New quest Brustish codex

[Nacon10]

Just started ready set go

[Proprioc3ption]

Pop open the popcorn and crack the fingers...here we go again!

[Slickster]

1 st four units zzzzzzzzzz :(

[Q-Ball]

Say whaaaat?! Can I get some sleep first? Yeeesshhh

[Polaris79]

Heroic mode up too in this LTQ. Ended 08 march

[nicsonology]

It's crazy non stop again n again

[MeowMix]

This LTQ goes from step 1 to 26 in Normal Mode then 1 to 26 in Heroic Mode.

Normal Mode 1 to 26:
01 Anemone 36/19 (Beast)
02 Burly Basilisk 34/41 (Beast)
03 Centaur 60/35 (Infantry)
04 Devastated Bear 40/73 (Beast)
05 Efreeti 64/65 (Infantry)
06 Frozen Giant 67/73 (Infantry)
07 Gargoyle 74/91 (Beast)
08 Hellish Knight 90/88 (Infantry)
09 Irate Imp 75/118 (Infantry)
10 Jabberwocky 105/102 (Infantry)
11 King of Bones 145/74 (Infantry)
12 Laden Larva 80/165 (Infantry)
13 Mummy 140/135 (Infantry)
14 Gnoll 190/117 (Infantry)
15 Owl Bear 140/219 (Infantry)
16 Putrid Pazuzu 143/232 (Infantry)
17 Qyrm 185/213 (Infantry)
18 Rat 261/140 (Beast)
19 Swamp Hag 200/222 (Infantry)
20 Troll 315/150 (Infantry)
21 Undead Pirate 190/302 (Infantry)
22 Vines 205/336 (Beast)
23 Wretched Wyvern 372/263 (Beast)
24 Xanthippe 330/371 (Infantry)
25 Young Yeti 501/234 (Beast)
26 Beta Beast 900/400 (Infantry.. yes Infantry)

And then...

Heroic Mode 1 to 26:
01 Anemone (H) 179/96 (Beast)
02 Burly Basilisk (H) 120/255 (Beast)
03 Centaur (H) 197/278 (Infantry)
04 Devestated Bear (H) 200/365 (Beast)
05 Efreeti (H) 400/245 (Infantry)
06 Frozen Giant (H) 312/389 (Infantry)
07 Gargoyle (H) 370/455 (Beast)
08 Hellish Knight (H) 450/440 (Infantry)
09 Irate Imp (H) 370/590 (Infantry)
10 Jaberwocky (H) 525/510 (Infantry)
11 King of Bones (H) 725/370 (Infantry)
12 Laden Larva (H) 400/825 (Infantry)
13 Mummy (H) 697/675 (Infantry)
14 Gnoll (H) 950/585 (Infantry)
15 Owl Bear (H) 700/1095 (Infantry)
16 Putrid Pazuzu (H) 715/1160 (Infantry)
17 Qyrm (H) 987/1065 (Infantry)
18 Rat (H) 1305/700 (Beast)
19 Swamp Hag (H) 975/1110 (Infantry)
20 Troll (H) 1555/750 (Infantry)
21 Undead Pirate (H) 984/1510 (Infantry)
22 Vines (H) 1650/1092 (Beast)
23 Wretched Wyvern (H) 1718/1476 (Beast)
24 Xanthippe (H) 1655/1855 (Infantry)
25 Young Yeti (H) 2075/1635 (Beast)
26 Alpha Beast (H) 3755/2700 (Infantry)


Note that the splash screen says this ends on "08/03/13 16:00". I Guess we have until August 3rd to complete :)

* Thanks to sleazius for the Heroic data.

[King Gabriel388]

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[Whobr0tsnacks]

12. Laden Larva 80/165 infantry

[Mickeytah]

Jabberwocky? For reals? Does he do cool dance moves or something?

[Coog]

Oh man! This is getting comical. Since I live in Sweden every event starts when I all ready have hit the sack and I start six hours behind. This time the event starts 9 pm here in Sweden and I have allready used up all my energy. Good thinking Gree but unfortunatly I stumbled on my own feet here:rolleyes: Never mind, love me some more events! Picks up bow and goes hunting.

[Issaquah]

Got thru 18 with a refill and a lvl up half way thru the second bar. Seems pretty easy thus far.

[Nacon10]

All are one hit kills

[asher78]

Update:
15 Owl Bear 140/219 (Infantry)
16 Putrid Pazuzu 143/232 (Infantry)

[nic4msu]

Oh man! This is getting comical. Since I live in Sweden every event starts when I all ready have hit the sack and I start six hours behind. This time the event starts 9 pm here in Sweden and I have allready used up all my energy. Good thinking Gree but unfortunatly I stumbled on my own feet here:rolleyes: Never mind, love me some more events! Picks up bow and goes hunting.

It started at 3am here! This is the first time I've triggered a LTQ at the start. It usually takes 12 to 24 hrs after it begins to pop up in my goals.

[MSH]

14.Gnoll 190/117 infantry
15. Owlbear - 140/219 infantry (strange that - thought, it would be a beast)
16.Putrid Pazuzu 143/232 Infantry

[Proprioc3ption]

An event for all players! Free or spending...GREE seems to have listened to what people want. We the people are the winners here. Click away people! :)

[MSH]

17.Oyrm 185/213, infantry.
Sorry, Asher - did not see your post about numbers 15 and 16 - was too busy looking up for the items in my inventory :)

[groovdog]

Damn gonna get kicked to the next boss level with all this pve stuff coming back to back to back. Least xp starts low on this :)

[Angel 2]

Agree, fun for all. No doubt we will see some crying about the lack of high stat units, but I dont mind, it looks like I will be retiring more dragons for indestructible units. Click click click.

[a glory a]

wow.. theres some shamefull rewards up for grabs here in comparison to the LTQ just ended. lets hope heroic mode is considerably better (if i can even get there without gems)

[MSH]

19. Swamp Hag 200/222 Infantry

[a glory a]

19. Swamp Hag 200/222 Infantry

first page is already updated to 22 mate

[Bagoftricks]

Still one hitting thru lvl 12. Love my Bow.

[Nacon10]

At 16 it's increases in difficultly

[sleazius]

26. Beta Beast 900/400

Heroic Leg
1. Anemone (H) 179/96
2. Burly Basilisk (H) 120/255
3. Centaur (H) 197/278
4. Devestated Bear (H) 200/365
5. Efreeti (H) 400/245
6. Frozen Giant (H) 312/389
7. Gargoyle (H) 370/455
8. Hellish Knight (H) 450/440
9. Irate Imp (H) 370/590
10. Jaberwocky (H) 525/510
11. King of Bones (H) 725/370
12. Laden Larva (H) 400/825
13. Mummy (H) 697/675
14. Gnoll (H) 950/585

[asher78]

that's ok, be my guest, the more info we have the more we can plan ahead... :-)


17.Oyrm 185/213, infantry.
Sorry, Asher - did not see your post about numbers 15 and 16 - was too busy looking up for the items in my inventory :)

[tcapi]

Note that the splash screen says this ends on "08/03/13 16:00".

Some part of the world, this is read as 8th March.

[MeowMix]

Note that the splash screen says this ends on "08/03/13 16:00".

Some part of the world, this is read as 8th March.

Yes, that is true, but this would be the 1st time Gree/Funzio has switched from using a USA format of MM/DD/YYYY in a KA splash screen. Using a DD/MM/YYYY (like most of Europe does) would go against their previous history of Gree/Funzio announcements.

