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BadNews
04-18-2013, 11:45 AM
Problem is some players can see more levels around him from the battle list!

It's UNFAIR!!!!!!!!

I got two accounts about the same level. One can see only +/-1 level in the battle list, another can see about +/-10 levels.

WE NEED A FAIR GAME!!!!

Kjctnorris
04-18-2013, 11:46 AM
Do they have similar stats?

BadNews
04-18-2013, 11:47 AM
YES, 10k difference in attack&defense, same allies number.

Rastlin
04-18-2013, 12:08 PM
I agree with this. I am level 149, and can still only see -1/+1 in level. I however am attacked by people +10 above me...
Not fair by any means.

VileDoom
04-18-2013, 12:49 PM
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?49097-Rivals-List

BadNews
04-18-2013, 03:40 PM
I don't care how they change it, but it should be FAIR to everyone. Now, it's unfair.

Perfuzzie
04-18-2013, 03:44 PM
nothing is fair in this game anymore ...

Gambit12
04-18-2013, 05:42 PM
When i hit Lv 150 before i can see from Lv 125 to Lv 200...

echus14
04-18-2013, 06:14 PM
Problem is some players can see more levels around him from the battle list!

It's UNFAIR!!!!!!!!

I got two accounts about the same level. One can see only +/-1 level in the battle list, another can see about +/-10 levels.

WE NEED A FAIR GAME!!!!

Be careful, BadNews. Complain too much about this, and GREE may just tie the number of levels you can see in the Rivals List to what you're willing to pay in gems!

Basically, "pay more, see more" ... wait, maybe I'm mixing this up with what that stripper said. LOL

VileDoom
04-18-2013, 06:50 PM
Basically, "pay more, see more" ... wait, maybe I'm mixing this up with what that stripper said. LOL

Why did I read this while eating... I nearly choked. LOL!

Dexter Morgan
04-18-2013, 07:55 PM
Good post badnews. I too am plagued by only seeing up or down at max 3 levels, when others my same level can see all the way to 200. It needs to be uniform

Jeshu
04-18-2013, 09:09 PM
This is what I've been saying but unfortunately Johnny wouldn't agree with me...

Valid or
04-18-2013, 09:18 PM
I will agree that they need to work on the balance issues a bit. Just got hit by someone 8 levels above me with 110k more attack/defence than I have and 250 more Allies. But at the same time i am also thinking that when the guild wars start it makes no difference, everyone in the guild can be hit. If they are level 10 they can get attacked by people level 150 or higher.
So what can they balance out and how to do it?

echus14
04-18-2013, 11:05 PM
On a related topic ... has anyone noticed that players with 50K-100K LESS attack than your defense are now getting through?

Proprioc3ption
04-18-2013, 11:17 PM
Peeps that's not all. I have sent in tickets of Jumper Loaders (a hacker who goes from one level through to multiple other levels in sequence. To load gold and lvl up to the players that own the hacked account. I attacked one and watched his lvls go up two times then back down again only to stay at a different lvl to me. Hen he reached lvl 200 his gold almost completely disappeared.

I'm about over the lack of effort in GREE dealing with these people. Their have been hundreds of reported hackers being sent in to GREE with substantial evidence and GREE simply do nothing.
The first thing is they are not monitoring the guilds at all, if every top player has voiced that not one legitimate guild has reach 60 members yet, then why do GREE still allow them to compete? The two top guilds in FUN and RK raid and bring in more income than any other guild...period. Yet we are not even there yet.
So GREE, start providing REAL support to this game. Or our voices will become louder.

glitters
04-18-2013, 11:37 PM
^ Deaf ears don't listen even if you scream and yell at the top of your lungs. Gree is probably short-handed. That could explain the poor customer service.

VileDoom
04-19-2013, 12:01 AM
I will agree that they need to work on the balance issues a bit.

This is no longer possible in Kingdom Age. All of these LTQ's have made the damage irreversible. This game has turned into an iPhone/iPad version of Diablo II, hacked to death, broken mechanics and forgotten by its creator other than to milk what's left of any revenue.

Rastlin
04-19-2013, 12:56 AM
On a related topic ... has anyone noticed that players with 50K-100K LESS attack than your defense are now getting through?
Yes!!! This has happened to me a few times now.... And I have 100 skill points in Army Atk and Def, so that is not it either.

Rastlin
04-19-2013, 01:03 AM
The two top guilds in FUN and RK raid and bring in more income than any other guild...period. Yet we are not even there yet.

I disagree with this completely. Yes FUN and RK as a group spend more on Gems then any other guild, and thus wins the wars. However that is were it ends. Since raiding is free and about putting the time in, ANY guild can be at the same level as FUN and RK in terms of income (only exception would be if you guys are buying gold too).

VileDoom
04-19-2013, 01:16 AM
I disagree with this completely. Yes FUN and RK as a group spend more on Gems then any other guild, and thus wins the wars. However that is were it ends. Since raiding is free and about putting the time in, ANY guild can be at the same level as FUN and RK in terms of income (only exception would be if you guys are buying gold too).

Spectral Agony has some members who raid rather aggressively. ;) Unfortunately none of us have level 10 manors to draw 450k from every two days. Lol

We were just talking about bonuses today and its going to take 84 million more gold before we have the health regeneration box unlocked. :p

Rastlin
04-19-2013, 01:26 AM
SileDoom, and not sure what your Guild minimum requirement is for daily donations, however assuming similar to a lot of other guilds I will go with 100,000. That is 4,000,000 a day your guild would be bringing in minimum, so the longest it would take is 21 days. Want it faster, just call for a week long drive for donations (and put kingdom upgrades on hold for a week).

