Tier 5 Boss

[teo]

Since the Billionaire Boss thread is gone, I am posting this question in a new thread.

Is there any of the top level people who are participating in boss events? If so, how far do you get before needing gold? Do you complete with gold?

I am just wondering if the Tier 5 is out of reach for anybody and if boss events is just not of interest once you get up in the upper reaches. It looked like the guide never got updated for tier 5 - perhaps for a reason.

Thanks all!

[PawnXIIX]

I usually make it to 16 or 17 bosses with all 13 attacks before I have to give up.

[bald zeemer]

The old thread had limited info on tier 5 bosses anyway. You need 539k atk to take down boss 32 without gold. I don't think it's possible to take down 40 without gold (estimation based on the progression would lead me to think it'd be around the 1.5mil atk mark, which I'm pretty sure can't be achieved.

[TRAZ]

Not out of reach, you just have to use gold to get the item. You have to decide at the beginning of the event if you're willing to spend gold. If not, use your free attacks and then call it a day.

[teo]

Not out of reach, you just have to use gold to get the item. You have to decide at the beginning of the event if you're willing to spend gold. If not, use your free attacks and then call it a day.

So using you as an example of a high stat player TRAZ, how far do you get without gold and then when you choose to complete how much gold does that cost you?

Are these events of interest for your level?

My reason for asking is to develop a long term idea of where my game is going - this of course can be negated at any point with big changes to CC; I just still like to have a current plan :)

[Butt Futter]

My attack is around 60k and i get around 20/21 attacks

[teo]

The old thread had limited info on tier 5 bosses anyway. You need 539k atk to take down boss 32 without gold. I don't think it's possible to take down 40 without gold (estimation based on the progression would lead me to think it'd be around the 1.5mil atk mark, which I'm pretty sure can't be achieved.

Is that your personal experience to beat 32 with 539k? Really high stat!! Impressive!

If this is your experience, did you complete using gold; how much?

[Biggz]

I'm also interested to know about tier 5 boss, I'm at tier 4 now...

[Icecauldron]

539k for a free player or with gold?

How many allies? I have problem even reaching 30k.

[bald zeemer]

Is that your personal experience to beat 32 with 539k? Really high stat!! Impressive!

If this is your experience, did you complete using gold; how much?

I wish! That was the highest level on the old thread (I kept the data in my spreadsheets). I can only hit 19 w/o gold, 21 with a level up. I'll probably use gold to get to 24-25, after that it's not worth it.

I'm aiming to get past 500k stats around August, so I'll get back to you then on how I go. ;)

[bald zeemer]

Is that your personal experience to beat 32 with 539k? Really high stat!! Impressive!

If this is your experience, did you complete using gold; how much?

I wish! That was the highest level on the old thread (I kept the data in my spreadsheets). I can only hit 19 w/o gold, 21 with a level up. I'll probably use gold to get to 24-25, after that it's not worth it.

I'm aiming to get past 500k stats around August, so I'll get back to you then on how I go. ;)

[Bam Bam]

I can get to 36 without gold. With modifers my attack is a little over a million, but only 680,000 against the boss. It takes 11,000,000 points to defeat the 40th boss in case you want to do the math. I think I could beat all the bosses with under 50 gold, but spend a bit more due to impatience.

[bald zeemer]

Cheers bam bam, very handy info.
That means you need to have 846154 atk to take down final boss without gold. Or 611112 if you're under lvl 200 and level up at the right time.

I now have an atk goal that means something, rather than being some random round number.

[bald zeemer]

539k for a free player or with gold?

How many allies? I have problem even reaching 30k.

There is no way a free player would be able to get 539k atk in the short term. You'd have to be winning event prizes for years and years (and you'd be limited to event prizes that free players can win - so mainly open-10s).

Without event prizes, the best atk stats a free player could get is 179k. So you'd need 300+event prizes to get there.

[The Billionaire]

It's back!

I've resurrected the thread and saved a copy this time so it's here to stay!

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?47322-The-Billionaires-Guide-to-Boss-Events

[Bam Bam]

It's back!

I've resurrected the thread and saved a copy this time so it's here to stay!

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?47322-The-Billionaires-Guide-to-Boss-Events

Thank you Sir! I couldn't begin to guess how much gold you've saved people with your advice. Awesome work!

