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Jhenry02
01-27-2013, 09:07 PM
On your top 45 screen, the top 45 are listed by top attack points correct?
Or is it top total points attack + defense?
Also when you bring a defensive unit in, it goes by defense correct? Meaning that a 0/10 medic will get used before an 8/6 armed citadel tank.

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I ask because of this image:

The faction raider is 337/361
And the wavebreaker is 370/255

For the longest time the wavebreaker was before the faction raider, now they are switched. Did the algorithm for determining units brought into battle change? I thought maybe it had to do with country and boost buildings but I am Russia and that is only 10% boost and my air and sea boost buildings are the same output.

Just curious if anyone can clarify this for me?

-J

King little fruit fly
01-27-2013, 09:12 PM
Henry, did you factor in the faction boost bonus?

Jhenry02
01-27-2013, 09:20 PM
We do have more air boosts than sea, no I didnt.
Thanks fruit fly.

Corsair
01-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Yeah, boosts impact it. Your last unit in the top 45 is not always the weakest, either.

Jhenry02
01-27-2013, 09:29 PM
I figured boosts impacted it, I just forgot about faction boosts. Mainly because I didn't think they worked. When I buy them I don't see a stat change.

Corsair
01-27-2013, 10:07 PM
They don't seem to impact your visible stats, of course. This is Gree. But do a little PvP and watch your attack score, you'll see the boosts. The score changes a lot, so they probably added a randomizer to make things interesting, though supposedly there had been one before, too. But at least now if you lose you can see why.

Jhenry02
01-27-2013, 10:37 PM
Half the time my attack stats are 5-10k under my profile stats

Procyon
01-28-2013, 05:57 AM
@Corsair - by a potential randomizer, do you mean that would be why my attack is one amount on one pvp and another when I immediately attack the same person again? Saw this all the time with both A and D stats for myself and my opponent during WD. Can't recall specifics but there were 25% swings at times if not more.

Ph4ntom Stranger
01-28-2013, 06:02 AM
@Corsair - by a potential randomizer, do you mean that would be why my attack is one amount on one pvp and another when I immediately attack the same person again? Saw this all the time with both A and D stats for myself and my opponent during WD. Can't recall specifics but there were 25% swings at times if not more.

Yes that is correct as to my understanding from what I've heard from everyone including what the dev's have told us in the past.

HGF69
01-28-2013, 06:28 AM
When I buy them I don't see a stat change.

You and me both

Procyon
01-28-2013, 10:44 AM
Yes that is correct as to my understanding from what I've heard from everyone including what the dev's have told us in the past.

Thanks, Ph4ntom. I knew there was always a roll of the dice no matter the stat advantage but never knew how they factored it in and the swings just seemed crazy during b4b.

Paddy89
01-28-2013, 11:42 AM
There is a dice that can give you a positive multiplier or a negative multiplier & each person has an independt roll of the dice - then there is your attack skill points times that multiplier vs their defense skill points times their independent multiplier. So in other words - attack people that are 60k below your stats !

General Maximus
01-29-2013, 09:08 PM
Thanks for the info share.

Mastert55
01-29-2013, 09:28 PM
How does the attacks incorporate Attack and Defense stats and faction bonus? Do they average both stats and roll a dice or randomly select what your hit will be against another player?

BigBassTurd
01-29-2013, 09:35 PM
How does the attacks incorporate Attack and Defense stats and faction bonus? Do they average both stats and roll a dice or randomly select what your hit will be against another player?I didn't get any dice when I downloaded the app. Looks like i have to put a fix it ticket in and have them over nighted.

Jhenry02
01-29-2013, 09:57 PM
Master,
Figuring out the exact algorithm for attack is goofy.
When bonuses are applied? Are they applied cumulatively? Are all bonuses based on top of base attack?
Do the attack and defense skill points really help the dice roll in your favor? I don't think that they all work properly. Because my attack score shown during battles is significantly lower than what my profile shows.

-J

waterdog87
01-30-2013, 10:07 PM
you and me both

alot of good info, i'm trying to get my ten reply s in so i can start a new thread