Proprioc3ption
04-19-2013, 01:50 AM
Let me explain something to you... The top players not only have lots of gems, but we have played this game longer, know it thoroughly and have greater income than other guilds. We also raid like crazy, from other top players who have hight income. Take into account this is predominantly from players who are from lvls 80-200... I can garruntee that most other guilds can't raid the high income players that FUN, RK and BGK can. They cannot raid because they are two weak. We also see everything that goes on with the hackers and loaders at high levels. We have seen with our own eyes, players from [ ] guilds who are loading gold into their guilds using a hacked account then hiding again.

I've factored in those points you made...but you're still wrong mate, and if you were apart of the higher echelon of players where gold is more abundant than at any other lvl, then you wld know. ;)

To think we are simply just stacked with gems is an understatement and shows a complete lack of understanding of the bigger picture on your part. But you're entitled to disagree...

What guild are you in? What do you think that is an average income per player per day of the top guilds? And show me a guild that can perform better without using loaders to hack gold?

VileDoom
04-19-2013, 01:51 AM
2 of our officers have already conducted a couple raid competitions to raise money for the guild and create some friendly competition among our members. ;)

Rastlin
04-19-2013, 03:39 AM
You don't need to explain anything to me, as I have been playing for a year. There are lot's of experienced long time players of this game that are NOT in FUN, RK, or BKG... And there are many more that are NOT on these forums than that are. Your arrogance is truly amazing! You know nothing about me (What level am I? What are my stats? How many LTQ's in heroic have I finished? How much income raiding do I bring in a day? How much do I spend on Gems in a month?), which now has only proven to me that you really know nothing about the other guilds out there nor their members. If you want to prove FUN is not stacked with Gems in the Wars. Well let's see your Guild not use any this time. How much to you want to bet you can't make Top 100?

Proprioc3ption
04-19-2013, 03:45 AM
Lol, you know nothing about me mate... Hahaa i stated the facts and you disagreed with them... thats arrogance! And then you reply calling me arrogant.
You obviously know nothing of what's going on at the top lvl of this game as you disagree with the truth... That's delusion mate! Don't make it personal... I said nothing about knowing you... I talked bout knowing the game and what's happening NOW!

You also didn't answer my questions?

And what did I say mate? Nothing to do with NOT being stacked with gems...we are, but we are also high income players, high stat and very knowledgable about the game. Nothing to do with playing free.
I'm not interested in your lvl...which is probably around 149... That doesn't matter... What matters is you are refuting clear evidence that everyone knows who are in the know... I won't waste my time speaking to you from here on. Good luck to ya mate! ;)

Proprioc3ption
04-19-2013, 04:12 AM
Problem is some players can see more levels around him from the battle list!

It's UNFAIR!!!!!!!!

I got two accounts about the same level. One can see only +/-1 level in the battle list, another can see about +/-10 levels.

WE NEED A FAIR GAME!!!!

Brining it back to the OP, agree mate! my various accounts have noticed this too. Also, have you seen the jumper hackers BadNews?

Winstrol
04-19-2013, 04:13 AM
Lol, you know nothing about me mate... Hahaa i stated the facts and you disagreed with them... thats arrogance! And then you reply calling me arrogant.
You obviously know nothing of what's going on at the top lvl of this game as you disagree with the truth... That's delusion mate! Don't make it personal... I said nothing about knowing you... I talked bout knowing the game and what's happening NOW!

You also didn't answer my questions?

And what did I say mate? Nothing to do with NOT being stacked with gems...we are, but we are also high income players, high stat and very knowledgable about the game. Nothing to do with playing free.
I'm not interested in your lvl...which is probably around 149... That doesn't matter... What matters is you are refuting clear evidence that everyone knows who are in the know... I won't waste my time speaking to you from here on. Good luck to ya mate! ;)
Very good knowledge about the game ? Are you ****ing serious hah ? All what you need to know in that game , is how to buy and spend gems.

Jixx
04-19-2013, 04:17 AM
Very good knowledge about the game ? Are you ****ing serious hah ? All what you need to know in that game , is how to buy and spend gems.

how to buy gems is easy, how to spend gems is a bit harder :P

as i keep running into people who have many gem units with half my stats :)

Rastlin
04-19-2013, 04:23 AM
Very good knowledge about the game ? Are you ****ing serious hah ? All what you need to know in that game , is how to buy and spend gems.
Shhhhh Don't give the secret away!!! You have to be at the top lvl of the game to know such things!

Rastlin
04-19-2013, 04:24 AM
how to buy gems is easy, how to spend gems is a bit harder :P

as i keep running into people who have many gem units with half my stats :)
Now this yes I would agree is true.

Proprioc3ption
04-19-2013, 04:29 AM
Very good knowledge about the game ? Are you ****ing serious hah ? All what you need to know in that game , is how to buy and spend gems.

Spot on Winny! ;) lol

BadNews
04-19-2013, 03:05 PM
Brining it back to the OP, agree mate! my various accounts have noticed this too. Also, have you seen the jumper hackers BadNews?

If they show up on my list, I can catch them.

glitters
04-19-2013, 05:17 PM
how to buy gems is easy, how to spend gems is a bit harder :P

as i keep running into people who have many gem units with half my stats :)

Well. One advantage of buying crates over doing LTQ is that you don't gain XP while boosting your stats. That can be significant if it can be exploited. But smart players are few and far between. Most of them won't take advantage of that. So your point is still valid somewhat.

Lord VIX
04-21-2013, 07:33 AM
Good post. I agree.

That reminds me when players were divided between boosted and unbossted stats for units. Gree was saying it changed nothing in battle, which is probably true, but it was even clearer for the people having boosted stats that they had to rush to build dragons armies (as opposed to players who wanted first to build more defense with weapons/armors).

There should be a unique set of rules.
(And by the way, I would like to know for sure about the effect of attack/defense skill points, but this is off topic I agree)