levels to gain stats but I don't think an event with such massive xp gain is particularly appealing to those lower down, especially when for us it means foreclosing other ways of gaining points - once you're level 101 this time/stamina/energy intensive way is the only one available.

The LTQ is definitely a bigger timesink than boss events, but I would much rather have an event that is time-based as opposed to gold-based. Though I'm feeling pretty stupid wasting gold on collect-10/20s when the stats of these items crush those top-250 items (e.g. even though I did an excellent job minimizing my gold spent getting into the top 250 of the last collect-20, the Classic Roadster (1086/889) probably cost a lot more gold per stats gained than the Hitman's Shotgun for completing HL40.)

If GREE really wanted to stop camping, they'd keep the stats of the boss items where they were (prior to the big jump for the Red Dragon vehicle) while offering better and better prizes for the LTQs.

zwiswoo
05-11-2013, 01:42 PM
The LTQ is definitely a bigger timesink than boss events, but I would much rather have an event that is time-based as opposed to gold-based. Though I'm feeling pretty stupid wasting gold on collect-10/20s when the stats of these items crush those top-250 items (e.g. even though I did an excellent job minimizing my gold spent getting into the top 250 of the last collect-20, the Classic Roadster (1086/889) probably cost a lot more gold per stats gained than the Hitman's Shotgun for completing HL40.)

If GREE really wanted to stop camping, they'd keep the stats of the boss items where they were (prior to the big jump for the Red Dragon vehicle) while offering better and better prizes for the LTQs.

Collect 10s and 20s are a distinct event type entirely - you can play them for free or for gold as you please and collect what you pay for (or not). Levels don't matter there, period.

Here we have a new event type to compete with boss events. LTQ can be done for free by everyone (I think; would love to see how much stamina/energy is needed to get to 40) but quickly makes you a high level player. While if you're a low level player boss events give you the stats and don't level you up rapidly.

I agree with you that making the items on this better than for boss events would be the trick to making this a better option. Or connect the building event to the LTQ - if you finish LTQ you can build a special building or gain an upgrade on the pagoda etc. Right now LTQ-for-high-level-players is (almost) as good as boss-event-for-low-level-players. On the plus side you get 4-5 items that are better than the rares. On the minus side it's really time consuming, plus this business of robbing specific buildings seems stupid.

Bala82
05-11-2013, 02:01 PM
Good night guys see you tomorrow - Green represent what i have done as i progress they eventually turn to green.

Mr T Perfect
05-11-2013, 02:04 PM
Guess i better get my backside to level 40 and camp there - at least i will get the LTQ's and can then cherry pick which ones i do.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 02:27 PM
Collect 10s and 20s are a distinct event type entirely - you can play them for free or for gold as you please and collect what you pay for (or not). Levels don't matter there, period.

Here we have a new event type to compete with boss events. LTQ can be done for free by everyone (I think; would love to see how much stamina/energy is needed to get to 40) but quickly makes you a high level player. While if you're a low level player boss events give you the stats and don't level you up rapidly.

I agree with you that making the items on this better than for boss events would be the trick to making this a better option. Or connect the building event to the LTQ - if you finish LTQ you can build a special building or gain an upgrade on the pagoda etc. Right now LTQ-for-high-level-players is (almost) as good as boss-event-for-low-level-players. On the plus side you get 4-5 items that are better than the rares. On the minus side it's really time consuming, plus this business of robbing specific buildings seems stupid.

I just meant to give the collect-10/20 event as an example of an event that is gold-based, one that is very unlikely to net you any real stats unless you spend a significant amount of gold. There is no way you can get any meaningful stats from a collect-20 without spending gold. In the Construction Crates event with the copper spindles, I spent a huge amount of time maximizing my opens without using timer resets, just using gold opens (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?52704-Construction-Crates&p=737833#post737833), and I spent a little over a vault of gold (1650 gold) getting into the top 250 as cheaply as I could, with 110 gold opens and no timer resets (I did eventually panic a little and spent 210 more gold after the leaderboards froze, but I was safely in the top 250 by that point). Next event I will try to maximize cash opens and only use gold at the end if I need to in order to get the collect-20 item (unless the top 250 prize has a cool modifier or something).