[SevenO9]

We all know it will end March 8th and we all know they simply messed up the date format. Big deal. Really.

[Intan jabrut]

FYI....
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[TempusDA]

Hello

I would like to thank Nacom 10 for starting this thread.
I used the information provided by Nacom 10, MeowMix and sleazius to create a Spreadsheet for this.

Please help complete it make sure to add your name as a contributer :)

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[Coolhandlukeboy]

I noticed in heroic mode that the units are the same names as the units from the non-heroic mode. How does that work? Are their two units with independent stats, or does heroic mode upgrade the stats of the non-heroic units? Hopefully My question makes sense.

And as this being "less" worth completing than the last LTQ, I'm just happy they keep giving me reasons to play. Having spent some gems, how boring would it be to complete an LTQ but have no reason to play the game afterward?

[Schar]

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[MeowMix]

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A couple corrections:

Step 26 Normal Mode Beta Beast is actually an Infantry Unit.... no kidding

In Heroic Mode step 26 the Alpha Beast should be Infantry (assuming its the same class as Beta Beast).

-MeowMix

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[ratiatierna]

I noticed in heroic mode that the units are the same names as the units from the non-heroic mode. How does that work? Are their two units with independent stats, or does heroic mode upgrade the stats of the non-heroic units? Hopefully My question makes sense.And as this being "less" worth completing than the last LTQ, I'm just happy they keep giving me reasons to play. Having spent some gems, how boring would it be to complete an LTQ but have no reason to play the game afterward?Units in heroic mode have the same name but with a (H) on te side as for heroic and with higher stats

[MeowMix]

I noticed in heroic mode that the units are the same names as the units from the non-heroic mode. How does that work? Are their two units with independent stats, or does heroic mode upgrade the stats of the non-heroic units? Hopefully My question makes sense.

And as this being "less" worth completing than the last LTQ, I'm just happy they keep giving me reasons to play. Having spent some gems, how boring would it be to complete an LTQ but have no reason to play the game afterward?

They show up as independent units with their own stats:
ie:

Step 9 Normal you get: Irate Imp 75/119 Infantry
Step 9 Heroic you get: Irate Imp (H) 370/590 Infantry

these are two separate units in Infantry one called "Irate Imp" and the other "Irate Imp (H)". The graphic of each look identical (no change in how they look).

-MeowMix

[sleazius]

15. Owl Bear (H) 700/1095
16. Putrid Pazuzu (H) 715/1160
17. Qyrm (H) 987/1065
18. Rat (H) 1305/700
19. Swamp Hag (H) 975/1110
20. Troll (H) 1555/750
21. Undead Pirate (H) 984/1510 - 2824 hp, 69 + 47 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
22. Vines (H) 1650/1092 - 3090 hp, 71 + 48 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
23. Wretched Wyvern (H) 1718/1476 - 3103 hp, 74 + 49 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
24. Xanthippe (H) 1655/1855 - 3652 hp, 76 + 51 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
25. Young Yeti (H) 2075/1635 - 4583 hp, 86 + 58 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
26. Alpha Beast 3755/2700 - 6806 hp, 121 + 63 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob

[sleazius]

There was no Beta Beast (H) as far as I can see.

[MeowMix]

We all know it will end March 8th and we all know they simply messed up the date format. Big deal. Really.

It seems likely that Gree/Funzio made a mistake, but it would be good to hear them say officially that it is a mistake.

-MeowMix

[MeowMix]

There was no Beta Beast (H) as far as I can see.

Ahhh, ok kool.

[MeowMix]

15. Owl Bear (H) 700/1095
16. Putrid Pazuzu (H) 715/1160
17. Qyrm (H) 987/1065
18. Rat (H) 1305/700
19. Swamp Hag (H) 975/1110
20. Troll (H) 1555/750
21. Undead Pirate (H) 984/1510 - 2824 hp, 69 + 47 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
22. Vines (H) 1650/1092 - 3090 hp, 71 + 48 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
23. Wretched Wyvern (H) 1718/1476 - 3103 hp, 74 + 49 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
24. Xanthippe (H) 1655/1855 - 3652 hp, 76 + 51 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
25. Young Yeti (H) 2075/1635 - 4583 hp, 86 + 58 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob
26. Alpha Beast 3755/2700 - 6806 hp, 121 + 63 energy per hit (x3 mobs) + last mob

Thank You!

[King Gabriel388]

It seems likely that Gree/Funzio made a mistake, but it would be good to hear them say officially that it is a mistake.

-MeowMix

In Australia, date format is day/month/year.

[Sir Marcus]

So why's this called the Brutish Codex - as if its some kind of bestiary - if less than one third of the monsters are actually beasts?!

Hey GREE - did you forget to flip the monster type tag on most of these?

[uashsar]

An event for all players! Free or spending...GREE seems to have listened to what people want. We the people are the winners here. Click away people! :)

Well, not all - you need to have the maps open, i.e. low level players cannot participate.

[flamingdragon]

doing reallygood 10/26 normal mode by 7:00 am

[VVolf]

One thing that took me a while to notice was that you can save a lot of time if you do the bottom quest first.

The following quests always bring you back to the map before, so if you want to save time, just start on the lower quest, finish it, then go to the higher quest and finish that. Then, the next quest will have you kill the same monster on the same map you are already on again.

[Turlis]

How much energy does it take per hit for the last monster on Normal mode?

[Turlis]

One thing that took me a while to notice was that you can save a lot of time if you do the bottom quest first.

The following quests always bring you back to the map before, so if you want to save time, just start on the lower quest, finish it, then go to the higher quest and finish that. Then, the next quest will have you kill the same monster on the same map you are already on again.

Can you say that again. I don't follow.

[VVolf]

Can you say that again. I don't follow.

Sorry, so each part of the quest (except the first) has 2 components, requiring you to kill 2 different types of units, lets just say monster A and monster B. Well, if quest X is to kill 3 monster A's and 1 monster B, then the following quest (quest Y) will require you to kill 3 monster C's and 1 monster A.

So, if in quest X, you kill monster B first, and then kill monster As, you don't need to change maps, because quest Y will start immediately, and you will have to kill another monster A.

Not a huge tip, but it saves time from having to change maps all the time.

[Turlis]

How much energy does it take per hit for the last monster on Normal mode?

So anyone remember how much every it takes to hit the last monster?

[DIrishB]

On part 14/26, so far pretty easy, able to one-hit everything. I expect that to change in the next step or two. Wonder if I have a shot at finishing this without gems, since this is obviously aimed at low level players.

[GreenGuru]

It seems their new method of solving the units left over from LTQ problem is by starting each new part of the quest with killing 1 unit of the previous part lol, such a ghetto rigged way of dealing with the problem. It's pretty funny

[Coolhandlukeboy]

On part 14/26, so far pretty easy, able to one-hit everything. I expect that to change in the next step or two. Wonder if I have a shot at finishing this without gems, since this is obviously aimed at low level players.

With just under five days... Shouldn't be a problem. I'm level 64 and 64 hero strength with Cupid's bow; I too hope it isn't bad near the end. The last LTQ wasn't even too hard, just the ice dragon, really. Had I started on time and not two days late, I would have completed heroic mode. Can't imagine this being harder than that.

[GreenGuru]

Nacon you should put all the info and splash screen into the original post since you decided to start this thread, it makes it easier for new readers to see what's going on or how far they are

[a glory a]

I've been massively slowed down since level 16, im on 18 at the moment. Taking me 3 hits per rat and the problem is they take 25 energy every time they hit me back!

should get through to the heroic parts though which will see me a few more units to keep

[InunoTaishou]

I'm on #8 in lanibod's crypt, none of the monsters show up on my screen
Only thing that's there are sarcophagi (Hope that's the right word lol)

Anyone know why this is?

