Stats during Attack/ Weird Losses

[Jerle]

Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.

[Auspex]

Thanks for the heads up Jerle


Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code ... ...before it's sent out again.

I think every player has tried to establish a strategy for their level based on the way the game is currently working. It makes it a bit painful if you wake up and find keeping low ally counts doesn't do jack.

although changes need to be made from time to time to close possible game exploits and hacks, which we do appreciate, would it be possible to have a test server set up so we can do actual bug reports to you before it is unleashed on the general public.

I've participated in several closed test servers before. You take your character in lose and gain nothing but can do all the pvp pve you want. Everything gained or lost in the test server is just there til you log out and back to your regular game.

It was always fun to go head to head with buddies and great for catching bugs early.

[CJ D]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fl@sh]

Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.I am either calling BS, or this person is a hacker. I submitted a report for you guys to handle. This is on a raid attempt within the last 5 minutes.

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/natch82/media/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg.html)

[Warrenisit1]

So we reverted from a broken version to another broken version? This problem with the way we see our stats has been ongoing for many months without a peep from moderators that a fix is near or even being worked on. Please fix the way we see our stats. There is no reason we should see our stats five different ways.

[Poopenshire]

Nice QA/QC on that one! I hope someone got sent home early.

[fuzzlenutz]

What TOOL did you use to black out the names?







I am either calling BS, or this person is a hacker. I submitted a report for you guys to handle. This is on a raid attempt within the last 5 minutes.

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/natch82/media/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg.html)

[Fl@sh]

What TOOL did you use to black out the names?Photobucket

[BigD@wg]

So are you saying the only problem was with the strange attack results? What about the fact that it only matches you with stronger rivals?!?! I hope that you realize no one wants a change to the rivals list. We want it back to the way it originally was before it was screwed with a month ago.

The new algorithms are flawed. People are not going to buy more gold just because you continuously match them with stronger players in that list.

[Paisthecoolest]

Thank you for the quick response and communication.

[mxz]

So are you saying the only problem was with the strange attack results? What about the fact that it only matches you with stronger rivals?!?! I hope that you realize no one wants a change to the rivals list. We want it back to the way it originally was before it was screwed with a month ago.

The new algorithms are flawed. People are not going to buy more gold just because you continuously match them with stronger players in that list.I think it's a little more even, now. From what I can tell about 25% are lower stats, 25% similar stats, and 50% higher. It's actually pretty nifty. Shows who you should aspire to be like but doesn't let you rain hell on people with 1 ally.

[Selfproclaimed]

Are we to expect to see you more here in the forums super moderator?

[I am a cow]

You have better, otherwise you will get angry tickets from 150 people from my ally list and faction

[JCL]

Glad for the message. Yesterday was really screwy on rivals lists. It seemed 1/2 were abandoned accounts with nothing except defense buildings left to raid, and the 1/2 were insanely above my level (81, 51k Def/49k Attk) with the average about double my stats. There's no way at 49k, I'm attacking 100-150k defense rivals.

[Zachio]

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!


try{
var attack = plyr.getAttack();
var rivalD = rival.getDefense();

if(attack > rivalD)
win();
else
lose();

}catch{
alert("gree error, shocker!")
}

var attack, defense;

function getAttack(){
return attack;
}

function getDefense(){
return defense;
}

function setAttack(player){
defense = getUnitTotals() + SIMPLE MATH FOR BOOST;
}

function setDefense(player){
attack = getUnitTotals() + SIMPLE MATH FOR BOOST;
}

[Ryans67]

I loved the list for the hour it was broken. Could see people my stats. Otherwise, I beat up on wimps. That's nice for camping, but I'd rather face some equal rivals.

[Clownius]

I posted this in another thread when the rivals issue was around too but i have some serious stats issues since the update rolled out for the Boss event.

Level 159 with 500+ allies
Attack 530,467 (as i see it) 320,361 (as others see it)
Defence 887,152 (as i see it) 401,379 (as others see it)

The problem is im attacking and hitting from 220-360k. 360k is rare as hell a good 90% of my attacks are lower than my unboosted stats never mind all the boosts i have.

I regularly loose fights vs people with 150k stats. They are defending over 300k more often than not.

Its kinda disturbing when your hitting guys with 1/3 the stats you see and loosing on a regular basis. Please guys this needs fixing.

[solo.modernwar]

Gree, I have a really super-crazy idea... it's called "beta test" (model-based oracle).

[Fazhang]

Old old rival list back please

[Mcdoc]

Just happy to see some acknowledgment :) - About 2 months ago - it appeared that we were seeing the raw numbers - including the effect of the skill points - that seemed to be the most consistent & fair (fun) play we have seen since the beginning.

I think if you are able to look at your ticket volume - you would probably see a dip concerning the battle results during the time frame I am talking about.

[Natjo]

I'm scratching my head here. When I was scrolling through the rivals list today, it was like everyone's A/D scores tripled overnight -- but not mine :( I'm trying to understand why I couldn't see all these tough opponents before, but now I could? What was Gree's algorithm before? I know I've seen both tougher and weaker opponents before. Did it somehow ensure that the median A/D of our rivals was around our player A/D? If that's the case, then: Wow, there are a lot more tough players out there than I previously thought!

[Tito89]

this thing caused me to miss out on getting my faction of 3 its first ever unit, i made the faction 4 days before ireland, the blackwater guard, i had a total of 42 losses, at least 20 from attacking weaker players and losing, we missed the top 4000 by 1836 points. i got a minimum of 180 battle points per attack, you do the math. i left for the faction on my signature, they never have problems.

[Justdavew32]

How's this for an idea! Why not before each data push let us know its going to happen and what is included in it. Just like this sticky for the apology for the mess. It's not that hard.

[Viperpv]

If this is fixed how did I just loss to someone with half my stats?

[fuzzlenutz]

This isn't fixed it is exactly the same for me
No difference at all and I am losing BP units cash just trying to trigger the boss,let alone normal game play.
Well my game is ruined guess I will do something else!

[Joh]

Same for me also, still losing to guys 100k below my attack

[Andrei]

100k? :) I'm losing to 400k below! Lol
Morewise, I'm losing them even if my defense is 500k higher than their attack

[Stacey]

I am still seeing some losses that would not normally be losses.

