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Georges
04-02-2013, 09:09 PM
What to do?
I have posted messages to gree about a player clearly cheating ( hundreds of high expensives respect weapons even only able at lvl 14X whereas he is lvl 89)... No response
As I putted messages to him, the members of his synd after saying they didn't know he was a cheaters, still keep him in their synd and are also injuring me on my message box,....
Still no news from Gree from 2 weeks,
What to do now???

twisted 1
04-03-2013, 02:40 AM
George, my guys are hammering you because of the trouble you caused my syn, before and after you left. Not just for reporting him. I reported him also when it was brought to my attention. I told him I did and if gree didn't remove him, I'd consider it legit. When I've reported hackers, gree has promptly removed them. He is still there so you in my eyes are just a sore loser that can't take a beating. Not everyone that can beat you is a cheat. Maybe you should look closely at your own crew and mind your own business.

sister morphine
04-03-2013, 03:51 AM
Support are way behind with tickets. Don't count your chickens yet mr twisted 😉

twisted 1
04-03-2013, 04:02 AM
Support are way behind with tickets. Don't count your chickens yet mr twisted 😉
If it turns out he is a hacker, I have no problem removing him. Unless gree does it first, lol. I have no desire to harbor hackers in my syn. But do not want to remove a strong player if they are legit. We took 33rd without him and will rise in the ranks with or without him. But even after the verdict is out, George will be a target of my syn, as will the others that disrupted my syn long before this issue came up

sister morphine
04-03-2013, 04:24 AM
If the allegation is he's hacking respect items then it shouldn't be too tricky for you to work out without the help of support (and even more so if he has items not unlocked for him as George claims). Turning a blind eye until the cavalry of officialdom rides to the rescue makes you an accessory after the fact, lol

dbell525
04-03-2013, 04:54 AM
You're not supposed to be discussing this on the forums. CJ54 has posted this many many times.

Georges
04-03-2013, 05:11 AM
Be aware of your synd prevent Twested but none of you have attacked me from 2 weeks... And Ileaved your synd because they were other cheaters and like this game, hate cheaters.
Waiting for your attacks to come and robbe you by revenge
Georges

twisted 1
04-03-2013, 05:32 AM
Georges, just so you can get your panties outta your crack, ill tell you that he's been removed as of this morning.

MattThomas08
04-03-2013, 05:38 AM
Not sure why you are being so hostile twisted. If you're harboring an obvious cheater (respect hacks are usually incredibly easy to identify), then George's has a right to be upset and you're in the wrong. Why be rude toward somebody trying to clean up the game that the rest of us are trying to play fairly?

twisted 1
04-03-2013, 05:53 AM
The reason being is there is already alot of animosity towards him before this even started. It's not that I'm mad that I removed a player. I don't need him, to do well in the battles. I've seen alot of ppl with lots of doomsday frags so I assumed they won alot of respect points in scratchers or saved since the beginning. I never did the math until today. Once i did, I removed him. Call me naive or whatever you want, I'm not into hacking and don't really understand how it's done because I have no desire to hack. And hackers will not be in my syn

mxz
04-03-2013, 06:01 AM
Not sure why you are being so hostile twisted. If you're harboring an obvious cheater (respect hacks are usually incredibly easy to identify), then George's has a right to be upset and you're in the wrong. Why be rude toward somebody trying to clean up the game that the rest of us are trying to play fairly?Not to start a fight - and don't take this the wrong way, because from what I understand you guys did the right thing eventually and the situation worked itself out...but where was this advice when Killshot did the exact same thing when you guys had a cash glitcher? I have a lot of respect for sis m - and between your advice and hers it seems like SAS is giving a lot of advice that wasn't practiced on your side.

Hopefully its coming from the Lessons Learned viewpoint, which is very valuable. Anyway, your help in cleaning up the game and giving advice on this is a positive contribution and I salute you for it.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 06:43 AM
*munches popcorn*

Madmike32
04-03-2013, 07:23 AM
It was also pointed out to me that we had a hacker and they were removed immediately after discovering them. It was obvious they were hackers after looking closely .(thanks to diggn)Not everyone is a pro at this game yet and dont recognize hackers that well. I have been speaking to a couple pros in the game and finding out ALOT of useful info to help detect hackers of all kinds. With all my new info another hacker shouldnt slip through the crack in my group. Special thanks @diggn for all the help and info!

MattThomas08
04-03-2013, 08:14 AM
Not to start a fight - and don't take this the wrong way, because from what I understand you guys did the right thing eventually and the situation worked itself out...but where was this advice when Killshot did the exact same thing when you guys had a cash glitcher? I have a lot of respect for sis m - and between your advice and hers it seems like SAS is giving a lot of advice that wasn't practiced on your side.

Hopefully its coming from the Lessons Learned viewpoint, which is very valuable. Anyway, your help in cleaning up the game and giving advice on this is a positive contribution and I salute you for it.

I really hate that you keep going back to this, not because you're doing it but because the way you do it by "suggestions" intended to slander, but I suppose I'll dignify it by addressing it. We have never harbored a known or obvious hacker or glitcher. What I suggested was that if somebody provided proof of a hacker in Twisted's syndicate, why would he be mad about it? We did have an obvious hacker very early on and he was reported and removed immediately. That to me should be the standard. You can't view an applicants inventory prior to accepting (well, you can if you friend them, interview them, etc. but most of the lower level syndicates aren't going to be as thorough), so once you find out, you take them out. Done. I always make a point to view a hackers wall and try to notify his syndicate that he's being reported so they can remove him immediately and avoid being seen as culpable.

As for an alleged cash hacker, this clearly would be more difficult to prove. Just tossing allegations about somebody does not make them true. Sometimes they're as obvious as level 10 NCs, Casinos, etc. and a boatload of L10 defense buildings, sometimes not. With that said, yes, the situation you're concerned about has worked itself out internally anyway.

The advice given was and always will be practiced on our side.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 08:41 AM
What is the difference between a hacker and those spending crazy amounts of real money to buy gold to "play" this simple basic virtual game?

One is made out to be villains and cheaters, the others are made out to be some kind of hero....

I have been playing for awhile and do not see a difference, except one spends real money to achieve the same results.

Some cheat their way to and unfair advantage, the other just buys it.

Obviously we know who Gree supports, but as an outsider looking in, I see no difference.