In my opinion I would have gotten a much better return on my gold investment if I had invested that gold into the LTQ instead of the collect-20 was the point I was trying to make, since I'm obviously already investing the time. And if someone is willing to spend gold and not time, they'd be better off purchasing gold items instead. I guess neither of these points are that relevant to a free player.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 02:29 PM
Also for Bala since it's still missing:

HL35:

Map: Auto Row
Jobs: Fancy Car Dealership, Luca Montana, Bruno Genova

OneHoop
05-11-2013, 02:45 PM
Goal 14 also requires 2 houses, in addition to the 35 attacks.

OffensivelyNamedGuy
05-11-2013, 04:34 PM
Crunched some numbers and this is what I got:

Normal Mode: Approximately 40k EXP "quoted by Bala".
Total attk/def - 6998/6366

VS. Last Boss Event

EXP 3890
Total Attk/def- 8575/8425 "varies but this is what I got this time"


Conclusion: Hit man event exp "normal mode" is more than ten times as much for about 15%-20% less stats compared to boss event.

One could conclude that this TLQ hit man event is inferior to boss events bu\y more than 10:1 ratio when exp vs att/def gain is considered.

(edit for bald zeemer) Agreed,Definitely for tier 5 peeps only.

How'd you mange to hit 40 bosses for less than 4000 xp?

Kill0r
05-11-2013, 04:39 PM
1-40 is 4095 XPs.

The real cosmo
05-11-2013, 07:20 PM
Another point to remember is you can do boss events, even 13-hitting for the second part, while still doing other things. This kind of event is a much bigger time sink for the amount you gain, and not even gold helps find useless buildings. I don't know if I really want to make a phone game the focus of each weekend.

I'm glad there's something to do in the high levels to gain stats but I don't think an event with such massive xp gain is particularly appealing to those lower down, especially when for us it means foreclosing other ways of gaining points - once you're level 101 this time/stamina/energy intensive way is the only one available.

I think this the best way to look at it. My syndicate has a lot of high ranking members who can beat a boss about 15 times who will benefit from this event.

I'm doing nothing except upgrading and building a 2nd Pagoda.

ShirleyManson
05-11-2013, 09:14 PM
lvl21 flesh ripper chainsaw 560/640 (melee)
lvl23 hitman guard 480/770
lvl25 cage claw 630/670
lvl27 mounted machine gun 990/638

Dipstik
05-11-2013, 09:24 PM
Why do you seem to know all the odd numbered goals? Don't you have to do them in order?

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 09:38 PM
lucky you i only 3 people attack me but 10 robbery attempt unfortunately there were mostly failed only 2 were successful.

It's now officially out of hand. I went to sleep and my entire news feed got wiped with unsuccessful attacks.


I have a feeling Zeemer wants to encourage the adoption of a heavily LTQ based strategy because he dislikes there being lower level players getting stuff for free that he can't
Otherwise:
- In terms purely of stats (at the point you would get to high levels with a boss event based strategy) it's really a wash.
- It's a one way ratchet - once you're at a high level this event is essentially the only way you can get more items, and you can't come back to getting end items for free on boss events.
- You substitute a quick way of improving stats with a much more tedious one. That's great if you play this for several hours each day (which part of the game dynamics most appeals?), but otherwise even for someone collecting six times a day this is a huge time investment compared to playing "sim city with occasional benefits."

The main factor I think you've left out here is that boss events for campers are finite. Eventually you'll level past 100 (especially with syndicate wars). And once you do you'll come up against players who have gained the superior stats available in LTQs.


For the record, I have no difficulty finishing off tier 5 bosses. ;)


In my opinion I would have gotten a much better return on my gold investment if I had invested that gold into the LTQ instead of the collect-20 was the point I was trying to make, since I'm obviously already investing the time. And if someone is willing to spend gold and not time, they'd be better off purchasing gold items instead. I guess neither of these points are that relevant to a free player.

Very true. The leaderboard evets are extremey inefficient uses of gold. Furthermore, if you are looking for top-25 they become quite time consuming. If you're looking for #1 they become unbelievable time consuming.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 11:23 PM
I can only extrapolate on how many cases you need to get 500 successful opens.