[Acidist]

Nice event, really.But, when become we finally LTQ with machine Units?

[DIrishB]

With just under five days... Shouldn't be a problem. I'm level 64 and 64 hero strength with Cupid's bow; I too hope it isn't bad near the end. The last LTQ wasn't even too hard, just the ice dragon, really. Had I started on time and not two days late, I would have completed heroic mode. Can't imagine this being harder than that.

You got that far on the last quest without using gems at only 64 Hero Strength? I can see it with gems, but not without. I have almost 3 times your HS (174, though no Cupid's Bow, my weapon is 58 max), and without gems I got to finish the Ice portion and finished 9/10 on Fire and got the 10/10 Fire boss down halfway. I just don't see your HS getting through Heroic when starting 2 days late unless you used a fair amount of gems. Impressive either way, though! You should definitely do well in this quest.

[l3lade2]

Just starting 22/26 on normal, no gems as of yet, good chance of completing heroic without them...which would be nice as I won't be using any straight after the last LTQ ;)

[Schar]

I like how this quest makes you clean up mobs as you go. Nothing left around to litter maps and crash your device...

[VileDoom]

Glad my blacksmith is level 10 with all these infantry. ;)

[l3lade2]

Need to get to lvl10 Kennel after the last one! :)

[Coolhandlukeboy]

You got that far on the last quest without using gems at only 64 Hero Strength? I can see it with gems, but not without. I have almost 3 times your HS (174, though no Cupid's Bow, my weapon is 58 max), and without gems I got to finish the Ice portion and finished 9/10 on Fire and got the 10/10 Fire boss down halfway. I just don't see your HS getting through Heroic when starting 2 days late unless you used a fair amount of gems. Impressive either way, though! You should definitely do well in this quest.

I stayed up way too late making sure to hit every refill (when I saw those rewards!) and use my 17 stamina every hour to get more xp. Have a newborn at home anyhow, so I was up quite a bit and have access to the game during the day. But I started at level 54 so I got quite a few level ups as a free refill. I did tapjoy for about forty worth if I'm not mistaken, and I did have about 80 from daily gem hoarding (but honestly I spent those only to get the last couple fire and ice quests in heroic mode last night) Actually, I leveled up to 64 today, so quite a few levels nonetheless in the past week. My average hit is about 165-225. Dunno if that makes more sense. The ice dragon took me a whole day, so there was no hope of getting that last night without a ton of gems. My iPads alarm clock for the win.

[Zesder]

For all those people saying that we are cleaning up the mobs before leaving, check again. They are respawning after you kill them.

[Zenobia]

Glad my blacksmith is level 10 with all these infantry. ;)
I actually just hit the "upgrade" button for lvl 10 this morning. :)

[InunoTaishou]

So can someone tell me why no monsters, and my avatar, isn't appearing on lanibob?

I can't even get past #8 if I can't kill the monsters at lanibob and I can't make a thread here, I don't have the access

[a glory a]

Nice event, really.But, when become we finally LTQ with machine Units?

agreed... my machine unit page is almost empty!

not wasting time and money on the machine boost building anytime soon

[a glory a]

I actually just hit the "upgrade" button for lvl 10 this morning. :)

mine finished an upgrade a bit ago... an extra 400 attack... hardly worth doing!

[sleazius]

Just starting 22/26 on normal, no gems as of yet, good chance of completing heroic without them...which would be nice as I won't be using any straight after the last LTQ ;)

I'd be surprised if you can finish it without gems. The heroic portion is much harder, and after level 18 or so every mob was taking a full energy refill to take down. The level 26 mobs have 6806 hit points, and take off 184 energy per hit. You have to kill three of those, plus one mob from the previous round.

[Munseyspin]

@inuntaisho (sorry if poor spelling). I had to re-install ka to get lanibod's to work and you need 10 posts to make a new thread, or you used too.

[DIrishB]

I stayed up way too late making sure to hit every refill (when I saw those rewards!) and use my 17 stamina every hour to get more xp. Have a newborn at home anyhow, so I was up quite a bit and have access to the game during the day. But I started at level 54 so I got quite a few level ups as a free refill. I did tapjoy for about forty worth if I'm not mistaken, and I did have about 80 from daily gem hoarding (but honestly I spent those only to get the last couple fire and ice quests in heroic mode last night) Actually, I leveled up to 64 today, so quite a few levels nonetheless in the past week. My average hit is about 165-225. Dunno if that makes more sense. The ice dragon took me a whole day, so there was no hope of getting that last night without a ton of gems. My iPads alarm clock for the win.

Ah I see. How you doing on this quest so far?

I'm pissed I didn't get that Cupid's Bow. I was stuck on 9 for over 2 days, opening literally 20 per day, as well as an extra day into overtime. Close to 60 gold opens after 9, no luck. Was livid. Ah well, guess I have to wait for the next uber weapon.

[flamingdragon]

Doing good still 17/26 normal I might not have to use any of my gems

[Coolhandlukeboy]

Ah I see. How you doing on this quest so far?

I'm pissed I didn't get that Cupid's Bow. I was stuck on 9 for over 2 days, opening literally 20 per day, as well as an extra day into overtime. Close to 60 gold opens after 9, no luck. Was livid. Ah well, guess I have to wait for the next uber weapon.

I got my first nine tokens/medals by the second day, then went twenty-five chests without a single drop. I understand that frustration.

I am one hit away from finishing twenty-two. Not sure how heavy hitting the last boss is, but I am hoping to be heroic by tomorrow afternoon. Should give me time to finish, I hope.

Is the heroic harder than the first time through? More energy? More hit points.

[Loroessan]

Quite a bit harder overall especially once you hit about 12/26(H)

[Winstrol]

Quite a bit harder overall especially once you hit about 12/26(H)
Wait till you hit 26/26 ;) each hit take 121+63 energy and zombies are really though .

[echus14]

They show up as independent units with their own stats:
ie:

Step 9 Normal you get: Irate Imp 75/119 Infantry
Step 9 Heroic you get: Irate Imp (H) 370/590 Infantry

these are two separate units in Infantry one called "Irate Imp" and the other "Irate Imp (H)". The graphic of each look identical (no change in how they look).

-MeowMix


Essentially, a heroically irate imp! LOL <sorry all, couldn't resist>

[Perfuzzie]

Wait till you hit 26/26 ;) each hit take 121+63 energy and zombies are really though .


the old winny is back ... no S****Y comments , welcome back :D

[echus14]

I'm pissed I didn't get that Cupid's Bow. I was stuck on 9 for over 2 days, opening literally 20 per day, as well as an extra day into overtime.

Same here. Was trying for 5.5 days with OT trying to get the 10th arrow. Never made it. Guess just have to move on, but until I can get something better than a Cupid's Bow, it still rackles. Still also waiting for some response from Support on the tickets I sent to them.

[[MoC] Ian McGrath]

I'd like to know what the reasoning behind this LTE is compared the previous ones. I think we were all expecting either a break or something different like a PVP event.

[Perfuzzie]

Ian McGrath;626077']I'd like to know what the reasoning behind this LTE is compared the previous ones. I think we were all expecting either a break or something different like a PVP event.

just enjoy it and increase your stats with it ... you`re gonna need those units

[echus14]

Ian McGrath;626077']I'd like to know what the reasoning behind this LTE is compared the previous ones. I think we were all expecting either a break or something different like a PVP event.

