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CJ54
03-26-2013, 02:37 PM
Hello all, just thought that I would toss some info out about Limited Time Quests (the current event, Superiority, is one of this type). People who play KA or MQ will recognize these from those games.

During a Limited Time Quest Event, you have several days (the time will be listed in the game) to complete a visible quest chain. These quests are similar to other quests that already exist in the game. Each quest will give a reward of some kind upon completion. At the end of the chain, you will receive a larger reward.

After that, you will have the option to do the quest chain again in Heroic Mode. Heroic Mode has the same chain of quests, but requires slightly more of each requirement to pass the quests. The grand prize for the event is awarded to everyone who completes Heroic Mode.

We've been trying out some cool things over in the other games with these, and we are glad to bring them to Modern War. Since this is a new feature here, this first iteration is relatively straightforward compared to some of the ones we have had recently in the other games, but we look forward to building this new event type out in the future.

Have fun and good luck, everyone.

Sillybeans
03-26-2013, 02:38 PM
Will we get the extra day we missed due to late implementing?

SoccerStud
03-26-2013, 02:38 PM
Hello all, just thought that I would toss some info out about Limited Time Quests (the current event, Superiority, is one of this type). People who play KA or MQ will recognize these from those games.

During a Limited Time Quest Event, you have several days (the time will be listed in the game) to complete a visible quest chain. These quests are similar to other quests that already exist in the game. Each quest will give a reward of some kind upon completion. At the end of the chain, you will receive a larger reward.

After that, you will have the option to do the quest chain again in Heroic Mode. Heroic Mode has the same chain of quests, but requires slightly more of each requirement to pass the quests. The grand prize for the event is awarded to everyone who completes Heroic Mode.

We've been trying out some cool things over in the other games with these, and we are glad to bring them to Modern War. Since this is a new feature here, this first iteration is relatively straightforward compared to some of the ones we have had recently in the other games, but we look forward to building this new event type out in the future.

Have fun and good luck, everyone.
Before you leave, is there heroic quest line on this event as well?

procsyzarc
03-26-2013, 02:39 PM
So does this first one have heroic mode? Wasn't specified on the splash screen but that was the same in MQ with the first heroic one

Thief
03-26-2013, 02:41 PM
Less than 3 Days is exteremely short time window for this type of Event CJ. As SillyBeans has mentioned i would hope we would recieve an additional 25 hours to complete.

Also what happens if we beat the Event in Normal Mode? Is there a prize that isn't "Grand"

procsyzarc
03-26-2013, 02:42 PM
Less than 3 Days is exteremely short time window for this type of Event CJ. As SillyBeans has mentioned i would hope we would recieve an additional 25 hours to complete.

Also what happens if we beat the Event in Normal Mode? Is there a prize that isn't "Grand"

In other games yes. Heroic mode will often be for example 4000a:3000d then normal would be 3000a :2200d.

Also there are usally nice prizes along the way so even if you can't get the top prize it pays to go as far as possible

Ghost Recon
03-26-2013, 02:45 PM
Thanks for the guide, CJ. Will the event be extended?

Sillybeans
03-26-2013, 02:49 PM
Less than 3 Days is exteremely short time window for this type of Event CJ. As SillyBeans has mentioned i would hope we would recieve an additional 25 hours to complete.

Also what happens if we beat the Event in Normal Mode? Is there a prize that isn't "Grand"

he 2.8k unit is awsome but we are getting units.. my 1year vet was my worst unit and its disappeared now not sure what it was but its over 120atk

CJ54
03-26-2013, 03:16 PM
Yes to the heroic mode on this one, probably no to the event being extended due to nudging up against the other event this weekend. But I'll inquire.

Ghost Recon
03-26-2013, 03:21 PM
Is the prize advertised in the splash screen the prize for completling heroic or is it for completing normal?

mwmark
03-26-2013, 03:21 PM
I'm noticing that some reward units are indestructible and some have casualty rates, is this expected?

ProCision
03-26-2013, 04:13 PM
Im on Android and its still not coming up for me, keeps saying updating.

CJ54
03-26-2013, 04:31 PM
Is the prize advertised in the splash screen the prize for completling heroic or is it for completing normal?

That's for finishing everything, which includes Heroic.

Ryans67
03-26-2013, 04:35 PM
Are you serious? We are screwed on the time as it is....And now the prize!!!