It's very interesting reading this forum and seeing how people are treated. Seeing who is considered a bad player and who is considered a good player. I find it very odd but very interesting.

This would be a perfect community for a case study.

MattThomas08
04-03-2013, 08:47 AM
What is the difference between a hacker and those spending crazy amounts of real money to buy gold to "play" this simple basic virtual game?

One is made out to be villains and cheaters, the others are made out to be some kind of hero....

I have been playing for awhile and do not see a difference, except one spends real money to achieve the same results.

Some cheat their way to and unfair advantage, the other just buys it.

Obviously we know who Gree supports, but as an outsider looking in, I see no difference.

It's very interesting reading this forum and seeing how people are treated. Seeing who is considered a bad player and who is considered a good player. I find it very odd but very interesting.

This would be a perfect community for a case study.

The difference is the gold spenders approach the game the ethical way and are the ones who provide the funding to ensure free players will continue to have a game to play. The cheaters are those who take shortcuts to achieve in the game what could and should be achieved through hard work (although most take it to an extent impossible to achieve through work) and provide no benefit to the game other than leaching off of those who approach the game ethically.

Compare this to life; what's the difference between an individual who works hard and builds a business and successful life and theoretically provides some value to society and a thug or criminal who cheats and steals his way to fortune (and is untaxed on his gains). Both have achieved success unequal to the average man, but have taken different routes to get there.

Madmike32
04-03-2013, 08:51 AM
The difference is the gold spenders approach the game the ethical way and are the ones who provide the funding to ensure free players will continue to have a game to play. The cheaters are those who take shortcuts to achieve in the game what could and should be achieved through hard work (although most take it to an extent impossible to achieve through work) and provide no benefit to the game other than leaching off of those who approach the game ethically.

Compare this to life; what's the difference between an individual who works hard and builds a business and successful life and theoretically provides some value to society and a thug or criminal who cheats and steals his way to fortune (and is untaxed on his gains). Both have achieved success unequal to the average man, but have taken different routes to get there.
Very well said Matt.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 09:04 AM
Buying Gold is not displaying hard work. Nor is the results an achievement. So the only differences stated so far is one is more ethical and provide funding for the game. Maybe Gree should have a donation button. Bet that wouldn't be to popular, or sell the game for the ten bucks it's worth.

Thanks for answering, sorry I didn't quote the post I'm responding too.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 09:26 AM
The difference is the gold spenders approach the game the ethical way and are the ones who provide the funding to ensure free players will continue to have a game to play. The cheaters are those who take shortcuts to achieve in the game what could and should be achieved through hard work (although most take it to an extent impossible to achieve through work) and provide no benefit to the game other than leaching off of those who approach the game ethically.

Compare this to life; what's the difference between an individual who works hard and builds a business and successful life and theoretically provides some value to society and a thug or criminal who cheats and steals his way to fortune (and is untaxed on his gains). Both have achieved success unequal to the average man, but have taken different routes to get there.

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If someone chooses to hack their game and give themselves 50000 doomsday frags, it doesn't affect me. They're not taking MY doomsday frags, are they? Here's where your analogy to a real life thief falls apart... we have criminal laws to protect people from being victimized, not to assuage your sense of fairness.

twisted 1
04-03-2013, 09:27 AM
I would consider it hard work to a degree you have to earn your money to buy gold. I've become a small gold buyer in the past few months and I work hard for it. And as was pointed out, without the big gold spenders, we wouldn't have this game. And I enjoy it

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 09:50 AM
I would consider it hard work to a degree you have to earn your money to buy gold. I've become a small gold buyer in the past few months and I work hard for it. And as was pointed out, without the big gold spenders, we wouldn't have this game. And I enjoy it

People confuse this game with real life. Some are obviously living through this game, achieving status in a basic virtual game that they will never achieve in real life.

There is no hard work involved with buying gold in this game. There is actual work involved with hacking.
Without the big gold spenders this game would exist, it would just be different. You could win a virtual car in a brief case event without actually buying it. Lol.( couldn't resist after reading how people feel like they achieved something because they used 1000 gold or more to get that car.)

These type of games cater to people who want shortcuts. People who do not want to work hard. People who want things and achievements quickly. Those people are the same types of people, just use different means to get what they want.

It's a fun game, I like it. Just surprised at how people are labeled here.

dgwalker
04-03-2013, 09:59 AM
That was exactly my attitude towards hackers.... until syndicates.

I am in a syndicate near the top 50. If my syndicate ranks 51st because some syndicates above mine have players with ridiculous amounts of respect-hacked weapons then I am losing out on prizes. In a sense it is stealing from me.

-dgwalker



eyeroll.jpg

If someone chooses to hack their game and give themselves 50000 doomsday frags, it doesn't affect me. They're not taking MY doomsday frags, are they? Here's where your analogy to a real life thief falls apart... we have criminal laws to protect people from being victimized, not to assuage your sense of fairness.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 10:04 AM
The success of a syndicate has remarkably little to do with the stats of its members unless EVERY member is a hacker and their stats are so high that they're untouchable. You'd have a better argument on cash hacking because the influence hacking can be unlocked, but it's still a pretty tenuous connection. If that's why you feel victimized, however, I'm not going to stop you. It's just that I don't.

marlinfan
04-03-2013, 10:07 AM
eyeroll.jpg

If someone chooses to hack their game and give themselves 50000 doomsday frags, it doesn't affect me. They're not taking MY doomsday frags, are they? Here's where your analogy to a real life thief falls apart... we have criminal laws to protect people from being victimized, not to assuage your sense of fairness.

Eyeroll.jpg
Do you really feel the need to correct what he said? You must be another one of those Internet geniuses huh? I'm sure you got the point he was trying to make, and if you didnt then you probably shouldn't be on here trying to correct people. Get off your high horse and stop trying to make yourself sound smarter than you really are.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 10:11 AM
Oh don't worry... I'm really that smart. See, when you disagree with a person's conclusion, one way you can persuade others against his point of view is to point out a fallacy in his argument. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings by taking his argument on its own terms and responding to it.

AFed
04-03-2013, 10:23 AM
Oh don't worry... I'm really that smart. See, when you disagree with a person's conclusion, one way you can persuade others against his point of view is to point out a fallacy in his argument. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings by taking his argument on its own terms and responding to it.