[Warrenisit1]

Exactly what this guy said!! Fix the way we see our stats!! If I see 140K att I shouldn't be swinging with 65K EVER! These screwed up stats mess with a lot of sh$%. Why spend gold on a game when the developers won't fix, let alone, acknowledge a major issue affecting every person on an Android device?


I posted this in another thread when the rivals issue was around too but i have some serious stats issues since the update rolled out for the Boss event.

Level 159 with 500+ allies
Attack 530,467 (as i see it) 320,361 (as others see it)
Defence 887,152 (as i see it) 401,379 (as others see it)

The problem is im attacking and hitting from 220-360k. 360k is rare as hell a good 90% of my attacks are lower than my unboosted stats never mind all the boosts i have.

I regularly loose fights vs people with 150k stats. They are defending over 300k more often than not.

Its kinda disturbing when your hitting guys with 1/3 the stats you see and loosing on a regular basis. Please guys this needs fixing.

[Fivestars02]

Hei GREE matter is still ongoing I have sent 3 ticket in half day

[PIRATE JUSTICE]

I've carefully studied that result. I think your opponent was able to smear your name and his name using some popular photo effect product.
I am either calling BS, or this person is a hacker. I submitted a report for you guys to handle. This is on a raid attempt within the last 5 minutes.http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/natch82/media/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg.html)

[Shawshank]

The new way is worse. The last hr has been a nightmare of loses that should have been wins. I have screenshots to prove it. 140k losing to 18k.

[Warrenisit1]

Your "revert" didn't help so what's the next step to correct this problem?


Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.

[Selfproclaimed]

When is this issue going to be fixed??? And I'm a little confused , you reverted to the code that IS causing problems and is reviewing the data. So your using all of us as test bunnies?? Isnt their supposed to be beta testing for such issues...

[Trebor]

We are the beta testers ! There making so much on us they don't test just throw it out there! We test it they dont fix it

[Corsair]

100k? :) I'm losing to 400k below! Lol
Morewise, I'm losing them even if my defense is 500k higher than their attackWell, if you are that Andrei, this is good news to me. :D

With the increase in vaults and limitations on number of attacks, I have pretty much given up on PvP as a revenue source. Takes way too much time anymore, unless you are strong enough to just run the list. I don't spend on my army like many do, I just get what I can through events, but even that is barely cutting it during WD events. 100k lower is minimum. Doesn't make much sense.

I suspect this all ties back to the current stat inflation and Gree stumbling around trying to tweak the algorithm to match. Everyone got used to the old style, now we have more stat numbers that make less sense than they used to. Faction view vs. ally view vs. your view vs. attack view vs. raid view. All different. Ridiculous. Gree should explain more but they want "a degree of mystery" about the whole thing. Really, that is what they said. Clue free, as usual.

[Joker/J]

I am encouraging everyone in my faction to not spend another dime with Gree until they fix this. We can complain all we want, but until they start losing thousands by players boycotting gold purchases, they won't care and will continue to send canned responses to problem tickets about random chance. So I am asking everyone who has been having this problem to boycott gold purchases and spread the word to their factions. After a couple of days of choking on unsold gold, they will fix it.

[Bobar]

some of my faction mates start thinking about getting rid of the game due to this issue. never got so many attacks since the last days, loosing a lot of high value units.

not good to see lvl 127 up to lvl 154 players as a lvl 134 player.

[paul49100]

Hello everyone
Just a question, could part of this wierd win loss issue be carried into the boss rounds in columbia. I am lvl 30 and fought 20 lvls that became difficult quick. My friend was a lvl 28 and is winning very easily. My stats were better than his and he is on boss lvl 27. Could there be a difference in units carried. I have quite a few gold units he has none. Just wounding if anyone has any input on what it could be. Thanks

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[CRAWFORD]

Why would you guys do this? I agree. I have had a couple people I know quit the game. A shame really, they were big spenders. Gree.... you are screwing stuff up... why? Why? I feel you guys thought of some clever way to make the game more interesting... well... you guys screwed the pooch on this one.

[CRAWFORD]

Just a friendly reminder.... you guys need to fix this before Columbia. There is no way in hell this game will be playable. This could essentially ruin this game if you don't fix this problem. Whatever was get tried to be done was real dumb. You guys are insane, putting this game in jepordy like this.

[Joh]

Are you guys going to give us a free upgrade for the new building cause even though my IPH is up to 800k that is still not enough to save 150 million for the next upgrade, the bulk of my money comes from raiding and attacking so maybe extending the upgrade missions by another week or give us some good money scratchers or somthing to suplement the money cause even though I won't get it to 10 I'd still like to try to get it to 5

[JhdjrbOBO]

It seems to me to be better today. yesterday i lost to players with half my stats. today Im only losing to players with within 30K my stats. still broken but b e t t e r??

[Andrei]

I'm losing to 200k below

[Generik79]

The major problem here is not the rivals list. It is the weird losses as Flash said. It's pretty ridiculous.

[People's Front of Judea G]

I have sent a protest email to Gree and got the usual trite condescending response back explaining how all the multipliers and different stats views were obviously confusing me. For a 30-40 k difference I might have agreed, but really Gree??? How the hell could that possibly explain losing to someone with both 300k less stats and who is less than 50% of your stats on repeated occasions?? No multiplier out there can possibly explain that.

There was no problem with the attack algorithm before Ireland, now it is riddled with problems. Gree has obviously fouled up something in the event update and now has egg all over their faces. Why do they keep tinkering with things? Ever heard of the axiom if it ain't broke, don't fix it?

All the gold spending members of our faction are unanimous in boycotting Gree until the problem has been rectified. Hit them in the only place they pay attention. Join the growing number of factions boycotting until they have it sorted out. Why spend hard earned money on gold to better your stats only for Gree to come along and render them meaningless through flawed coding? It doesn't even make sense for Gree - wheres the incentive to buy gold if its useless?

C'mon Gree, make the game fun again with a system that works rather than just a crap shoot.

[Lighthill]

http://i.imgur.com/pU7KPk1.jpg

Price for Santa Marta showing 70 million now for me, also, but not for other faction members. :P

[mktwchr]

Just a friendly reminder.... you guys need to fix this before Columbia. There is no way in hell this game will be playable. This could essentially ruin this game if you don't fix this problem. Whatever was get tried to be done was real dumb. You guys are insane, putting this game in jepordy like this.