Lucky4u
03-26-2013, 04:39 PM
CJ at least reduced the raids on those buildings that producing a lot of casualty units...

shynniez
03-26-2013, 04:50 PM
9/30 : Win 17 consecutive battles 15 EXP 9890 Cash 1 concrete
10/30: Raid 20 Supply depots 18 EXP 12910 Cash 1x Reinforced Guardian 72/151 ( infantry)
11/30: Win 20fights/5conse fights 20 EXP 16925 Cash 1 concrete
12/30: Raid 29 Shipyards 23 EXp 22162 Cash 1x Formidable Talon 188/82 ( Air )
13/30: Raid 34 Armories 25 EXP 28875 Cash 1 concrete
14/30: Win 40 fights 28 EXP 37340 Cash 1x Deadly Bridge Jumper 237/95 ( ground - 20% faster health regen)
15/30: Raid 47 Guard towers 31 EXP 47860 Cash 1 concrete
16/30: Win 24 fights/raid 30 MMarket 37 EXP 60762 Cash 1x Modified Fighter 228/157 ( air - Cas rate : Low)
17/30: Win 36 fights/raid 25 barrack 43 EXP 76400 Cash 1 concrete
18/30: Win 57 fights/10 conse fights 49 EXP 95150 Cash 1x Communications Specialist 306/156 ( infantry)
19/30: Raid 40 Munitions/Win 40 fights 56 EXP 117415 Cash 1 concrete
20/30: Raid 43 N.G.Plants/win 46 fights 64 EXP 143622 Cash 1x Riptide Runner 325/225 ( sea - cas rate : low)
21/30: Win 102 Fights 72 EXP 174225 Cash 1 concrete
22/30: Raid 75 WFarms/36 Airfields

These above are normal mode.... Expect the heroic mode... :/

Hondo
03-26-2013, 04:53 PM
Let me get this straight. Gree shorts us a day and still wants us to go through the event twice? Thats just wrong Gree.

mxz
03-26-2013, 04:56 PM
Let me get this straight. Gree shorts us a day and still wants us to go through the event twice? Thats just wrong Gree.You know they can't push back events once they announce them.

...oh wait :rolleyes:

Denerio9
03-26-2013, 05:00 PM
Not only that we have a time limit quest we have to go thru twice :
My limited quest started late ... My faction teammates
Were posting that it started & i had to wait approx 45 min
To join in on this quest

vball
03-26-2013, 05:06 PM
I am not showing any prize on my android? Does anyone else have that problem?

CRAWFORD
03-26-2013, 05:10 PM
Im not sure they have a heroic mode on this one. It says nothing about doing the whole thing twice. I've only seen it here. No offense CJ I know you know more than I do.

Oceanz
03-26-2013, 05:11 PM
9/30 : Win 17 consecutive battles 15 EXP 9890 Cash 1 concrete
10/30: Raid 20 Supply depots 18 EXP 12910 Cash 1x Reinforced Guardian 72/151 ( infantry)
11/30: Win 20fights/5conse fights 20 EXP 16925 Cash 1 concrete
12/30: Raid 29 Shipyards 23 EXp 22162 Cash 1x Formidable Talon 188/82 ( Air )
13/30: Raid 34 Armories 25 EXP 28875 Cash 1 concrete
14/30: Win 40 fights 28 EXP 37340 Cash 1x Deadly Bridge Jumper 237/95 ( ground - 20% faster health regen)
15/30: Raid 47 Guard towers 31 EXP 47860 Cash 1 concrete
16/30: Win 24 fights/raid 30 MMarket 37 EXP 60762 Cash 1x Modified Fighter 228/157 ( air - Cas rate : Low)
17/30: Win 36 fights/raid 25 barrack 43 EXP 76400 Cash 1 concrete
18/30: Win 57 fights/10 conse fights 49 EXP 95150 Cash 1x Communications Specialist 306/156 ( infantry)
19/30: Raid 40 Munitions/Win 40 fights 56 EXP 117415 Cash 1 concrete
20/30: Raid 43 N.G.Plants/win 46 fights 64 EXP 143622 Cash 1x Riptide Runner 325/225 ( sea - cas rate : low)
21/30: Win 102 Fights 72 EXP 174225 Cash 1 concrete
22/30: Raid 75 WFarms/36 Airfields

These above are normal mode.... Expect the heroic mode... :/

I've done 9 of them so far

Even though it kinda sucks doing all 30 (once) won't get you the advertised unit on the splash screen, I do like being able to look forward to getting good units after completing 10, 12, 14, etc

CRAWFORD
03-26-2013, 05:55 PM
I'll get a gold refund if they misadvertise me. Says nothing about a heroic mode. I started it and lost lots of units. I'm going to finish it.

spoolinq
03-26-2013, 06:02 PM
I'll get a gold refund if they misadvertise me. Says nothing about a heroic mode. I started it and lost lots of units. I'm going to finish it.

Do we gain any units along the way the 2nd time around? Or only the grand prize at the grand finish (twice)?

procsyzarc
03-26-2013, 06:02 PM
I'll get a gold refund if they misadvertise me. Says nothing about a heroic mode. I started it and lost lots of units. I'm going to finish it.

Wouldn't count on it, same thing happened with first LTQ in MQ that had a heroic mode that wasn't adverstised people put in tickets and got told tough luck

killerm2
03-26-2013, 06:06 PM
cj, you realize how many people quit as soon as you said that?you need to put the instuctions on start page.your wrong dude.

Grand Overlord
03-26-2013, 06:11 PM
This is wrong!

I can accept the fact that the event started late - though it is very annoying.