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Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 10:28 AM
That was exactly my attitude towards hackers.... until syndicates.

I am in a syndicate near the top 50. If my syndicate ranks 51st because some syndicates above mine have players with ridiculous amounts of respect-hacked weapons then I am losing out on prizes. In a sense it is stealing from me.

-dgwalker

What about ridiculous amounts of gold? Is it stealing from you when someone uses gold to gain an advantage? Gold users are going to rank high and people will lose out on prizes because of that. Do you feel cheated? Do you feel as though someone has stole from you?

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 10:29 AM
No, because gold is part of the game. Anyone who thinks it's illegitimate to buy gold should find a different game to play.

MattThomas08
04-03-2013, 10:33 AM
eyeroll.jpg

If someone chooses to hack their game and give themselves 50000 doomsday frags, it doesn't affect me. They're not taking MY doomsday frags, are they? Here's where your analogy to a real life thief falls apart... we have criminal laws to protect people from being victimized, not to assuage your sense of fairness.

Here's where you're wrong though. When the only red in my news feed comes from respect hackers and they take money from my hood, I take issue with it. It's not very often you find somebody respect hacking so that they can just sit back and chill.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 10:39 AM
Oh noes! Red marks on my news! Yeah, I guess if that's what concerns you, then you've got a point. My argument is mostly directed towards those who aren't all that bothered by it. To a free player, hackers and gold spenders are equally irrelevant. Just something you accept and put behind you. If you've paid the kind of cash to make yourself invincible, though, I suppose you can complainabout not getting your money's worth...

edit: less snark

Alice
04-03-2013, 10:44 AM
Without the big gold spenders this game would exist, it would just be different.

Agree with that. The game itself isn't so complicated to develop and maintain. Considering so much amount of gold sale, we don't even see the effort of eliminating hackers. Why? because the driving force is not about removing hackers, but about creating new gold buying reasons such as syndicate war, which I think is much more successful than all those box events.

Gold buyers may need to organize a strike like never buy any more gold until GREE eliminate all hackers they can see. Hackers only damages the benefits of buying gold. For free players like me, hackers are as strong as gold buyers and we usually don't care that much...

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 10:48 AM
I said in an earlier thread that I think the biggest reason they don't care about hackers is because they never really thought of this game as competitive in the first place. I think they see it as sort of a farmville style timewaster where you can build your city and show it off to your friends. Why would anyone cheat in such a game and why would anyone really care if someone did? It's sort of like cheating in solitaire. This would also explain why they made some very boneheaded mistakes in game design.

sister morphine
04-03-2013, 10:57 AM
eyeroll.jpg

If someone chooses to hack their game and give themselves 50000 doomsday frags, it doesn't affect me. They're not taking MY doomsday frags, are they? Here's where your analogy to a real life thief falls apart... we have criminal laws to protect people from being victimized, not to assuage your sense of fairness.
I agree with your comment about a red line in the news caused by a hacker. In fact I often enjoy it when some hacker attacks me as it saves time having to find them. But going back a while to when event cases could be taken from other players then it was a different state of affairs. During one event I was targeted by the CK-hating respect hacker Alex (remember him?) who stole numerous boxes from me. Now if that had been a legit player taking them I'd have been annoyed yes, but it's part of the game. When a cheater steals your chances in an event it was something else.

MattThomas08
04-03-2013, 11:23 AM
Oh noes! Red marks on my news! Yeah, I guess if that's what concerns you, then you've got a point. My argument is mostly directed towards those who aren't all that bothered by it. To a free player, hackers and gold spenders are equally irrelevant. Just something you accept and put behind you. If you've paid the kind of cash to make yourself invincible, though, I suppose you can complainabout not getting your money's worth...

edit: less snark

I don't mind the red. As a color in general, I find it rather appealing. Im wearing a red shirt right now. My wife has red hair. It's one of the primary colors, so it's like a founding father of color. It's just that red means I'm losing cash, which makes me sad :-(.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 11:29 AM
Agree with that. The game itself isn't so complicated to develop and maintain. Considering so much amount of gold sale, we don't even see the effort of eliminating hackers. Why? because the driving force is not about removing hackers, but about creating new gold buying reasons such as syndicate war, which I think is much more successful than all those box events.

Gold buyers may need to organize a strike like never buy any more gold until GREE eliminate all hackers they can see. Hackers only damages the benefits of buying gold. For free players like me, hackers are as strong as gold buyers and we usually don't care that much...

I think hackers feed the gold sale. Gold feeds the hackers. It's a win win for Gree. I think the Gree people are very smart in that sense. They are great puppet masters. I applaud them.

Who would believe you could get people to spend $100 to get a virtual car and brag about doing so? Wish each other luck like some big achievement has taken place.

Personally I view hackers and gold buyers the same. I don't see a difference in the end, I think the goals are the same for both. Not bothered by either. Just reading this community, I see so many complaints about one group and not the other. Obviously both are very important to Gree.

Ak Killah
04-03-2013, 11:39 AM
Gree try and sweep the hacking situation under the carpet, they claim they are following through on reports, but correct me if i'm wrong, I've been playing this game for 4 months and since syndicates and new respect items complaints about hacking have gone through the roof. Hacking is a pandemic in cc.

Remember prevention is better then cure

Ak Killah
04-03-2013, 11:42 AM
I said in an earlier thread that I think the biggest reason they don't care about hackers is because they never really thought of this game as competitive in the first place. I think they see it as sort of a farmville style timewaster where you can build your city and show it off to your friends. Why would anyone cheat in such a game and why would anyone really care if someone did? It's sort of like cheating in solitaire. This would also explain why they made some very boneheaded mistakes in game design.
I care i've invested real cash and time on this game.

FOAD
04-03-2013, 11:55 AM
I'm glad we are switching over to philosophical discussions on hacking. Reading individual call outs remind me of the McCarthy days of US history. Under the witch hunt of finding commies many of those accused were innocent. Very few were found relative to the ones accused. In fact some of the so called strident anti-communists turned out to be communist sympathizers or spies.

Interesting how this is playing out in CC. Since most hacking accusations prove false the accused is stained forever, the accuser is holier than thou, and I would imagine some of them are hackers themselves but very clever about it. Incremental hacking is very hard to find even for the anti-hacker crusaders.

