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Stav
02-26-2013, 12:15 AM
Hi
A little break from syndicate's.
I thought the thread that was started ages ago asking what level 10 buildings everyone has was cool for economy geeks.
So rather than necro a thread I thought I would start a new one so here goes.

My level 10's are

Ice cream shop x 2
Pizza Parlor x 2
Italian restaurant x 2
Souvenir store x 2
Loft x 2
Church x 2

Bodyguard agencies x 2

Not sure what my next ones will be. Probably Movie theatres but they have been level 8 for over a year.

dudeman
02-26-2013, 01:06 AM
I was going to start this thread (again) after I finished another set of level tens. Clearly it's taking just a bit too long. Oh well!

Here's the old "Level 10" thread if anyone is interested: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37062-Level-10

I'm thinking my next level 10s might be my Rock Cafes. Or Upscale Clubs, but I don't really want to spend $900,000,000 and four weeks on those at this point. I could bank a few billion for my syndicate if I did that though. But almost a billion dollars on Upscale Club upgrades... Yeah, I don't know about that.

Stav
02-26-2013, 01:49 AM
Happy either to go back to your thread or carry on with the new one here.
Rocks Cafe's to level 10 would be a good payout.
Yep last 2 levels on most buildings do take some time.

dudeman
02-26-2013, 02:07 AM
I'd say go with this thread from now on. Who started it isn't the point, but the old one would just look like a necro.

Interesting to go back and see the old thread though, that's why I linked it.

Do those MTs. They're long overdue and you'll never have to think about them again. That's what motivated me to do them.

Leezygeezer
02-26-2013, 02:11 AM
No level 10s yet, got one loft to level 9, might up it to 10 while i save for a NC upgrade

MrSpidey
02-26-2013, 02:30 AM
I got those Frosty Hideout's to lvl10 (3x). I know they are easy to do, and that's exactly the reason why I did it! :D

CitrineMondeoRSi
02-26-2013, 03:02 AM
Many lower output level 10s in my hood, I just can't bring myself to sell them after investing so much time on the upgrades! 2 of each, from memory...

Pawn shop
Basketball court
House
Gun shop
Warehouse
Movie Theatre
Haunted Mansion x1
T shirt stand

Slowly working on Wholesales and Dominicans to free up as much in game cash as poss for the syndicate - they're currently at 7s and 8s... Then it's time to get both lofts from 8>10 :)

Big O
02-26-2013, 03:50 AM
I have all 7 of the holiday buildings to lvl 10. I also a lvl 3 account with 2 of each to lvl 10...

Basketball Court
Ice Cream Shop
Pawn Shop
Tattoo Parlor

AppleMacGuy
02-26-2013, 04:33 AM
I currently have:

2x Night Club @ L10
2x Gobble Gobble Buffet @ L10

(N8iV) RayJ
02-26-2013, 06:46 AM
Laundry mat x2
Sports bar
Arcade
House
Fish store
Pawn shop x2
Meat factory
Movie theatre
Basketball court
Bodyguard agency
Abondened building
Safe house
Gaurd tower x3

bald zeemer
02-26-2013, 06:49 AM
Bodyguard agency
Abondened building
Safe house
Gaurd tower x3
Why would you make the same mistake 6 times?

Atlanta
02-26-2013, 06:49 AM
I've cream shop
Laundry x 2
Frosty x 2

(N8iV) RayJ
02-26-2013, 07:13 AM
Why would you make the same mistake 6 times?

And what mistake would that be?

AppleMacGuy
02-26-2013, 07:25 AM
And what mistake would that be?

He means that upgrading any defence building to level 10 is a pointless exercise and you've repeated it 6 times.

TRAZ
02-26-2013, 07:59 AM
Got rid of all my lower level 10 buildings.

Next one will be a level 10 NC

APBT
02-26-2013, 08:12 AM
I have 3 Frosty Hideouts at lvl 10. Nothing else really over lvl 6 but that will change as the long upgrades will help with the savings for NC's.


Thanks for the add AMG, every little bit helps me get closer to 300.

Ken1378
02-26-2013, 09:18 AM
I can't bring myself to sell the lower tier Level 10 buildings either

I have:
2x L10 Basketball Courts
2x L10 Pizza Parlors
2x L10 Souvenir Shops
2x L10 Tattoo Parlor
2x L10 Houses

But except for the Basketball Courts the $/hr/square isn't awful on these buildings.

I also have 2x L9 Movie Theatres and 2x L9 Italian Restaurants. They will probably both be L10s soon while I save for the next couple Nightclub upgrades.