I can also accept that the "information" that was posted here came out about the same time that the event started - again very annoying.

The real problem is the completely false and misleading advertising about the prize. There is no indication anywhere that you have to complete these quests twice to get the major prize. People will be spending real money to get a prize that won't happen. Not only that, but they will lose units that have taken hundreds of hours to accumulate.

Misleading and deceptive conduct is illegal in Australia - I would assume the same to be true in many other countries in which this game is played.

Jhenry02
03-26-2013, 06:25 PM
And when the falsely advertised product isn't received, you call apple and have them refund the bought gold.

-J

Oceanz
03-26-2013, 06:51 PM
This is wrong!

I can accept the fact that the event started late - though it is very annoying.

I can also accept that the "information" that was posted here came out about the same time that the event started - again very annoying.

The real problem is the completely false and misleading advertising about the prize. There is no indication anywhere that you have to complete these quests twice to get the major prize. People will be spending real money to get a prize that won't happen. Not only that, but they will lose units that have taken hundreds of hours to accumulate.

Misleading and deceptive conduct is illegal in Australia - I would assume the same to be true in many other countries in which this game is played.

I'm not even halfway through the quest, so I'm not sure what some of the higher level quest events are, but so far it seems no gold is needed at all for this questline.

Commander Ghost
03-26-2013, 06:59 PM
Fasle advertisement at its best. I fully expected to get the grand prize after doing this thirty round event only once. Not doing this 30 round event twice.

NaRciS
03-26-2013, 07:11 PM
Are you serious about this???

Admin please confirm...

Erkensang
03-26-2013, 07:16 PM
So we have to beat this 2 times to receive the tank

Hound Dog
03-26-2013, 07:33 PM
My LLP is level 10 and this hasn't started for me. Is there a minimum level to begin this mission?

RollTide
03-26-2013, 07:37 PM
So we have to beat this 2 times to receive the tank

Really CJ, well liked in KA?? These are lame events in KA and you roll them out in MW with 2d not 5d? In addition, it's only in KA the big high level players even have a chance at running through the "heroic" mode which is not on ANY splash page. It kills the a/d stats, you gain no real units. In this MW rollout the casualty loss is ridiculous

And yes unless they fix it it's 60 not 30 times to get the "prize"

Ryans67
03-26-2013, 07:46 PM
I highly doubt many will be able to finish the standard event, let alone heroic mode. The gas plant requirements are rediculous!

LW okie
03-26-2013, 07:50 PM
Casualty rate is not worth it. Not playing, not wasting my valor units

Oceanz
03-26-2013, 07:53 PM
I highly doubt many will be able to finish the standard event, let alone heroic mode. The gas plant requirements are rediculous!

haha, the Gas Plant raiding is ridiculous? they might be hard to find, but once you find one, its done...THATS the one you're saying is ridiculous? lol

Jhenry02
03-26-2013, 07:54 PM
Wait till 40 Mitary markets

Archer59
03-26-2013, 07:56 PM
Just....don't....do....the....event. These are not fun in KA and I'm assuming its not too fun here. Do yourself a favor and put on a pair of gloves with REALLY THICK fingers so you can't press the buttons. ;)

Ryans67
03-26-2013, 07:56 PM
Yea your about 20 steps behind. Try raiding 43 of them....

Oceanz
03-26-2013, 08:29 PM
Oh, didn't know there was another Gas plant raid, ouch!

PITA4PRES
03-26-2013, 09:08 PM
I agree. I have only come across one that even had one that I could raid, and I lost the raid because his stats were too high for me to beat. I gave it a shot at least. If they would give you the chance to see what the tasks are that need to be completed, it would be help because you could look to see if there is something that you could complete so you're not wasting your time going from base to base and not be able to do anything.


I highly doubt many will be able to finish the standard event, let alone heroic mode. The gas plant requirements are rediculous!

puffypete
03-26-2013, 09:20 PM
Just suck it up people and deal with it! So GREE shorts us a day. Get over and fight the battles or pack up your sissy whining mouths and play FarmVille. Nothing but complaining and whining. What are we, 6? 7?

Devin
03-26-2013, 09:20 PM
Hi folks,

Does anyone know why in the goals screen it says out of 3, as though there are 3 goals associated with this LTQ? I'm close to finishing it on normal.... And plan to on heroic. Suddenly I'm concerned there's a 3rd run through?

Thanks,

Sillybeans
03-27-2013, 02:38 AM
Throw in some more units like the 14th goal one and we'll call it even :P

Bobar
03-27-2013, 06:17 AM
That's for finishing everything, which includes Heroic.

starts getting outrageous

NaRciS
03-27-2013, 06:40 AM
No this shouldn't be changed but left as it was advertised!

We have the screen shots, no mention of hero on splash screen, no mention of hero in game.

Sorry... but a lot of time, units, leveling up, and gold went to win this grand prize.

BadBoyz
03-27-2013, 06:51 AM
No this shouldn't be changed but left as it was advertised!