Before we look for a reason for this second similar style LTQ, I think we should find the answer to the question of why we are staying up into the wee hours of the morning tapping away at our iPhone/iPads. LOL. :)

[RotoMan]

Same here. Was trying for 5.5 days with OT trying to get the 10th arrow. Never made it. Guess just have to move on, but until I can get something better than a Cupid's Bow, it still rackles. Still also waiting for some response from Support on the tickets I sent to them.

I had a similar situation. I was stuck on 8 for over three days. I finally got the ninth on the last day and spent another day or so in OT opening with gems (200 of my hard earned Tapjoy gems) and got nothing. I sent a ticket and the response was "Thank you for contacting us, and I am sorry to hear about the bad luck. I am passing your feedback on the event directly to the developers."

[Perfuzzie]

I had a similar situation. I was stuck on 8 for over three days. I finally got the ninth on the last day and spent another day or so in OT opening with gems (200 of my hard earned Tapjoy gems) and got nothing. I sent a ticket and the response was "Thank you for contacting us, and I am sorry to hear about the bad luck. I am passing your feedback on the event directly to the developers."


that cupids bow makes me depressed .. i fell like attacking anyone that has it lol (im such an A*****)

[Polaris79]

I had a similar situation. I was stuck on 8 for over three days. I finally got the ninth on the last day and spent another day or so in OT opening with gems (200 of my hard earned Tapjoy gems) and got nothing. I sent a ticket and the response was "Thank you for contacting us, and I am sorry to hear about the bad luck. I am passing your feedback on the event directly to the developers."

I was stuck at 9/10 for more than 2 days, i used all my gems earn ed through video offers, and got only few gold and honor, and got 2 numb box with gem op too, still waiting for answer to my ticket...

[Perfuzzie]

I was stuck at 9/10 for more than 2 days, i used all my gems earn ed through video offers, and got only few gold and honor, and got 2 numb box with gem op too, still waiting for answer to my ticket...


i was stuck for 4 days on 9/10 , 500 gems.. still nothing ... keep waiting ... they`re gonna tell u that is all based on luck .

[nic4msu]

Ian McGrath;626077']I'd like to know what the reasoning behind this LTE is compared the previous ones. I think we were all expecting either a break or something different like a PVP event.

I'm guessing to allow the lower level players to have a LTQ, too. They weren't allowed to participate in the one that just ended.

[The Big Weezy]

i was stuck for 4 days on 9/10 , 500 gems.. still nothing ... keep waiting ... they`re gonna tell u that is all based on luck .
Man, I thought my three days stuck at 8/10 was excruciating. Wow.

I just winced reading that, Perfuzzie.

[MeowMix]

Before we look for a reason for this second similar style LTQ, I think we should find the answer to the question of why we are staying up into the wee hours of the morning tapping away at our iPhone/iPads. LOL. :)

Damn you Real Life! You get in the way of everything!
(Reformed WoW addict now turned to KA to lessen the withdrawal symptoms)

-MeowMix

[[MoC] Ian McGrath]

I'm guessing to allow the lower level players to have a LTQ, too. They weren't allowed to participate in the one that just ended.

I think you're probably right there.

[Namine33]

/sigh. And I just emptied my energy.... Didn't think they would start one the next day. :(

[Zesder]

To my knowledge the last quest ended at 7pm (my time) and this quest started 7.02pm(my time)
So we had a 2 minute breather.

[Loroessan]

Lmao same boat meow, played for 3yrs in a top 100 guild, takes awhile for that to wear off!

[MaverickMunkey]

To my knowledge the last quest ended at 7pm (my time) and this quest started 7.02pm(my time)
So we had a 2 minute breather.

And I sincerely hope that you didn't do something useless with that 2 minute break!

[Zenobia]

that cupids bow makes me depressed .. i fell like attacking anyone that has it lol (im such an A*****)
I said that exact thing in my guild forum earlier today lol.

[Timbathia]

that cupids bow makes me depressed .. i fell like attacking anyone that has it lol (im such an A*****)

At least the shiver bow from the bards quest is okay consolation. Not quite the cupids bow, but hot-knifing through buttery bad guys all the same. Almost makes me forget about the 45 boxes that didnt have the tenth arrow in them.

[Polaris79]

Is it just me or many of this LTQ units have gross name? How can i normal "rat" have such stats? ;)

[Proprioc3ption]

They were out of creative ideas lol

[a glory a]

They were out of creative ideas lol

Clearly, the same avatar gets shared by about 10 different units!

just change the skin colour or something!

[deuce]

just change the skin colour or something!
Probably not enough of a monetary return on the time spent to do so. You will like the color they chose!

[a glory a]

how's everyone doing on this LTQ? - aimed mostly at free players.

I'm at 25/26.. finally started to get worthwhile units now

[Skyraiders]

I finished the normal mode and about three or four events into the heroic mode. It looks if you just pay due diligence you can just about finish both modes without resorting to gem refills. only time will tell but the monsters do get harder in heroic mode. It would also depend on your weapon and hero strength. my HS is around 164 and (i hate to say it cuz so many didnt get it) but i use the cupids bow. Still this one is not impossible to complete no matter what kind of player you are.

[Polaris79]

I'm on 24/26 normal mode. Free player with no cupid bow ;)

[groovdog]

i was stuck for 4 days on 9/10 , 500 gems.. still nothing ... keep waiting ... they`re gonna tell u that is all based on luck .
I was stuck on 9/10 for 4 days as well, over 700 gems. Got it during a break while touring a hospice for work. Kind of morbid that. Good thing I did, these things suck for us lower levels with so little energy and HS.

[Jixx]

almost done with 24/26

probably going to get a few into heroic for free :P

[The Big Weezy]

Done 22/26 without Cupid's Bow or gems. Resisting urge to throttle all cupid bow-holding members based on their incredible "luck." ;p

[Skyraiders]

Done 22/26 without Cupid's Bow or gems. Resisting urge to throttle all cupid bow-holding members based on their incredible "luck." ;p

LOL sorry bro. just for the record it didnt come easy.

[boardgames rule]

Im on number 23 with no gems or cupid bow!!!

[Eddie_m63]

One more hit and finish normal mode, free as well...woke up at 3 am and empty my energy bar lol

[l3lade2]

Just finished 2/26 on Heroic, no gems and won't be using any. Cupids Bow (sorry:)) with HS 106.

The jump from Normal > Heroic is huge right away this time...on Normal I was one hitting each monster once up until about level 12-14 if memory serves me correctly...Level 1 Heroic and they were taking (just!) 2 hits, my hits tend to be 180-220, but on Heroic level 2 the basiliscs take more than 220, about 231 or something I think.

[Acidist]

Finished today with heroic modus.

[Perfuzzie]

Finished today with heroic modus.

how many gems u ended up using ?

[flamingdragon]

you guys are lucky i am on 19/26 normal

[Timbathia]

Is it just me or many of this LTQ units have gross name? How can i normal "rat" have such stats? ;)

Yeah, it bothers me too. A rat has two and half times the attack stats of my dragons, and a heroic rat is over ten times. Sure the ingame content doesnt have to make enough sense to hold up in a royal commission, but that is just plain stupid.

[a glory a]

I just got onto 26/26 normal, half way through the yeti and close to a level (hopefully that full bar of energy will kill at least 1 zombie...)

damn these enemies with their massive fists of retaliation!

I have 84 HS and weapon is temple spear (54 attack)

[BadManBlue]

Round 2 has me stumped, it want me to kill an Anemone in the Dark Forrest, I have spent my energy there at least twice and no Anemone, anyone else have the same result?