Phil C
02-26-2013, 09:21 AM
2 x laundromat
2 x house
1 x sports bar - because jobs told me to lol!
1 x warehouse

I know these dont pose any great iph increase but we spent the time upgrading them! I know so many people who said they wished they had kept their "downtown" buildings - for nostalgic value if nothing else!

Stav
02-26-2013, 09:32 AM
I currently have:

2x Night Club @ L10
2x Gobble Gobble Buffet @ L10

Level 10 Night clubs - congratulations on that, that is some achievement.
My level 4 nightclubs now look shameful

daystardawg
02-26-2013, 04:05 PM
1 each basketball court, sports bar, laundrymat and Haunted Mansion.
2 each Gobble Gobble

i have 1 frosty at level 9. it will be upgraded tonight to level 10.

TriBeCa99
02-26-2013, 04:13 PM
2x Ice Cream Shops.

But that's just because I only started playing December.

I'm fascinated by the economy in this game and have put a lot of thought into it--recently I calculated the most profitable upgrade level over a 180-day period under a semi-realistic collection schedule for all money buildings and cheap gold buildings. Turns out if you're interested in maximizing 180-day profit, relatively few buildings should go to level 10. Basically just the Type A buildings, but not Lofts (peak profit is at level 8) and Nightclubs (peak at level 6).

Of course if you want to maximize profits over a longer time frame, those numbers will go up... but maximizing profit over an infinite time frame (i.e. maximizing IPH) is, I think, a huge mistake.

Holicaholic
02-26-2013, 04:22 PM
x2

Laundromat
House
Italian Restaurant
Loft

Maybe movie theater next, just to be able to donate more to my syndicate

sister morphine
02-26-2013, 04:36 PM
Haunted Mansion
Gobble Gobble Buffet
Frosty Hideout
Ice cream shop x2

4Nik8R
02-26-2013, 05:35 PM
I can't justify leveling a pizza shop to level 10. For one it takes to long and second the returns just don't show on paper.
2x bodyguard agencies (useless!)
2x ice cream
2x b-ball courts
1x warehouse

Lofts are soon to come...

RedEyePad
02-27-2013, 03:27 AM
2x Laundromat
2x Pawn Shop
2x Gun Shop
2x Deli
2x Tattoo Parlor
2x Warehouse
2x Pizza Parlor
2x Basketball Court
2x House
2x Barbershop
2x T-shirt Stand
2x Ice Cream Shop
2x Sports Bar
2x Bodyguard Agency

MT's have been stuck at L7, going to invest the 357 hrs each to finish them off.

I think Dominicans are among the best tradeoff between cost, time, and benefits - if you're obsessive about taking something to Level 10 the Dominicans are worth a look.

RedEyePad
02-27-2013, 03:35 AM
Here are the upgrade times to Level 10 from Level 1
(not including the initial building time):





