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The Billionaire
03-01-2013, 05:49 PM
Welcome to my guide for Crime City Boss Events. I spent a number of months using my camper account to gather data regarding how much health each boss has. Post #2 shows the estimated boss health for each tier. Below is my opinion on the best strategy to use and other information i've gathered during my time playing boss events in Crime City.
What We Know...
Do not start the boss event until the goal has appeared in your "Goals" list. Any boss levels completed before the goal has appeared in your "Goals" list won't count towards winning the grand prize.
The boss events have a number of different tiers. See below:
Tier 1 - Levels 1 to 25
Tier 2 - Levels 26 to 50
Tier 3 - Levels 51 to 75
Tier 4 - Levels 76 to 100
Tier 5 - Levels 101 to 200
The number of points needed to beat each boss is different for the above tiers. They increase as you move up through the tiers.
The Grand Prize and the other prizes is the same for all tiers.
Don't level up into the next tier if a boss event is close to starting because the points needed to beat each boss increases dramatically. (Hence why us campers love the boss events) When the boss event begins it logs which tier you are in allocates you to the relevant boss health for that tier. It doesn't matter if you level up into the next during a boss event, it only takes into account which tier you were in when the event started.
You have 3 different options when attacking a boss. See the "How It Works" section.
When your health is full you have 100 health points. Once you've attacked the boss your health regenerates at 1 point per minute.
When you attack the boss you use 25 of your health points or if you've got less than 25 health points then it takes whatever you have left. However, you don't lose any health during the final attack which kills the boss. So if you have 26 health when you kill the boss you only need to wait 74 minutes for your health to reach 100% again. This can be very beneficial for planning when you can next attack the boss with full health.
Everytime you defeat a boss you are awarded XP, Cash and a Weapon (Common, Uncommon or Rare).
Any boss levels completed after boss level 50 are awarded the same amount of cash (Unknown) and XP (255) as the level 50 boss.
Boss events use your attack skill points and your profile attack score. See the "How It Works" section.
Its to your advantage to be using the maximum number of mafia your level allows during the boss event. The better equipped your mafia is the higher your attack score will be so stock up on explosives during the boss events.
When you level up during a boss event your health is refilled. Free players should use their level ups wisely. If you've reached the point where you can't beat the boss with the 13 free hits then you should fight him and level up during the fight because you'll get an extra 5 hits when you level up.
Buying a health pack (10 Gold) gives you 50 health points. See the "Health Packs" section.
Each boss level has 'X' amount of points needed to defeat the boss. The health of the boss does not increase whilst you are waiting to launch your next attack.
You can attack a boss 13 times for free. See "The Strategy" section.
Syndicate bonuses don't count towards your attack score when hitting the boss.
How It Works
When you attack the boss it uses your "Attack Skill Points" multiplied by 10 and adds it to your "Attack" stat, shown below:
(Attack Skill Points x 10) + Profile Attack Stat = Your Attack score against the boss.
The above, is the calculation for selecting "Cash Option" when fighting a boss. The other two options are shown below:
Quick Attack (Totally Free) - Uses the above equation divided by 2
Mega Attack (20 Gold) - Uses the above equation multiplied by 4
You trigger a boss by doing a job, fighting or robbing a rival. The fight screen will appear and give you 3 fight options:
Quick Attack
Cash Attack
Mega Attack
When you attack the boss you use 25 of your health points or if you've got less than 25 health points then it takes whatever you have left. This is why it's vital that you wait 26 minutes before launching another attack because it enables you to hit him twice with only 26 health points.
Each boss level has a score which determines the number of points needed to beat each boss. This score increases as each boss level is completed. The scores are different for each of the 5 boss tiers.
The Strategy
It's possible to hit a boss 13 times for free. This is how it's done.
When you have full health trigger the boss. When the fight appears attack the boss 3 times using the cash option. Wait one minute so that your health increases by one and then you'll be able to attack him 2 more times.
Wait 26 minutes and then you can attack the boss 2 more times.
Wait 26 minutes and then you can attack the boss 2 more times.
Wait 26 minutes and then you can attack the boss 2 more times.
Wait 26 minutes and then you can attack the boss 2 more times.
Using the above strategy will tell you how many boss levels you can complete for free.
NOTE:- If you leave the boss fight screen with less than 25 health points it won't let you back in until you have 25 health points. Always make sure you enough cash on hand before fighting the boss.
Health Packs (HP's)
Once you reach the boss level where it's no longer possible to beat him with the 13 "Cash" hits you might need to start purchasing HP's (10 Gold). HP's give you 50 health points but there's also a strategy to be used when buying HP's:
When you've used all of your health points to attack a boss don't purchase a HP straight away. Wait one minute for your health to increase to 1 and then purchase the HP (50 Health Points) because you'll have 51 health points and be able to attack the boss another 3 times. If you purchase a HP straight away you'll only have 50 health points which will only allow you to attack the boss 2 more times.
Using this strategy means HP's are a better way of spending gold rather than mega attacks. A mega attack (20 Gold) is your attack score multiplied by 4 so in theory it's the equivilent of 4 hits against the boss. Using the above strategy and purchasing 2 HP's (Total of 20 Gold) means you can hit the boss 6 times rather than 4.
Boss Health
Each boss needs 'X' amount of points to be beaten. The points needed are different for each of the 5 tiers. The points needed to beat the boss increase as each boss level is completed. As i said at the start of the thread i've been collecting as much data as possible.
Post number 2 shows a table with the "ESTIMATED" number of points needed to beat each boss.
Conclusion
Boss events are awesome for strong players at the lower levels.
The "26 Minute" strategy must be used to hit the boss a maximum of 13 times for free.
Spending gold on Health Packs is much more beneficial than spending gold on Mega Attacks.
The number of points needed to beat the bosses in Tier 5 is ridiculous.
My work here is done and i'm glad this thread has helped so many players
The Billionaire
03-01-2013, 05:50 PM
Below is a table showing rough estimates of the points needed to defeat each boss for the different tiers and levels. I've been logging my data for all the boss events so far which has enabled me to produce the below. The majority of the figures are very solid although some figures have been total guess work
My other concern is that the points needed to defeat each boss changes for some of the boss events. This has been reflected in the data i've collected. I think different point structures are used depending on how many boss levels need to be completed to win the grand prize.
Thanks to Tomatoneverdie & Minji976 for providing me with the Tier 4 data.
Thanks to MattThomas08 for providing the data from levels 40 to 50 in tiers 4 & 5
Boss
Level
XP
Tier 1
Levels 1-25
Tier 2
Levels 26-50
Tier 3
Levels 51-75
Tier 4
Levels 76-100
Tier 5
Levels 101-200
1
10
300
3,000
3,000
5,000
10,000
2
15
400
6,000
6,000
10,000
20,000
3
20
500
9,000
9,000
20,000
30,000
4
25
600
12,000
12,000
30,000
40,000
5
30
700
15,000
15,000
40,000
50,000
6
35
1,000
20,000
20,000
60,000
60,000
7
40
1,500
25,000
25,000
80,000
80,000
8
45
2,000
30,000
30,000
100,000
100,000
9
50
2,500
35,000
35,000
130,000
125,000
10
55
3,000
40,000
40,000
160,000
150,000
11
60
3,500
45,000
50,000
190,000
175,000
12
65
4,000
50,000
60,000
220,000
200,000
13
70
4,500
55,000
70,000
250,000
250,000
14
75
5,000
60,000
80,000
280,000
300,000
15
80
6,000
65,000
90,000
310,000
400,000
16
85
7,000
70,000
100,000
340,000
500,000
17
90
8,000
75,000
120,000
370,000
650,000
18
95
9,500
80,000
140,000
400,000
800,000
19
100
11,000
85,000
160,000
450,000
950,000
20
105
13,500
90,000
180,000
500,000
1,250,000
21
110
15,000
95,000
200,000
550,000
1,500,000
22
115
20,000
100,000
240,000
600,000
1,750,000
23
120
25,000
120,000
280,000
650,000
2,000,000
24
125
30,000
140,000
320,000
700,000
2,500,000
25
130
35,000
160,000
360,000
750,000
3,000,000
26
135
40,000
180,000
400,000
800,000
3,500,000
27
140
45,000
200,000
440,000
850,000
4,000,000
28
145
50,000
225,000
480,000
900,000
4,500,000
29
150
55,000
250,000
520,000
950,000
5,000,000
30
155
60,000
260,000
560,000
1,000,000
5,500,000
31
160
65,000
270,000
590,000
1,050,000
6,250,000
32
165
70,000
280,000
620,000
1,100,000
7,000,000
33
170
75,000
290,000
650,000
1,150,000
7,500,000
34
175
80,000
300,000
680,000
1,200,000
8,000,000
35
180
85,000
310,000
710,000
1,250,000
8,500,000
36
185
90,000
320,000
740,000
1,300,000
9,000,000
37
190
95,000
330,000
770,000
1,360,000
9,500,000
38
195
100,000
340,000
800,000
1,420,000
10,000,000
39
200
105,000
350,000
840,000
1,480,000
10,500,000
40
205
110,000
360,000
880,000
1,540,000
11,000,000
41
210
115,000
370,000
920,000
1,580,000
11,500,000
42
215
120,000
380,000
960,000
1,620,000
12,000,000
43
220
125,000
390,000
1,000,000
1,660,000
12,500,000
44
225
130,000
400,000
1,040,000
1,700,000
13,000,000
45
230
135,000
410,000
1,080,000
1,740,000
13,500,000
46
235
140,000
420,000
1,120,000
1,790,000
14,000,000
47
240
145,000
430,000
1,160,000
1,840,000
14,500,000
48
245
150,000
440,000
1,200,000
1,890,000
15,000,000
49
250
155,000
450,000
1,240,000
1,940,000
15,500,000
50
255
160,000
460,000
1,280,000
1,990,000
16,000,000
(N8iV) RayJ
03-01-2013, 06:04 PM
Cool thanks for the guide
PuckinWebGuy
03-01-2013, 06:09 PM
Billionaire, thanks for bringing this back!