[cooch]

It's back!

I've resurrected the thread and saved a copy this time so it's here to stay!

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?47322-The-Billionaires-Guide-to-Boss-Events

Welcome back!

[teo]

Ok, with the information given I can answer my own question with regards to how much gold will it cost for a somewhat high stat Tier 5.

I picked beating the boss to level 24; cracking 25 will take the first 10 gold.

Using the updated Tier 5 numbers I calculated the 40'th boss to require 49 hits with an atk of 229,000 (I think TRAZ atk in signature line is 229K thats why I used this example). For simplicity I assumed that we would start out at working at level 25 at this 229 figure. I made the assumption that the atk would not increase enough through the progression to level 40 to have a meaningful impact on how many hits each successive boss would require. At lov Tier level the gained items make a difference. At Tier 5 I don't think the gained items per level will make a difference.

So assuming that first boss that will require gold will be 25 (10 gold), 40'th boss will require a theoretical gold cost of 120. I am saying theoretical since it is not realistic/possible to get optimal use of healthpacks and getting 49 hits in.

The total gold used progressing through level 25-40 will be a minimum theoretical amount of 1020 gold. Again, assumptions are there are not any meaningful stat gain in comparison to points needed. Also the assumption is 'perfect' use of healthpacks. The realistic figure is a bit above due to 'double timing' it with Healthpacks and mega attack if you really went this far from level 25.

Out of interest I compared it to how much gold it would cost going level 25-40 using first gold at lvl25 for the two previous tiers: Again same assumption on no meaningful stat gain while going through the levels.

Tier 4: Final boss needs 28 hits/50 gold. Atk of 55,000 when starting on level 25. Total theoretical gold to complete is 480. This one is realistic to complete with the calculated gold.

Tier 3: Final boss needs 36 hits/80 gold. Atk of 25,000 when starting on level 25. Total theoretical gold to complete is 720. This one is realistic to complete with the calculated gold. The assumption of no meaningful stat gain is a little shaky here.

Anyway, I don't know if this is of much interest, I was just curious as to what it takes to keep getting final boss prices

[bald zeemer]

To add to that, if you have first gold use at boss 20 in tier 5 it has a theoretical gold usage of 3810. And the last 9 bosses cannot make optimal use of health packs.

The tipping point for a tier-5 boss in terms of health pack usage is somewhere around the 260k mark.

[NTM]

i make 20 time and after u can't with out gold and to hard and to much gold.. thta what i call : Event Boss Arnaque

arnaque : scam

[NTM]

It's back!

I've resurrected the thread and saved a copy this time so it's here to stay!

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?47322-The-Billionaires-Guide-to-Boss-Events

thanks man : Hope the staff don't delete again.. i know they lost money $ € that maybe why thi sthread are delete 1st time..

[TenderPlacebo]

I think its ridiculous that the tiers move in intervals of 25 till you hit 100 and it ends, kind of BS.
It's so easy for campers in lower tiers to achieve the final prize, they have to spend some gold to do it, but regardless it's substantially easier to obtain it.
Don't get me wrong free items rock, but I'd like to see a bit of balance with tiers, not this cliff at 100; even MW has a tier 101-150. At least make final prize weaker for each tier, like they do with box events. It would cost me 1000's of gold to beat boss 40 with 150k attack and I get the same prize as someone who can do it for free.
I guess I'm just upset because theres almost no way for me to get a final prize on boss, while its within reach for most players under 100.

[NTM]

yup... thaty why i don't spend 10 gold on this type of event... i can make 20 times but after u need gold.. and that to much...

anyway all is make for spend real money.. and not 15$... not cool..

[Ben Weston]

lvl 200 with 45-50k att before syndicate bonuses, 62k after bonuses and get to high teens/early 20's without gold, gold is a waste on these events at high levels unless you have crazy stats like bam, for average players its a complete no brainer to NOT spend gold on these event. on the open 10/20 events gold can be well worth it. I spent around 300 gold on the last open 20 event and ended up 156th so got myself the big gun. nice.

[bald zeemer]

Syndicate bonuses don't count in boss events.

[Da_Boss]

My camper account will have 2 grand prizes before moving to tier 2. No gold spent. Like a boss...