We have the screen shots, no mention of hero on splash screen, no mention of hero in game.

Sorry... but a lot of time, units, leveling up, and gold went to win this grand prize.

I have to agree, there are many players out there that don't even know this forum exists. I also have a screen shot of the event and it says nothing about finishing the event twice to receive the prize unit. The advertisement pop up Is misleading. If they intended the event to have two or three rounds, it should have been displayed.

Bob_55
03-27-2013, 06:59 AM
Again and Again, they forgot communication with their customers is the key. Great job again.

sparckle
03-27-2013, 07:24 AM
The cycle continues on...

You people throw money at Gree. Gree converts it to bullsh!t to throw back at you. If you don't want anymore bullsh!t maybe stop spending? Ever occur to any of you?

Fivestars02
03-27-2013, 11:30 AM
Hei CJ aim playing a lot of PVP but no splash screen, how you trigger the event??

LagBolt
03-27-2013, 11:33 AM
Hei CJ aim playing a lot of PVP but no splash screen, how you trigger the event??

Look at your goals in the top left of your screen. The limited goal is what you are doing, it has already been triggered. I think the first goal is to attack guard towers, so do that if you want to start an endless road harder challenges

Willt
03-27-2013, 08:03 PM
So I'm willing to deal with ridiculous high losses thinking, "the end unit will be worth it". 4 hours of looking for military markets to raid unsuccessfully. Screw you Gree seriously.

Thanks for wasting my time money and stats.

Wish I would have stopped after the first guard tower I hit.

SilentWolf
03-27-2013, 08:30 PM
GREE YOU sUuck, still no event I'm on a kindle fire get your shyt straight!!!! Send out an update do something rather then sit there like a bunch of fatties!!!!

aether100
03-27-2013, 08:39 PM
"Heroic Mode has the same chain of quests, but requires slightly more of each requirement to pass the quests"????

Really ? Slightly more? I'm at level 10 heroic and instead of 20 supply depot hits it takes 45.

I couldn't imagine getting to 30 with over one day less then originally planned without a ton of gold. :-(

Gambit12
03-27-2013, 08:42 PM
Hello all, just thought that I would toss some info out about Limited Time Quests (the current event, Superiority, is one of this type). People who play KA or MQ will recognize these from those games.

During a Limited Time Quest Event, you have several days (the time will be listed in the game) to complete a visible quest chain. These quests are similar to other quests that already exist in the game. Each quest will give a reward of some kind upon completion. At the end of the chain, you will receive a larger reward.

After that, you will have the option to do the quest chain again in Heroic Mode. Heroic Mode has the same chain of quests, but requires slightly more of each requirement to pass the quests. The grand prize for the event is awarded to everyone who completes Heroic Mode.

We've been trying out some cool things over in the other games with these, and we are glad to bring them to Modern War. Since this is a new feature here, this first iteration is relatively straightforward compared to some of the ones we have had recently in the other games, but we look forward to building this new event type out in the future.

Have fun and good luck, everyone.


How can you find 30 military market like in KA for the Castle. I've been looking for it like almost all day now & still not even 1 military market is available to raid. This LTQ is non sense...:mad:

dloh1970
03-27-2013, 09:42 PM
If anything sounds too good to be true,..chances are it is..lol..just like that super jet with zillion attacks n defends if u reached lvl 250 by the end of the month by 1 pm or something...

gero
03-27-2013, 09:58 PM
CJ, so it is only after the event has been in progress for some time that you/Gree clarify that you have to go through the LTQ twice in order to get the prize advertised in the splash scree? What type of bunk is that? That is a blatant bait and switch. As per usual if there was clear direction (or any details for matter of fact) people would have changed their approach to game play. I definitely would not have used gold and would not have continued past level 14. The prizes are no where near a fraction of what is being lost.
Please confirm the prize after the first round of 30. If not the splash screen tank, I want my gold refunded and my units replenished.

Ranger4Life
03-27-2013, 10:10 PM
Throw in some more units like the 14th goal one and we'll call it even :P

Hmmmmm. Maybe there is.... :D

Skyser30518
03-27-2013, 10:40 PM
At least go back to the old rival list where I can add and delete allies to move into differents tiers and search for the buildings I need. Right now I'm stuck.

Daveraz
03-28-2013, 01:17 AM
The best part about this challenge for people that have no chance of completion is the level 14 Deadly Bridge Jumper with 20% faster health regeneration reduction, but looking at my stats it seems to have REDUCED my health regeneration to 5% overall!!!!! Most of my faction have experienced similar. Is this just a temporary glitch or am I going to get a nasty shock when I get to the Battle for China CJ54?

Omotose
03-28-2013, 02:04 AM
I just completed all 30 levels and got a lame tank! Not the one advertised at the start of the event! NO WAY! This is a lie! I want all my money back for gold! This is outrageous! I was so focused on getting through the event I didn't check this forum until I started checking for answers as to why I did not get the big reward. I have been ripped off!