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere so far, but it so far on my Elite goals, the number of rivals to defeat has gone up by ten each time. I'm also suspecting more and more that the building you need to rob is rigged. I can't tell you how many hoods I go to that have two of every single building available to rob, with the one exception being the one that I need to rob. I've been attacking people who have hoods like this just hoping they hit back to get on my newsfeed.

bald zeemer
05-11-2013, 11:27 PM
All robs and PvP are double the normal round.

BigMoney
05-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Blegh. Couldn't remember the number of delis/etc I needed to rob, just that it was as tedious the first time around as it is the second time.

OneHoop
05-11-2013, 11:58 PM
Enzo Speeder at Goal 17 is 212/158, not 212/212.

M@

Fatherllama
05-12-2013, 12:03 AM
Crunched some numbers and this is what I got:

Normal Mode: Approximately 40k EXP "quoted by Bala".
Total attk/def - 6998/6366

VS. Last Boss Event

EXP 3890
Total Attk/def- 8575/8425 "varies but this is what I got this time"


Conclusion: Hit man event exp "normal mode" is more than ten times as much for about 15%-20% less stats compared to boss event.

One could conclude that this TLQ hit man event is inferior to boss events bu\y more than 10:1 ratio when exp vs att/def gain is considered.

(edit for bald zeemer) Agreed,Definitely for tier 5 peeps only.

Damn you, I was halfway through doing this before I saw your post. Good work, though. My original assertion seems to be sticking -- this event isn't worth doing for anyone under level 101.

EDIT: Using conservative estimates, I was coming up with about 10k experience between attacks, robs and quest reward experience based on the numbers posted in this thread. Those are somewhat incomplete, and I hadn't gotten to job experience yet, but I think it would be safe to say you can at least double that 10k. So bare minimum, you're looking at 20k exp for 6998/6312 stats.

BigMoney
05-12-2013, 12:16 AM
Damn you, I was halfway through doing this before I saw your post. Good work, though. My original assertion seems to be sticking -- this event isn't worth doing for anyone under level 101.

EDIT: Using conservative estimates, I was coming up with about 10k experience between attacks, robs and quest reward experience based on the numbers posted in this thread. Those are somewhat incomplete, and I hadn't gotten to job experience yet, but I think it would be safe to say you can at least double that 10k. So bare minimum, you're looking at 20k exp for 6998/6312 stats.

I started just below level 100 (224k XP?), and in the past couple days combining the boss event (to 45) and the LTQ up to Hit List Elite 12 (XP for jobs, XP for robs/attacks, XP for completing HL goals, XP for Thug Lifes, etc) , I'm currently at 271k XP, but both my attack and defense have increased by ~20k each. I doubt that clarifies anything for you, other than that you're probably underestimating the XP involved in the LTQ. Also of note is that I constantly rob for RP during boss events, because I can't stand idling sitting there waiting for my health to return.

moocow
05-12-2013, 01:03 AM
The main factor I think you've left out here is that boss events for campers are finite. Eventually you'll level past 100 (especially with syndicate wars). And once you do you'll come up against players who have gained the superior stats available in LTQs.

For the record, I have no difficulty finishing off tier 5 bosses. ;)
.

It's exactly because they are finite that i think that campers under 100 should try level as slowly as possible. In the long run you will be getting FREE and equivalent or better stats than the LTQ on normal, and for less effort too. Assuming this holds the same for upcoming events...

Boss event at low levels:
8k A/D and 4k XP. Boss can be farmed. Event is completely FREE with high attack

LTQ normal:
7k stats and a whopping 40k+ exp. Low levels and those with bad allocation of skill points will struggle greatly due energy/stam req. Usage of gold is also wasted if energy is below 1k and stam under 50. Completion of event is also very tedious and time consuming.

So yes in essence this event has a balancing effect on everyone; as stated high levels finally have their own "boss event". Since most 101+ Players have attack in the range of 100-200k they need to spend at the very min 1k-2.5k gold just to complete the tier 5 boss. In the end, lower levels and 101+ will basically get similar stat boosts because they are inherently better at their own events. The advantage of boss killing is that it is easier, completely free and farmable.