Icecauldron
03-01-2013, 06:20 PM
When can u start triggering a boss? Lvl 10?
The Billionaire
03-01-2013, 06:26 PM
When can u start triggering a boss? Lvl 10?
I believe they trigger from the start of the game
bald zeemer
03-01-2013, 06:27 PM
Cheers bill.
The only thing with a gap now is how many health packs you can buy and use efficiently on a boss.
With perfect timing, you can get your 13 hits in taking 1 hr, 45 mins. So that would leave you with 15 shots at health pack. Of course, IRL the seconds you take to actually click would bring that down to at least 14, probably 13. Beyond this point you can't take your extra minute, and mega attack and health pack become equal. If you were to go for significantly more than 13 you'd probably need to give up on efficient health-packing at 12.
Of course, once you were reduced to mega attacking you could combine mega-attack and health packs to save significant time.
IRL it'd rarely be worthwhile for most players to buy more than around 25-30 packs, unless you have exhausted all other means to improve stats (which AFAIK nobody has yet done).
the_dude
03-01-2013, 07:28 PM
Thanks Billionaire for bringing this back. I know its helped a lot of people (including me :)).
I hope with all the changes they have been making lately, they break up the tier above 100. And do something to balance out the tiers a bit more.
HenryVIII
03-01-2013, 08:47 PM
I'll try my hardest to get you more data for tier 4. Hopefully during next boss event. We'll see. :-)
sister morphine
03-01-2013, 11:19 PM
Hey Bill, it's good to see this invaluable work returned to the forum. Should've guessed you wouldn't just kill it without preserving the record 👍👍👍
jaywalker
03-02-2013, 02:25 AM
So.. I saw this and I made a little start for a "how many healthpacks do I need?" sheet.
Anyone want to add/change it?
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B26Ox_TYyvKHMC1OSUdXT0tMakk/edit?usp=sharing
Put it together in the last 20 mins, but I have to go... But I guess someoen here could make it prettier and add tiers or w/e..
I did not take account for time restriction on the free ones (can't really have 13 free and use + wait 1 min for 23 health packs.
"no, no, noooo" - Quote from Family Guy
cr0nchef
03-02-2013, 08:15 PM
thank you for bringing this back ......everyone prolly needed or wanted this lol, thanks again major help to the community billionare
OneHoop
03-02-2013, 09:05 PM
I keep linking to this, so
http://tinyurl.com/CCbosses
M@
Sunsets
03-02-2013, 09:12 PM
Good to have this back again Bill. Huge help as always
stu_pidaso
03-07-2013, 02:43 PM
The 26 minute rule will certainly be applied!
Accepting High level High doner Syndicate members
Syndicate number 402 759 975
Mafia number 783 754 773
PuckinWebGuy
03-26-2013, 05:37 PM
Looks like Tier 2 dropped with the Bernie Greenback event, at least at lower levels. As some examples, it took me 18k to beat level 10 epic boss, 35k to beat level 13 epic boss, and 46k to beat level 16. (I'm on level 34 with my camper account). It did go back to the numbers on the chart later, since levels 25-28 matched the chart perfectly.
cr0nchef
03-27-2013, 10:33 PM
Looks like Tier 2 dropped with the Bernie Greenback event, at least at lower levels. As some examples, it took me 18k to beat level 10 epic boss, 35k to beat level 13 epic boss, and 46k to beat level 16. (I'm on level 34 with my camper account)
definetly did I one hitted all the way up to lvl 10 with 13,xxxk att.
(CCK) Cam
03-28-2013, 12:34 PM
Thanks Billionaire. I use this method all the time when I attack the boss. I just used this strategy against Boss Bernie Greenback
Fatherllama
03-29-2013, 01:25 AM
Awesome thread, invaluable information. Will help me out quite a bit on MW too, should be able to get at least an extra two or three levels on each boss.
Daswi
03-30-2013, 04:35 AM
Has the tier structure changed now that the cap level has increased?
bald zeemer
03-30-2013, 04:55 AM
No.
I imagine they need more people to move into the 201-250 bracket to get the required stats to set new boss health.
Ak Killah
03-30-2013, 05:04 AM
No.
I imagine they need more people to move into the 201-250 bracket to get the required stats to set new boss health.New boss tier, that's harsh tier 5 i hard enough.
bald zeemer
03-30-2013, 05:10 AM
If they reconfigure then the overwhelming majority of high-stat players will be in the new top tier. The average stats in the next tier should drop, and the end result would be something along the lines of a tier for 101-150, or 101-200 that is actually easier than current tier 5.
IF they reconfigure.
OneHoop
03-30-2013, 07:52 AM
Tier 5 seems the same at LV105
M@
bald zeemer
03-30-2013, 07:56 AM
Having completed tier 5 I can confirm 100% that it is the same.
ronaldocyh
04-13-2013, 06:57 PM
excuse me, suppose I'm lv75 (so I'll be fighting t3 boss) when I am fighting lv.1 boss and I level up to lv 76 some time later, do I have to have t4 boss (as I'm now lv76) or will I still be facing t3 boss because I start the boss fight at lv75?
thanks
bald zeemer
04-13-2013, 08:16 PM
You stay in the same tier you started in.
nocs00
04-19-2013, 09:27 AM
What the hack with this boss events? :( i'm on 12 lvl, having 5k atack, but when i choose cash attack option - it hits boss only for 2200 hp... Why it happens so? Also some same things going on my 220 lvl, with 124k atack i'm doing only 110k hp damage
Ramshutu
04-19-2013, 09:40 AM
What the hack with this boss events? :( i'm on 12 lvl, having 5k atack, but when i choose cash attack option - it hits boss only for 2200 hp... Why it happens so? Also some same things going on my 220 lvl, with 124k atack i'm doing only 110k hp damage
Boosts show on your profile, but attacks on the boss use your unboosted atk.
nocs00
04-19-2013, 10:24 AM
Boosts show on your profile, but attacks on the boss use your unboosted atk.
but i haven't any boosts on my 12 lvl character, it's pure 5k attack from items :)
nocs00
04-19-2013, 10:27 AM
seems that it ignores stats from items that i have gained from this boss... Perfect. As always, GREE guys stay very smart and GREEd.
Issaquah
04-19-2013, 10:34 AM
Appears Tier 4 has become a bit out of date. From what I'm experiencing the boss has the subisquent boss' health. For example;
Boss 1 - 10k (shown as boss 2 health)
Boss 2 - 20k (shown as bosd 3 health)
Boss 5 - 60k (shown as boss 6 health)
Kidkiller
04-19-2013, 04:15 PM
Wow I mus say thank you Bill. I've never knew how wrongs I was doing this events. Now it will be easier.
Jame Hetfield
04-19-2013, 06:41 PM
Anyone know how much gold would be needed to defeat the boss with these stats:
Level 22 boss defeated
Level 70 account
33k attack
Can anyone give me a rough estimate? It would be ridiculously appreciated.
If you follow the guide perfectly: 350 gold to get to and complete final.
Jame Hetfield
04-19-2013, 06:56 PM
If you follow the guide perfectly: 350 gold to get to and complete final.
Interesting. I'll give at a crack and report my findings. Thank you sir.
Ramshutu
04-19-2013, 06:58 PM
Appears Tier 4 has become a bit out of date. From what I'm experiencing the boss has the subisquent boss' health. For example;
Boss 1 - 10k (shown as boss 2 health)
Boss 2 - 20k (shown as bosd 3 health)
Boss 5 - 60k (shown as boss 6 health)
While I'm not sure about the first couple of bosses (which maybe wrong) the higher level points for teir 4 match perfectly with the information posted here. I always keep track of whether the teir changes during the event.