Mcdoc
03-28-2013, 02:31 AM
Concrete as a reward ? REALLY? At least in the KA LTQ's - almost all of the loot are 3 digit stat indestructible - really let down that you would throw a chunk of concrete out as a prize when I can get those all day long with PvP - plus my Faction already has enough concrete for the rest of this year's battles - kinda over it!

WHO at Gree put's this much value in Concrete ? It is also crappy as a reward in the Crate events when you spend 15 gold to do the guaranteed open and WHAM - get hit in the head with a concrete block. PLEASE realize that a concrete block is a piece of CRAP and not a reward.

Better 3 digit loot along the way will get people to go farther in these quests. 3 digit prizes (310 att / 290 def) in normal mode - 4 digit prizes (1270 attack / 1042 def) in Hero - now THAT would motivate people!

If you want people to drop 2 to 3 vaults on this event - you need to replace the concrete prizes with 3 digit indestructibles - AND - lose the raid mission - keep it ALL PvE so people can push through it based on their individual efforts and not whether they can find an uncollected building!

This first LTQ in MW = F-A-I-L

MadFox
03-28-2013, 02:52 AM
Concrete as a reward ? REALLY? At least in the KA LTQ's - almost all of the loot are 3 digit stat indestructible - really let down that you would throw a chunk of concrete out as a prize when I can get those all day long with PvP - plus my Faction already has enough concrete for the rest of this year's battles - kinda over it!

WHO at Gree put's this much value in Concrete ? It is also crappy as a reward in the Crate events when you spend 15 gold to do the guaranteed open and WHAM - get hit in the head with a concrete block. PLEASE realize that a concrete block is a piece of CRAP and not a reward.

Better 3 digit loot along the way will get people to go farther in these quests. 3 digit prizes (310 att / 290 def) in normal mode - 4 digit prizes (1270 attack / 1042 def) in Hero - now THAT would motivate people!

If you want people to drop 2 to 3 vaults on this event - you need to replace the concrete prizes with 3 digit indestructibles - AND - lose the raid mission - keep it ALL PvE so people can push through it based on their individual efforts and not whether they can find an uncollected building!

This first LTQ in MW = F-A-I-L

I totally agree with that!
Just compare rewards with XPs earned...every LLP who wants to go through that must be nuts...for concrete? And destructible units??? Lol
Plus: false advertising! Where are the lawyers? ;)
BIG FAIL in MW...KA is much better on those events... Maybe switch some of the peeps that are responsible...

GREE, why do you continue to do this to the MW players?

START TO LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMER!

Again...a happy customer will spend even more? Ever heard of this? To me it seems NO...but I think positive and guess you will do things better....thank you in advance.

kaix
03-28-2013, 03:36 AM
Welcome

To

China Invasion Stupidiority

Stormageddon
03-28-2013, 04:30 AM
This is BS CJ my phone says nothing about completing this event twice ive been bustin my ass to do it once not that you need it good luck getting me to spend a cent on this game. Wait till everyone else gets sick of paying for your game

Stormageddon
03-28-2013, 04:33 AM
The best part about this challenge for people that have no chance of completion is the level 14 Deadly Bridge Jumper with 20% faster health regeneration reduction, but looking at my stats it seems to have REDUCED my health regeneration to 5% overall!!!!! Most of my faction have experienced similar. Is this just a temporary glitch or am I going to get a nasty shock when I get to the Battle for China CJ54?

yea mine and my faction m8s who got the unit our health regen went up

kelvinng
03-28-2013, 04:36 AM
i am stuck at lvl 20, crazy to hunt 43 rival natural gas plant. give up

GuyInLobsterSuit
03-28-2013, 04:53 AM
On the basis CJ states Gree monitor forum for event feedback...

I add my voice to the assertion that there should, as a bare minimum, be "Truth in advertising".
The splash screen does not make it clear that the prize requires completion of (something called) Heroic mode.

kaix
03-28-2013, 06:07 AM
Was very disappoint , I finish the level 30... And did not get what the picture shown own the pop up.....and I must play part 2....

I lost half of my units......already and use up a lot of gold also....

Admin...pls do something as promise....

If not maybe u should state it clear...part 1 ...w
U get this and part 2 u get what it shown on the pop up....

DesertFox
03-28-2013, 07:10 AM
I feel the need to chime in here, just in case you guys do listen to customer feedback:

1) The reward shown on the splash screen is not the reward, oh waith there is a part 2, would be nice if you stated that SOMEPLACE in the game so we don't have to come to the forums to find out there was a bait and switch pulled on us.

2) The event does not start on time so now ppl that thought they might like to try and complete it have close to no chance to complete it, hey just push back the China event, it is after all scheduled for a major US holiday weekend, nice planning there.

3) the casualty rates, just rediculous! I don't care that I loose 3 scouts or engineers, per battle vs a tower, but in a PvP against a guy 10k defense lower than my attack rating, WHY am I loosing my top level valor units to this guy, and not 2-3 scouts as well, terrible imbalance there.