However, if you are a moderate-heavy gold user and have fantastic stats then the above may not hold true. You are better off finishing elite LTQ and possibly killing tier 5 boss with no gold. This will reward you with the most amount of stats in total; being high level in this case is advantageous as you will pull away from the lower levels due to completing both. Then again, not many players have 850k+ attack or are gold spenders, so for free and casual players camping is still attractive. Bottom line is LTQ benefits high levels, gold spenders and weak lower levels who can't kill the boss.

BigMoney
05-12-2013, 02:50 AM
Bottom line is LTQ benefits high levels, gold spenders and weak lower levels who can't kill the boss.

In other words, everyone who is not camping.

Vito Corleone
05-12-2013, 04:27 AM
This event is so frustrating....because your'e dependent on things you cannot control. Like finding Gun Shops in rivals hood which are up to grab and haven't been collected or robbed. At least for the old PvP events the one that tapped the most won. Here it's too much luck and you cannot compensate with gold either for this uncertainty.

scott(ST6)
05-12-2013, 04:43 AM
All robs and PvP are double the normal round.

Does the energy for jobs required double too?

bald zeemer
05-12-2013, 05:18 AM
No, jobs are identical.

kerching
05-12-2013, 05:52 AM
There's no way I'm going to be able to finish this event :( I can only really do two PVEs per day:

54 seconds to reload 3 energy = 300 mins to get 1000 energy = 5 hours.

PVP events are fine but PVE are annoying! I'm around lvl 22 now.

Zedsta
05-12-2013, 06:58 AM
I'm just about to finish level 32. I been luck to find my rob buildings
fast. But don't think ill make it to 40 tho.

cditti
05-12-2013, 07:28 AM
This event is one of the most pain in the but. Not hard just insane to find things.

Bala82
05-12-2013, 10:44 AM
Today i only managed goal 22-25 -it's getting tougher maps require more energy than i have waiting 3 hours for recovery has slow down my progress. As free player look like i end up reaching goal 30 by deadline.

OffensivelyNamedGuy
05-12-2013, 10:47 AM
1-40 is 4095 XPs.

Don't know where you guys are getting your numbers, it's 4300 XP to defeat 40, plus at minimum another 40 xp for triggering (assuming it works first time.. I usually waste another 15 xp or so trying to get that first boss to appear)

marshmall
05-12-2013, 11:34 AM
It took a while but now the car is where it belongs... in my garage :)

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s619/marshmall33/Crime%20City/Event/Limited%20Time%20Quest/The%20Hit%20List/Elite/ae59031f-a25b-4c12-a361-f788193bc998_zps0443e2e2.jpg

Bala82
05-12-2013, 11:41 AM
It took a while but now the car is where it belongs... in my garage :)

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s619/marshmall33/Crime%20City/Event/Limited%20Time%20Quest/The%20Hit%20List/Elite/ae59031f-a25b-4c12-a361-f788193bc998_zps0443e2e2.jpg

Well done :cool:

KemoKidd
05-12-2013, 12:32 PM
So you get the Hitman's Rifle AND the car? Wow. Im on 33 and I know I will finish it on time. Between this and leveling up the Pagoda building (Ill have it to 7 by the events end) my stats have greatly increased!

Ben Weston
05-12-2013, 12:33 PM
I wish there was a counter on how many hoods we visited, those of us above 200 will have crazy high numbers during this event if i'm anything to go by!

[FwD] J1M H3N50N
05-12-2013, 12:43 PM
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh310/steveyboy419/E59805E5-E74D-43D4-A5E9-06139E9BBA31-12718-00000D3551ABA50C_zps5f5eded8.jpg
finished

Ben Weston
05-12-2013, 01:38 PM
just found my first fish store available to rob in 4 hours of gameplay and the player had defence stats 5x that of my attack, great job of engaging CUSTOMERS in the game and making it an enjoyable experience..............