Holicaholic
04-19-2013, 07:07 PM
The boss info for the first two tiers is out of date. I've mentioned it a few times
Jame Hetfield
04-20-2013, 12:04 AM
Wanted to see if someone could tell me if I'm doing this correctly:
Level 27 boss took me 40 gold to beat.
1. Started at full health. Three attacks wait one minute then two more attacks.
2. Refill with ten gold. Wait one minute and then perform three hits.
3. Repeat last three times (for this particular level boss)
Also wanted to know if I should be waiting to fill up 100% naturally before activating the next boss. Or should I just drop the ten gold and start immediately with three hits. What is the optimal way?
bald zeemer
04-20-2013, 12:27 AM
Wanted to see if someone could tell me if I'm doing this correctly:
Level 27 boss took me 40 gold to beat.
1. Started at full health. Three attacks wait one minute then two more attacks.
2. Refill with ten gold. Wait one minute and then perform three hits.
3. Repeat last three times (for this particular level boss)
That's how to do it if you want to power through bosses at best speed.
To do it at lowest gold cost you need to perform step 1 as stated, but then: wait 26 minutes, attack twice. Repeat 4 times (for total 13 free hits), then perform step 2/3 as required.
Also wanted to know if I should be waiting to fill up 100% naturally before activating the next boss. Or should I just drop the ten gold and start immediately with three hits. What is the optimal way?
Again, it depends on whether fastest speed or lowest cost is your aim.
Fastest speed then use health packs. Lowest cost then wait the 99/74/49 minutes after your last hit (depending on health left when perofmring your kill-hit) and go again.
Bala82
04-20-2013, 05:59 AM
I know what i use 50 free gold i got this month :)
(CCK) Cam
04-20-2013, 05:59 AM
but i haven't any boosts on my 12 lvl character, it's pure 5k attack from items :) Are you in a syndicate with attack bonuses??
Bala82
04-20-2013, 06:01 AM
Are you in a syndicate with attack bonuses??
The attack bonus doesn't work on boss events.
@ Jame Hetfield:
What Bald zeemer wrote you above is what I referred to as 'following the guide perfectly' - It is in Billionaires write up. Make sure you do understand this method before spending more gold.
This way you could have done it with 350 gold. Now since you spend 40 already you will now by following this strategy to the t end up with a total spend of 390. You may fare a little better as my calculation does not take into account what weapons you gain while defeating bosses and I am not taking into account any level ups.
Jame Hetfield
04-20-2013, 10:00 AM
Thanks bald Zeemer and teo. I had forgotten to wait the 26 minutes when I started using the gold. I thought it was refil with gold right away, wait one minute, attack 3, then repeat. Forgot you can wait 26 as well.
This is gonna take a while...
You got it, and yes getting through boss this way is a grind....however you will get stronger each time. I don't know how many bosses you will be able to get before hitting tier 4 but you should be able to get some. I ran the numbers for you at tier 4. Lets assume you will be able to get to 50k boss attack. Then it will cost you 570 gold to get to 40...
Kidkiller
04-20-2013, 12:28 PM
The lvl 40 boss on tier 3 will cost me 70-80 gold to finish him. Not bad knowing I'm way under the minimum requirement to this tier attack amount. Lvl 32 that I'm doing right now will cost me 4 health pack.
Kepheus2nd
04-20-2013, 09:26 PM
I believe they trigger from the start of the game
I have a lvl 6 camper game that sees the goal and gets the splash screen repeatedly, alas triggering the boss doesn't seem possible. I tried robbing, attacking every day, but no boss. Is that just me or did they move boss events to lvl 10?
H-Wood
04-20-2013, 10:56 PM
Bill,
Been awhile since we talked, but as always, your insight, professionalism and commitment to helping this community is unparalleled. Thank you!
With the utmost respect,
H
Fatherllama
04-20-2013, 11:19 PM
I have a lvl 6 camper game that sees the goal and gets the splash screen repeatedly, alas triggering the boss doesn't seem possible. I tried robbing, attacking every day, but no boss. Is that just me or did they move boss events to lvl 10?
Nope, my bluestacks camper started killing bosses at level 5, but I do know a lot of people were having trouble getting the boss to trigger at all.
Kepheus2nd
04-21-2013, 12:34 AM
Nope, my bluestacks camper started killing bosses at level 5, but I do know a lot of people were having trouble getting the boss to trigger at all.
Good to know, thanks!
rijnenm1
04-21-2013, 10:09 AM
Hey guys,
Does anybody have an overview or so of the XP required for each level?
I'm considering beating the boss 40 times, but not sure if this would push me into the next category (i.e. over lvl 25)?
Many thanks
bald zeemer
04-21-2013, 12:58 PM
Why camp in a tier if you're going to pass on a boss? The entire point is to be able to beat him 40 ted. If you can, do it.
hydesd2
04-22-2013, 12:59 PM
Thank you for this. Because of this guide I've successfully conpleted my first epic boss lvl 40!!
i was wondering how the attack on a boss is calculated.
i am at lvl 69. att score is 44.524 maffia attack.
attack skill is 53.
when i attack the boss i see that he now gets 31093 damage.
how is this figure build up?
panty sniffer
04-22-2013, 01:38 PM
Hey guys,
Does anybody have an overview or so of the XP required for each level?
I'm considering beating the boss 40 times, but not sure if this would push me into the next category (i.e. over lvl 25)?
Many thanks
Once the event starts, your tier has been established and you won't move to next tier regardless how many times you level during the event or if you level into what would be the next tier..
I noticed the tier 2 is a 2 boss levels off but still a nice guide. Have to spend 40 more gold than I though following the Xcel sheet provided by Matt Thomas08-Silent Assasins
panty sniffer
04-22-2013, 01:42 PM
i was wondering how the attack on a boss is calculated.
i am at lvl 69. att score is 44.524 maffia attack.
attack skill is 53.
when i attack the boss i see that he now gets 31093 damage.
how is this figure build up?
It is your BASE attack minus syn bonuses and any other attack bonuses provided by any items. (Base attack) + (attack skill points x10) = damage to boss
@panty sniffer thnx.
but how do i then calculate my base attack score :-)
with skill 53 this will result in 530 damage points. clear!
panty sniffer
04-22-2013, 01:57 PM
You would have to take your profile attk score and subtract the percentage of syn bonuses and items reinforcing your attack. complete pain in the butt. Easier to note what damage has occurred to the boss as soon as you strike," it says what dmg is just above his head."
your right. 53 attack skill adds 530 attk to your base attk.
Anyone knows what happens after boss #50 is defeated? Will one stop triggering boss during robbery or it reverts to lvl. 1?
panty sniffer
04-23-2013, 03:31 PM
Hey guys,
Does anybody have an overview or so of the XP required for each level?
I'm considering beating the boss 40 times, but not sure if this would push me into the next category (i.e. over lvl 25)?
Many thanks
Once the event starts your tier is set and is not changed during the event even if you were to lvl into the next tier. I verified this during the present event. Lvled from 48 to 53 during the event and my tier didn't move up.
Tier is dead set in beginning of event and does not change during the event,
no matter what.
killshot
04-25-2013, 09:05 PM
Anyone knows what happens after boss #50 is defeated? Will one stop triggering boss during robbery or it reverts to lvl. 1?
Boss 50 just repeats over and over.
Icecauldron
04-26-2013, 09:28 AM
The boss info for the first two tiers is out of date. I've mentioned it a few times
Does anyone have the latest hit points for tier 1&2?
MediumRawr
04-26-2013, 10:05 AM
Just beat my first boss event with 130 Gold. Great guide, thanks Billionaire
Cayman
04-26-2013, 05:56 PM
Thanks for the information. It helped me on the last boss job significantly.
BigMoney
04-26-2013, 10:00 PM
Wow, I just came across a guy who beat the boss 307 times. I'm glad I read here that the level 50 boss repeats, because the guy's attack (even with 307 event items) isn't enough to beat the level 40 boss, so he had to spend a huge amount of gold... but perhaps not too huge amount of gold. And he's sitting in the top 25 of the current event, so he obviously has gold to spare.
He had:
34 skullbiter sawed offs,
28 riot mob nailguns,
47 radioactive cadillacs,
40 toxic razors,
30 chaos bombs,
32 punk plaid pants,
46 studded rock jackets,
24 rebel spike boots,
26 anarchy gas masks.
I think this is interesting because it breaks down to:
78 rare = 25.4%
127 uncommon = 41.4%
102 common = 33.2%
Since most of these items dropped after level 40, I think these figures aren't too far off on the drop rate for bosses after level 40. Maybe something like 30R/40U/30C?