Strange place for an Anemone.

[a glory a]

Round 2 has me stumped, it want me to kill an Anemone in the Dark Forrest, I have spent my energy there at least twice and no Anemone, anyone else have the same result?

Strange place for an Anemone.

open the quest log, click the quest and click 'visit' next to the task. this should take you directly next to the monster to kill. you do not have to kill other monsters to make it appear.

if it doesnt show, exit and re-open the app

if still no luck, uninstall and re-install the app

if your still having no luck send a contact form into GREE

[sleazius]

To those thinking you can finish the heroic part without gems you can't.

Lvl 26:

6806 hp / 250 per hit = 27.224 hits, 184 energy per hit = 5009 energy * 3 = 15027 energy
+ 4583 hp / 250 per hit = 18.332 hits, 144 energy per hit = 2640 energy
17667 energy / 3 energy per min = 5889 mins, or 98.15 hours, or 4.09 days.

This LTQ is designed to throw free players a bone by giving them some heroic units, but you won't get the top prize unfortunately without spending gems.

*edit - I suggested 250 per hit, for the record I hit the last units at an average of 180 per hit so this is an optimistic estimate.

[a glory a]

To those thinking you can finish the heroic part without gems you can't.

Lvl 26:

6806 hp / 250 per hit = 27.224 hits, 184 energy per hit = 5009 energy * 3 = 15027 energy
+ 4583 hp / 250 per hit = 18.332 hits, 144 energy per hit = 2640 energy
17667 energy / 3 energy per min = 5889 mins, or 98.15 hours, or 4.09 days.

This LTQ is designed to throw free players a bone by giving them some heroic units, but you won't get the top prize unfortunately without spending gems.

nice of someone to put a realistic blow on everyones dreams!

and thats not even taking into account the units hitting back!

Hopefully i may get to around part 10 heroic though

[sleazius]

nice of someone to put a realistic blow on everyones dreams!

and thats not even taking into account the units hitting back!

Hopefully i may get to around part 10 heroic though

Nah, thats with the units hitting back.

[Acidist]

how many gems u ended up using ?
I think about 1200 gems

[flamingdragon]

got back on track doing good again i haven't used gems yet though

[MaverickMunkey]

nice of someone to put a realistic blow on everyones dreams!

and thats not even taking into account the units hitting back!

Hopefully i may get to around part 10 heroic though

It all depends upon your HS and weapons - I am playing this one free and am already at part 10 with three days left to go.

[Spydrax]

Similar to most I guess: I'm on 23/26 and play free. Haven't used a gem but did have the benefit of two lvl ups for new bars of energy. I've got 89 to hero strength and am using the all-powerful, Temple Spear! All you that one the Bow were fooled into thinking it was THE weapon, but alas, no! It's truly this weapon,the spear! WOW! I'm so thrilled to have the Temple spear! WOW! :rolleyes:

Can you taste the sarcasm?

That bow! I sat on 9 for over 2 days and couldn't get to 10! I'm still losing sleep! I've scheduled an appt with my shrink!

[boardgames rule]

What was the cupid bow again? stats and stuff

[JBearden13]

What was the point in making this thread? The topic is not even really worth reading.

[Coolhandlukeboy]

Taking two or three hits now on heroic mode. Have got to seven of heroic without any gems. Not getting much harder at the moment. Third hit is always like 15 damage... Sometimes 1 damage...

Units getting far better. Up to 74 hero damage, Cupid's bow and hitting more or less at the 195 mark. Seem to be lucky tonight. Ready to turn a level soon and let it fill back up over night.

Like it was said, doesn't look possible without gems. Last event was far more worthy of gem spending, IMHO. Not sure if I will bite this time.

[Coolhandlukeboy]

What was the point in making this thread? The topic is not even really worth reading.

And thirteen pages and 120+ posts make you think this topic is not worth reading to some?

I for one like to know what units are available before I potentially waste my time trying to acquire them. Thanks go to the op and all people who are giving us the low down out of the kindness of their hearts. I know I appreciate it and find the post quite worthwhile.

[boardgames rule]

What are the stats of the cupid bow and is it a hero weapnon?

[Seryna]

What are the stats of the cupid bow and is it a hero weapnon?

It's 85 attack and 130 defense. Yes it's a hero weapon.

I think all these new pve LTQs are designed so that LLPs get some nice units, hourly players with decent stats can finish normal mode and if you want to finish heroic mode for the top unit then you must spend some gems.

[Namine33]

Well, I got to 19/20 before I went offline. Didnt feel like emptying my gems for this one. I am sure I will see a new one to empty my gems with in my next port. = )

[Mickeytah]

I'm really liking this quest. Fortunately, I was up when it started with 3/4 of an energy to get a good jump on it. I have just finished 11/26 heroic mode and I might be able to go the distance on this event.

[F3RGU50N]

Woohoo. This is the best I've ever done on one of these events. Already at 24/26, having 1/1 and 1/3 done in it. I'm glad I started sinking all of my skill points into HS for the past about 10 lvls. It's really helped.


Jabberwocky? For reals? Does he do cool dance moves or something?
No, I think the developers just played too much Skyrim. lol


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Same here. Was trying for 5.5 days with OT trying to get the 10th arrow. Never made it. Guess just have to move on, but until I can get something better than a Cupid's Bow, it still rackles. Still also waiting for some response from Support on the tickets I sent to them.
Glad to know I wasn't the only one in a similar boat. Though from what I've seen, I didn't have it as bad as some. I didn't spend nearly as much gems as some others that didn't get it. So when are those of us without the bow rising up to thrash those who did get it? lol


At least the shiver bow from the bards quest is okay consolation. Not quite the cupids bow, but hot-knifing through buttery bad guys all the same. Almost makes me forget about the 45 boxes that didnt have the tenth arrow in them.
Shiver bow would have been a decent consolation prize, if I would have made it that far. Damn my bad luck. lol

[Intan jabrut]

Wow ,,, I got Owl Bear (H) now...
thanks a lot GREE for your LTQ...
if I can got a lot units like this , I needn't any dragons..LOL

[Mr T Perfect]

I am currently level 125 on 24 of 26 normal mode without using any gems and no level upgrades (yet-im so close it hurts) using 145 hero strenght wealding the Tyfring (58/66) hero weapon.

I never get close to the units on the box events so i am very happy with to LTQ's close together.

Thank you Gree

damn that hurt saying that.

[a glory a]

Judging by previous comments i'm doing quite well. 2/26 (H) with 86 HS :)

[Jixx]

Judging by previous comments i'm doing quite well. 2/26 (H) with 86 HS :)

going faster than i am friend, just rounding up 26/26 normal with 104 HS :)

[Silent follower]

Just finished the normal quest without gems, lvl 84 and HS87. But Frostbiter and Dragonscale Plate from the Bards LTQ has helped a lot :) The Heroic mode is tougher, I needed two hits already for the Anemones. Tonight I'll be sitting tight and hitting immediately when I have enough of energy...

[Deskjockey]

Just started 19/26 (H), still free. Will see how far I can go. Luckily (in one respect, but not in many, many others) for me, I've been home with a stomach bug yesterday and today courtesy of my toddler.

[Q-Ball]

Just started 19/26 (H), still free. Will see how far I can go. Luckily (in one respect, but not in many, many others) for me, I've been home with a stomach bug yesterday and today courtesy of my toddler.

Well done DeskJockey... not on contracting the stomach bug. trailing you on 17/26 (H). it feels like using a butter knife to hack a rubber tire everytime my guy hits the monsters. They are so strong!

