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Ty1on
02-26-2013, 01:04 AM
Gree has started banning subnets which is causing numerous unbanned players to not access the forums.. I've run some forums, so I know what they're doing. They are doing the easy way of blocking players that can get a new IP each time they log on. The problem is, while they are blocking every IP that a banned person can get, they are blocking legit forum members.

Gree, Quit being lazy!!!!

Ty1on
02-26-2013, 01:22 AM
Kinda funny, because everyone affected by this can't post to back me up...

Ballerado
02-26-2013, 01:25 AM
Im guessing you are saying that everyone uses the same few proxies?

Ram
02-26-2013, 01:26 AM
Madhatter is that you?

Ty1on
02-26-2013, 01:33 AM
Im guessing you are saying that everyone uses the same few proxies?

It's not a proxie thing, it's a subnet thing.

You're IP might be 123.456.789.123 If I wanted to block your IP, I'd block 123.456.789.123 But if you rebooted and got 123.456.789.124, my ip ban didn't work.

So If I'm lazy, rather than blocking the IP you keep logging on with, I'd block 123.456.789.

Notice how I didn't add the last subnet? I just blocked quite of few Innocent bystanders, but stopped that one guy. LAZY!

Ty1on
02-26-2013, 01:39 AM
Madhatter is that you?

If you say so, but the mods know exactly what I'm talking about. Why else am I blocked when accessing the forum from LTE, but can access just fine from wifi (different ISP). Especially when I've never logged on from LTE

PawnXIIX
02-26-2013, 02:10 AM
Luciferian is also blocked from getting on the forums, as far as I can tell.

Luciferianism
02-26-2013, 03:33 AM
(On at my university at the moment) Yes, my home internet has an IP Ban and I can't access the forum so CJ if you're seeing this sort it out yo!

Munch on it
02-26-2013, 03:33 AM
Yep this happened awhile back but they must have lifted the ban but now it's back and happening to me again when using my mobile carriers network

CJ54
02-26-2013, 06:22 AM
Yeah, temporary state of affairs.

Daniel2115
02-26-2013, 06:43 AM
Yeah, temporary state of affairs.

Cj! How's that list coming?

RijilV
02-26-2013, 11:12 AM
Kinda funny, because everyone affected by this can't post to back me up...

See no complaints must be working duh!

PC77
02-26-2013, 11:29 AM
See no complaints must be working duh!
Hey RijilV, you hooked up with a syndicate?

Ramshutu
02-26-2013, 11:57 AM
Yeah, temporary state of affairs.

I hope that doesn't mean that the IP ban was temporary until they can sort out a permanent account ban for us miscreants and trouble makers.

I hope you realise I had cold sweats and the shakes from not being able to find out exactly how the CK thread worked out.

SoccerStud
02-26-2013, 04:10 PM
Raggy is banned as well. Quite a few HTC members were knocked out

cooch
02-26-2013, 04:12 PM
Yes it's quiet. Some of it good as some of the folks that always spit lemons that the rest of us ignored or tried to make lemonade out of are strangely quiet. Good with bad tradeoff. I bet they'll be back unfortunately

CJ54
02-26-2013, 04:17 PM
I hope that doesn't mean that the IP ban was temporary until they can sort out a permanent account ban for us miscreants and trouble makers.

Nah, I mean the sub-level IP bans are temporary until we can get a couple of other things into place. It's a crappy sledgehammer-to-crack-walnut approach. No sense making things difficult for a bunch of legit posters, and I apologize for the inconvenience in the meantime.

jobadass
02-26-2013, 04:23 PM
Nah, I mean the sub-level IP bans are temporary until we can get a couple of other things into place. It's a crappy sledgehammer-to-crack-walnut approach. No sense making things difficult for a bunch of legit posters, and I apologize for the inconvenience in the meantime.we understand WHY you're doing it, just hope it gets solved quick.

Upsetting to hear Raggy is feeling the effects...no wonder that bugger hasn't PMed me lately😃

Swearengen
02-26-2013, 04:23 PM
today was second IP ban in 3 days, this one only lasted a few hours... ugggg

Dipstik
02-26-2013, 04:32 PM
Yes it's quiet. Some of it good as some of the folks that always spit lemons that the rest of us ignored or tried to make lemonade out of are strangely quiet. Good with bad tradeoff. I bet they'll be back unfortunately

I've been busy today.

Dhusagar
02-26-2013, 04:48 PM
I've been busy today.

Darn it! CJ!!! You missed one of them varmints!!!

Amber_
02-26-2013, 05:11 PM
I also got banned today! And as far as I can remember I've never insulted or been mean to anyone. I'm always nice and friendly to whoever writes me.

Watoosy
02-26-2013, 05:22 PM
I also got banned today! And as far as I can remember I've never insulted or been mean to anyone. I'm always nice and friendly to whoever writes me.

I think your looks have cause some eye strain here. Need/want bigger picture.

Dipstik
02-26-2013, 05:34 PM
She's a dude, watoosy...

cooch
02-26-2013, 06:24 PM
I've been busy today.

dippy you at least try to help folks sometimes with a bit of sarcasm. I mean the guys like crazy charlie mansion where everything out of his mouth is fillin' up lemon baskets.

TZora
02-27-2013, 07:25 PM
wow, banning ip ranges or banning ISPs isn't smart if that's what gree is doing .. its like blocking a whole region or a group of people .. just my thoughts

Dipstik
02-27-2013, 09:34 PM
Can we ip ban .gb?

corbaman
02-27-2013, 09:51 PM
It's not a proxie thing, it's a subnet thing.


Or... its a proxy thing.

Some ISPs put all their traffic through just one or two proxies, so all of their customers show up as just one or two IP origins. AOL used to do this, so back in the early days when everyone was still using AOL, about 5% of the Internet showed up as just one origin IP.

In any case, not all that many people use this forum, so it's unlikely that you would happen to be on the same IP or subnet as a forum spammer, here.

Unless...... OMG!! We've traced the spam, maam! The spam is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!

Tommy Two Toes
02-27-2013, 10:01 PM
I also got banned today!

If they ban you, I'm quitting.

We've never interacted, but seeing your lovely icon in any thread brightens my day.

Tommy Two Toes
02-27-2013, 10:02 PM
AOL used to do this, so back in the early days when everyone was still using AOL, about 5% of the Internet showed up as just one origin IP.

I remember when geolocation was new, and trolls all over the internet were (wrongly) doxxing people as residents of Virginia, since that's where AOL's IP address was registered.

Ty1on
02-27-2013, 10:44 PM
Or... its a proxy thing.

Some ISPs put all their traffic through just one or two proxies, so all of their customers show up as just one or two IP origins. AOL used to do this, so back in the early days when everyone was still using AOL, about 5% of the Internet showed up as just one origin IP.

In any case, not all that many people use this forum, so it's unlikely that you would happen to be on the same IP or subnet as a forum spammer, here.

Unless...... OMG!! We've traced the spam, maam! The spam is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!

Maybe the small IP's still do, but not the bigger ones. Funny bringing AOL into the conversation. Seriously! Funny!

PawnXIIX
02-27-2013, 11:19 PM
Maybe the small IP's still do, but not the bigger ones. Funny bringing AOL into the conversation. Seriously! Funny!

AOL man, that was right when I was first getting into computers. I still have my disks somewhere along with my original AOL account :D

Luciferianism
02-28-2013, 04:48 AM
Still locked out at home ...