Perhaps this is already common knowledge, but since I suspect the drop rate of R/U/C items changes as you progress through the boss levels, I was curious as to the exact drop rates. I think I read on here somewhere once that it's normally like 10R/25U/65C?
i lvl 30, the 10th boss, one shot, 19500 damage...
Icecauldron
05-07-2013, 07:01 AM
Must be changes
Swedevil
05-07-2013, 08:19 AM
Wow, I just came across a guy who beat the boss 307 times. I'm glad I read here that the level 50 boss repeats, because the guy's attack (even with 307 event items) isn't enough to beat the level 40 boss, so he had to spend a huge amount of gold... but perhaps not too huge amount of gold. And he's sitting in the top 25 of the current event, so he obviously has gold to spare.
He had:
34 skullbiter sawed offs,
28 riot mob nailguns,
47 radioactive cadillacs,
40 toxic razors,
30 chaos bombs,
32 punk plaid pants,
46 studded rock jackets,
24 rebel spike boots,
26 anarchy gas masks.
I think this is interesting because it breaks down to:
78 rare = 25.4%
127 uncommon = 41.4%
102 common = 33.2%
Since most of these items dropped after level 40, I think these figures aren't too far off on the drop rate for bosses after level 40. Maybe something like 30R/40U/30C?
Perhaps this is already common knowledge, but since I suspect the drop rate of R/U/C items changes as you progress through the boss levels, I was curious as to the exact drop rates. I think I read on here somewhere once that it's normally like 10R/25U/65C?
This is rather interesting. Didn't know you could continue after 50.
groovdog
05-07-2013, 12:20 PM
Perhaps this is already common knowledge, but since I suspect the drop rate of R/U/C items changes as you progress through the boss levels, I was curious as to the exact drop rates. I think I read on here somewhere once that it's normally like 10R/25U/65C?People in MW has shown the same thing.
BigMoney
05-07-2013, 12:31 PM
People in MW has shown the same thing.
Well, I'm not familiar with MW, so if you could tell me more, that would be great. Are you saying that 10R/25U/65C is the droprate for bosses unless level 40? Or how does it change as you progress through the boss levels?
asstron
05-07-2013, 03:02 PM
Sweet post. It shows me that I don't stand a chance of killing him more than 15 times or so. Why did I level so fast?!
Panda Express
05-08-2013, 11:32 AM
I'm not sure if someone answered it but I know for a fact you can begin the Boss event at level 5 and the case events are level 10.
I began my boss event at lvl 5, and case events at lvl 10
Ragmondino
05-09-2013, 02:06 PM
Hey bill thanks for this thread.
Hey bill thanks for this thread.He ripped it off from SAS. #smugplagiarism
The Billionaire
05-09-2013, 03:42 PM
Hey bill thanks for this thread.
Anything for you Raggy.
I'm disgusted it took you this long to read it haha
Ramshutu
05-09-2013, 03:46 PM
Anything for you Raggy.
I'm disgusted it took you this long to read it haha
If that's the only thing that disgusts you about Raggy, you obviously do not read HTC general.
The Billionaire
05-09-2013, 03:50 PM
That's correct Ram, my eyes don't want to see what's in that room ever again.
Biggie Pac
05-09-2013, 10:15 PM
Thanks for guide its great. Most people have no clue how it works
Tommy Two Toes
06-10-2013, 06:57 AM
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/clarkrulez/Bump75000.jpg
Lipstick
06-10-2013, 07:49 AM
This is a necro please ban this guy.
The original poster lost all credibility in this forum
Tommy Two Toes
06-10-2013, 08:13 AM
The original poster lost all credibility in this forum
I don't care for politics, or he said / she said.
This is a useful thread, and it should be probably be stickied. Every boss event, there are at least 3 new threads asking how they work, or how many times they will have to hit a boss from a certain level.
I'm curious what value you think you are adding.
panty sniffer
06-10-2013, 11:38 AM
^^ Agreed. The guide is very useful and should be reviewed by anyone with questions before asking on the forum. The guide probably answers 99% of them.
It isn't included in the "best of the best" sticky and would be one of the few that still isn't out-dated if it was.
Legit necro that should have been sticky a long time ago.
Coconut
06-10-2013, 01:23 PM
Billionaire . Are all tier table still same before? Look alike some change in the boss event
Tommy Two Toes
06-10-2013, 01:51 PM
Billionaire . Are all tier table still same before? Look alike some change in the boss event
From what I can tell, the hit-points remain the same by tier. I have a 26-50, 51-75, and 76-100 that all seem to be scoring the right number of hits on each boss.
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 01:59 PM
From what I can tell, the hit-points remain the same by tier. I have a 26-50, 51-75, and 76-100 that all seem to be scoring the right number of hits on each boss.
At 135, and they seem to be lowered. Not sure if new tier or lower Tier 5.
The Billionaire
06-10-2013, 02:07 PM
This is a necro please ban this guy.
The original poster lost all credibility in this forum
Lol, you attempted to but failed. BLNT
You actually did me a favour, every cloud has a silver lining.
Billionaire . Are all tier table still same before? Look alike some change in the boss event
I believe so, by all means if there's evidence of change i'll update the thread.
Kidkiller
06-10-2013, 02:07 PM
I think its a new tier Big Money, I'm trying to figure out this with my synd.
The Billionaire
06-10-2013, 02:09 PM
I think its a new tier Big Money, I'm trying to figure out this with my synd.
Could be a possibility, they might of put some new tiers in at level 150 and 200.
I've got accounts at level 107 and 172 so i'll try and confirm.
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 02:19 PM
EDIT: NOPE, DISREGARD THIS MESSAGE, WAS A MISTAKE ON THE SPLASH SCREENS
Another change that seems more readily confirmable is that the boss prizes depend on your level (higher stat prizes for higher level players). For example, the prize I see at level 135 is to defeat the boss 20 times to earn Madam's Main Force (3926/3728). Others at lower tiers are seeing this prize at 30, 40, or 50.
Alex_
06-10-2013, 02:47 PM
I'm on tier 3 and its appears I get the bunny bomb for defeating the boss 20 times and then madams prestige for beating her 30 times.
And then there's the gun madams main force which my splash screen says beats the boss 30 times so I don't how many times that is ? I'm guessing like swedevil said its 50 and the 1st 20 is the normal goal then the next 30 is elite goals.
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 03:07 PM
At 135, and they seem to be lowered. Not sure if new tier or lower Tier 5.
I retract this statement. Tier 5 is still the same for me, and I just used my free attacks to confirm it. Level 16 was 500,000 HP, and I used a free attack that would have summed to 490,000 and I came up short. Kidkiller got me all excited earlier that they would have fixed the tiers. I guess GREE's plan is to continue with absurd stat inflation until Tier 5 is something the average player scoffs at.
As a result, I'm also beginning to doubt I will get the nice gun at 20. So much for spending gold to complete this event :rolleyes:
lordsagacity
06-10-2013, 03:31 PM
Another change that seems more readily confirmable is that the boss prizes depend on your level (higher stat prizes for higher level players). For example, the prize I see at level 135 is to defeat the boss 20 times to earn Madam's Main Force (3926/3728). Others at lower tiers are seeing this prize at 30, 40, or 50.
You are a hacker :) Get it before Gree changes it back.
I only got the bunny bomb for boss 20 and I'm at lv 165. :(
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 03:35 PM
You are a hacker :) Get it before Gree changes it back.
I only got the bunny bomb for boss 20 and I'm at lv 165. :(
Unfortunately, I'm guessing it's an android splash screen typo. I'd be really posted if I had to spend gold to get to level 20 thinking I'd get a 4k item only to receive some shifty 800/500 item instead.
lordsagacity
06-10-2013, 03:43 PM
Unfortunately, I'm guessing it's an android splash screen typo. I'd be really posted if I had to spend gold to get to level 20 thinking I'd get a 4k item only to receive some shifty 800/500 item instead.
What does it say in your goals list?
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 03:49 PM
What does it say in your goals list?
It also says 20. Currently 18/20.
Edit: just so people don't think I'm crazy:
http://i.imgur.com/7sDRyjG.png
Should have known it was GREE's style to get my hopes up about adding a new tier or better prizes for higher level players to fix camping.
lordsagacity
06-10-2013, 04:08 PM
It also says 20. Currently 18/20.
Edit: just so people don't think I'm crazy:
http://i.imgur.com/7sDRyjG.png
Should have known it was GREE's style to get my hopes up about adding a new tier or better prizes for higher level players to fix camping.
I mean the reward in your goals list. “Defeat Heidi Klaus 20 times to receive xxx”
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 04:14 PM
I mean the reward in your goals list. “Defeat Heidi Klaus 20 times to receive xxx”
Ah! I see it now. It says Bunny Bomb in the goal list. Nice catch.