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Slugging away now on Heroic Mode 11/26. There's hope (and gems) that could get me through, though I'm going to push on the hope more than the gems unless I really have to. Want to save some gems for Boss event coming around the corner.

[garen argon]

was surprised how much faster this has progressed compared to the bard. 11/26 H so far! No gem usage for me. I get what I get.

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[larrydavid]

just about to finish 19/26 heroic mode. 133HS and Frostbite... what level do you guys think I can get to free?

[boardgames rule]

Just finshed normal!!! I am not going to try hero so i will just relax

[Skyraiders]

Just finshed normal!!! I am not going to try hero so i will just relax

Why? I would do as many as you can for free and then relax. the unit you will earn in the heroic mode are better and worth the bother. I am currently on 11/26 heroic and all for free got some great units so far. Dont quit now keep slashing away at those monsters.

[garen argon]

Just finshed normal!!! I am not going to try hero so i will just relax

keep going! the first coupole are easy and the units get significantly better:cool:

[boardgames rule]

I dont want to continue as i can beat 30 bosses for next boss.

[Spydrax]

I'm on 26/26! Really excited! First time I'm going to complete a LTQ!! Well, not counting the heroic half of course!

Since this thread has basically turned into an update of the quest and we've brought up the point about adding to our HS which we see helps with the monsters, who has any information on what adding to the army A/D does? I can't seem to see a difference. I've noted all my numbers and added and nothing changed. Certainly, something happens, but is it all 'in game'?

[Angel 2]

I'm on 26/26! Really excited! First time I'm going to complete a LTQ!! Well, not counting the heroic half of course!

Since this thread has basically turned into an update of the quest and we've brought up the point about adding to our HS which we see helps with the monsters, who has any information on what adding to the army A/D does? I can't seem to see a difference. I've noted all my numbers and added and nothing changed. Certainly, something happens, but is it all 'in game'?
Only your most powerful mobs affect your A/D. So let's assume you can take 100 units into battle, and the 100th unit has stats of 50/50. If you buy/win a unit with less that 50/50, then it will not change your A/D score. the additional unit needs stats greater than 50/50 to replace the weakest one taken into battle. If you increased your ally count, likely the weakest unit would have lower stats and then your new unit would be having an impact. Hope that helps.

[Scifiaddict]

I thought I was only one frustrated with the difficulty of all the drops in these LTE's lately. I was stuck at 8/10 for 2 days and gave up after 250 gems and no arrow. I'm a HS 141 with the temple spear and still waiting forever it seems to refill at 24/26 on normal mode. I hope to get through the normal mode by tomorrow night at rate their hits are draining my energy. I refuse to spend any more money on my Iphone account since I've yet to receive explaination as to why my 3GS can't earn any free gems but my wifes Ipad seems to earn 5-10 a day on the latest update for both devices.

[Mickeytah]

if I can got a lot units like this , I needn't any dragons..LOL

The downside to you getting these units is that everybody can get these units. At least with dragons only a select few have them.


I thought I was only one frustrated with the difficulty of all the drops in these LTE's lately. I was stuck at 8/10 for 2 days and gave up after 250 gems and no arrow. I'm a HS 141 with the temple spear and still waiting forever it seems to refill at 24/26 on normal mode. I hope to get through the normal mode by tomorrow night at rate their hits are draining my energy. I refuse to spend any more money on my Iphone account since I've yet to receive explaination as to why my 3GS can't earn any free gems but my wifes Ipad seems to earn 5-10 a day on the latest update for both devices.

You can earn gems by signing up at Tapjoy.com and connecting it to your KA account.

[Spydrax]

[/QUOTE]You can earn gems by signing up at Tapjoy.com and connecting it to your KA account.[/QUOTE]

Okay... Really need you to expand on this one? I've heard something about this before but how do you connect to KA account?

Also, Angel, I appreciate the help but unfortunately, I must have been unclear in my question. I get the one on one off theory, highest units used. I'm referring to the points we put towards the army attack and defense, in the skills area, liken to hero strength, etc... When one levels up our clears a map to lvl 5, if you put a point to the army attack, what happens?

[Scifiaddict]

The downside to you getting these units is that everybody can get these units. At least with dragons only a select few have them.



You can earn gems by signing up at Tapjoy.com and connecting it to your KA account.

I was directing this more specifically to the new Vulu watch a video and earn a gem that can be accessed on the daily scratcher ticket or the add funds window. It doesn't seem to work on a 3gs but will on an Ipad. I don't want to have to transfer devices just to be able to earn the free gems.

[Scifiaddict]

You can earn gems by signing up at Tapjoy.com and connecting it to your KA account.[/QUOTE]

Okay... Really need you to expand on this one? I've heard something about this before but how do you connect to KA account?

Also, Angel, I appreciate the help but unfortunately, I must have been unclear in my question. I get the one on one off theory, highest units used. I'm referring to the points we put towards the army attack and defense, in the skills area, liken to hero strength, etc... When one levels up our clears a map to lvl 5, if you put a point to the army attack, what happens?[/QUOTE]

As far as the Tapjoy.com portion of your question on an IOS device if install the TapJoy App all the apps that are in partnership with Tapjoy that are installed on the device will show up with option to complete offers to earn free gems. Some are free but most you end up spending money on offer to get the free gems or expose your email for "free quotes" and get spammed with tons of other offers once your email address is sold couple of times. It is not a bad way to earn free gems but I find it useless unless you really are interested in the products the offers are selling.


In regards to the clearing out the map portion to a level 5. Each time clear a map get a different reward. A level 5 you get an indestructible unit regardless of how many points you attribute to army attack or army defense when you level up. The way the community has answered the points distribution of the level up bonuses the general idea is as follows:

Energy increases automatically so is not affected by how distribute your points.
Army attack is a hidden bonus not viewable by others when you attack other players
Army defense is a hidden bonus not viewable by others when fending off other players that "invade" then look at profile and see if they can successfully win based on what is viewable. Funzio states that these 2 options add mystery to the PVP attacks.

Stamina is just that ... how many times you can either attack or invade another player.

Hero Strength is damage against single opponent monsters. The generally accepted idea is that if trying to level up or do well in these LTE the higher the HS (Hero Strength) the better off you are since it will take less energy to kill the "enemy" so can get futher each time before have to wait on your energy to refill.

I hope that clears up what you were asking.

[Shinazueli]

You can earn gems by signing up at Tapjoy.com and connecting it to your KA account.

Okay... Really need you to expand on this one? I've heard something about this before but how do you connect to KA account?

Also, Angel, I appreciate the help but unfortunately, I must have been unclear in my question. I get the one on one off theory, highest units used. I'm referring to the points we put towards the army attack and defense, in the skills area, liken to hero strength, etc... When one levels up our clears a map to lvl 5, if you put a point to the army attack,

.....

I hope that clears up what you were asking.

Just to flesh out what he said about attack and defense skill points, the skinny is that nobody here knows exactly how they work. Only Gree knows, and they aren't telling. But we got it from a source inside that it kind of works like this:

First your raw attack score gets calculated. I'm assuming you know how this works, it's relatively simple and elsewhere on these forums. Lets assume you have 100k raw attack.

Same for opponents raw defense score. Lets assume they have 100k raw defense.

Second, a random percentage multiplier. We are assuming from our source that this multiplier can range from -50% to +50%. So your attack score gets randomly multiplied by (pick a number from thin air) -25%. The defenders score gets a different(!!!) random multiplier. Lets say he gets +5%. Your attack score is now 75k, his defense is 105k.