Good email crawford...I've bought a good amount of gold to boost my stats...not giving them another dime until they get this fixed...when I lose to people 30, 40, even 50% lower than me...that's not fair. They must have really screwed up their code somehow...this game used to be fun, now it's becoming very frustrating.:mad:

[heal]

Can I have my 10 million back that I was about to use on a Train Station, and also my missing gold that's disappeared from my account.

[sraghav42]

http://i.imgur.com/pU7KPk1.jpg

Price for Santa Marta showing 70 million now for me, also, but not for other faction members. :P
Oops someone having great trouble

[arvena]

This morning I have noticed that all my faction related bonuses disapear! Only the personal stayed. Hence my attack - defence score went substentualy low! what is going on???

[arvena]

Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.

I have noticed that all my faction related bonuses are gone! My Atack - Defence score went low! What is going on???

[mgriss]

Android player... I don't have the problem of battle results screens showing a loss with my victim's defense significantly lower than my attack... but what I DO have is battle results screens showing rival's defense as 100-300% higher than their profile showed me. I.E. their profile shows 100k def then the battle results screen shows 250k def.

SO.... I've taken it upon myself to send a ticket reporting a skill points hacker every time this happens (which is several times daily). Just trying to do my part.

[Harrison]

I am either calling BS, or this person is a hacker. I submitted a report for you guys to handle. This is on a raid attempt within the last 5 minutes.

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/natch82/media/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg.html)

Same thing has happened on numerous occasions in last two days!!! WTFO?

[4th Reich]

I'm having the same problem! I updated the game this morning and ever since my faction bonuses have dissapeared... anyone know anything about it? Very annoying.

[JAG Slayer]

I noticed the same thing about 2 hours ago, I am an android user. I have opend a ticket with Gree but havent heard anything yet. On top of not having my current faction bonuses, I am recieving Attack bonuses which my faction doesnt have at this time. My defense went down more than 25K since this happend.

I also have noticed that when I attack someone and it says they have 350 allies, when I lose I see they have 520 allies in their profile.

[mistergreen]

I just lost to a guy 80K vs. 60K whose #1 unit is in the 300s. My #1 unit is in the 2000s. Clearly something is still broken.

[Devils Advocate]

same here..just checked rival stats..my att 32k his def 23k same amount of units..same level. nothing in his inventory that stands out and I have a lot of decent big guns from PVE etc..--hit him up...I lose..my att used 21k his def 36k..how the Fxxk does that work...this is about the 6th tiime in he last 2 days this kind of thing has happened...

[kevinnn]

The attack results were not correct before this update? I don't know what u are thinking? LOL I lost before against people with way off my own stats

So Talk ahead...

[LeBarticus]

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/natch82/media/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg.html)


Okay so
a.) did you MEAN to draw penises on your photo for all to subconsciously digest?

b.) on a more serious note, I have also been losing to players with muuuch much less defense than I have attack. Especially within the last few days. C'mon GREE.

[catscan66]

I found out I lost 30 percent from my defense after attacking some lower level without losses. Cant explain an 18000 defense point loss for no apparent reason. Sent ticket but with things screwed up who knows when it might get fixed.

[4th Reich]

I sent an email regarding the recent screw up of all of our faction bonuses and this is the email I got back. Hope it helps a little.


"A display glitch has been found by our developers, which will be fixed in a new update. The update will be available from Google Play in the next couple of hours. I apologize about the inconvenience caused by this, but we appreciate your continued patience!"

[Joh]

Yeah just took the new update for a run and attacking a player 100k lower than me I still lost 4 out of 10 times

[Yankster]

New update for iOS or version 3.6.1 .. Only change I noticed is the .1 after 6..... Aside from that still loosing to players with as much as 60 - 70% of stats.. Maybe I need to use more gold....

[Fellenbaum]

I personally do not like the fact that 95% of the people in my Rivals list have about 20k more atk/def than I do, and I have to spend an hour searching for one person to waste all my stamina on -- quite annoying. My 2 Cents -- I liked how it was before Ireland IMO

[DunkNL]

I personally do not like the fact that 95% of the people in my Rivals list have about 20k more atk/def than I do, and I have to spend an hour searching for one person to waste all my stamina on -- quite annoying. My 2 Cents -- I liked how it was before Ireland IMO
Exactly the same here. I hate it.

[mistergreen]

And what happened with the rival list and allies? My LLP has 20 allies and I'm seeing players with 200 allies on my rival list.

[Wheeler]

I've got it figured out gree was making too much money off us and felt bad. so they made it so it doesn't really matter how much money or time you've spent or even what your stats are compared to the other player all that matters is your skill points.

[NaRciS]

One of my members has updated again today, he just lost the following battle
He is level 65 attack 29,305 166 allies units used 664
Lost to level 67 1 allies 2,964 defence, 4 units although none are shown.
He is losing constantly against weird players....

Shame

[CorporateNinja]

Stat Issue Email Update, I thought I would share an email I received on the loss of stats issue tonight... this might help those of you who might have lost it 30 percent or more loss in stats as well...


"A recent update has resolved a display glitch on the profile. Previously, boosts were not being properly displayed, which gave an inflated appearance to both attack and defense stats on the profile page. Your actual stats as recorded on our server and used in battles have not changed. Attack and defense stats are now correctly displayed on your profile. I apologize for any confusion caused by this. May 08 14:57 (PDT):"

[roblupi]

My defensive stats dropped 10k, as well as others in my faction complaining of the same problem. I'm also experiencing the same issues with the rivals list. Email ticket has been sent. It's very hard to justify spending real-world money on a game that constantly freezes my phone, and has issues such as this. As much as I enjoy this game, constant problems like this make me almost delete it.

[lightning strikes]

Lost 50k defence from 135k to 72k. My friends saw 85k def and I see only 72. Next day I had 85k. Wrote Gree support. Next day they replied: problem solved but I still miss 50k defence.

[Rauston]

What is the whole deal with stat variance in the first place? Every item shows fixed stats, not a stat range. Why is it not just the sum of your best units up to max from your level/allies + bonuses applied to that fixed sum? Even before I started losing to people with half my stats I would occasionally lose to someone because of variations over 20% from one attack to the next. It's pretty ridiculous to have, lets say, 100k attack and fight someone with 80k defense then have it show you with 80k attack and your rival with 90k defense.