Alex_
06-10-2013, 04:16 PM
Maybe there is different splash screen depending on what goal you are currently at. For instance I've completed the 20 goal so now its says 30 on the splash (20+30 = 50 in total). And that you have been given the wrong splash screen assuming you had reached goal 30.
Kidkiller
06-10-2013, 04:40 PM
Oooohhh god damnit! >:( ! Sorry for false hope , I just see it with lvl16 too. Aahhh damn anyway, good luck on Heidi Klauss! I feel a bit dumb actually, I should have know.
c00guy
06-10-2013, 04:41 PM
Shucks, what a crappy weapon at 20! Crates were so much easier and less XP. Looks like camper's paradise now is crates and not boss :(
candyson
06-10-2013, 04:47 PM
The boss numbers for tier 2 are off. I beat boss 12 in one hit and I am dealing just under 30k damage.
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 04:48 PM
Shucks, what a crappy weapon at 20! Crates were so much easier and less XP. Looks like camper's paradise now is crates and not boss :(
No, the 4 crate items and 1.5k final prize in crates doesn't compare to the 40 boss items and final 3k-4k final boss prize. Though sometimes the collect-10 items have a killer modifier, which you don't get from boss events.
The middle option is not double free attack any longer. My free attack was 28531 and the $ option resulted in 42904 score. A lot less than double. What gives?
candyson
06-10-2013, 06:36 PM
The middle option is not double free attack any longer. My free attack was 28531 and the $ option resulted in 42904 score. A lot less than double. What gives?
I think that a free hit does 2/3 times the damage of a cash hit.
You are thinking the wrong way, a cash hit isn't dependent on your free hit, it's the other way around.
OffensivelyNamedGuy
06-10-2013, 08:39 PM
Fun fact:
Assuming 5%/10%/85% on the drop rate for an average of 80 ATT per item, a weapon of 2900 attack for the boss 40 prize (since nobody reported it yet), and 1xp for every boss trigger, every single milestone has nearly exactly the same ATT/XP ratio!
L20 - Total Att: 2411 - Total XP: 1170 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.06
L30 - Total Att: 5215 - Total XP: 2505 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.08
L40 - Total Att: 8915 - Total XP: 4340 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.05
L50 - Total Att: 13641 - Total XP: 6675 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.04
Damn thats a lot of XP.. Collect 10 events are definitely ultimate camper event. I gott, hmm, maybe 2500 attack last collect 10 for about 100 xp. Granted I was lucky enough to hit the 10th item, but still, wayyyyy better than boss events.
Anyone ever calculate their ATT/XP on a LTQ? Syndicate battle?
Lipstick
06-10-2013, 08:52 PM
Sad to see billionaire bump his own threads and call for a sticky.
Sad day indeed.
c00guy
06-10-2013, 09:08 PM
Fun fact:
Assuming 5%/10%/85% on the drop rate for an average of 80 ATT per item, a weapon of 2900 attack for the boss 40 prize (since nobody reported it yet), and 1xp for every boss trigger, every single milestone has nearly exactly the same ATT/XP ratio!
L20 - Total Att: 2411 - Total XP: 1170 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.06
L30 - Total Att: 5215 - Total XP: 2505 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.08
L40 - Total Att: 8915 - Total XP: 4340 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.05
L50 - Total Att: 13641 - Total XP: 6675 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.04
Damn thats a lot of XP.. Collect 10 events are definitely ultimate camper event. I gott, hmm, maybe 2500 attack last collect 10 for about 100 xp. Granted I was lucky enough to hit the 10th item, but still, wayyyyy better than boss events.
Anyone ever calculate their ATT/XP on a LTQ? Syndicate battle?
Yep that's what I was referring to! Boss events may have better prizes but their ATT/XP ratio is nothing compared to crates! Crates are 25x ATT/XP whereas boss is 2x!!! Thanks ****Trickle ;)
L2uhere
06-10-2013, 09:19 PM
Awesome thanks
panty sniffer
06-10-2013, 10:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the rate of Rares and Uncommon increases the higher the boss level though i'm not sure by what percent or if this would skew the ratio in a meaningful way. Regardless, Crates are definitely the best attk/XP ratio but only doing crate events makes the game a little too boring for my taste. That's what my camper account is for :)
c00guy
06-10-2013, 10:47 PM
I'm pretty sure the rate of Rares and Uncommon increases the higher the boss level though i'm not sure by what percent or if this would skew the ratio in a meaningful way. Regardless, Crates are definitely the best attk/XP ratio but only doing crate events makes the game a little too boring for my taste. That's what my camper account is for :)
Haha, cmon sniffer, you did boss in your camper as well!! Lol ;)
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 10:47 PM
Fun fact:
Assuming 5%/10%/85% on the drop rate for an average of 80 ATT per item, a weapon of 2900 attack for the boss 40 prize (since nobody reported it yet), and 1xp for every boss trigger, every single milestone has nearly exactly the same ATT/XP ratio!
L20 - Total Att: 2411 - Total XP: 1170 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.06
L30 - Total Att: 5215 - Total XP: 2505 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.08
L40 - Total Att: 8915 - Total XP: 4340 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.05
L50 - Total Att: 13641 - Total XP: 6675 - ATT/XP Ratio: 2.04
Damn thats a lot of XP.. Collect 10 events are definitely ultimate camper event. I gott, hmm, maybe 2500 attack last collect 10 for about 100 xp. Granted I was lucky enough to hit the 10th item, but still, wayyyyy better than boss events.
Anyone ever calculate their ATT/XP on a LTQ? Syndicate battle?
Yes, because 100 30a/30d items are just as valuable as one 3000a/3000d item, right? You'll get to a point eventually (presumably) where commons no longer help you, and then your silly ATT/XP ratio as some sort of guide with implode.
I'm pretty sure the rate of Rares and Uncommon increases the higher the boss level though i'm not sure by what percent or if this would skew the ratio in a meaningful way. Regardless, Crates are definitely the best attk/XP ratio but only doing crate events makes the game a little too boring for my taste. That's what my camper account is for :)
I don't know what it is 1-40 (as it's possible it might change within that span, and I only have a few of my boss events to look at which is hardly conclusive) but I believe after level 50, the spread is something like 30R/40U/30C.
c00guy
06-10-2013, 10:55 PM
Yes, because 100 30a/30d items are just as valuable as one 3000a/3000d item, right? You'll get to a point eventually (presumably) where commons no longer help you, and then your silly ATT/XP ratio as some sort of guide with implode.
True, but that only makes it better for crate events! Boss events give out a lot of small stats commons. Crate stats start from what an uncommon boss weapon would be! Yes, the boss top prize is much better, but look at all the low stats weapons you got, which could skew the 25x ATT/XP to worse in effective ATT terms!!
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 11:05 PM
The crates only became somewhat viable for campers because they greatly increased the odds of opening a 10th case. Before that, you would have need a few hundred cases and a lot of gold to ensure you'd get the 10th. And the crate events are almost worthless without the 10th item.
You only get 4-5 items from a crate. For the last event, the 4th item, the one for 9 successful opens, was a 255/210 melee item (Bit O' Bling), which is weaker than a rare item (and I've never gotten to L40 without earning at least a few rares). I can't remember what the other items were, but I remember thinking they were practically worthless. This ATT/XP notion only makes sense in the context of being weak enough that your 500th item is negligible.
Edit: if you want to get overly technical with all this camper wet dream stuff, the obvious choice as the best camper event is the Limited Time Buildings. Items, no XP.
And if the goal is to earn stats without gaining XP, it'd be a lot simpler just purchasing a bunch of gold items.
Christurbo
06-10-2013, 11:09 PM
Is there a way of activating the 'epic boss approaching' without earning any exp??
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 11:10 PM
Is there a way of activating the 'epic boss approaching' without earning any exp??
Lose a fight. But really, is 1XP going to kill you?
candyson
06-10-2013, 11:15 PM
Why'd they make the boss event so easy this time? Only 30 bosses for the final prize. I'm already about to beat 25.
c00guy
06-10-2013, 11:17 PM
The crates only became somewhat viable for campers because they greatly increased the odds of opening a 10th case. Before that, you would have need a few hundred cases and a lot of gold to ensure you'd get the 10th. And the crate events are almost worthless without the 10th item.
You only get 4-5 items from a crate. For the last event, the 4th item, the one for 9 successful opens, was a 255/210 melee item (Bit O' Bling), which is weaker than a rare item (and I've never gotten to L40 without earning at least a few rares). I can't remember what the other items were, but I remember thinking they were practically worthless. This ATT/XP notion only makes sense in the context of being weak enough that your 500th item is negligible.
Edit: if you want to get overly technical with all this camper wet dream stuff, the obvious choice as the best camper event is the Limited Time Buildings. Items, no XP.