Frankly this game is gone from fun to something less than that. This forum used to be about advice, camaraderie, mostly playful pot shots, but seems to be dominated in threads about Hacking and the vigilantes out there. Funny it tends to be in the top 25 syns as well. Nothing like protecting their turfs I guess.

Do you even express remorse if you are wrong? Of course not because you are not. If Gree looks at players account and clears them you accuse Gree of incompetency, collusion, or not caring. You're the experts so you can never be wrong.

The other poster talking about the real world implications of how CC plays out is exactly correct. Mob rules. Hope you don't do this in your real world lives or with your co-workers because that would really suck.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 11:57 AM
Gree try and sweep the hacking situation under the carpet, they claim they are following through on reports, but correct me if i'm wrong, I've been playing this game for 4 months and since syndicates and new respect items complaints about hacking have gone through the roof. Hacking is a pandemic in cc.

Remember prevention is better then cure

Hacking counters the gold spending. People do all sorts of things to even the playing field.

People spend real money to gain an advantage and hackers get an advantage for free. Lol a pandemic indeed.

The only prevention would be to eliminate both, and no chance of that happening.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 12:02 PM
Angel, I suspect y'all be trollin, but I'll bite mostly just to make this slightly less painless. Gold spending is fair. Deal with it. See, it's like ripping off a band-aid. If you can't accept that, go find a new game to play and quit complaining about this one.

gambet1234
04-03-2013, 12:04 PM
*munches popcorn*

Can you please close your mouth when you chew? It is quite noisy. You aren't the only one watching the show you know!

SuperTP
04-03-2013, 12:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3Wf02pj.gif

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 12:13 PM
Angel, I suspect y'all be trollin, but I'll bite mostly just to make this slightly less painless. Gold spending is fair. Deal with it. See, it's like ripping off a band-aid. If you can't accept that, go find a new game to play and quit complaining about this one.

I'm not trolling or complaining. I'm having an discussion, if you can't handle or accept that, don't participate.

I'm not that "guy" , you are not going to dictate to me. Go find some other thread to play authority in and play like you are relevant.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 12:21 PM
Whatevs, champ. You're arguing that a company should get rid of the only aspect of the game that produces an income stream. If you're not trolling, then you're a herp-a-derp. I apologize for giving you the benefit of the doubt. Carry on.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 12:23 PM
Name, that is an interesting way to view the difference between a hacker and gold buyer.

Can't agree with one caring about the game more than the other though. I would have to know more about them individually to make that call.

As far as real life situations, just can not apply them to crime city. Nothing about this is real. But I do respect your point of view.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 12:29 PM
Whatevs, champ. You're arguing that a company should get rid of the only aspect of the game that produces an income stream. If you're not trolling, then you're a herp-a-derp. I apologize for giving you the benefit of the doubt. Carry on.

If that is what you got from my post then you are a herp-a-derp. Brush up on your reading comprehension, it needs work.

I admit I never gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you proved to be exactly what I suspected. Carry on.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 12:38 PM
Hacking counters the gold spending. People do all sorts of things to even the playing field.

People spend real money to gain an advantage and hackers get an advantage for free. Lol a pandemic indeed.

The only prevention would be to eliminate both, and no chance of that happening.

Quoted without comment.

dgwalker
04-03-2013, 12:40 PM
In defense of dipstick, your post does have a "troll-like" quality too it.
I'm not sure we can prove outright that you are a troll, but the naivety of your post does make it seem that way.





If that is what you got from my post then you are a herp-a-derp. Brush up on your reading comprehension, it needs work.

I admit I never gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you proved to be exactly what I suspected. Carry on.

[CM]]forgetaboutit
04-03-2013, 12:51 PM
No, because gold is part of the game. Anyone who thinks it's illegitimate to buy gold should find a different game to play.

Funny
All my gold I have and used is illegitimate

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 12:52 PM
Quoted without comment.

You really do need comprehension skills. People like you pretend to be smart, when you really on rely on others being dumber than you.

Most people can look at context and understand what they are reading. Obviously you can not. The quote you posted proves that.

If you have nothing to add to the discussion , sit back and let the adults talk.

Seriously that was an pathetic attempt , but like I said before I suspected it would be. You have a "tell" , easily recognized.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-03-2013, 12:59 PM
In defense of dipstick, your post does have a "troll-like" quality too it.
I'm not sure we can prove outright that you are a troll, but the naivety of your post does make it seem that way.

I would hope he would have better defenders.

You guys throw troll around a lot. If you don't have anything to add to the discussion, then don't. Being called a troll because you do not like what I am discussing means nothing to me. It's an often used tactic to stop a conversation.
Plenty of people have added to the discussion, perhaps defending him is all you have to offer.

Dipstik
04-03-2013, 01:01 PM
You really do need comprehension skills. People like you pretend to be smart, when you really on rely on others being dumber than you.


Well I go with what works :)

Carl1880
04-03-2013, 02:16 PM
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Carl1880
04-03-2013, 02:23 PM
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Ham
04-03-2013, 02:33 PM
Carl1880, this is not the thread you are looking for!

Wtf is a herp-a-derp?

cooch
04-03-2013, 02:49 PM
Our syndicate has a huge problem!

Our leader has gone awol since the last battle and we are now told that he has lost his phone and won't be back for some time - certainly not before the next battle!

So on the syndicate forum we voted for a new leader! Easy!

But how do we nominate the new syndicate leader? We have contacted support but just get automated replies!!

We have all invested a lot of money into the syndicate and have 1000's of brick... but no leader!

What should we do? How do you put in a new leader?

Has anyone ever telephoned Gree? Is this possible?

Whenever you have a problem with the Leader for whatever reason the Gree policy is as follows:

1. Submit tickets, preferably from officers, outlining reasons. You have a legitimate one.
2. Gree assigns Syn to the most senior in time officer but frankly they don't always do this.

You have the following to consider:

1. Gree is backlogged by at least two weeks
2 You don't need to go to war with a leader..the only value he/she has is to buy hideouts and kick non-productive players out. If you go to battle you will be a pin cushion since all opponents after DL down will get double points if you do not have enough or any hideouts.
3. You would still, assuming strong enough, place somewhere in Top 2000.

You cannot rush this process through and going thru backdoor methods will only end badly for you and Syn.