Pizza Parlor
170.11


Laundromat
170.11


Basketball Court
170.17


Gobble Gobble Buffet
206.08


Frosty Hideout
206.08


Pawn Shop
234.17


Gas Station
234.33


Techno Club
234.33


Deli
234.79


Ice Cream Shop
234.79


Gun Shop
236.00


Mansion
236.00


Souvenir Store
236.00


Tattoo Parlor
241.38


House
308.99


Empire Theater
308.99


Barbershop
308.99


T-shirt Stand
309.55


Blues Club
317.17


Warehouse
338.05


Jazz Club
338.05


Carousel
338.05


Arcade
370.44


Cowboy Casino
370.44


Italian Restaurant
370.44


Clothing Store
393.63


Diner
393.63


Sushi Bar
393.63


Bagel Shop
393.63


Electronics Store
415.49


Modern Art Museum
415.49


History Museum
415.49


Chicken and Waffles
415.49


Fish Store
456.52


Sports Bar
456.52


Seafood Restaurant
456.52


Gingerbread House
504.84


Movie Theater
504.84


Chinese Restaurant
504.84


Shoe Store
504.84


Smoke Shop
504.84


Haunted Mansion
504.92


Dominican Restaurant
512.84


Wholesale Warehouse
512.84


Meat Factory
586.84


Anchor Imports
586.84


Fancy Restaurant
586.84


Gaming Parlor
586.84


Beachside Inn
618.15


Collection Agency
633.39


Art House Cinema
633.39


Zeus Theater
633.39


Flower Shop
633.39


Church
633.39


Magic Playhouse
633.39


Comedy Club
662.43


Internet Company
662.43


Underboss' House
662.43


Wedding Chapel
662.43


Russian Restaurant
662.43


Brownstone
747.66


Upscale Club
747.66


Adult Movie Theater
747.66


Modern Loft
747.66


Rock Cafe
747.66


French Restaurant
747.66


Loft
858.12


Beach Nightclub
858.12


Condos
858.12


Pirate Tavern
858.12


Credit Agency
858.12


Hotel
858.12


Gentleman's Club
858.12


Crematorium
1034.56


Nightclub
1034.56


Office Building
1034.56


Palm Hotel
1034.56


Casino
1034.56

Bala82
02-27-2013, 04:00 AM
Turns out if you're interested in maximizing 180-day profit, relatively few buildings should go to level 10. Basically just the Type A buildings, but not Lofts (peak profit is at level 8) and Nightclubs (peak at level 6).

Nightclub upgrade are ridiculous :(

AppleMacGuy
02-27-2013, 05:37 AM
Level 10 Night clubs - congratulations on that, that is some achievement.
My level 4 nightclubs now look shameful

Thanks...I finished mine 2-3 months ago, all done without gold to speed up the upgrade times. There are a handful of players now with x2 NCs.

AppleMacGuy
02-27-2013, 05:44 AM
Nightclub upgrade are ridiculous :(

That may be the case but the nightclubs are thus far untouchable as their IPH increase is second to none. Anyone who doesn't think NCs are worth building or upgrading to L10 should think again especially after the new cash weapons were released today. All the previous talk of in-game cash being useless is not so true anymore (and before anyone else mentions it, I myself have said as much previously, although I never assumed it would always be the case). Also with the syndicate bonuses needing billions to purchase, the strong IPH players (see Billionaire's thread) can puff up their chests ;)

I expect we'll see some new cash buildings sometime soon, if the changes in MW are used a reference point.

And all those idiots with nothing but defence buildings and no IPH are an even bigger laughing stock now.

PS I expect to be robbing a lot more NCs in the future :p

Plumbernick9
02-27-2013, 05:33 PM
Hi
A little break from syndicate's.
I thought the thread that was started ages ago asking what level 10 buildings everyone has was cool for economy geeks.
So rather than necro a thread I thought I would start a new one so here goes.

My level 10's are

Ice cream shop x 2
Pizza Parlor x 2
Italian restaurant x 2
Souvenir store x 2
Loft x 2
Church x 2

Bodyguard agencies x 2

Not sure what my next ones will be. Probably Movie theatres but they have been level 8 for over a year.
Good job on taking the Lofts and Church's to 10. Those take FOREVER.

DvD
02-27-2013, 07:31 PM
3x Frosty Hideouts

not very impressive but, well, I was in a hurry and um, well. Yeah.

DvD
02-27-2013, 07:35 PM
AMG heh. Crystal balls are scarce, eh?

corbaman
02-27-2013, 07:57 PM
Level 10s are almost never worthwhile, except maybe for Laundromat. It takes on the order of years for ROI of most buildings even assuming perfect collection.

dudeman
02-27-2013, 08:41 PM
Level 10s are almost never worthwhile, except maybe for Laundromat. It takes on the order of years for ROI of most buildings even assuming perfect collection.

ROI.... Lol!!

Forget that nonsense! :p

AppleMacGuy
02-28-2013, 01:18 AM
AMG heh. Crystal balls are scarce, eh?

I think what they reveal is to be treated with care...

Ken1378
02-28-2013, 10:03 AM
corbaman, the ROI for a Level 10 Nightclub is actually somewhat reasonable if you have a couple bonuses. The standard ROI would be about 495 days (assuming you collected 2.5 times per day and didn't have any bonueses). So if your upgrades cost 30% less and you have the 10% Goodfella bonus, plus the +25% income from your syndicate, the ROI drops to well under a year. And that doesn't even take into account people that can actually collect 4 times a day or even 3 times a day because their defense is so high.

Similar situation for Lofts and Movie Theatres (about 205 and 140 days, respectively, without bonuses)

Babytway
02-28-2013, 03:11 PM
last level 10 i did was my wedding chapel and now well into my rockcafe going to lvl 10 almost at lvl 8 right now though

Capt Planet
02-28-2013, 05:17 PM
I expect we'll see some new cash buildings sometime soon, if the changes in MW are used a reference point.

And all those idiots with nothing but defence buildings and no IPH are an even bigger laughing stock now.