And if the goal is to earn stats without gaining XP, it'd be a lot simpler just purchasing a bunch of gold items.
True, LTB is the best!! Gold items, yuk :D Although I still think IMHO that crate events are better than boss in terms of effective ATT/XP, regardless of your stats
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 11:25 PM
Why'd they make the boss event so easy this time? Only 30 bosses for the final prize. I'm already about to beat 25.
You're not going to get the final prize at 30. Go to your Goal list and read it carefully. Mine says "Defeat Heidi Klaus 30 times to receive the Madam's Prestige." I believe you actually need to beat the boss 50 times to earn the final prize. So... it's harder than usual. I hope you're happy.
candyson
06-10-2013, 11:27 PM
Oh, I should have high enough attack to win either way
I thought that the final prize was called the madam's prestige from the splash screen
BigMoney
06-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Not for free at the stats posted in your sig... but not too expensive. I guess it depends what the intermediate item is at level 40, but you'll need about 35.5k true attack by the time you fight boss 50.
candyson
06-10-2013, 11:35 PM
Thanks for the info. I have all the time in the world over the next days, so if I get my attack up, I will get it.
Also, I have updated my stats.
Icecauldron
06-11-2013, 12:07 AM
Thanks for the info. I have all the time in the world over the next days, so if I get my attack up, I will get it.
Also, I have updated my stats.
Candyson- pls update on whether 33k Atk is sufficient to defeat a tier 2 boss 50 times
BigMoney
06-11-2013, 12:07 AM
Candyson- pls update on whether 33k Atk is sufficient to defeat a tier 2 boss 50 times
It's not. You need 35.5k raw attack to do so.
Icecauldron
06-11-2013, 12:10 AM
It's not. You need 35.5k raw attack to do so.
Bigmoney- thanks! that's for lvl 40 according to the existing guide, wil that be similar for lvl 50 at 35.5k ?
candyson
06-11-2013, 12:14 AM
If I can't beat this one, next one will be guaranteed stat-wise.
BigMoney
06-11-2013, 12:14 AM
Bigmoney- thanks! that's for lvl 40 according to the existing guide, wil that be similar for lvl 50 at 35.5k ?
I don't understand your question. The level 50 tier 2 boss has 460,000 HP. Since you have 13 free attacks, it will take 460,000/13 = 35,385 attack to defeat the level 50 boss for free. The level 40 boss takes 27693 attack to defeat for free.
JonHanFord
06-11-2013, 12:49 AM
I don't understand your question. The level 50 tier 2 boss has 460,000 HP. Since you have 13 free attacks, it will take 460,000/13 = 35,385 attack to defeat the level 50 boss for free. The level 40 boss takes 27693 attack to defeat for free.
how about lv 30 boss?
candyson
06-11-2013, 12:57 AM
how about lv 30 boss?
Into tier 2, 20k raw attack.
BigMoney
06-11-2013, 12:58 AM
Check the boss health HP for the level/tier you're looking at, and divide it by 13. For Tier 2 boss, level 30, that's 260,000 HP, which means you need 20k raw attack to defeat the level 30 Tier 2 boss.
Icecauldron
06-11-2013, 02:46 AM
Can anyone verify the accuracy of the boss's health so far? The last event, the health at tier 2 seems to be off unless it has already been rectified and updated.
The Billionaire
06-11-2013, 03:57 AM
Sad to see billionaire bump his own threads and call for a sticky.
Sad day indeed.
Don't know what you're seeing but it's not the same as the rest of us. Maybe turns the lights on in that dark dingey room of yours where you spend your life trolling.
The community bumps this thread every time a boss event starts because its helpful unlike you who is nothing more than that annoying dirty stain on a set of white trainers that you just can't get rid of but easily ignore because its not important.
Icecauldron
06-11-2013, 04:20 AM
Always useful for bosses!
JonHanFord
06-11-2013, 04:26 AM
all of tier is 100% accurate by its boss hp ? or is there something change?
candyson
06-11-2013, 06:55 AM
The boss numbers for tier 2 are off. I beat boss 12 in one hit and I am dealing just under 30k damage.
all of tier is 100% accurate by its boss hp ? or is there some change?
The earlier bosses on tier 2 seem to be wrong.
I have found that the numbers are accurate now. Boss 26 took 7 hits for me(29900 damage for 180000 health)
JonHanFord
06-11-2013, 07:20 AM
The earlier bosses on tier 2 seem to be wrong.
I have found that the numbers are accurate now. Boss 26 took 7 hits for me(29900 damage for 180000 health)
then? you say that lv26 boss in tier 2 is have more hp than this guide? or you say that . boss26 tier2 is perfectly have 180k hp based on this guide?
candyson
06-11-2013, 07:37 AM
Boss 26 in tier 2 has the same health.
Icecauldron
06-11-2013, 07:48 AM
Boss 26 in tier 2 has the same health.
So you are affirming that the guide for tier 2 is accurate so far?
candyson
06-11-2013, 08:05 AM
So you are affirming that the guide for tier 2 is accurate so far?
No, I am not. I will compare the numbers with my data so far up to boss 27.
The following data will show which numbers are definitely wrong.
My data for later bosses may not be the most accurate due to only have data up to number 27
All data is assuming 29k attack before boss 27, 30k on and after boss 27
According to the billionaire's spreadsheet
-I should've beaten bosses 1-7 with one hit, I beat 1-12
-I should've beaten bosses 8-13 with two hits, I beat 13-17
-I should've beaten bosses 14-19 with three hits, I beat 18-20
-I should've beaten bosses 18-22 with four hits, I beat 21-22
-I should've beaten bosses 23-24 with five hits, I beat 23-25
-I should've beaten boss 25 with six hits, I beat none
-I should've beaten bosses 26-27 with seven hits, I beat 26-27
I'm getting the same results as candyson for tier 2
candyson
06-11-2013, 09:28 AM
I also know that from my older data that tier 1 is not wrong in any noticeable way.
Protoss_General
06-11-2013, 12:55 PM
All the figures that you see in the table are estimates. Just make sure that your attack score is much higher than the calculated score and you could defeat the boss easily.
The Billionaire
06-11-2013, 02:49 PM
The data in this thread was collected well over a year ago now so Gree might well of changed it at some point.
Also make sure you are using the attack scores from the in fight screen and not your profile because boss events don't take into account your syndicate bonuses.
candyson
06-11-2013, 03:34 PM
The data in this thread was collected well over a year ago now so Gree might well of changed it at some point.
Also make sure you are using the attack scores from the in fight screen and not your profile because boss events don't take into account your syndicate bonuses.
I am using my raw attack which is about 3k less than my boosted attack
OffensivelyNamedGuy
06-11-2013, 06:56 PM
The crates only became somewhat viable for campers because they greatly increased the odds of opening a 10th case. Before that, you would have need a few hundred cases and a lot of gold to ensure you'd get the 10th. And the crate events are almost worthless without the 10th item.
You only get 4-5 items from a crate. For the last event, the 4th item, the one for 9 successful opens, was a 255/210 melee item (Bit O' Bling), which is weaker than a rare item (and I've never gotten to L40 without earning at least a few rares). I can't remember what the other items were, but I remember thinking they were practically worthless. This ATT/XP notion only makes sense in the context of being weak enough that your 500th item is negligible.
Edit: if you want to get overly technical with all this camper wet dream stuff, the obvious choice as the best camper event is the Limited Time Buildings. Items, no XP.
And if the goal is to earn stats without gaining XP, it'd be a lot simpler just purchasing a bunch of gold items.
Calm down son!
The goal is to be as strong as possible for your level, so hardly anyone can touch you, while spending minimal gold. The only people that can touch me are folks with top syndicate prizes. Those are truly the best ATT/XP ratio events (but only if you're top, which isn't the easiest at the lower levels, and without spending gold).
By the way, you do get a fair bit of XP from the LTBs. Well worth it though.
JonHanFord
06-11-2013, 07:21 PM
No, I am not. I will compare the numbers with my data so far up to boss 27.
The following data will show which numbers are definitely wrong.
My data for later bosses may not be the most accurate due to only have data up to number 27
All data is assuming 29k attack before boss 27, 30k on and after boss 27
According to the billionaire's spreadsheet
-I should've beaten bosses 1-7 with one hit, I beat 1-12
-I should've beaten bosses 8-13 with two hits, I beat 13-17
-I should've beaten bosses 14-19 with three hits, I beat 18-20
-I should've beaten bosses 18-22 with four hits, I beat 21-22
-I should've beaten bosses 23-24 with five hits, I beat 23-25
-I should've beaten boss 25 with six hits, I beat none
-I should've beaten bosses 26-27 with seven hits, I beat 26-27
so, in short .. are telling that the hp of bosses in this guide is more hp than your data? im currently in boss27 tier2
c00guy
06-11-2013, 09:15 PM
No, I am not. I will compare the numbers with my data so far up to boss 27.