Good luck.

sister morphine
04-03-2013, 02:57 PM
Just quit crying!!! Tired of hearing ya!!
Oh, the irony of it

Ljay925
04-03-2013, 08:25 PM
What to do?
I have posted messages to gree about a player clearly cheating ( hundreds of high expensives respect weapons even only able at lvl 14X whereas he is lvl 89)... No response
As I putted messages to him, the members of his synd after saying they didn't know he was a cheaters, still keep him in their synd and are also injuring me on my message box,....
Still no news from Gree from 2 weeks,
What to do now???

cry baby it's a game

[CM]]forgetaboutit
04-04-2013, 10:56 AM
Our syndicate has a huge problem!

Our leader has gone awol since the last battle and we are now told that he has lost his phone and won't be back for some time - certainly not before the next battle!

So on the syndicate forum we voted for a new leader! Easy!

But how do we nominate the new syndicate leader? We have contacted support but just get automated replies!!

We have all invested a lot of money into the syndicate and have 1000's of brick... but no leader!

What should we do? How do you put in a new leader?

Has anyone ever telephoned Gree? Is this possible?


Is your leader CM Death Dealer
Moo Ha Ha

Dipstik
04-04-2013, 11:06 AM
If there's drama, please share! *munches popcorn*

Killshot-CC
04-04-2013, 03:21 PM
I'm just playing catch up here, so I'll throw out a few comments about what I've read so far.

I think twisted 1 should be acknowledged for tossing out the apparent cheater. It's a hard choice to make, to eject someone who hasn't been ejected by GREE, but, unfortunately, it's often left to us to police the game. He explained that they were pounding on Georges for other reasons and ejected the cheater on his own. That takes a lot of integrity.

mxz's comments always give me a laugh. He still hasn't written one word to bring any of his allegations into focus. If he had even half the guts that AFed does, he would have. AFed very earnestly pm'ed me with the person that he believed to be cheating. The player wasn't an obvious cheater, but after I went through every piece of inventory, I agreed with AFed. We were faced with the same problem Twisted 1 had: the person had been reported to GREE but was still in the game. However, we got him out of the syndicate all the same, and I, personally, ticked off a few people in the process. That he would know this and still question my integrity just shows what a tool he really is.

Angel6ix6ix6 compares cheating to spending money, because "buying Gold is not displaying hard work." Apparently you have no idea how people earn money in the real world. Like many in the game, I've worked very hard for many years and anticipate working many more to be able to earn money to buy gold. So while you may think sitting on your can playing with your phone to cheat the game is equal to working a job, budgeting, and having enough left over to spend on the things you enjoy, I think you're deluded and ignorant of basic economics.

jobadass
04-04-2013, 04:06 PM
Georges, just so you can get your panties outta your crack, ill tell you that he's been removed as of this morning.very classy.

I imagine you'll bring him back once there are new bonuses to buy and you realize you can't keep pace without cheating?

mxz
04-04-2013, 06:20 PM
The player wasn't an obvious cheater, but after I went through every piece of inventory, I agreed with AFed. We were faced with the same problem Twisted 1 had: the person had been reported to GREE but was still in the game. However, we got him out of the syndicate all the same, and I, personally, ticked off a few people in the process. That he would know this and still question my integrity just shows what a tool he really is.Considering you staked your game on your syndicate harboring no cheaters - I assume you've kept to your word and quit the game?

Or, is your integrity as low as Lupo's? Per your thread and Lupo's - I believe you owe it to me to write "mxz" in your hood and retire.

Congrats on all you had achieved.

AFed
04-04-2013, 06:50 PM
mxz's comments always give me a laugh. He still hasn't written one word to bring any of his allegations into focus. If he had even half the guts that AFed does, he would have. AFed very earnestly pm'ed me with the person that he believed to be cheating. The player wasn't an obvious cheater, but after I went through every piece of inventory, I agreed with AFed. We were faced with the same problem Twisted 1 had: the person had been reported to GREE but was still in the game. However, we got him out of the syndicate all the same, and I, personally, ticked off a few people in the process. That he would know this and still question my integrity just shows what a tool he really is.

Since I was mentioned here in public I'd figure I'd weigh in.

First, I'm glad it finally got resolved. Guy is now in another syn and they seem to be displaying a pro-cheater policy, which is certainly worse than anything that has been discussed here. Sons of Anarchy for anyone who cares.

Second, it was very obvious when you looked at his inventory, even more so before the prices dropped, which was when I originally PMd Vlad about it, with a specific breakdown of everything. Even showing the math, he dismissed me without a thought. Vlad was incredibly dense throughout it, caring more about winning than doing so correctly, even posting in iteachem's anti-cheating thread that he would be happy to help. That was laughable...he didn't care in his own syn. That's where it all began. Had he been rigorous in the beginning, none of this would've been necessary.

apotheosis
04-04-2013, 06:53 PM
Please report complaints to the BBB.org they will get gree to respond to your complaints throught them. If enough people complain to gree through the BBB; the BBB will investigate gree.

When on the BBB website search for Gree International that will bring up their company. Just follow the prompts from there on. Demand all money invested into the game to be refunded when submitting the complaint. This will fix Gree ;)

mxz
04-04-2013, 07:04 PM
Vlad was incredibly dense throughout it, caring more about winning than doing so correctly, even posting in iteachem's anti-cheating thread that he would be happy to help. That was laughable...he didn't care in his own syn. That's where it all began. Had he been rigorous in the beginning, none of this would've been necessary.Silent Assassins: against cheaters that don't join them. :p

MattThomas08
04-04-2013, 07:13 PM
Considering you staked your game on your syndicate harboring no cheaters - I assume you've kept to your word and quit the game?

Or, is your integrity as low as Lupo's? Per your thread and Lupo's - I believe you owe it to me to write "mxz" in your hood and retire.

Congrats on all you had achieved.


I'm not sure why you felt the need to necro the old thread and not read it, but he never said he would quit the game. He said you should quit the game if you couldn't provide proof. You're an infant sometimes and it's a shame.

MattThomas08
04-04-2013, 07:15 PM
Silent Assassins: against cheaters that don't join them. :p

Again, an infant. Silent Assassins, reports dozens of cheaters a day and provides advice to others on how they can help make the game clean.