Why is it seriously not just 100k > 80k so you win? I know that skill points play a background role but that is beside the point.

Simpler in this case, as with most cases, would be significantly better.

[sraghav42]

Whenever I attack someone close to my stats I lose the fight. I have 60k att and whenever I attack someone with about 57k or 58k def I lose wth

[Business Time 7]

I have the same issue. It started after Ireland. I have 56k attack. If I attack someone with more than 35k defense, I lose about half of the time. So frustrating, I'm stuck attacking opponents who don't reward many battle points or other rewards. I'm not a large gold buyer, but I will not buy any more until this issue is fixed.

I understand the idea of random chance allowing a win, but not with a %60 difference in stats. And not half the time. Come on GREE, this is the core of your game.

[NaRciS]

As i mentioned, one of my faction members lost with 30,000 attack 166 allies to 2,900 defence 4 allies, this was one of the few they could attack on there rivals list which is still completely different to everyone else's in the faction.

[ZDUBYA]

As i mentioned, one of my faction members lost with 30,000 attack 166 allies to 2,900 defence 4 allies, this was one of the few they could attack on there rivals list which is still completely different to everyone else's in the faction.

+1 to NaRciS. Can't understand why this is still going on?

[Philsbase]

This problem is still ongoing lost to a defence 6 out of 12 battles his defence was 600k less!

[HunterKiller]

I am regularly losing to people half my stats, pretty annoying how stats seem to have nothing to do with the outcome of wars now, all seems to be down to luck!

[Clownius]

After the Android Bugs that have lead to my stats going up and down like a yoyo after each and every update in really jaded at this point.

Im still looking attacks to people half my stats. Im sick of having even according to Gree stats somewhere between 350k (what others see) and 410k (what i see now although this varies a lot) and hitting for 260k more often than not.

I never see my opponents hitting below the stats i see of theirs. In fact i often see them hit up to double the stats i see. yet i generally hit below the stats other people see on my account.

But even more fun is i can get one of my rare attacks close to 400k in and still loose when the other person defends at 200k...........

Gree stats need to make something resembling sense. Whatever system your using is still seriously broken

[Dutchie]

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!


try{
var attack = plyr.getAttack();
var rivalD = rival.getDefense();

if(attack > rivalD)
win();
else
lose();

}catch{
alert("gree error, shocker!")
}

var attack, defense;

function getAttack(){
return attack;
}

function getDefense(){
return defense;
}

function setAttack(player){
defense = getUnitTotals() + SIMPLE MATH FOR BOOST;
}

function setDefense(player){
attack = getUnitTotals() + SIMPLE MATH FOR BOOST;
}

It is so hard for them because GREE's spaghetti code is such a mess through their adhoc methodology rather than using agile, the developers just open up a can of worms each time they go near the code. They don't have proper QA in place either and rely on some beta testers from the outside to report on bugs. Proper cowboy programming. Give me a Russian programmer any day, so much better than their US or Indian counterparts... by a long way!

[drumpiedumpie]

Same here. It just takes a lot of fun out of the game if you keep losing to guys who have 1/5 of your ATK stats. Started making screenshots. There is something seriously wrong if you lose from somebody with lower stats than you especially if they're that much lower. Gree, you have some kind of stat randomization code for battles, why this? Very annoying, very unnecessary and very unmotivating to keep buying gold bc the good units you buy are worthless in battles. Plus I don't spend any money on a game if I'm not having fun.
A lot of ppl in my faction are complaining about this too btw.

[vNastIER]

This problem is still ongoing lost to a defence 6 out of 12 battles his defence was 600k less!
its the beast himself. Hey Phil....hows it going. I see your still putting up huge points lol. Congrats man.

[At1davis]

This is still an issue. It's just another glitch that's going to drive players away. Can we get an update on when/if this is going to be addressed and fixed?

[Jhenry02]

This one is actually getting to me.
I finally got to 150k attack but what's the point? I go attack someone who's stats say 130k and I lose 8 of 12 attacks. It's hard enough finding rivals to attack who's stats say I should defeat; it's even harder finding someone who I actually can beat.

Someone mentioned somewhere else that the 2/3 rule is in place. It's true, I have to find people who's defenses are under 100k. So why did I spend my time upgrading my military for nothing? I don't know how to properly express my anger on this issue without resorting to profanity. Hopefully someone else can eloquently dictate a complaint that gree developers will see and speed up the fix.

-J

[Selfproclaimed]

Yea. Why did I or any spend gold to increase stats, if it didn't help. What's the point in increasing stats if as we grow, it's throwing us into larger brackets where with people more than 3 times more powerful than us. And the ones we WERE able to beat, now we can't even beat them. It's pointless anymore.

[meinnepa2]

Same here.
Also the rival list allies don't match rivals stats nor the stats when you win or lose against them. Example, rivals list shows player x has 305 allies, when I fought them their battle stats said they have 1281 allies. So I end up using the "blindfolded attack plan".

Also the rival list at least on my tablet, everybody seems to have the same total of allies and seems to always end in a 0 or 5. It's the same for rival list refresh after refresh, how is that possible. Am I the only one that has an ally total ending with 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,or 9?

[Ranger4Life]

This is really getting OLD! If I want a 100% success rate, then I have to attack players that show 300k or less defense when I have over 1 MILLION attack!

Come on Gree! I hope you laid off the morons that kept creating these issues and hired people to do a better job. Guess only time will tell.

[People's Front of Judea G]

Our faction is boycotting gold use for Columbia as what is the point in spending gold for stamina refills when half your attacks will result in wins for the opposition anyway. Only once the attack algorithm is fixed will we reward gree with income.

[Hairy Pooter]

Quickly becoming disenchanted.

[jchow69]

I see myself at 55.5k attack, but allies see it as 53k. So weird, but maybe it is the +3% alliance attack by my Warlord Siege Tank.

[jchow69]

It is getting really weird.

[jjm521]

Im having a different problem from most of you. I generally dont attack players unless i know i can beat them but lately when i check a players profile defense, i always see about 10-15K LESS defense on them when i attack. So under their profile, they might have 100k def, but then in battle, theyll be at 85-90K ...... ALL the time. What the hell Gree?

[119276513]

they didnt solve the problem at all. Im still experiencing the issue. I also sent them email, however no response. It is really disappointed!

[Big73]

This is really getting OLD! If I want a 100% success rate, then I have to attack players that show 300k or less defense when I have over 1 MILLION attack!

