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Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 05:59 AM
So HERE is the truth about the Factions about to be formed. Remember the scene from Titanic when they were evacuating the Women & Children onto the life boats and suddenly everyone realized there weren't enough boats for everyone? Well - that's the deal with the Factions - so now there has to be a Strategic plan to get the Veteran Forum Faction to come together.

Originally we thought the Factions were going to be limited to 10 people to start out with and then be able to grow to 50. Somehow now through other sources - there is the rumor that the factions will start out with 20 people. Regardless - as you saw with the VFF thread - there are over 50 people interested in joining the VFF.

So now there has to be a distinction between why you WANT to be in a certain Faction or why you are WANTED to be in a certain Faction.

So - the "Civlian" Faction will be those Veteran Forum members who want to join up with people they have gotten to know over the past year - regardless of A/D or IPH stats - almost strictly based on "social" reasons. I call this the Civilian Squad because some people on this Squad will simply fill a spot to be part of the "cool Kids" table in the cafeteria - but really have no time or interest or stats to compliment the team - other than their simple desire to "play" with some familiar names. Perhaps these people collect their cash once or twice a day, have an IPH under 200k - have Stats that are under 40K on an account between level 40 to 100 with NO desire to level up past 120. These folks play the game casually, but have dedicated a long time to develop their Base & Army and really don't want to be bothered to "show up" for any special attack missions - but want more of the Social Aspect of being on a team and playing "Just A Game". Nothing wrong with that at all - just making a distinction here as everyone has a different playing style.

Then there are those with a true competitive nature who want to be part of an "Elite Hit Squad" and instead of trying to cram into the Row Boats leaving the Titanic - they prefer to jump on the Navy Seal Motor Inflatable Boats that are High Speed / Low Drag. These guys collect 8 to 10 times a day, have IPH over well 500k, stats well over 120K and are between level 120 to 180 and are willing to go all the way to level 200. For comparison sake - call these folks "Black Ops". These guys want the thrill of coordinated attacks, all in on donating to the Fortification process - and really want to take this MW3 to a super competitive level. These guys are already "recruiting" players with Uber stats and want to dominate MW3 as quickly as possible and they really don't care "WHO" is on the team from a personality perspective as much as who can carry their weight and then some in playing "More than a Game" with true passion.

So - ultimately we would ALL like to end up on one big Happy Forum team - but even 50 isn't enough room in the boat for the nearly 600 who just recently competed in the Forum missions contest.

So now YOU have to decide if you are a Civilian or a Black Ops Player and put the ego's aside and figure out if you want to be on a Social VFF team or if you're willing to participate in an Hour Long raid via whatever communication comes down from a Black Ops team over a 3 day period.

Now comes the tough choices - let the Civilian team run together knowing that a few will become ultimate fighting warriors and others will just ride in the rescue boat - or try to prove yourself worthy of being a Super Soldier on the Uber Elite Black Ops Attack force that will probably grow quicker and be able to accept more team members - but will require sincere dedication to the game.

So here is what is needed on the Super Elite Black Ops Seal Team:

High Attack Stats & Stamina for the Offensive
High Defense Stats & high Def Skill points for the Defense Leader
High IPH to donate to the cause
Willing to level up 20 to 30 times over the next few weeks

So maybe you have something to offer above - or maybe you're realizing at this point you're not really wanting to conquer the world but are happy to play along with other Forum members so it will be a little bit more fun than playing on a Faction with total strangers.

Regardless - 2, 3 or maybe 4 factions will be forming soon and some of you have already "committed" allegiance to what you hope will become the Black Ops team whereas others feel good about being included in a Friendly Forum Faction. There are lots of roles to fill and there is room for everyone in some capacity - but you gotta be real and understand that the competitive folks who are Born to be Elite Ops Fighters may run off into the night and choose a being on a Battleship over a Cruise Liner so merging the two later may be a little more difficult choice to make.