Mxz, provides nothing of value to the conversation and berates others who are trying to help.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-04-2013, 09:47 PM
Lmao, comparing this game to real world. You work your job to have money to buy gold in this game. A game which you get nothing back on your return. Buy gold if you want too, nothing wrong with that, but stop comparing this game to real life. And the thought of someone working to buy gold is just pathetic. Budgeting to buy gold in this game is pathetic. Stating that is sad. Buy all the gold you want, but if you have to budget and work to buy gold , your life priorities are .........screwed to put it nicely. Surely you jest!

Dipstik
04-05-2013, 05:22 AM
Did I get loki'd?

twisted 1
04-05-2013, 05:26 AM
very classy.

I imagine you'll bring him back once there are new bonuses to buy and you realize you can't keep pace without cheating?
You imagine wrong. I have no desire to harbor hackers in my syn. We placed 33 without him and will place higher next war. WITHOUT hackers. You totally missed the point of my response. He disrupted my syn constantly and it had nothing to do with hackers. He was pissed I wouldn't let him into our extended forum. He didn't donate....
I don't need cheaters to do well.

Dipstik
04-05-2013, 05:37 AM
Jobadass is right. Twisted is a tool.

Killshot-CC
04-05-2013, 05:39 AM
Lmao, comparing this game to real world. You work your job to have money to buy gold in this game. A game which you get nothing back on your return. Buy gold if you want too, nothing wrong with that, but stop comparing this game to real life. And the thought of someone working to buy gold is just pathetic. Budgeting to buy gold in this game is pathetic. Stating that is sad. Buy all the gold you want, but if you have to budget and work to buy gold , your life priorities are .........screwed to put it nicely. Surely you jest!

Haha. You say, "Buy gold if you want to, there's nothing wrong with that" and then immediately go on to argue what's wrong with that. A little conflicted? It sounds like someone is having a little trouble accepting that her allowance doesn't permit her to by gold. Maybe you should sell your device and spend your time on more productive endeavors since you get nothing out of the game. No one compared the game to real life, only that money is earned in real life. Maybe when you get out of school into the real world, you'll grasp the concept of budgeting your finances and working for your income. Adults budget and work for what they earn. Children just complain that life isn't fair. Boohoo! :(

Angel6ix6ix6
04-05-2013, 07:01 AM
Haha. You say, "Buy gold if you want to, there's nothing wrong with that" and then immediately go on to argue what's wrong with that. A little conflicted? It sounds like someone is having a little trouble accepting that her allowance doesn't permit her to by gold. Maybe you should sell your device and spend your time on more productive endeavors since you get nothing out of the game. No one compared the game to real life, only that money is earned in real life. Maybe when you get out of school into the real world, you'll grasp the concept of budgeting your finances and working for your income. Adults budget and work for what they earn. Children just complain that life isn't fair. Boohoo! :(


Like I said, nothing wrong with buying gold, but to equate this game to real life is pathetic. If you have to budget and work your job to buy gold to play this game, you can't afford it and shouldn't be doing it. Apparently you know that and thus turned to the tired but never gets "old" of calling someone a child. Obviously the pathetic life comment hit
home.

The fact that you can't separate buying gold if you want, from how pathetic it is to relate this game to real life. To have to actually budget the buying of gold for this game in your real life shows you are way to far gone. You also had an hard time understanding that investing real life money into this game by buying gold gives you no financial return. Thus my statement about getting nothing in return . Maybe your lack of understanding investments is why you have to work and budget in real life in order to buy gold so you can tap buttons in a basic virtual game.

None of that had anything to do with the original question however. Which was the difference between hackers and massive gold buyers, and how they are viewed. That question got side tracked by a couple of you that have a hard time distinguishing between the real world and virtual world.

Dipstik
04-05-2013, 07:03 AM
For a second I thought angel might be hatta. Just wishful thinking, I guess.

Killshot-CC
04-05-2013, 11:49 AM
None of that had anything to do with the original question however. Which was the difference between hackers and massive gold buyers, and how they are viewed. That question got side tracked by a couple of you that have a hard time distinguishing between the real world and virtual world.

Oh. So it was just simple confusion on your part? I assumed that since you've spent so much time here talking about cheaters you had actually bothered to read the terms of use - you know, the legal contract that you agreed to in order to play the game. Here's a link: http://www.funzio.com/?page_id=32

You may want to read up on Section 2, especially the part that reads:

"2. Code of Conduct. You agree that you will not (the following restrictions, collectively, the “Code of Conduct”):

(a) cheat or use, develop or distribute automation software programs (“bots”), “macro” software programs or other “cheat utility” software programs or applications which are designed to modify the Services or Funzio experience;

(b) exploit, distribute or publicly inform other users of any game error, miscue or bug which gives an unintended advantage

(c) disrupt, attempt to, or otherwise assist in the disruption of (i) any computer or network used to provide or support the Services or (ii) any other user’s experience;

(d) upload files that contain viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, corrupted files or data, or any other similar software or programs that may damage the operation of the Services or other users’ computers;

(e) promote or encourage any illegal activity including, without limitation, hacking, cracking or distribution of counterfeit software, or cheats or hacks for the Services;"

You may also want to familiaraize yourself with the DMCA of 1998, http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf, in particular the sections that lay out the criminal penalties for "Circumvention of Technological Protection Measures."

So in simple terms so that you can follow, cheaters have violated the terms of use while money players are simply playing the game as it was intended. Does that clear up your confusion?

Lueds
04-05-2013, 12:31 PM
The difference is the gold spenders approach the game the ethical way and are the ones who provide the funding to ensure free players will continue to have a game to play. The cheaters are those who take shortcuts to achieve in the game what could and should be achieved through hard work (although most take it to an extent impossible to achieve through work) and provide no benefit to the game other than leaching off of those who approach the game ethically.

Compare this to life; what's the difference between an individual who works hard and builds a business and successful life and theoretically provides some value to society and a thug or criminal who cheats and steals his way to fortune (and is untaxed on his gains). Both have achieved success unequal to the average man, but have taken different routes to get there.

I've never posted but you sum it up perfectly.

I'm a free player and I don't resent gold players, I appreciate them funding the game, but an obvious cheat who attacks me and burns explosives drives me crazy. I've reported a blatant respect hack who is also a gold buyer, but nothing has happened. I would guess that GREEd would give a free pass to a gold player who also hacks respect. They care about their profits - that's their game. If someone pays real money but also cheats that is good for them. Kind of like an insider trading hedge fund manager who makes big campaign contributions and gets a pardon from a politician.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-05-2013, 01:17 PM
Killshot, you are coming off as being very guilty. You have trouble following an conversation and make up and add things to support...... What exactly.