4) If we are taking the time and making the effort to search out and find the XX number of hard to find builidings we need to attack, maybe in the find enemy button, you could do us the courtesy of matching us up with other players not of the SAME level, but with the same Attack/Defense levels. It does me no good to find a guy with a building that is attackable and he's got 50k more defense than I have Attack. so then we go searching again and find 3 other players that we could attack, but they have already been raided. Maybe those ppl that have been raided could be taken OFF that search result when we click the button to find targets for that specific goal, just a thought.

5) Why would ANY of these units from the LTQ have a causualty rate, they should all be indestructible units for the level of aggravation it took to get them.

6) Last Gripe, CONCRETE... Concrete is not a reward, it's a slap in the face, take it out of the loot tables for ALL EVENTS, this is a joke, leave it for PvP, or put it in bundles of 10 on the daily scratch cards, but get it out of your heads that a SINGLE BLOCK OF CONCRETE is in any way a reward for a loss of 50+ troops, and up to 3 hours of time and effort to complete one of these goals, seriously WAKE UP!!!!

I've done through mission 16 on normal level, (heroic yeah right, not happening) I wish more of these units had a bonus associated like the mission 14 reward with the 20% health regen, and while I'm on that, WTF?
Ok health regen, I have Energy & Stamina, no where do I have Health, so what's getting regenerated, is it just & only my health in the faction wars, if so, kinda lame that it only takes effect for one event in the game vs all the time. So I have a 20% health regen from the Bridge Jumper unit, 30% health regen from my faction bonuses, and my stats screen shows -1% Health Regen, does Gree have a hard time with MATH, what's going on????

/end rant

Dutchie
03-28-2013, 07:19 AM
Here is a great post explaining the health regeneration which is used in the Epic Boss and WD events -

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?49782-How-to-calculate-health-regen&p=668478&viewfull=1#post668478

I hope this helps with your last paragraph in your rant :)

I agree on many of the points that you made, especially no.6!

Meta Rage Trollbot
03-28-2013, 07:25 AM
I agree with some of the rants, but this is the first time Gree's done this event. Maybe just making them aware that it is too punishing is enought (though the whole "Heroic" issue was beyond unappreciated).

sbs2716g
03-28-2013, 08:15 AM
So when this event end? Splash screen n the timer have different end date

Stormageddon
03-28-2013, 11:26 AM
I agree with some of the rants, but this is the first time Gree's done this event. Maybe just making them aware that it is too punishing is enought (though the whole "Heroic" issue was beyond unappreciated).

im not sure about tht i believe they've done this type of event in one of the other games so no excuses

CJ54
03-28-2013, 11:54 AM
I'm answering this one by DesertFox specifically because it encapsulates a lot of the common feedback on the forums at the moment.


I feel the need to chime in here, just in case you guys do listen to customer feedback:

1) The reward shown on the splash screen is not the reward, oh waith there is a part 2, would be nice if you stated that SOMEPLACE in the game so we don't have to come to the forums to find out there was a bait and switch pulled on us.

2) The event does not start on time so now ppl that thought they might like to try and complete it have close to no chance to complete it, hey just push back the China event, it is after all scheduled for a major US holiday weekend, nice planning there.

3) the casualty rates, just rediculous! I don't care that I loose 3 scouts or engineers, per battle vs a tower, but in a PvP against a guy 10k defense lower than my attack rating, WHY am I loosing my top level valor units to this guy, and not 2-3 scouts as well, terrible imbalance there.

4) If we are taking the time and making the effort to search out and find the XX number of hard to find builidings we need to attack, maybe in the find enemy button, you could do us the courtesy of matching us up with other players not of the SAME level, but with the same Attack/Defense levels. It does me no good to find a guy with a building that is attackable and he's got 50k more defense than I have Attack. so then we go searching again and find 3 other players that we could attack, but they have already been raided. Maybe those ppl that have been raided could be taken OFF that search result when we click the button to find targets for that specific goal, just a thought.

5) Why would ANY of these units from the LTQ have a causualty rate, they should all be indestructible units for the level of aggravation it took to get them.

6) Last Gripe, CONCRETE... Concrete is not a reward, it's a slap in the face, take it out of the loot tables for ALL EVENTS, this is a joke, leave it for PvP, or put it in bundles of 10 on the daily scratch cards, but get it out of your heads that a SINGLE BLOCK OF CONCRETE is in any way a reward for a loss of 50+ troops, and up to 3 hours of time and effort to complete one of these goals, seriously WAKE UP!!!!

I've done through mission 16 on normal level, (heroic yeah right, not happening) I wish more of these units had a bonus associated like the mission 14 reward with the 20% health regen, and while I'm on that, WTF?
Ok health regen, I have Energy & Stamina, no where do I have Health, so what's getting regenerated, is it just & only my health in the faction wars, if so, kinda lame that it only takes effect for one event in the game vs all the time. So I have a 20% health regen from the Bridge Jumper unit, 30% health regen from my faction bonuses, and my stats screen shows -1% Health Regen, does Gree have a hard time with MATH, what's going on????