Vito Corleone
05-12-2013, 02:09 PM
It took a while but now the car is where it belongs... in my garage :)

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s619/marshmall33/Crime%20City/Event/Limited%20Time%20Quest/The%20Hit%20List/Elite/ae59031f-a25b-4c12-a361-f788193bc998_zps0443e2e2.jpg
Congrats Marsh! There aren't many players that are as dedicated as you and so good at tapping. Hope you had time to get some sun today.:)

Leopold Stotch
05-12-2013, 02:54 PM
I cant find any freaking gas stations to rob, i am level 169 and no one has any !! arghhhh

Dipstik
05-12-2013, 04:15 PM
Fish stores? Are you kidding me?

Da_Boss
05-12-2013, 09:53 PM
So do you get the car and a shotgun at lvl 40?

BigMoney
05-12-2013, 10:00 PM
So you get the Hitman's Rifle AND the car? Wow. Im on 33 and I know I will finish it on time. Between this and leveling up the Pagoda building (Ill have it to 7 by the events end) my stats have greatly increased!

So do you get the car and a shotgun at lvl 40?

No to both. You get the Hitman's Shotgun (2200/2000) for completing the normal Hitlist, the first 40 missions. After you do that, you can start Hitlist Elite, which is the same 40 jobs, except all the PvP jobs are doubled (e.g. HL26 Defeat 65 rivals, rob 10 Chinese restaurants becomes HLE26 Defeat 130 rivals, rob 20 Chinese restaurants). You must complete Hitlist Elite to get the Hitman's Ride advertised on the splash screen.

teo
05-12-2013, 10:35 PM
Another point to remember is you can do boss events, even 13-hitting for the second part, while still doing other things. This kind of event is a much bigger time sink for the amount you gain, and not even gold helps find useless buildings. I don't know if I really want to make a phone game the focus of each weekend.

I'm glad there's something to do in the high levels to gain stats but I don't think an event with such massive xp gain is particularly appealing to those lower down, especially when for us it means foreclosing other ways of gaining points - once you're level 101 this time/stamina/energy intensive way is the only one available.

I missed this earlier on in this discussion; Very important point. Seeing how much time fellow syn members are sinking into this event the time component is very strongly in favor of continuing to focus on boss if that is an option. I have plenty on my hands with syn work, I definitely do not need another big time sink. The Xp consideration has been discussed plenty; I opted out early for this very reason that zwiswoo is mentioning.

With the rabid pace of events, it is clearly coming to the point too that not only gold/no gold is important. How much RL time required is becoming increasingly important.

New metric: Stat gain/RLT (Real Life Time)

Goes without saying that LTQ is 'expensive'...

(CK) EL
05-13-2013, 01:40 AM
normal mode
lev1/melee/ Assasin Tonfas 29/20
lev3/melee/ Deadly Shuriken 42/27
lev5/gun/ Siege launcher 70/42
lev7/gun/ Cheytac Sniper Rifle 85/64
lev9/gun/ Bloody Retribution 124/60
lev11/armor/ Titanium Faceguard 62/168
lev13/gun/pump launcher 155/120
lev15/armor/cyclops Night Vision 139/194
lev17/car/Enzo Speeder 212/158
lev19/explosive/Steel Granades 294/141
lev21/gun/Browning 160/319
lev23/gun/Sharpshooter's Rifle 300/210
lev25/car/Stolen Concept Car 285/234
lev27/car/Mob Limo 240/355
lev29/explosive/Timed Explosived 250/371
lev31/car/silver Streak 360/310
lev33/car/Boss' Limo 290/440
lev35/gun/Cobra Elite Rifle 460/330
lev37/car/Prototype Speedster 492/318
lev39/explosive/TNT blaster Bomb 749/431
lev40/gun/Hitman's S 2200/2000