How about those Gold hackers?

If Gree sold this game for $100 people would laugh and say they are crazy. Gree is smart, give it to you for free and let that weak human nature take over.

Anyway killshot you better get to work, you have gold to "buy" .......

Max Power
04-05-2013, 01:26 PM
Like I said, nothing wrong with buying gold, but to equate this game to real life is pathetic. If you have to budget and work your job to buy gold to play this game, you can't afford it and shouldn't be doing it. Apparently you know that and thus turned to the tired but never gets "old" of calling someone a child. Obviously the pathetic life comment hit
home.



Honestly, the person doing the most equating to real life is you.

In game is not real life, everybody playing it knows it. Sure, some who spend a lot of gold act cocky and condascending, as if they are better players rather than higher spenders, but even those people know this game is virtual.

Where you can't fence this game off from real life is that people who spend money on this game are using real life resources, resources that could be applied to real life things. And when my real life money is diminished in value by some idiot who skirts the contract and terms of use, you're dam right I am going to treat them differently than somebody who decided to do without other real life goods so that they could get ahead in this game. Why wouldn't I? Cheaters just took my dollar and make it worth 5 cents.

You are sounding a lot like somebody who justifies stealing music, or movies on bit torrent sites. Just because it is hard to hack doesn't make it respectable. If you are going to beat me, outspend me or outplay me. Don't beat me by cheating.

Kinda like real life.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-05-2013, 01:56 PM
Lmao, thinking your real life money holds value in this basic virtual game. You don't get your money back, your money is not invested and does not go up in value. Once you spend real life money, no difference than burning it in the fireplace. Well at least you do get heat.

Lol at being upset that your real life money was diminished........lol you diminished it when you used it to buy gold for an basic virtual game that offers no financial gain. Lol at thinking your dollar is even worth 5 cents in this game. Lmao.

I don't justify cheating, I think there are many cheaters and many ways to cheat. I find it funny the lines people draw between cheaters. Cheaters complaining about other cheaters. So much crying about cheaters. Cheaters pretending they aren't cheaters. Lol. Cheaters not able to follow an conversation. Lol out spend ya, out play ya...lol.

But yeah, very interesting, thanks for sharing.

MattThomas08
04-05-2013, 02:31 PM
Have you ever gone to the movies before? Ever bought a PS3 video game before? A nice night out with your significant other? Some drinks after work perhaps? None of these provide financial return on the investment. It's for entertainment purposes. I don't think anybody goes into this game seeking a financial profit, only entertainment.

I suppose if you're entertained by money burning in a fireplace, there would be a correlation between your asinine postings and thoughts of a sane individual, otherwise I see no relevance.

Killshot-CC
04-05-2013, 02:39 PM
I see a pattern. Crazy rambling post from Angel6ix6ix6 coming up....
vvvvvvvvvv

Angel6ix6ix6
04-05-2013, 03:18 PM
Yes those $2000 movie tickets! Lmao. Perfectly sane to pay hundreds of dollars for a virtual car.

It's ok to be crazy, just own it.

Have you ever...... I seriously doubt it. They don't accept gold at those places!

A ramble for killshot.... Who do the gold hackers complain about?...respect hackers.

pS3 games can be sold,traded,given away. Night out with the girl, pays off.

Drinks after work, networking....pays off.

Movies with your girl, pays off.

All can be financial rewards.

Bundles of virtual gold, nawwwww!

Lonestoner
04-05-2013, 03:22 PM
Yes those $2000 movie tickets! Lmao. Perfectly sane to pay hundreds of dollars for a virtual car.

It's ok to be crazy, just own it.

Have you ever...... I seriously doubt it. They don't accept gold at those places!

A ramble for killshot.... Who do the gold hackers complain about?...respect hackers.

This guy is either the biggest troll ever, or the biggest moron.. I still can't tell which one it is.

I especially love the comparison between spending real money on this game, and cheating. Most sensible comparison ever.

Please, teach me more by responding to my comment.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-05-2013, 03:49 PM
This guy is either the biggest troll ever, or the biggest moron.. I still can't tell which one it is.

I especially love the comparison between spending real money on this game, and cheating. Most sensible comparison ever.

Please, teach me more by responding to my comment.

I think you are a troll moron . No doubt about it.

You loved the comparison so much that you didn't quote it!

Another person who comments, without knowing what conversation they are replying to.

Lonestoner
04-05-2013, 05:02 PM
I think you are a troll moron . No doubt about it.

You loved the comparison so much that you didn't quote it!

Another person who comments, without knowing what conversation they are replying to.

You're right, every one of my 487 posts has been trolling. Yea.

Why would I need to quote it when you know exactly what I'm talking about? Don't be ashamed of your own posts.. It's okay to be completely wrong sometimes, and calling people that spend real money on a game "cheaters" is completely wrong. They do gain something from spending money, as stated before; entertainment. You could argue that hackers are also gaining entertainment from doing what they do, sure, but the means to getting there is completely different between the two. One is legitimate, the other isn't. You have discarded every attempt of people trying to explain to you why they're different, so I'm not even going to attempt myself, but just know that cheaters and gold spenders are completely different.

Grimmy11
04-05-2013, 05:29 PM
I see a pattern. Crazy rambling post from Angel6ix6ix6 coming up....
vvvvvvvvvv

I see another pattern, a stupid person with no comprehension skills fails to understands Angels post. That is a more likely scenario.

Lonestoner
04-05-2013, 06:19 PM
What is the difference between a hacker and those spending crazy amounts of real money to buy gold to "play" this simple basic virtual game?

Since you like quotes so much..


Thanks for answering, sorry I didn't quote the post I'm responding too.

Oh I see, you expect others to do it but don't practice it yourself.


There is no hard work involved with buying gold in this game. There is actual work involved with hacking.

These type of games cater to people who want shortcuts. People who do not want to work hard. People who want things and achievements quickly. Those people are the same types of people, just use different means to get what they want.