Now, those juicy skill points. Our source straight up said they were percentage based. So lets just say each skill point gives you a 1% boost. You've invested 100 skill points into attack. This brings your effective score up to 150k attack.

The defender has chosen, after reading these forums; that defense skill points are useless, and has only allocated 25 points into defense. His score is now ~127k.

150k>127k. You win his bd10 money, he cries.

Moral of the story : no skill points are ever "wasted". Learn how things work, preferably from the source.

I'm not saying HS points are bad either; don't flame me. But all of the points have their, well, good points. No pun intended.

Edit: this is not an attack on the previous poster, just a clarification.

[Silent follower]

Thanks for the clarification about attack/defense points. This makes sense, as sometimes you loose while you think it should an easy win.

[The Big Weezy]

Now, those juicy skill points. Our source straight up said they were percentage based.

Moral of the story : no skill points are ever "wasted". Learn how things work, preferably from the source.

I'm not saying HS points are bad either; don't flame me.

My my, this is some juicy information to be had.

If I'm correct, you're saying that Army A/D skill points are actually percentage boosts? Is this only when the two players are otherwise "tied" for stats, or does it factor in always as a variable? If it's confined to these rare stat-stalemates, ok then. But if it factors in constantly, why wouldn't they just add it to raw attack like other similar bonuses/boosts?

[l3lade2]

But a clarification based on what/(more importantly) from who??

Why is the actual use/value of SP's such a secret still?? If they genuinely all have "good" uses then why not publicise the actual merits of each and let each player decide what they favour...

[GreenGuru]

I thought I was only one frustrated with the difficulty of all the drops in these LTE's lately. I was stuck at 8/10 for 2 days and gave up after 250 gems and no arrow. I'm a HS 141 with the temple spear and still waiting forever it seems to refill at 24/26 on normal mode. I hope to get through the normal mode by tomorrow night at rate their hits are draining my energy. I refuse to spend any more money on my Iphone account since I've yet to receive explaination as to why my 3GS can't earn any free gems but my wifes Ipad seems to earn 5-10 a day on the latest update for both devices.

Honestly during the cupid's arrow box event I felt like I had better chances getting arrows when using gold over gems. I got practically nothing from gem use but probably 8 out of my 9 arrows from gold use (if not 9 out of 9, I can't remember now)

[Spydrax]

Just to flesh out what he said about attack and defense skill points, the skinny is that nobody here knows exactly how they work. Only Gree knows, and they aren't telling. But we got it from a source inside that it kind of works like this:

First your raw attack score gets calculated. I'm assuming you know how this works, it's relatively simple and elsewhere on these forums. Lets assume you have 100k raw attack.

Same for opponents raw defense score. Lets assume they have 100k raw defense.

Second, a random percentage multiplier. We are assuming from our source that this multiplier can range from -50% to +50%. So your attack score gets randomly multiplied by (pick a number from thin air) -25%. The defenders score gets a different(!!!) random multiplier. Lets say he gets +5%. Your attack score is now 75k, his defense is 105k.

Now, those juicy skill points. Our source straight up said they were percentage based. So lets just say each skill point gives you a 1% boost. You've invested 100 skill points into attack. This brings your effective score up to 150k attack.

The defender has chosen, after reading these forums; that defense skill points are useless, and has only allocated 25 points into defense. His score is now ~127k.

150k>127k. You win his bd10 money, he cries.

Moral of the story : no skill points are ever "wasted". Learn how things work, preferably from the source.

I'm not saying HS points are bad either; don't flame me. But all of the points have their, well, good points. No pun intended.

Edit: this is not an attack on the previous poster, just a clarification.

Thank you for that explanation Shinazueli! I just couldn't find anyone who could give me this type of information so I had to ask.

I agree that the skill points should be known. We should be able to develop our kingdoms properties to what we have interest in. Such as, for those how are Tamers of the Dragons, the offensive attributes are great, but the defensive falls short by about 40% or so, so it wouldn't be likely that someone who is raising these beasts (I've heard they're mischievous!) would want to direct more points towards the defensive side to help balance the attack out, no?

Thanks again!

BTW: When I read this part, I laughed out loud!!! "150k>127k. You win his bd10 money, he cries." It caught me off guard. People stare at anything these days! Funny!

[DIrishB]

This is the first LTQ I've ever been able to finish the Normal mode, very happy with that. Currently on part 9 of Heroic. Thinking I can make it between parts 14-16 before running out of time. Fantastic quest.

[Shinazueli]

Thank you for that explanation Shinazueli! I just couldn't find anyone who could give me this type of information so I had to ask.

I agree that the skill points should be known. We should be able to develop our kingdoms properties to what we have interest in. Such as, for those how are Tamers of the Dragons, the offensive attributes are great, but the defensive falls short by about 40% or so, so it wouldn't be likely that someone who is raising these beasts (I've heard they're mischievous!) would want to direct more points towards the defensive side to help balance the attack out, no?

Thanks again!

BTW: When I read this part, I laughed out loud!!! "150k>127k. You win his bd10 money, he cries." It caught me off guard. People stare at anything these days! Funny!

Your premise is incomplete. You want to stack more heavily towards defense in any case, regardless of how-to-tame-your-dragon status. This is because you always have control over whom you attack, so you can choose to only fight battles that you already have a high likelihood of winning. The same cannot be said on defense. Hence, most players will want to stack more defense than offense. The only exception would be gem players, because nobody can attack them anyway.

Also, just in the off chance that someone from Gree actually reads this: sharing the formula for how attack and defense skill points work won't "remove the mystery" from pvp. We would just like to know so we can do our maths. We still won't know how many points our victi...er, opponents have allocated, so the mystery will remain. We would just be happier. And it's free! I hear companies like solutions that make their customers happy and are free, but what do I know...

[Intan jabrut]

@DIrishB,
Can you teach me how to make footnote like yours please ?
coz I wanna write My Best KA Event Units as well
thank you in advance...

[GreenGuru]

@DIrishB,
Can you teach me how to make footnote like yours please ?
coz I wanna write My Best KA Event Units as well
thank you in advance...

It's called a signature: 1. scroll up, 2. click Forum Actions drop down menu, 3. click Edit Profile, 4. click edit Signature, 5. create your signature with what ever you want in it.

Now this will always show up under all of your posts until you change or it remove it. :D

[Intan jabrut]

It's called a signature: 1. scroll up, 2. click Forum Actions drop down menu, 3. click Edit Profile, 4. click edit Signature, 5. create your signature with what ever you want in it.

Now this will always show up under all of your posts until you change or it remove it. :D

Thank you very much for your information....

[collage]

too tough for me. can only get to 9th quest

[Nxy]

The beta beast is only in normal once you beat heroic you get the alpha beast in place of it. With stats like that on the alpha beast I prefer him over the beta beast (H) lol

[nicsonology]

How far everyone is reached?

[Eddie_m63]

On 24th H, 16 gems left lol

[Klassenr@hotmail.com]

Finished it yesterday. Obviously using many many gems. Overall stat boost was worth it for me.

[Elisar]

I beat the 26 quests of the codex after spending gems for the 1st time only to find there is a second level I would have to go through. **** Funzio - bunch of greedy ba$tards that they are. This is the last time I spend any money on their game. They could have had a recurring spender. But that is definitely not happening now.

[Jixx]

you spent gems for the first one? :O

but its so easy? D:

[[MoC] Ian McGrath]

I beat the 26 quests of the codex after spending gems for the 1st time only to find there is a second level I would have to go through. **** Funzio - bunch of greedy ba$tards that they are. This is the last time I spend any money on their game. They could have had a recurring spender. But that is definitely not happening now.