PS I expect to be robbing a lot more NCs in the future :p

I kinda wish there was a "collect all" feature for the money buildings. I'm getting tired of clicking on all these building for the cash especially of that annoying "you've been robbed sign"

Cricket
02-28-2013, 09:43 PM
Capt planet +1000000 but probably not going to happen... :/

D3V
03-04-2013, 01:04 PM
I've actually got quite a few lvl10 buildings. Mainly because I've had nothing better to do though.

Italian Restaurants
Ice Cream Shops
Laundromats
Sushi Bars
TShirt Stands
Basketball Courts
Houses

Working on Movie Theaters now.

gcfreem
03-04-2013, 01:42 PM
Ice Cream Shop is my only one. Italian Restaurant will get there while I'm saving for NC upgrades. After that, I won't get another one for a long time. Except for a few good buildings, L10 upgrades usually don't make sense (nor do L9, L8 or L7, or even L6).

TheBatman
03-05-2013, 04:27 AM
in the process of pushing my frosties from 9 to 10

Cobra Shuttle
03-05-2013, 05:22 PM
1x Laundromat (deleted)
2x Gobble Gobble
3x Frosty Hideout
1x Sports Bar
1x Haunted Mansion

Next one will be Nightclubs if they don't release another cheap upgrade gold building in the meantime. Only half way there right now.

(N8iV) RayJ
03-06-2013, 03:40 AM
1x Laundromat (deleted)
2x Gobble Gobble
3x Frosty Hideout
1x Sports Bar
1x Haunted Mansion

Next one will be Nightclubs if they don't release another cheap upgrade gold building in the meantime. Only half way there right now.

Time to go rob your gobble buildings lol

Droop1972
03-06-2013, 06:35 AM
At level 154, I have

Pawn shop x 2
Gun Shop x 2
House x 2
T shirt stand x 2
Laundromat x 1
Warehouse x 1

I got rid of most of the other "early" buildings. I only kept the ones (with my one warehouse as the exception) that don't take up much space.

JacksonvilleKringle
03-06-2013, 06:39 AM
My only level 10 is my frosty hideout... Go figure

My2cents
03-06-2013, 09:28 AM
3 Frosties
2 Haunted House
2 Laundromat
2 Italian Restaurant.
2 Ice Cream Shop.
2 Arcade.
2 T-shirt Stand
2 House
2 Basketball

Droop1972
04-22-2013, 06:37 PM
I like this thread so I necro'd it. Saw AppleMacGuY post that he has two level 10 nightclubs....

I am proud to announce that I now have the following level 10's at lvl 180 (zero gold, zero camping).....



2 x Laundromats
2 x gun shops
2 x t shirt stands
2 x pawn shops
2 x house
1 x warehouse
1 x fish store
meat store is currently upgrading.....

Influence808
04-24-2013, 01:28 AM
2x Laundromats
2x Ice Cream Shops
2x Italian Restaurants
2x Movie Theaters
1x Sports Bar (For goal)
5x Bodyguard Agency (I know :rolleyes:)

Destroyer#1
04-24-2013, 08:17 AM
2x house
2x t-shirtstand
1x laundromat
1x warehouse
1x gobble gobble buffet
I wish 1x nightclub:cool:

PSUMike
04-24-2013, 08:24 AM
Could someone explain to my why the holiday buildings are "easy" to upgrade? I never bought them on either of my accounts but I always see a ****load of lvl 10s when I am attacking or robbing.

CM Recruitment
04-24-2013, 09:12 AM
Could someone explain to my why the holiday buildings are "easy" to upgrade? I never bought them on either of my accounts but I always see a ****load of lvl 10s when I am attacking or robbing.

They're "easy" because they are relatively Cheap and Fast to upgrade in relation to their iph gained.

Holicaholic
04-24-2013, 12:32 PM
Haunted Mansion was free to upgrade to level 10

dudeman
04-24-2013, 01:03 PM
2x Movie Theatre
2x Loft
2x Rock Café

:cool:

Babytway
04-24-2013, 02:33 PM
2x movie theatre
2x pawn shops
2x houses
2x deli
1x gas station
1x brownstone
1x french rest
1x rock
1x wedding chapel
2x ice cream
1x history museum
1x dominican
1x haunted mansion
1x sports bar
maybe something else cant remember
2x gun shops

THE JACK
04-24-2013, 05:51 PM
1 Ice Cream Shop
1 Tattoo Parlor
1 Gun Shop
1 Sports Bar

I focused on amassing lots of level 5/6 buildings.

Steve0
04-24-2013, 06:50 PM
2 Loft
2 Movie Theater
2 pawn shops
2 Ice cream
2 Laundromat
2 Italian restaurants
1 house
1 Haunted Mansion