So clicking a button in a game is harder work than an occupation that brings real income in? An occupation that people have worked years to achieve? Gone to college for years to gain the occupation? Oddly, you have to click more buttons when you're spending gold, as well as earning the money to be able to purchase the gold. Free players "working hard" actually click a lot less buttons, since resetting the timer each time is an extra click. Buying the gold also requires multiple clicks. Man your outlook is diluted.


Personally I view hackers and gold buyers the same.

Yet another quote proving my point.


You really do need comprehension skills. People like you pretend to be smart, when you really on rely on others being dumber than you.

Most people can look at context and understand what they are reading. Obviously you can not. The quote you posted proves that.

If that's the case, then why do you need me to quote what you've said? Again, the pot calling the kettle black.

Hopefully this collection of your quotes can help you realize how completely ridiculous you sound.

kingofwale
04-05-2013, 07:31 PM
how to Funzio determine with a report?

Some idiot just reported me because "you must've saved a lot for all your items at 2 million per hour". Because I attacked him and stole about 800K worth of cash

I wrote him back to let him know that I was well into 3 mil per but decided to delete some of cash building in order to build more defense building as I am the defense leader of my Syn.


Now what? Never been accused of cheating, I'm at level 173, how can I even fight for my case?

Grimmy11
04-05-2013, 07:48 PM
how to Funzio determine with a report?

Some idiot just reported me because "you must've saved a lot for all your items at 2 million per hour". Because I attacked him and stole about 800K worth of cash

I wrote him back to let him know that I was well into 3 mil per but decided to delete some of cash building in order to build more defense building as I am the defense leader of my Syn.


Now what? Never been accused of cheating, I'm at level 173, how can I even fight for my case?

I wouldn't worry about it. If you know for a fact you didn't cheat then Gree will see that this is the case.

Angel6ix6ix6
04-05-2013, 08:18 PM
Since you like quotes so much..

Oh I see, you expect others to do it but don't practice it yourself.

So clicking a button in a game is harder work than an occupation that brings real income in? An occupation that people have worked years to achieve? Gone to college for years to gain the occupation? Oddly, you have to click more buttons when you're spending gold, as well as earning the money to be able to purchase the gold. Free players "working hard" actually click a lot less buttons, since resetting the timer each time is an extra click. Buying the gold also requires multiple clicks. Man your outlook is diluted.

Yet another quote proving my point.


If that's the case, then why do you need me to quote what you've said? Again, the pot calling the kettle black.

Hopefully this collection of your quotes can help you realize how completely ridiculous you sound.


A bunch of quotes out of context. I don't know if you are playing dumb or if you are the front seat rider on the short bus.

Lmao about clicking a button and working real life job. Such foolishness talking about real life and this game. It's
like you all are sharing the same tiny brain.

Good job explaining about the hard work involved in gold buying and clicking buttons. All that college certainly paid off. You don't sound ridiculous at all.


Context......is obviously something you just can't comprehend. When you take things out of the context of which they were said, reasons why they were said and meanings are lost.

When someone says You can look at context and understand, you should be able to. The full context, not chopping up one line that was a question, and another that is a statement or answer.

Chopping up an conversation to try to prove a point is weak, but it's obvious that you would not comprehend a full back and forth conversation anyway. Idont believe you are capable of doing that on purpose.

I could easily do that to your post, but they are so insane in full context, I don't want what you said to be mistaken for anything other than what they are. Lmao.

Hard work and multiple clicks........ Lone and stoner explains everything.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 07:00 AM
i would worry too , as we see ,you still around

All cheating accusations should be reported to support. I have reported your post as harassment as you have continued to accuse me of cheating.

sister morphine
04-06-2013, 07:07 AM
All cheating accusations should be reported to support. I have reported your post as harassment as you have continued to accuse me of cheating.
Isn't the accusation that you have knowingly harboured cheaters in your syndicate, rather than that you personally have cheated? It's not the same thing you know. Either way you perhaps ought to ask around about syndicates which have been broken up by Gree for having multiple hackers within.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 07:13 AM
Isn't the accusation that you have knowingly harboured cheaters in your syndicate, rather than that you personally have cheated? It's not the same thing you know. Either way you perhaps ought to ask around about syndicates which have been broken up by Gree for having multiple hackers within.

As the moderators have stated before. All allegations of cheating should be sent to Gree support and not posted on the forums.

If you believe that my syndicate members or myself have cheated in anyway please contact Gree support and don't post in the forums.

I have reported your post as well.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 07:34 AM
nice , may you didn t realize
title of this topic is "What about cheating synd"
11 pages

Regardless, the moderators have made it clear not to discuss cheating on the forums.

Reported again.

MattThomas08
04-06-2013, 07:39 AM
Regardless, the moderators have made it clear not to discuss cheating on the forums.

Reported again.

I know a guy whose wife cheated on him. It was terrible. Please report this post.

Dipstik
04-06-2013, 07:39 AM
I think it's different for people who advertise their cheating in the forum. *cough*grimm*cough*

Dipstik
04-06-2013, 07:42 AM
Due to posting guidelines, I can't be any more specific.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:11 AM
^ All of the above have been reported for cheating allegations and harassment.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:14 AM
we can go back on topic ? or you still need to report something else ?

Since your post didn't contain any allegations of cheating then there is nothing to report :)

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:20 AM
ok sound good !!! :cool:

Reported for offensive signature.

Dipstik
04-06-2013, 08:22 AM
I'm not alleging that anyone's syndicate took advantage of cash glitches to unlock all the bonuses.. GRIMMY11

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:26 AM
really , i just make public relations for you
that s not again guidelines :o
please read those guidelines before report someone

Thanks, that's beautiful man!

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:30 AM
gigantic images in your signature
sorry pal must rererereport you

Really, I take it you will be reporting all members of HTC, Silent Assassins, Fight Club etc.. for their images. It is the same size as theirs.

In the meantime you have been reported for harassment.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:36 AM
yours is bigger double check plz
and stop spamming

My image was reviewed before and was found to be acceptable. Please stop harassing and stalking me.

Grimmy11
04-06-2013, 08:43 AM
@crimecity71, STFU. Thank you. You keep spamming the forum by saying that you're reporting Grimmy every time he posts. Please just stop, it's getting annoying.

Thanks mate, he follows me around like a puppy dog and posts in every thread that I post in. Just hit the report button in the bottom left side of the screen if he gets too much.