I'm glad we all have this Forum to connect with players in a more in-depth capacity - and honestly this is what I have always admired about the Pirates :)

All that being said, we will need a couple of Volunteers to Head up a Faction. You know your strengths, you know if you really want to add a whole new dimension to the game - so If you're up for the Challenge and are willing to put a little more into the game - please make it known you are willing to be more than a passenger in the boat.

On the other hand, if you know you want to slip into the night with Ninja fighters, your stats probably already show that competitive edge and you are probably already being recruited or seeking out those who share your passion for competition.

I'm torn between the two paths and may very well step back and ask someone to take the lead and just become a faithful soldier following orders - but it will be fun either way as we prepare for a new dimension to the game and see different personalities emerge as team work will now play a bigger role than just having someone listed as an Ally :)

And hopefully the individual teams starting out will truly be able to merge into one large Forum Faction where we benefit by strength in numbers! I hope they end up opening the Factions up to 500 people! Who knows where this journey will lead us.

Please be patient as the faction strategy is coming together. Why do I suddenly feel like a politician?

Lucky4u
11-18-2012, 06:45 AM
Aye aye sir!id be happy to serve anyway I can...ill just wait then..keep it up Mc.

MadManDK
11-18-2012, 06:56 AM
The people are cheering at the speech of politition McDoc, while they shout their support to the comming changes.

Thunder Child
11-18-2012, 07:01 AM
Suddenly feel like Robert Frost.... "Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveller"

Desas
11-18-2012, 07:21 AM
Finishing up McDocs' post I felt like either hazardous civilian or specops guy who's "just from the intro training"...

megaants
11-18-2012, 07:21 AM
I play the game every 30 minutes... hahahaha. But i started out late, so it will be a while before i can join the black ops :(

Poopenshire
11-18-2012, 07:22 AM
With Hopes that we can still merge those roads back together to make a much larger road.

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 08:15 AM
Think about it - if they are going to give that Über Stat prize to the top 100 Factions - they must be expecting like 3,000 factions to compete! If we have 4 or 5 VFF factions - then you are already part of an Elite team! It would be an amazing feat if we were able to position all of our VFF teams in the top 100!

Bronson
11-18-2012, 08:16 AM
My stats are creeping towards 70k and I am level 93.

These stats would not let me in your black ops group but I will be burning down my tent when the boycott finishes to level up as much as possible to farm units and whore some valor.

I play to win which leaves out joining the civilian group so I will have to find somewhere else to hang my hat.

Blackstone
11-18-2012, 08:29 AM
I'd like to request Super Elite Black Ops. No issues leveling up, high stats, high IPH. However, if I attack fools like crazy I'll expect other members to do the same. I'm in it to win it lol.

My stats and ID are in the VFF group thread.

Big John
11-18-2012, 08:29 AM
I'm a reservist, willing to take part but may not always be available.

MadManDK
11-18-2012, 08:37 AM
@Bronson - Compared to our level we are strong and with a strong defense leader we could be SAS. On top of that you have a good IPH (a lot better than mine) and if we burn our tents and start seriously farming and fighting, we'll be hard to stop.

Fl@sh
11-18-2012, 08:40 AM
My stats are creeping towards 70k and I am level 93.

These stats would not let me in your black ops group but I will be burning down my tent when the boycott finishes to level up as much as possible to farm units and whore some valor.

I play to win which leaves out joining the civilian group so I will have to find somewhere else to hang my hat.I have a home for you...

Bronson
11-18-2012, 08:46 AM
@Bronson - Compared to our level we are strong and with a strong defense leader we could be SAS. On top of that you have a good IPH (a lot better than mine) and if we burn our tents and start seriously farming and fighting, we'll be hard to stop.

If level is a factor in the rankings and we did get teamed up with anyone in the 90s we would be laughing


I have a home for you...