Come on Gree! I hope you laid off the morons that kept creating these issues and hired people to do a better job. Guess only time will tell.

Excatly same problem. Im 650K AT and i have to finde DF lower than 350K to ensure victory.
I guess we are in for a really bloody fight during Columbia. where the faction I´m in is for sure not getting parred with other factions witch have less than 350K DF members.
or atleast not many of them.
On the upside, it hopefully allso works the other way around. so the heavy hitters looses agenst me.:p

[AdamInToronto]

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!


try{
var attack = plyr.getAttack();
var rivalD = rival.getDefense();

if(attack > rivalD)
win();
else
lose();

}catch{
alert("gree error, shocker!")
}

var attack, defense;

function getAttack(){
return attack;
}

function getDefense(){
return defense;
}

function setAttack(player){
defense = getUnitTotals() + SIMPLE MATH FOR BOOST;
}

function setDefense(player){
attack = getUnitTotals() + SIMPLE MATH FOR BOOST;
}

There are at least 5 logic errors in this code.


I hear GREE is hiring ;)

[Mikelord]

Let's jus face it, gree can't handle the amount of problems this is causing them they need to hire more help and they need to respond to tickets! I still have three waiting response about gold lost in ireland and about hackers and about everything else this game is becoming like a cookie crumbling, and sooner or later I'm not going to even spend gold again as THERE HAVE BEEN THOUSANDS OF GOOD FEEDBACK hundreds of similar problems.... Who the hell is getting paid over there are you guys having a monkey fix this? We are waiting for quality not quantity.... (oh and our tickets to be responded to like you read them)

[Lt Kije]

Cannot seem to win battles, my attack is 101k, attacking people with 70k defence, loosing battles and loosing good kit, It becoming a joke, complained to Gee, 3 times, still awaiting response, I am a gold buyer, and if is not sorted out soon, will be leaving game. What are they doing, can they not just take the crap update back out.

[Stu Pedasso]

This is complete BS. Our faction is getting stomped and we are all losing battles we should be winning. 20-100k differentials in the numbers - how can this be? Occasionally, we win one where the differential is the other way, but mostly losses. Gree, you have completely destroyed this game which was fun up to about a month ago. Now I have people raiding and attacking me that used to be my close peers and they now have 600k-1200k stats. Tell me how that is possible without spending $10000 on this dumb game? Don't tell me large numbers of people are spending that kind of money on this because it is not possible. They are cheating and everyone knows it. I even witnessed someone explaining how to jailbreak an iPhone and get unbelievable stats in a chat room. If this BS is not fixed, and soon, I am quitting this game and very sorry I pumped about $400 into it.

[BostonHammer]

This needs to be fixed! losing battles to people who's def 1/10th of my attack (a diff of over 200k) and this has already happened 6 time during this event. This will definitely drive me away from this game.

[BADMARKX]

Brutal.
Brutal
Brutal

[Hooligany]

My faction mates have reported over 30-40 losses with stats 10-50k difference on different opponents.
What is happening?

[BADMARKX]

34-18 on what should be solid targets.
I'm pretty sure those losses are all me attacking too.
:-(

[Jhenry02]

Gotta love this
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x105/JasonHenry2002/null_zpsee2525d7.jpg

Can't even use gold

[fuzzlenutz]

Not my forte but could you point out the errors ?





There are at least 5 logic errors in this code.


I hear GREE is hiring ;)

[People's Front of Judea G]

Lost 5 attacks out of 9 to someone with 200k less d than my a. How is that the result of incorrect displayed defence stats? Either you win them all or lose them all, but to win some, lose some? It's a bug gree, you fouled up the attack algorithm. Please be decent enough to admit it rather than call us idiots and think we are stupid for not agreeing its all just stats display problems. You insult us. Not a good idea as we take our money elsewhere as a result

[ccbktb]

You guys have to fix this attack issue. We are tired of losing to people with significantly lower stats. This is rediculous!!

[Crackster21]

It would be awesome if gree would allow us to reset our stats. I'm level 250 and I always added my points evenly across the board but now I would love to put all on attack or all on defense. I would be willing to pay 50-100 gold bars to do so. So can everyone please let gree know we need to be able to reset stats! It would help us that have bad attack out in the world battle and in every day fights and raids.

[Bravo Zulu]

This is an 80k point difference. How did I lose? Not a skill point issue for sure. This is happening throughout my faction.

[United Nation of Foxes]

This has got beyond a joke, when are you going to admit your own errors greedy ????

[NaRciS]

Gotta love this
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x105/JasonHenry2002/null_zpsee2525d7.jpg

Can't even use gold

How about this - only names removed from the players with allies the players with zero allies have no names...

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[DFI]

So that I may better understand the issue, are you guys seeing more losses in the battle vs regular PVP, or are the odd losses about the same? I'm hearing much more clamor during the battle, so does this mean that there is a large group that only raids or is doing LTQs between battles, so wasn't aware of how lopsided some of the battles were? I must confess, I am a raid guy, so was not as aware of the issue until the battle for Colombia.

[DaHoosier]

I do a lot of raiding, it seems even worse for this event. I have very high points into attack. So it cannot be because of skill points into defense. I'm losing consistently to targets 20% lower defense, many close to my level.

Either skill point hacking is rampant or something is very wrong in the code.

[People's Front of Judea G]

There losses are the same for pvp as they are in the WD event. Gree has known about this issue since Ireland and has done SFA about it.

[RollTide]

Yes GREE has known of this issue. It was a real issue in Ireland and all the support tix and admin response on this forum was " it was the skill points"

If I can have an entire faction raid, PVP all through the pre event and not sustain odd losses,
GREE- this only happens during WD events?? Your algorithm is way off or needs to be fairly explained and posted in player screens

It's also worse. I understand maybe a little fluctuation 10-20k which at a 200k att score amounts to 10-20% but now really GREE ? I do not spend time getting a faction ready for battle to have 70-100k point losses. That's just crazy.

FIX IT. This is not new

[Lonewolf Devlin]

I ran away from fked up MQ very disapointed and supported MW and now my faction is loosing to people 75% our stats consecutively, constantly. Hitting headquarters with gems is not cool to keep our faction in place. Now you have hacker populated CC and KA left and some other new games I refuse to try. You'd better get your priorities correct GreeD. We as customers are seriously getting disgusted by your incompetence.