Gree/Funzio is a company. Companies like to make money (they have employees to pay, electric bills, etc). You can play any of their games for free; but they make their money through us buying gems. So yes they try to do what they can to get us to buy gems. All of these quest events have two parts: regular and heroic. So in the future you will know that you need to finish both to get the main prize.

That being said you probably up'd your stats quite and bit and hopefully didn't spend any more money then you would have by buying a PS3 or Xbox game. The way I see it if you have invested 60 or more hours in this game then it is worth at least the $60 you'd spend on a console game.

So don't be so sad; be happy! You're stronger and you've supported the game so they can continue to improve it.

[nicsonology]

I beat the 26 quests of the codex after spending gems for the 1st time only to find there is a second level I would have to go through. **** Funzio - bunch of greedy ba$tards that they are. This is the last time I spend any money on their game. They could have had a recurring spender. But that is definitely not happening now.

Try to read the forum regularly, every post here is useful and you may know there have II part in earlier stage if read

[SoccerStud]

You spent gems on the first one? I beat it free with 30 hours

[GFF]

No gems spent and I'm on 11/26, part II.

[rutty]

This is the best quest chain in AGES. Some great drops, achievable by free players. I'm up to 8/26 in heroic - completely without using gems - but so tempted to buy some just to get a few more of these heroic mobs before the end

[Jixx]

1,5 more mobs to kill at 11/26 H mode, hope ill make it :P

[groovdog]

You definitely need to read up on the forums. If you are not level 85ish and have something like Cupid you will have to spend. And thats if you are near optimum for energy use (ie less riposte energy burns from mobs). At 15/26 Heroic level 67 with Cupid but based on simple math if I optimize I am not going to get much past 19. And given how low my recharge is per gem purchase I am going to have a tough decision to make...

[groovdog]

1,5 more mobs to kill at 11/26 H mode, hope ill make it :P You wont even be close unless you are level 150+. Simply not enough energy left to regen vs damage need to be done. Good luck anyways :)

[Coolhandlukeboy]

How far everyone is reached?

Completely free, just finishing up level 17 H. Doesn't really seem worth gems to me. I used my daily 20 gems so far each day, but it is not really worth a gem purchase IMHO. I wish I had done more gems on the last LTQ though. Mind you, I have over 150 gems just from tapjoy over the past few days. I don't think the price to troop is worth it. These troops are barely cracking 1100 attack or defense in the twenties. Maybe I'm spoiled... Anyone want to disagree with me and help me spend those gems burning a hole in my pocket?

[Mr T Perfect]

Im on level 12/26 in herioc mode - not spent a gem but did get a full re-charge for a level up. That with being locked out of the event for a couple of hours because the monster would not spawn after killing two!!! ticket to gree still awaiting a response.
11 hours to go guys. so i might just get to level 13. thinking of blowing my 20 gems from today on making sure are the next monster have a 800+ defense.
In the last LTQ's i have gained nearly 30K in attack and defence units... got to love LTQ's

[Silent follower]

I'll call it quits after I just cleared 14/26 (H). If it would be a weekend, I'd probably make also the next one, but that would require playing most of the remaining 11h. I spent 20 gems immediately when the event started, was out of energy after the bards tale. That was wise, I got a good start with the low level enemies in one go. Now waiting if the next one starts immediately when this closes with full energy. :)

[Spydrax]

Your premise is incomplete. You want to stack more heavily towards defense in any case, regardless of how-to-tame-your-dragon status. This is because you always have control over whom you attack, so you can choose to only fight battles that you already have a high likelihood of winning. The same cannot be said on defense. Hence, most players will want to stack more defense than offense. The only exception would be gem players, because nobody can attack them anyway.

Also, just in the off chance that someone from Gree actually reads this: sharing the formula for how attack and defense skill points work won't "remove the mystery" from pvp. We would just like to know so we can do our maths. We still won't know how many points our victi...er, opponents have allocated, so the mystery will remain. We would just be happier. And it's free! I hear companies like solutions that make their customers happy and are free, but what do I know...

You've made a good and valid point! As I was uncertain how these points worked, I've tried keeping a balance. Believing this strategy has merit, I'm going to push heavier towards defense now. Thank you!

To the other posts about reading the forums; They couldn't be more true! Even veteran players will learn something new most days because someone who doesn't know something will ask and then,well, there you are; information passes on! We all gain knowledge!

[Gambit12]

I'm on 20/26 now on Heroic mode with 5 hrs & 49 mins left & counting. I reached 16/26 H with only free energy regeneration & now starting to burn some gems. 120 gems so far & going to get it done soon cause i'm going to sleep early with an early work tomorrow...

[Perfuzzie]

I'm on 20/26 now on Heroic mode with 5 hrs & 49 mins left & counting. I reached 16/26 H with only free energy regeneration & now starting to burn some gems. 120 gems so far & going to get it done soon cause i'm going to sleep early with an early work tomorrow...

good luck gambit , let us know how many gems u needed to finish

[Intan jabrut]

I'm finish 24/26 H. I don't want to continue coz as a free gems player, I know I can't grab this grand prize. But I still happy with this LTQ. Thank's a lot GREE....

[Mr T Perfect]

I agree intan - it has been an excellent LTQ. nice for the free players to go close

I have given up at 13/26 in heroic. trying to find damn boxes to try and not open! please try again. 5 hours - 5 attempts - 1 open, how is 20% opening rate medium (they have all been cash attempts)

[Q-Ball]

On 23/26 (H) Free... 4 hrs to go. Would like to finish 2 LTQs in a row, but don't want to spend gems on this one... Maybe. Haha, we'll see what happens in the last hour. Muahahaha

[War Eagle]

Just finished 16/26 H going the free route. Stopping there. Good luck to those still pressing on.

[Eddie_m63]

Still hitting them lol

[GreenGuru]

won't be getting any further in this one... dang lifeproof case couldn't survive my life. Recording the manatees underwater didn't agree with my phone so now I have to get my phone fixed :mad:

[Gambit12]

On 23/26 (H) Free... 4 hrs to go. Would like to finish 2 LTQs in a row, but don't want to spend gems on this one... Maybe. Haha, we'll see what happens in the last hour. Muahahaha

You are really good on this thing Q-ball! You preserving your gems at the last moment. I like your strategy & you should go for it if i were you. Good Luck!

[Mickeytah]

Finished 21/26 (H) giving me 19 units with at least 1,100 attack.

[itsaklayton]

Finished last night using about 650 gems. Nice prizes and nice stat boosts. Thank you GREE.

[kplm]

Finished last night using about 650 gems. Nice prizes and nice stat boosts. Thank you GREE.

Nice job! I am jealous

[itsaklayton]

Thanks, I love this game.

[kplm]

Thanks, I love this game.

I do too, I just don't have the money to spend on gems. Good thing they give some free ones though, so I can get some good stuff.

[itsaklayton]

I do too, I just don't have the money to spend on gems. Good thing they give some free ones though, so I can get some good stuff.I am working really had to learn all I can from you all to minimize my gem use.

[Mickeytah]

I am working really had to learn all I can from you all to minimize my gem use.

Best advice regarding minimum gem usage is to wait until the tail end of the event so that way you can use as much free energy as possible and the bare minimum of gems. You do have to make sure you give yourself enough time at the end, though. I imagine it would be very aggravating to have enough gems to finish an LTQ but not finishing it because you waited too long.