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Jhenry02
03-24-2013, 12:57 AM
I have seen a few posts about this already. But none that I have seen show this disparity.

Yeah Gree,
I don't like your new algorithm. Obviously my stats are crap for my level. So I can't even find the players worse off than me. Also somehow battle strategery and logic misfired a bit.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x105/JasonHenry2002/5B59BAA5-E9C9-4DE8-87D5-3D6E41C7BE4C-17750-00001305EBD27A7B_zpsd3b0996d.jpg

Yeah, this wasn't even a massive fluctuation issue, that seems to have been fixed.
But in that fix we learn that a larger army doesn't always prevail.
So of all things in a vacuum and all things being equal, how does 53,000 become greater than 64,000? I want my tree sniper and super hornet back!

-Jason

Edit: PS sorry for the large image. The cable from computer to phone doesn't want to work properly so editing down the size didn't work.

Tito89
03-24-2013, 01:01 AM
this happens to me alot too. the majority of battles ive lost have been because of this.

PIRATE JUSTICE
03-24-2013, 01:26 AM
This one defies logic. It appears this constant fritzing and tweaking creates issues far worse than the problem they were designed to remediate.
I have seen a few posts about this already. But none that I have seen show this disparity.Yeah Gree, I don't like your new algorithm. Obviously my stats are crap for my level. So I can't even find the players worse off than me. Also somehow battle strategery and logic misfired a bit. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x105/JasonHenry2002/5B59BAA5-E9C9-4DE8-87D5-3D6E41C7BE4C-17750-00001305EBD27A7B_zpsd3b0996d.jpgYeah, this wasn't even a massive fluctuation issue, that seems to have been fixed.But in that fix we learn that a larger army doesn't always prevail. So of all things in a vacuum and all things being equal, how does 53,000 become greater than 64,000? I want my tree sniper and super hornet back!-JasonEdit: PS sorry for the large image. The cable from computer to phone doesn't want to work properly so editing down the size didn't work.

I am a cow
03-24-2013, 02:51 AM
This guys seems to have been AFK for a while and has not updated his game... get over with it

SevenO9
03-24-2013, 03:18 AM
You're not alone brother.

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p538/AndyNeeb/f07fa80fd12476b0f0034fed9bebda42_zpse87dfbee.jpg

Jhoemel
03-24-2013, 03:47 AM
Thats a lot seven09. Cant imagine how pissed i am if i lost that kind of fight too

Kode
03-24-2013, 04:35 AM
Has anyone who has had this happen to them compared the value shown in the results screen to the player profile listed numbers? I would think its simply showing the unboosted numbers mistakenly in the results screen.

Dirk Durbin37
03-24-2013, 04:41 AM
The fluctuations are still happening and are now even larger, they are just no longer displayed. Gree pretended to fix something that people have been asking for. This is common practice for them. If we all just keep buying Gold, we will feel a lot better.

SevenO9
03-24-2013, 04:51 AM
Has anyone who has had this happen to them compared the value shown in the results screen to the player profile listed numbers? I would think its simply showing the unboosted numbers mistakenly in the results screen.

Nope. In the case of my posted battle, my profile attack is 80k, his profile def 50k. The battle screen shows 80 vs 50 and I lost.


The fluctuations are still happening and are now even larger, they are just no longer displayed. Gree pretended to fix something that people have been asking for. This is common practice for them. If we all just keep buying Gold, we will feel a lot better.

This!

Durt McGurt
03-24-2013, 04:56 AM
This guys seems to have been AFK for a while and has not updated his game... get over with it

Being AFK is not it. I had a pal who is on the updated iOS version attack me and send me the pic.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2lawyet.jpg

My defense is higher than his attack but I lost.

Jhenry02
03-24-2013, 07:30 AM
The guy I lost to had a profile defense of 52k.
Maybe after the weekend we can get some definitive answers on this from a gree representative.

-Jason

zwelgjenl
03-24-2013, 07:45 AM
I still think that in the battle screen you see the faction bonusses counted to the total stats off attack and defence. But they don't count in battle.

Jhenry02
03-24-2013, 07:52 AM
Just happened again, my stats are listed at 63k/96k
Their stats, 50/52k

I posted 63k in battle screen and they posted 53k. And I lost. Which leads me to believe that the wild fluctuations are still there; just not visible.

Wait something invisible that shouldn't be? That doesn't sound like gree.
I lost more than tree snipers this time. Not a happy camper.

-Jason

zwelgjenl
03-24-2013, 07:56 AM
Was he the same flag? In my faction someone with the same flag can see my boosted stats but someone with another flag just my raw stats! Maybe that is the same in the battle report.

Agent Orange
03-24-2013, 07:59 AM
That is monumentally screwed up! Between this and the screwy rivals list it seems the next event is going to be a catastrophe.

Selfproclaimed
03-24-2013, 08:06 AM
I've beat people with 30k higher defense to my attack ( according to profile stats) but in battle results, their defense is lower than my attack. It's all screwy

manbeast
03-24-2013, 08:27 AM
Someone who's attack is 150k higher than my defense (raw stats) tried to attack me and lost twice. Bahahaha. It has to be the faction boosts finally working in pvp. He is in a weaker faction and prob doesn't have much bonuses. Or maybe it's all the boosts from prize units. Idk maybe both!

Dirk Durbin37
03-24-2013, 08:31 AM
My profile Def is 210k, someone with 120k attack just attacked me and won. Haha it's safe to assume we can throw out everything we thought we knew about stats. Just attack blind and you hope for the best.

Devin
03-24-2013, 09:12 AM
Lol, you guys do know what they did, right?

Boss to programmer: the players don't like seeing the random fluctuations we use.

Programmer to boss: simple fix, we'll just display the number before we apply the randomness algorithm. Then they won't see it.

It's the same as it was before, you just don't see the 'random element'