[Lord Vader34]

Wtf I pissed I aam losing to weak players also I don't know what is going on but I so pissed I bought 6 vaults to get to top 25 and I am losing to players 200k def less than my atk. What is going on can we get some answers please I sent ticket once this started to happen and now it's just getting worse I am getting no where in this war with this losses to weak players

[soulnmysole]

if everybody knows about this problem, why are guys still attacking ppl? lol

[tony5560]

Everybody just needs to stop spending there hard earned gold on this war I have

[Debramhoward@gmail.com]

Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.
You have another problem. We earned and bought a couple of health regeneration bonuses between this set of wars and the last one. It is taking much much longer for our health to regenerate. Did your programmers use a plus instead of a minus? If you are thinking of saying tht you changed the formula for re-generation...I would like to point out how de- motivational this bizarre session is. Why would we go to the trouble of earning all these bonuses for negative results. This is so not cool.

[Lt Kije]

I have send 3 tickets in about issue of losing to weaker players, had nothing back from gee. I don't think they are bothered.

[fuzzlenutz]

The players may be losing battles, points etc but the Gree employees will be losing jobs/income
This should be taken more seriously



Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.

[Crackster21]

If you have spent money on gold and gree does not help you once you have out in a ticket for the pvp glitch, contact apple and they will give you a full refund. If they say no at first just be persistent. I know 12 people that have got all their money back. Apple doesn't like the fact these foreign companies take money and don't offer any updates or support.

[Lonewolf Devlin]

If you have spent money on gold and gree does not help you once you have out in a ticket for the pvp glitch, contact apple and they will give you a full refund. If they say no at first just be persistent. I know 12 people that have got all their money back. Apple doesn't like the fact these foreign companies take money and don't offer any updates or support.

Thanks Crackster21, will see if GreeD replies until the end of the day. Everyone else should do the same and report so these dumb@ss companies treat us end users better, not to mention test their games before launching it to the public.

[Wave]

There is nothing better than refilling your health and then losing 3 times to a much weaker player. Next week it will all be better. You will get your 50 free gold bars. All better. Totally pathetic. Love the new slot machine code, push the button and watch the wheels spin and see if you are lucky...

[At1davis]

Still not fixed. Had a guy in my faction with 250k def lose to a guy under 5k def. have a screenshot even. It's out chat room photo now. If it wasn't so funny he would have cried. I myself have probably wasted three vaults of gold losing to guys much weaker during WD. Issue remains still.

[Dutchie]

Still not fixed. Had a guy in my faction with 250k def lose to a guy under 5k def. have a screenshot even. It's out chat room photo now. If it wasn't so funny he would have cried. I myself have probably wasted three vaults of gold losing to guys much weaker during WD. Issue remains still.

Please post this screenshot on here, ensuring you remove players' details apart from the attack/defense scores so that we can all see how messed up this is. GREE say it is a display bug but I think there is more going on than meets the eye.

[Jonah]

Below is a letter I sent to support...is anyone else having these same issues?

Dear Gree,
I am having several issues with your Modern War game. *It continues to crash whenever I attack in PvP or in wars. *I have deleted and reinstalled it several times, no other apps are running and I have over 50 Gb of memory available...so what's the deal with that? *Also during war and during PvP I consistently loose to opponents with much lower stats...many of them over 100,000 less then me. *This game is very competitive, but that's insanely glitchy! *I've wasted so much money on gold this war to losses that last war I won easily...my points are lame because of this program bug. *Also because of your game run time errors my game deleted my ore mine rather than collecting money from it...it was level 7 and now I have to start all over on it. *I couldn't get it to collect...so after tapping the building several times it suddenly deleted it and you have no way to get it back! *Your game is becoming far less enjoyable and far more frustrating, there's no way to earn gold...you must BUY gold...then because of bugs in the game play you loose gold on matches you should be STOMPING on.
Please tell me how you are going to fix these issues! *HELP!
Thank you!




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Sent from my iPad


Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.

[NaRciS]

Please post this screenshot on here, ensuring you remove players' details apart from the attack/defense scores so that we can all see how messed up this is. GREE say it is a display bug but I think there is more going on than meets the eye.

Dutchie, this is no way a display glitch buddy, I have team members that are the new rival list which it doesn't cause so much of a problem they have 40,000 less then me and will win against a target I then have 40k more then my player and 70k more then he same target and lose 3 out of 4...

This event is an absolute joke, no one can plan, gree doesn't care, nothing will change.

This is no way a moan at any players or this forum but most of my team has lost by crazy amounts, opponents where we know the rough stats have jumped hugely, we took on a new member and went up against her last team some of those teammates stats had risen by 200k in a few weeks!

With walls down and my level at 120 I am getting winning points move between 120 and 410 for the same person!

Gree you can check that our gold spend dropped... 95% of my members not buying gold even with your discount l

I hear display glitch, so what your saying is the following parts of the game have display glitches

Player Stats
Bonuses
Faction bonuses
Units
Game points
Battle Stats
Etc etc

Losing the will to write anymore

[Jonah]

I am also only getting 6 total hits per battle without gold...maybe...last war I was getting 8 hits per battle...I think Gree is messing with it so you have to spend more gold...


Below is a letter I sent to support...is anyone else having these same issues?

Dear Gree,
I am having several issues with your Modern War game. *It continues to crash whenever I attack in PvP or in wars. *I have deleted and reinstalled it several times, no other apps are running and I have over 50 Gb of memory available...so what's the deal with that? *Also during war and during PvP I consistently loose to opponents with much lower stats...many of them over 100,000 less then me. *This game is very competitive, but that's insanely glitchy! *I've wasted so much money on gold this war to losses that last war I won easily...my points are lame because of this program bug. *Also because of your game run time errors my game deleted my ore mine rather than collecting money from it...it was level 7 and now I have to start all over on it. *I couldn't get it to collect...so after tapping the building several times it suddenly deleted it and you have no way to get it back! *Your game is becoming far less enjoyable and far more frustrating, there's no way to earn gold...you must BUY gold...then because of bugs in the game play you loose gold on matches you should be STOMPING on.
Please tell me how you are going to fix these issues! *HELP!
Thank you!