The following data will show which numbers are definitely wrong.
My data for later bosses may not be the most accurate due to only have data up to number 27
All data is assuming 29k attack before boss 27, 30k on and after boss 27
According to the billionaire's spreadsheet
-I should've beaten bosses 1-7 with one hit, I beat 1-12
-I should've beaten bosses 8-13 with two hits, I beat 13-17
-I should've beaten bosses 14-19 with three hits, I beat 18-20
-I should've beaten bosses 18-22 with four hits, I beat 21-22
-I should've beaten bosses 23-24 with five hits, I beat 23-25
-I should've beaten boss 25 with six hits, I beat none
-I should've beaten bosses 26-27 with seven hits, I beat 26-27
Hope you changed the raw attack score every time you got a new boss. Otherwise, these numbers are useless.
candyson
06-11-2013, 10:05 PM
Hope you changed the raw attack score every time you got a new boss. Otherwise, these numbers are useless.
I did all calculations with the new units recieved. That's why after boss 26 it is assumed 30k attack(showed rounded down raw attack numbers)
candyson
06-11-2013, 10:06 PM
so, in short .. are telling that the hp of bosses in this guide is more hp than your data? im currently in boss27 tier2
Up to boss 25, the bosses are definitely easier to beat. After that, no difference has been seen.
Alex_
06-12-2013, 02:44 AM
How much health does the boss have at level 50 in tier 4?
BigMoney
06-12-2013, 02:49 AM
How much health does the boss have at level 50 in tier 4?
Follow up to this, can anyone confirm the boss HP for levels 41-50? Does it continue to grow at an extra half-million HP per level?
If so, Alex, then boss 50 would have 16 million HP.
Hoeba
06-12-2013, 02:19 PM
I believe that the tabel for tier one is right till lvl 40 . After that i think it stays at 110 or 115 k hp. I have 15 k raw attack and just killed boss45 in 7 hits. Level 44 boss took me 8 hits. I got a weapon so became a little stronger so thats why i could take 45th boss with one hit less.
psxnitro
06-13-2013, 10:29 PM
Just for info, I have two accounts in the high and low end of Tier 3, I didn't really pay much attention to the boss health till I beat boss 50 with one account. But this is what I observed.
Tier 3 Boss 50 went down with 13 hits with 96,030 ATK. 12th hit made the boss almost go down, since the health bar wasn't visible anymore after the 12th hit. so I estimate the Final Health to be 1,160,000 for Boss 50
Also on my oldest account, Tier 3 Boss 48, easily went down in 12 hits with a 91,800 ATK so the HP is no more than 1,100,000 for sure.
The way I look at it, it seems for Tier 3, each boss level above 40 gains 25k Health per level, then at 45 the gain jumps 30k Health per level till boss 50. Just my observation.
madfighters
06-15-2013, 04:59 AM
Very helpful
savage9r
06-15-2013, 05:56 AM
Great guide, billionaire. Thanks for taking the time to compile the data and post! ;-)
(CK) EL
06-15-2013, 06:12 AM
Follow up to this, can anyone confirm the boss HP for levels 41-50? Does it continue to grow at an extra half-million HP per level?
If so, Alex, then boss 50 would have 16 million HP.
yes... it's 500k raise per level
oh.. and lev 31 it's 6.500.000 not 6.250.000
OneHoop
06-15-2013, 09:08 AM
My data for later bosses may not be the most accurate due to only have data up to number 27
All data is assuming 29k attack before boss 27, 30k on and after boss 27
According to the billionaire's spreadsheet
-I should've beaten bosses 1-7 with one hit, I beat 1-12
-I should've beaten bosses 8-13 with two hits, I beat 13-17
-I should've beaten bosses 14-19 with three hits, I beat 18-20
-I should've beaten bosses 18-22 with four hits, I beat 21-22
-I should've beaten bosses 23-24 with five hits, I beat 23-25
-I should've beaten boss 25 with six hits, I beat none
-I should've beaten bosses 26-27 with seven hits, I beat 26-27
I also observed that tier 2 is easier for the lower bosses. I did not pay much attention once I got beyond one-hitting the boss, as I often would start a boss without full health. I can affirm however, that boss 12 is less than 32439hp and boss 14 is more than 32578hp.
R3dbull
06-15-2013, 09:28 AM
omg...whats wrong with you guys....Billinonärs guide is still up to date. I beat the Boss 50 times and always need the hits which I calculated. So please dont tell to much XXXXX when you dont noticed something properly. comments like " I think" or "maybe" confuse only one, so let it be!!!
When someone is of the decision he could it do better, we all are waiting for it. Otherwise shut up...Thanks a lot.
JonHanFord
07-04-2013, 11:27 PM
up for this thread. for the upcoming boss,event
Sweet2177
07-05-2013, 08:23 AM
Bump bump bump
Tanawat
07-05-2013, 08:45 AM
When Will the event start? Waiting the whole day already..
CCRookie
07-05-2013, 08:46 AM
When Will the event start? Waiting the whole day already..
The dates and times are always...relative.
bald zeemer
07-05-2013, 08:52 AM
And mainly relative to midday, PST.
Not accurate, certainly don't misconstrue my statement. But expecting it early is certainly the height of optimism.
Tanawat
07-05-2013, 09:39 AM
Hm, i hope it Will come out soon then.
candyson
07-05-2013, 09:58 AM
It will probably come out in about 2 hours(noon PST)
Ryan the Great8
07-05-2013, 09:36 PM
Bump to the front page and a huge thanks to Billionaire for taking the time to put this guide together.
JonHanFord
07-05-2013, 09:53 PM
yeah.. i bookmarked this, to easy to go here..
CrimeFan
07-06-2013, 04:33 AM
Thanks Bill for the guide. It's a big help.
mahi250
07-06-2013, 05:20 AM
I m in tier two and have noticednthat the boss helth for tier two is lower now than stated in this guide...i am oretty sure ..till 25 level boss...but from 25 level it matches with what stated in this guide
JonHanFord
07-06-2013, 05:28 AM
I m in tier two and have noticednthat the boss helth for tier two is lower now than stated in this guide...i am oretty sure ..till 25 level boss...but from 25 level it matches with what stated in this guide
yeah thats the old issue.. that the first bosses in tier 2 have less hp than the guide..
btw, did you beat the boss50 already? how many hp boss50 have? same in the guide?
mahi250
07-06-2013, 06:59 AM
yeah thats the old issue.. that the first bosses in tier 2 have less hp than the guide..
btw, did you beat the boss50 already? how many hp boss50 have? same in the guide?naah currently at leveln28
ImTheBaroness
07-06-2013, 08:19 AM
Does the billionaire have a guide on molesting drunk chicks? I heard he's a real pro.
No Name Specified
07-06-2013, 08:20 AM
Does the billionaire have a guide on molesting drunk chicks? I heard he's a real pro.
LMFAO!! Been waiting for you to post something on this topic! Good one!
RedEyePad
07-07-2013, 11:28 PM
I'm sure this has been brought up but I can't find any mention of it - what do you do in the case that you've engaged the boss in the fight screen and press the button to attack but can't actually land an attack? ...Like your player goes through the motions, and the -$4000 pops up (for a cash attack) but no cash is actually deducted and no damage is dealt or received.
It seems like a network connection problem, but can't be that specifically because if you click the Gold button at the top of the screen you can still load the free gold offers which requires a network connection. Being stuck like that at 1% health I've tried all manner of clicking through the buy/earn gold screens, cycling the device in and out of sleep, waiting a few minutes, pretty much everything I could do without Retreating or closing the app, at which point you can't re-enter the fight if your health is below 25%, blowing the 13-free-hit strategy for that round. The worst part is that when going for your 2 hits with 26% health, sometimes it will get the first attack off just fine, then make you keep whiffing with 1% health just moments later. So far in these cases I've had to just retreat and give up that round: let the boss escape and recover to 100% and try again from the top.
Is there a known way to get some traction on your attacks when that happens?
Rude_Dude
07-08-2013, 09:38 AM
Great work Bill!
candyson
07-08-2013, 10:12 AM
yeah thats the old issue.. that the first bosses in tier 2 have less hp than the guide..
btw, did you beat the boss50 already? how many hp boss50 have? same in the guide?
I am just about to battle boss 50. I will let you know if anything is changed.
Edit: boss 50 still has 460k health.
JonHanFord
07-08-2013, 05:47 PM
I am just about to battle boss 50. I will let you know if anything is changed.
Edit: boss 50 still has 460k health.
thanks ! im now at lv 46 boss with 9 hits.. im pretty sure now. i can beat the lv50 boss with 9 to 10 hits
candyson
07-08-2013, 06:00 PM
thanks ! im now at lv 46 boss with 9 hits.. im pretty sure now. i can beat the lv50 boss with 9 to 10 hits
No problem. if you have any other questions, just ask me.