/end rant

1) We're changing the text on the pop-up as soon as possible. Here's how that happened with some backstory: When we started having heroic mode for the grand prize over in KA and MQ, we didn't have a note on it that the big prize was for heroic. We got a lot of understandable flak for that, and changed it over there. The thing is, our KA and MQ teams are NOT the same team that works on Modern War and this info about the pop-up was not passed between teams when MW rolled their LTQ. Talking to the devs, I think they just used the original KA/MQ pop-up design as a template (they were working on porting the LTQ mechanic before the thing came up in KA and MQ). Some of us who work on both games in one capacity or another spotted it in a meeting about ten minutes after it went live, spit out our coffee, and sent out a message to the MW devs about it. I wanted to wait till we had confirmation on the issue before posting about it.

TLDR version is, we lacked the more complete messaging because one hand didn't know what the other was up to. It happens sometimes when you have multiple small teams and a very high information flow.

2) I feel the pain there and the devs are aware.

3) We've been taking another look at the casualty algorithm, but as I've said before we didn't change anything. As for the distribution, if your scouts aren't in combat (i.e. one of your used units) they will not be considered for casualty.

4) This is a fair point and probably needs some rebalancing. Our team has been compiling feedback and that's going to go back up the chain, but it is actually a fairly complex operation because it has to do with what is available to whom and everyone is in a different place.

5) + 6) We're open to suggestions on what our power-players feel like constitute good "mid-level" rewards for things. When I say "mid-level" I mean "between indestructibles or bonus items and things you can get really easily". This is actually an on-going back and forth over here based on player feedback, and in MW specifically it seems to be harder to select good mid-level awards than, say, KA or CC.

7) Health regen is for bosses/boss-like mechanics. The subtraction/addition issue is a display bug in your profile on iOS only, it works correctly on the server and we're fixing it in a binary.



I agree with some of the rants, but this is the first time Gree's done this event. Maybe just making them aware that it is too punishing is enought (though the whole "Heroic" issue was beyond unappreciated).

That's mainly it. The LTQ porting was going on while KA was really refining their LTQs, and some of those balance refinements didn't make it to MW yet. Also, different games, vastly different balance even though they look similar in some regards.


im not sure about tht i believe they've done this type of event in one of the other games so no excuses

Different teams, different games have vastly different internal balance (and player profiles, for that matter, in some cases).

SevenO9
03-28-2013, 12:07 PM
The LTQs in KA are superb. If after some iterations and a certain learning curve we reach the same quality and maturity here in MW I am willing to wait and swallow my anger. Lets give them some time.

Dom3
03-28-2013, 12:14 PM
I still believe the concept is very good, though it will require tweaking then it will be awesome.

Stinno
03-28-2013, 12:17 PM
Thanks for at least coming back with comments, i am sure it is appreciated but i also hope u can see everyones frustration at this. And i at least think that GREE should and must legally give everyone who made it to 30 the full prize as way of apology and to keep customers happy. And for the next time round make the changes. I actually like the concept it just needs some refinement and i think it will be a success. Cheers

Ssne
03-28-2013, 12:18 PM
In both KA and MW, however, cas rates are a problem when doing PVP and raiding non-money producing buildings.

I abandoned the MW event this time during the 47 guard tower raids, as I was experiencing massive losses against far inferior-stat players of my high-value units. For example, in one attack, my attack score of ~105K against a private-rank 7K defender (seven K, not 17K, not 70K) against his Level 1 guard tower, I lost a transport raider, an elite heli, and a BWT. The event ended for me right at that moment.

Beau Ner
03-28-2013, 09:13 PM
Thanks CJ for your response here. I to have had some similar feelings about a lot of those points brought up. At the same time though I like the idea behind this event and would love to see them continue in the future

Selfproclaimed
03-28-2013, 09:50 PM
Ill keep my rant short. I agree with everyone here, epic fail. Gree will not generate much from this type of event. No one enjoys searching for nearly 2 hours straight looking for natural gas plants,munition stockpiles, or military markets to raid just to complete 1 goal. I would pay double the gold just to show me someone who hasn't collected or been raided already. Far too time consuming.

stuartb
03-29-2013, 03:05 AM
GREE, this is classic bait-and-switch. I went through your squirrelly event and finished up last night, spending gold and hours of my time. If I had known (or even suspected) that there was a secret "Part 2" to this piece of garbage, I would never --- NEVER --- have even started it.

I have five different accounts that I play MW on. One on an iPad. One on my iPhone. One on my wife's iPhone. One on my PC using a phone emulator. And one on my Kindle.

I sat it out on four of those five accounts because there was not enough time to complete the event. So I went through it on my iPhone account and SAT THE F OUT ON THE OTHER FOUR. And if I had had any clue that GREE would be so bold as to cheat me on this contest with a double-secret second set of rules, I would have sat out all five.