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Sent from my iPad

[Coop2012]

The last 4 battles we have been matched with players that have 400-600k defense and sub 170 levels. I am currently the highest level player in our faction with A/D of around 200k each. How do these players end up with such high A/D at low levels? I would love to know what they skill point allocations are.
Coop

[NaRciS]

Again lost 4 in a row to test me 135,000 attack and they 85,000 defence, two other members with 99k bet them...

Joke! Can upload loads of example pics of this nonsense, loads....

[Web323]

It seems to be a 50/50 gamble right now. I am losing half the battles with over 200k diff

[Bobar]

what the ..... can anyone please explain why "lost"??

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r661/DET-Bobar/Youlost_zpse255665f.jpg

[seaagg]

Thought I would post my own from this morning. Still broken. Worst loss was to a guy with 95k. Wish my Boss had these math skills. I would be making a lot more money.

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[Bobar]

Thought I would post my own from this morning. Still broken. Worst loss was to a guy with 95k. Wish my Boss had these math skills. I would be making a lot more money.

3521

nice one too. at least you didn´t loose much money as mine was overvaulted ;-) (just to say something good in that case)

[ProCision]

this is still borked. my profile stats show XXX,XXX, I will attack and see 50,000+ lower stats and lose to someone 50,000+ lower then that. So thats a 100,000 point difference. And that profile stats on Android flux +/- 80k and on Apple there really doesnt seem to ever be any flux in stats. if you have 200k attack you will attack for 200k on apple, but if you are on Android and have 200k attack you will attack for 280k on one attack and then then next 120k. its dumb.

[Elite854]

Total hacker

[AgentRobert517]

so thts y i keep losin battles even though i have more attack than def

[ffp]

this is still borked. my profile stats show XXX,XXX, I will attack and see 50,000+ lower stats and lose to someone 50,000+ lower then that. So thats a 100,000 point difference. And that profile stats on Android flux +/- 80k and on Apple there really doesnt seem to ever be any flux in stats. if you have 200k attack you will attack for 200k on apple, but if you are on Android and have 200k attack you will attack for 280k on one attack and then then next 120k. its dumb.

I just had that happen to me and I suspect that on Androids the system randomly "forgets" to apply boost or applies your boost on the rival instead. I have seen the fluctuations and my low numbers are eerily similar to free boss hits.

[JHB1]

Seems to be better on IOS

[fcfury]

This is so retarded can someone explain to me when I do a PvP attack and look at his profile and has that person at 15k defense but when I attack the defense of the person jumps up another 15k, WTF that has happened to me so often lately, I can only win a couple in a row when some defense magically jumps up.

[BigBlueNationAWC]

You know it is still going on?

[Kirkpatrick]

So we reverted from a broken version to another broken version? This problem with the way we see our stats has been ongoing for many months without a peep from moderators that a fix is near or even being worked on. Please fix the way we see our stats. There is no reason we should see our stats five different ways.

TRULLY Agreed!!!

[ARSniper]

It is pointless to send tickets to GreeD. I have sent quite a few myself and to this day there has been nothing but a canned reaponse. I have replied to it as they suggest but never hear another thing from them. And yes, the issue is still happening. I still lose to rivals with considerably less defense than my attack numbers. I do not spend any of my money on this game solely for the reason that they don't fix anything, they just take your money and run. The same factions win all the events anyway, every time.

[Riptide]

oh no don't tell me i just loss with my 75,000 attack army to a 10,000 (just now)

[Wai]

September 2011 was the first report of an issue like this that I can find. If there was a will to fix it, it would have been fixed by now.

[Sigfried]

When scouts post stats we are just adding 25k to any numbers they get because the points swing so much. I attacked someone yesterday and got 20k difference in two attacks within seconds of each other.

[brendan_proude]

im still getting these losses that I should not be getting....

[Jrich]

It appears all my crazy losing attacks have been fixed by the new iOs update.
My bonuses are showing up correctly as well.

Thanks for the fixes!

edit- I sent a ticket in just before the war and had is resolved in a day.

[gypsiequeen]

Glad for the message. Yesterday was really screwy on rivals lists. It seemed 1/2 were abandoned accounts with nothing except defense buildings left to raid, and the 1/2 were insanely above my level (81, 51k Def/49k Attk) with the average about double my stats. There's no way at 49k, I'm attacking 100-150k defense rivals.

YOU TOTALLY CAN!!! maybey not 100k but anything under should give you positive results. should check with a raid first but i have 59k attack and i raid rivals with up to 90k defences.

[mjr Johnson]

I logged in to modern war yesterday night to collect from all my buildings and my attack was 151,000 and 160,000defence (to the nearest 1,000 can't remember exactly) and then logged on this morning and my attack had shot down to 144,000 and my defence to 155,000. I have not had any of my boost buildings raided and my defence building haven't either also I haven't lost an units. so I would like to know why my stats have decreased and if you can either push them back up or give me some gold to re-buy some units.
hopefully you can fix this problem gree

[mwloyal]

I have over 1000 allies, but when I go to Rival board to fight, I only see opponents who have 420-435 allies and I only fight with 425 allies. I see screen prints on this board where people are fighting with 500+ and during WD, I see people in the factions with over 500 allies, yet I only fight with 425. This limits me. Is this a glitch or is there some science or reasoning behind this problem?

[ABcostumer]

.............

[Teddy23p]

So you leave it broken long enough so people stop complaining. Why not just let the stats with the bonuses be what you see. I am tired of the random nature. I win three lose 2 or vice versa. Come on, fix it...

[Reaper*7]

I'm still losing to people with less stats than me

[Reaper*7]

I have over 1000 allies, but when I go to Rival board to fight, I only see opponents who have 420-435 allies and I only fight with 425 allies. I see screen prints on this board where people are fighting with 500+ and during WD, I see people in the factions with over 500 allies, yet I only fight with 425. This limits me. Is this a glitch or is there some science or reasoning behind this problem?

What level r u? u need to be a certain level to use all 500 allies

[keeskiller]

on my profile it says that i have 154532 atk. I attack people of 130k atk and i lose wtf..

On this way i can never score major battle points

[SPWD]

Me too my stats I see are 304/380k android yet I look from my ipadand I have something like 304/320 yet when I fight someone sometimes I have 210 def to 280def wtf is happening,sometimes il attack someone 8 times say and get a few units off them and not lose any but il lose the next fight???????load of shxxxxxxxxxte

[sraghav42]

on my profile it says that i have 154532 atk. I attack people of 130k atk and i lose wtf..