Deadwater
07-12-2013, 02:04 PM
I can't access the spreadsheet right now, can anyone tell me how much gold would be needed in total to finish a boss with a 300k base attack tier 5...this info isn't for my account
the_dude
07-12-2013, 05:52 PM
Thanks again Billionaire. This helped alot on my camper who just jumped to tier 2.
bald zeemer
07-12-2013, 05:55 PM
I can't access the spreadsheet right now, can anyone tell me how much gold would be needed in total to finish a boss with a 300k base attack tier 5...this info isn't for my account
A couple of vaults at least. The normal spreadsheet will be off because you can't use healthpacks to their full benefit when you need so many hits. 54 hits for boss 50, off the top of my head
I can't access the spreadsheet right now, can anyone tell me how much gold would be needed in total to finish a boss with a 300k base attack tier 5...this info isn't for my account
You will be able to beat 26 for free. Boss 50 will cost 140 gold (theoretically) using the 3 hits per healthpack. Total gold spend on health packs would be 1,750
If you played perfectly, you could be able to get 14 healthpacks in for 3 hits each on the 50'th boss. In reality it probably will be difficult.
nickdpro99
07-13-2013, 05:53 AM
I think this is the most useful thing on this forum.
Hitster
07-13-2013, 06:11 AM
Great post! comes in handy so you know when to upgrade your weapons to improve your chances of beating the boss. especially when camping
Gingeasian
08-07-2013, 12:36 PM
back to the top for boss event
hawkeye_9
08-07-2013, 12:40 PM
back to the top for boss event
Thank you for the bump...real props goes to the Billionaire - thanks!
brandocommando
08-07-2013, 12:46 PM
You will be able to beat 26 for free. Boss 50 will cost 140 gold (theoretically) using the 3 hits per healthpack. Total gold spend on health packs would be 1,750
If you played perfectly, you could be able to get 14 healthpacks in for 3 hits each on the 50'th boss. In reality it probably will be difficult.
Only problem like zeemer said is you wouldn't have enough time to use each health pack for the 3 hits. Also Im not sure if the event would run long enough for you to wait for full health before triggering a new boss when so many hits are needed in the 5th tier.
out of names
08-07-2013, 12:52 PM
what happen to bill, he hasnt been talking on the forums
The Billionaire
08-07-2013, 01:24 PM
what happen to bill, he hasnt been talking on the forums
I'm here, lurking, listening.
Just been very busy with real life lately and spend a lot of my time on KakaoTalk chatting with my syndicate/faction friends.
187omni
08-07-2013, 08:06 PM
bump - thanks for all the help billionaire !!
opeth211
08-08-2013, 05:18 AM
thank you for this
Just to fine-tune some of the estimates. I just best Boss 51, on tier 1 in 3 hits w/ 51,229/hit...so just over 153k to defest the boss...the sheet list 160k to beat boss 50
GravyTrain
08-09-2013, 01:32 PM
Not sure why this isn't a sticky yet. Thanks for the help making this!
CCK-buttsy
08-10-2013, 06:13 AM
nice guide, thanks billionaire
GravyTrain
08-28-2013, 08:44 AM
Great guide! Thanks for the effort in this!
CCK-buttsy
08-28-2013, 01:04 PM
Great guide! Thanks for the effort in this!Great guide
tatersauce
08-28-2013, 01:23 PM
Thanks a ton! Excellent guide...
D-visible
08-31-2013, 02:25 PM
Thanks for the guide
Beamer 420
08-31-2013, 08:21 PM
Thanks billionaire, nice post very helpful!
Mil Mascaras
09-02-2013, 12:47 PM
Hey Millionaire, left you a more detailed p.m. about this, but in case you don't get to it, herein is briefly:
I beat 50th boss at tier 3 with what I calculate as total of 1,203,000 raw attack points total. That's less than the 1,280,000 in the chart. Did gree alter the minimums? What do u think?
erickd271
09-02-2013, 12:52 PM
Thanks to you Billionaire i have defeated the last 3 bosses all the way to 50 with about 6-7 cash hits!
im now lvl 39 with 95k/94k stats!
This didn't work for me. I wonder if there is a typo?
i hit the boss 3 (three) times. then waited a little over 1 (one) minute, and then hit him again 2 (two) times.
i died :(
Dipstik
09-02-2013, 01:30 PM
This didn't work for me. I wonder if there is a typo?
i hit the boss 3 (three) times. then waited a little over 1 (one) minute, and then hit him again 2 (two) times.
i died :(
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Mil Mascaras
09-02-2013, 01:31 PM
This didn't work for me. I wonder if there is a typo?
i hit the boss 3 (three) times. then waited a little over 1 (one) minute, and then hit him again 2 (two) times.
i died :(
That's normal. You "die" after the 5 free hits and revive 26 minutes later to hit him 2 more times. And again 3 more times 26 minute intervals
That's normal. You "die" after the 5 free hits and revive 26 minutes later to hit him 2 more times. And again 3 more times 26 minute intervals
oh!! i didn't know that. noone said that. So after each of those 26 minutes you die? or is it just after the first 5 hits?
Mil Mascaras
09-02-2013, 01:48 PM
oh!! i didn't know that. noone said that. So after each of those 26 minutes you die? or is it just after the first 5 hits?
Correct, You die after each two-hit combo, and revive 25 minutes later, but wait 26 minutes, not 25 minutes, because the extra minute adds a second hit to the one hit that revives after the 25 minute wait. So it's 5 hits to start, then 4 times 2 hits for total 13 free hits. Then if u need to spendbgold to finish boss off, you wait a minute after 13th hit and only then buy a regen for 10 gold. Waiting the extra minute gets you 3 added hits instead of 2.
Correct, You die after each two-hit combo, and revive 25 minutes later, but wait 26 minutes, not 25 minutes, because the extra minute adds a second hit to the one hit that revives after the 25 minute wait. So it's 5 hits to start, then 4 times 2 hits for total 13 free hits. Then if u need to spendbgold to finish boss off, you wait a minute after 13th hit and only then buy a regen for 10 gold. Waiting the extra minute gets you 3 added hits instead of 2.
Ok, thanks :)
CohibAA
09-18-2013, 07:29 PM
Well... this thread had a good run.
jaggededge
09-18-2013, 07:32 PM
R.I.P. guide... was a good long run for you.
Dkaell
09-18-2013, 07:35 PM
R.I.P. guide... was a good long run for you.
^^ :( some things are too good to last
wrestler84
09-18-2013, 07:38 PM
Well it was bound to happen but everybody say goodbye to the easy bosses
No!! This still works. i tried the dying thing and i'm getting 5 hits, and 2 hits after 26 min.
crazyman1
09-18-2013, 07:59 PM
there talking about the health on bosses insanely high
Just the boss health has changed. This thread is not dead we just need to up date it.
Just as a basis. Level 9 tier 3 is over now 200,000 health.
Iron Mike
09-18-2013, 08:35 PM
Just the boss health has changed. This thread is not dead we just need to up date it.
I wouldn't delete anything just yet. This syndicate boss event might be the every-other-boss event. I have my fingers crossed. Otherwise, I'm tiring of this game quickly.
The Squeeze
11-29-2013, 12:50 AM
I wouldn't delete anything just yet. This syndicate boss event might be the every-other-boss event. I have my fingers crossed. Otherwise, I'm tiring of this game quickly.
I too am tiring of this game VERY quickly, especially with having so many events going on at 1 time recently!!! Gree(d) has taken a game, something that is supposed to be fun, and they turned it in to a FULL time JOB! Rather a non-job if you will, because jobs actually pay you money. :mad:
People have jobs, lives, families, etc. and the insane amount of time this game now requires to keep up your stats and not fall behind, is ludicrous!! Ive already walked away from all the other Gree(d) games I played, and am SERIOUSLY considering walking away from this one as well. When a GAME begins to interfere with real life and real work, it doesn't seem worth it to continue "playing"
THe CaNNiBaL
11-29-2013, 08:36 AM
Thanx a lot Bill.
This need to be in the" best of best" guide.
Im Jahova
11-29-2013, 08:45 AM
I too am tiring of this game VERY quickly, especially with having so many events going on at 1 time recently!!! Gree(d) has taken a game, something that is supposed to be fun, and they turned it in to a FULL time JOB! Rather a non-job if you will, because jobs actually pay you money. :mad:
People have jobs, lives, families, etc. and the insane amount of time this game now requires to keep up your stats and not fall behind, is ludicrous!! Ive already walked away from all the other Gree(d) games I played, and am SERIOUSLY considering walking away from this one as well. When a GAME begins to interfere with real life and real work, it doesn't seem worth it to continue "playing"
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