elite mode
lev1/gun/infiltrator shotgun 37/21
lev3/armor/reinforced ballistic armor 40/73
lev5/armor/assasin's coat 55/126
lev7/gun/anti-air missile launcher 143/106
lev9/gun/laser rifle 178/162
lev11/explosive/hideout blaster 140/335
lev13/car/midnight sports car 330/270
lev15/gun/frenzy sniper rifle 440/355
lev17/gun/silent justice 443/511
lev19/gun/arp 20x 720/388
lev21/melee/flesh ripper chainsaw 560/640
lev23/armor/hitman guard 480/770
lev25/melee/cage claw 630/670
lev27/gun/mounted machine gun 990/638
lev29/gun/Hitman Silencer 800/900
lev31/armor/Cage Gloves 722/1028
lev33/car/Dark Bandit 950/850
lev35/gun/Hitman's Scope 1100/750
lev37/explosive/Thermo-Bomb 800/1100
lev39/gun/Elite Prototype Rifle 1400/1564
lev40/car/hitman's Ride 3700/2630

bald zeemer
05-13-2013, 02:48 AM
My stats skyrocketed near the end. Sure, it was time intensive - but I could've taken twice as long and put in half the effort. Minimal gold spend, enormous stats.

Yes, I'd prefer pure PvP be brought back, and LTQ become PvE, but I'll definitely be playing them no matter the format.

scott(ST6)
05-13-2013, 05:29 AM
looks like its 21,656 attack and 20,199 defense total. I'm on level 18 of elite and it looks like i'll be able to finish with spending less than a vault. Well worth it.

itsshooter
05-13-2013, 08:07 AM
I have all the low garbage buildings due to the fact I havnt revamped my hood yet. Im level 201 and my name I. The game is shooter. If anyone on here finds me and u need ro rob a certain building msg me and ill let u know when u can rob it.

KemoKidd
05-13-2013, 09:08 AM
I was just feeling like this was the best event for me in a while. The 10/20 item events are growing stale and are dominated by big spenders. PvP is boring because you just keep clicking a button. I actually enjoyed hood hopping trying to find an available building to rob. I also haven't completed a PvE in forever so that was refreshing.

Then I realized it was too good to be true because YOU HAVE TO DO IT TWICE FOR THE CAR!!!!! Really?! Not explained in the splash screen! False advertisement? If I would have known I would have done it more rapidly instead of pacing myself to completing the first 40 goals using a minimal amount of gold. I should have known Gree was too greedy to let that fly!

groovdog
05-13-2013, 09:16 AM
I was just feeling like this was the best event for me in a while. The 10/20 item events are growing stale and are dominated by big spenders. PvP is boring because you just keep clicking a button. I actually enjoyed hood hopping trying to find an available building to rob. I also haven't completed a PvE in forever so that was refreshing.

Then I realized it was too good to be true because YOU HAVE TO DO IT TWICE FOR THE CAR!!!!! Really?! Not explained in the splash screen! False advertisement? If I would have known I would have done it more rapidly instead of pacing myself to completing the first 40 goals using a minimal amount of gold. I should have known Gree was too greedy to let that fly!Not like it wasnt mentioned 100 times in threads here and it says ELITE....

djesus
05-13-2013, 09:26 AM
I would've been done with this by now, but as usual CC crashes on almost every hood i visit

Bala82
05-13-2013, 09:28 AM
Look like i go get goal 30 as free player without gold :(

so close yet so far would been happy just first round

itsshooter
05-13-2013, 09:53 AM
I just finished the first 40 as a free player. I wont get to 40 on elite but I will get some decent items. I suggest also for the guys waiting for stamina go to ur next map place and start doing the jobs so your not wasting energy while u wait for stamina

Danimal247
05-13-2013, 10:00 AM
I just finished the first 40 as a free player. I wont get to 40 on elite but I will get some decent items. I suggest also for the guys waiting for stamina go to ur next map place and start doing the jobs so your not wasting energy while u wait for stamina

what do you mean? I find i have to wait for my energy to rebuild so why would I use it on another map place?

I hope I can make 40

itsshooter
05-13-2013, 10:04 AM
I mean that if your energy bar is full go start th next set of jobs. But dont finished them do them like 4 out of 5 or whatever. At some point u may be waiting on stamina and ur energy bar will be full so why lose the enrrgy by waiting

Bala82
05-13-2013, 10:07 AM
It's tough getting to 40 if you don't have much stamina - I suppose we get bonus chest event starting on time so instead of hunting boxes we get them when attempt hit list goal targets.

itsshooter
05-13-2013, 10:14 AM
My tip sounds like it will help u than bala if your always waiting for stamina

Bala82
05-13-2013, 10:38 AM
My tip sounds like it will help u than bala if your always waiting for stamina

Yes it helps but now i waiting both my energy and stamina to refill.