This is a new low, even for GREE. Screw you and the horse you rode in on. And go ahead and ban me -- I don't come out here any more anyway because I am so sick of your bull****.

mickymacirl
03-29-2013, 03:09 AM
Ill keep my rant short. I agree with everyone here, epic fail. Gree will not generate much from this type of event. No one enjoys searching for nearly 2 hours straight looking for natural gas plants,munition stockpiles, or military markets to raid just to complete 1 goal. I would pay double the gold just to show me someone who hasn't collected or been raided already. Far too time consuming.

Try 38 hours for 19/30 on the first run, redic!

Philsbase
03-29-2013, 03:34 AM
Yep I only realised we had to do a part 2 when I was on lv29 of part 1 .... I feel mislead and conned into wasting gold and time.....



GREE, this is classic bait-and-switch. I went through your squirrelly event and finished up last night, spending gold and hours of my time. If I had known (or even suspected) that there was a secret "Part 2" to this piece of garbage, I would never --- NEVER --- have even started it.

I have five different accounts that I play MW on. One on an iPad. One on my iPhone. One on my wife's iPhone. One on my PC using a phone emulator. And one on my Kindle.

I sat it out on four of those five accounts because there was not enough time to complete the event. So I went through it on my iPhone account and SAT THE F OUT ON THE OTHER FOUR. And if I had had any clue that GREE would be so bold as to cheat me on this contest with a double-secret second set of rules, I would have sat out all five.

This is a new low, even for GREE. Screw you and the horse you rode in on. And go ahead and ban me -- I don't come out here any more anyway because I am so sick of your bull****.

hoho
03-29-2013, 03:40 AM
this is brilliant ... a better matching to help us find those (unraided) target building for each mission and better rival.




4) If we are taking the time and making the effort to search out and find the XX number of hard to find builidings we need to attack, maybe in the find enemy button, you could do us the courtesy of matching us up with other players not of the SAME level, but with the same Attack/Defense levels. It does me no good to find a guy with a building that is attackable and he's got 50k more defense than I have Attack. so then we go searching again and find 3 other players that we could attack, but they have already been raided. Maybe those ppl that have been raided could be taken OFF that search result when we click the button to find targets for that specific goal, just a thought.

Stormageddon
03-29-2013, 05:51 AM
what are you guys crying about ive spent three days trying to find munitions stockpile

NaRciS
03-29-2013, 08:39 AM
I'm answering this one by DesertFox specifically because it encapsulates a lot of the common feedback on the forums at the moment.



1) We're changing the text on the pop-up as soon as possible. Here's how that happened with some backstory: When we started having heroic mode for the grand prize over in KA and MQ, we didn't have a note on it that the big prize was for heroic. We got a lot of understandable flak for that, and changed it over there. The thing is, our KA and MQ teams are NOT the same team that works on Modern War and this info about the pop-up was not passed between teams when MW rolled their LTQ. Talking to the devs, I think they just used the original KA/MQ pop-up design as a template (they were working on porting the LTQ mechanic before the thing came up in KA and MQ). Some of us who work on both games in one capacity or another spotted it in a meeting about ten minutes after it went live, spit out our coffee, and sent out a message to the MW devs about it. I wanted to wait till we had confirmation on the issue before posting about it.

TLDR version is, we lacked the more complete messaging because one hand didn't know what the other was up to. It happens sometimes when you have multiple small teams and a very high information flow.

2) I feel the pain there and the devs are aware.

3) We've been taking another look at the casualty algorithm, but as I've said before we didn't change anything. As for the distribution, if your scouts aren't in combat (i.e. one of your used units) they will not be considered for casualty.

4) This is a fair point and probably needs some rebalancing. Our team has been compiling feedback and that's going to go back up the chain, but it is actually a fairly complex operation because it has to do with what is available to whom and everyone is in a different place.

5) + 6) We're open to suggestions on what our power-players feel like constitute good "mid-level" rewards for things. When I say "mid-level" I mean "between indestructibles or bonus items and things you can get really easily". This is actually an on-going back and forth over here based on player feedback, and in MW specifically it seems to be harder to select good mid-level awards than, say, KA or CC.

7) Health regen is for bosses/boss-like mechanics. The subtraction/addition issue is a display bug in your profile on iOS only, it works correctly on the server and we're fixing it in a binary.




That's mainly it. The LTQ porting was going on while KA was really refining their LTQs, and some of those balance refinements didn't make it to MW yet. Also, different games, vastly different balance even though they look similar in some regards.



Different teams, different games have vastly different internal balance (and player profiles, for that matter, in some cases).

Hi Cj,

Thanks for this, sent a ticket in and pm'd you, not heard but i know your all busy :)

I wanted to try and sort before china so feel I have to now post here, obviously the splash screen did confirm the prize would be given out when completing the event called "Superiority" which only a few have, including myself and one of my members, The second event is called "Superiority II" therefore making it a completely different to the one advertised :)

Can you confirm when the prize will be updated :)

Thanks for all your help again.