On this way i can never score major battle points
Happens with me too

[SPWD]

Also I've noticed that I check someone stats before attacking and it says say 300 k then when I attack it shows up like 110 or something nowhere near what it said, explain please.

[Lev]

I am either calling BS, or this person is a hacker. I submitted a report for you guys to handle. This is on a raid attempt within the last 5 minutes.http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/natch82/media/c6a91972-bdd0-4d5c-95e4-e3c37762afcb_zpsbf01417f.jpg.html) This isn't right. What is wrong with this picture? ( if I knew how to send a pic I would )Name: Level: 76Flag: Russia# units: 4918Attack: 846,309Defense: 1,270,380Money: 954,405,296

[Badass action man]

Anyone know if casualty rates hav been tripled cause I'm getting smashed!. I wonder if the stat change was a back door to up our death rates so we spend more money on units. Tax tax tax. Conspiracy much haha

[Badass action man]

Wat happened to the promise of open comms gree guys?, u said its the start of a new better service. Sack up, let us know what is going on. If u change the game we need to know so we can adapt. If u hav upped the casualty rate WE NEED TO KNOW, if u hav lowered the health regen WE NEED TO KNOW, if u hav changed wat is required to win fights WE NEED TO KNOW. Surely there is one administrator out there who has ethics. I don't mind if u want to try n improve the game play but if u try n cock it up, apologise, b open n forthright n we will get on with it. I still believe no more improvements or changes till u fix these problems. SPEAK TO US! For decencies sake

[Airthy]

how can someone with 30,000+ less stats than myself end up beating me in a battle? Some parts of this game are very flawed if you ask me!

[keeskiller]

how can someone with 30,000+ less stats than myself end up beating me in a battle? Some parts of this game are very flawed if you ask me!

same problem here, i have 167k attack (confirmed from guys in my faction) and i can only win from guys with 120 def.. (nearly, lose much also!)

And plus that when i attack my attack changes from a radius of 100k - 135k... wssup?

[helloooOonurse]

it's back! not fun losing to weaker opponents.
gree... what did you change this time? everything was fine in colombia for me

[DILL3NGER]

Yep it's back, I've sent in screen shots from losses I received. It's not just me, others in my faction have suffered. Not spend a single penny on gold until this game is resolved.

[jjm521]

<crickets>
Oh, and there goes some tumbleweed!

[Grego29]

Till about 3 weeks ago my profile A/D and my battle stats always matched within a given range. My atk then was 130k and battle results were between 109k and 130k. I viewed this as normal, because it seems that they randomly remove units from your inventory for each battle thus adding some chance you may lose. But my battle stats have not changed in 3 weeks and I have added over 100 indies and 45 blackbirds, etc and now my profile reads 176k/190k. During the B4 poland I attacked DLs with 150k and never won. As our factions DL I wonder how many times did I get beat because of this. This could have cost our faction thousands of points. Sent in ticket (#685180). Told to reload and that a fix for this came out in March. I reload this game about every week for some reason. I was told it is just a display error and that my battle results are correct. I have my entire inventory on a spreadsheet and my raw stats are close to 130k. After boosts, my atk is around 175. There is a problem. Even if it is a disply error, it should be fixed. We all make decisions on what our profile shows not what is on the server. I reloaded. I replied to my ticket, "no help, next". Still waiting.

At the end of B4 Poland I watched the leader board for the last 30 mins and our faction dropped from 1313 to 1341 with 18 seconds left. No biggy right? Until I got a prize notification with only the top 4000 prize. So I checked my IOS device. It actually tells you your rank and it said 1722. Cannot wait for the official results to be released.

Oh one more glich. Our faction forum was wiped clean right in the middle of B4 Poland. It was also wiped in the previous war. I was posting. The game crashed. When it came back up the forum was empty. Sent in ticket (#706111). Told to reload. Responded " great, how will that fix the other 26 members forum? No response.

This is getting old. Sorry about the book.

[Gennxxx]

I'm so tired of loosing to stats smaller than mine and not just by a little bit but a lot! Gree you suck!

[stuartb]

I am absolutely sure that it is a total waste of time to post anything out here on this thread, but the game locked so I couldn't send in a ticket, which would be ignored anyway.

I was attacking a player whose reported stats were about 100K defense. My profile shows 130K, but it is not anywhere near to correct. I'm on an Android, and the average attack stat that shows up in the attack screen is around 110K, which is the amount that shows when I view my account from my HLP through the in-game faction allies table.

I hit the player five times, and lost all five, but his stats were averaging about 105K, which makes sense because of hidden boosts or faction boost or whatever. So I hit the aircraft hangar, which was a Level 6. That means that his stats should have gone down, right? They do when I am playing on the iOS version with my other two LLPs. But they didn't -- the targets stats WENT UP and in five hits, he averaged !!8K. Doesn't make sense unless you assume that GREE has f'ed up some programming.

Only happens on Android. I have no idea what my stats really are on that account, and now I don't want to hit other players' defenses, either. It might explain something if the computer program is grabbing the incorrect variable. Of course, with their spaghetti code, anything is possible.

What will break next?

[I am a cow]

I'm tired of your bs GREE at least I play for free

[Harrison]

Hi everyone,

We've reverted a code change that was made to battle lists this morning and was causing some of the strange rival displays and attack results. We'll be reviewing the data to make sure the problem is corrected before it's sent out again.

I went online to play today and noticed I was down 40k in defense and 18k in offense. Can this be fixed?

Thanks
Harrison

[Herr Kruger]

I'm 115000 attackand I lost to someone with 91k defense??? Don't know what is going on

[mwloyal]

What level r u? u need to be a certain level to use all 500 allies

Im a level 99. You have to be a certain level to be able to use your maximum allotted allies? (500)?

[mwloyal]

I'm so tired of loosing to stats smaller than mine and not just by a little bit but a lot! Gree you suck!

Probably because the other person has stacked up their defense skill level. Im a level 99 and My attack skill level is 116. I win raids against people with 15-20k higher def than my attack. It compensates... allows you to get a slight edge. creates a little mystery in the game. Same thing happened in the old Mob Wars game on FB... thats where I learned the trick. Same thing works for attack and defense skill levels. you can be stronger than your level or much weaker than your level depending on how you stack your skill