When i did one way energy will fill up while i was doing other fight goal.

I like attempting one goal at a time . it avoids confusion

Danimal247
05-13-2013, 11:02 AM
how much energy do you guys have who have beat it free?

itsshooter
05-13-2013, 12:59 PM
3400 energy and 65 stamina

Bala82
05-13-2013, 01:11 PM
3400 energy and 65 stamina

Wow i have half that :(

scott(ST6)
05-13-2013, 01:35 PM
i have 1500 energy and 50 stamina, used about 400 gold getting through first round, made it to level 20 on elite so far with no gold.

itsshooter
05-13-2013, 01:36 PM
In my opinion there is only 2 things to spend ur stat points on energy or stamina the attack and defense are useless. If I used all my points on attack it would only raise my attack by 600 at level 200 so whats the point.

murf
05-13-2013, 01:36 PM
I mean that if your energy bar is full go start th next set of jobs. But dont finished them do them like 4 out of 5 or whatever. At some point u may be waiting on stamina and ur energy bar will be full so why lose the enrrgy by waiting

You are spot on, but I'm surprised this needs to be said...seems like common sense to me.

dgwalker
05-13-2013, 04:20 PM
What is 10 MT?




I am trying doing this in one topic,

Goal 40: 100 rivals and 10 MT

BigMoney
05-13-2013, 04:29 PM
i have 1500 energy and 50 stamina, used about 400 gold getting through first round, made it to level 20 on elite so far with no gold.

That's because those first ten maps don't take much energy. The energy requirement should stay the same, but now I've had to spend a bit on stamina refills as well (I also have 50 stamina). Hitlist takes 550 rivals, but Hitlist Elite is 2100 rivals!


What is 10 MT?

Movie Theaters

Edit: Also, I'm 95% sure HL40 was 100 rivals and 5 MTs, not 10. I can't remember anymore but I remember being relieved that it was easier than I thought.

Jskirby
05-13-2013, 05:13 PM
Sounds crazy....what kind of house do they mean in the hit list?.....just can't seem to find one that registers.

Dipstik
05-13-2013, 05:30 PM
What did you do? Mug Hugh Laurie?

#smug

Gambit12
05-13-2013, 07:16 PM
I got stuck at Goal 2 cause i couldn't find a Laundromat anywhere. What a sorry Limited Time Event..:mad:

in-game j
05-13-2013, 07:49 PM
Um, did this event just repeat itself - got to 40, and now i get to do this all over again?

in-game j
05-13-2013, 07:50 PM
omg i totally got suckered into this - can't believe you have to do this twice over to win the car - wow. they got me good

Swedevil
05-13-2013, 08:14 PM
omg i totally got suckered into this - can't believe you have to do this twice over to win the car - wow. they got me good


Um, did this event just repeat itself - got to 40, and now i get to do this all over again?
It's the normal and elite mode. Elite mode is more worth it in terms of items you get. but you have to beat both modes to get the car. It actually said to beat elite mode on the splash screen



Sounds crazy....what kind of house do they mean in the hit list?.....just can't seem to find one that registers.
Look at your hood or in your money buildings. There is a red building. It's like 3-4 stories... that's a house!

BigMoney
05-13-2013, 08:55 PM
Um, did this event just repeat itself - got to 40, and now i get to do this all over again?

Yeah, but the second time around, you start getting much better items each time you complete a map mission.

Leezygeezer
05-14-2013, 05:06 AM
Got to elite 20 with only 20 gold spent on stamina refills :) my preparations worked better than my expectations, only 10 tj gold left so I'll be hitting tj good tonight! Might get to 24......
Oh I have 2360 energy and 81 stamina

WTYS1987
05-14-2013, 05:54 AM
Hi everyone,

The normal level 40 was win 100 PVP and rob 5 MTs.
Elite Level 40 is win 200 PVP and rob 10 MTs.:o