If it has a fridge fully stocked with beer then count me in

Fl@sh
11-18-2012, 09:17 AM
If it has a fridge fully stocked with beer then count me inSorry to hijack your thread McDoc, but I like beer. I don't drink this watered down American crap either. I prefer Paulaner or Blue Moon. And I do have a fridge full since it is football season in America. We should start a beer thread, but it would get moved into the "thread abyss".

Jp lfs
11-18-2012, 09:33 AM
I am Black Ops all the way. I have been less social lately, but playing more than ever. Good Luck to all of you, but I am full on Merc for this event. In it to win it.

Jp lfs
11-18-2012, 09:36 AM
Let me add that I truly hope that I never have to face any of you on the battlefield, but if it comes to that, I hope we have enough mutual respect to still be friendly after the event, regardless of the victor.

Bronson
11-18-2012, 09:40 AM
Sorry to hijack your thread McDoc, but I like beer. I don't drink this watered down American crap either. I prefer Paulaner or Blue Moon. And I do have a fridge full since it is football season in America. We should start a beer thread, but it would get moved into the "thread abyss".

Done!!


Let me add that I truly hope that I never have to face any of you on the battlefield, but if it comes to that, I hope we have enough mutual respect to still be friendly after the event, regardless of the victor.

Come on JP its more fun kicking a mates ass especially if you can trash talk while doing it lol And remember its not about the taking part its about the winning!

Lucky4u
11-18-2012, 09:42 AM
I'm at level 90 too bron..madman is at my ally list..

Bronson
11-18-2012, 09:45 AM
I'm at level 90 too bron..madman is at my ally list..

What are you current stats?

manbeast
11-18-2012, 09:46 AM
Sorry to hijack your thread McDoc, but I like beer. I don't drink this watered down American crap either. I prefer Paulaner or Blue Moon. And I do have a fridge full since it is football season in America. We should start a beer thread, but it would get moved into the "thread abyss".


Faction name:

Forum Vets: Blood, Sweat, and Beers

Haha I love blue moon. It's great on tap with either a slice of an orange or splash of orange juice

Btw I think most forum groups are going to be a mixture of civilian and black ops. I know I'm very competitive and want to win, but at the same time I want to have fun playing with a fun team

Lucky4u
11-18-2012, 09:48 AM
From what I see..A/D(85/90k)...

Jp lfs
11-18-2012, 09:50 AM
I can see the fun in that, but I have no desire to go head-to-head with McDoc, ever. We are too closely matched. I feel like that showdown will only lead to mutual destruction. I would rather avoid my friends and focus my rage on strangers. My slash and burn, take no prisoners strategy will be hard to pull on a friend. We're not talking about snapping wet towels at each other in the locker room. This is full on war.

Bronson
11-18-2012, 09:52 AM
From what I see..A/D(85/90k)...

Well its Lucky4me, Lucky4u that I want to be allies lol PM me your number so I can add you

Bronson
11-18-2012, 09:54 AM
I can see the fun in that, but I have no desire to go head-to-head with McDoc, ever. We are too closely matched. I feel like that showdown will only lead to mutual destruction. I would rather avoid my friends and focus my rage on strangers. My slash and burn, take no prisoners strategy will be hard to pull on a friend. We're not talking about snapping wet towels at each other in the locker room. This is full on war.

I know what you mean but down here when facing off against a friend (in anything) we always go that extra 1% harder just for the bragging rights, but yes you do have to shake hands afterwards and get the beers in as its all fun and games

Lucky4u
11-18-2012, 09:56 AM
Well its Lucky4me, Lucky4u that I want to be allies lol PM me your number so I can add youpm sent bron...

Front Runner NL
11-18-2012, 10:48 AM
If level is a factor in the rankings and we did get teamed up with anyone in the 90s we would be laughing


I'm L90 ATM. If it is level based, and there is a bracket just under 100, then count me in!

Ph4ntom Stranger
11-18-2012, 10:48 AM
Good thread for making the distinction. I haven't played long enough to be on the Black Ops squad, stats speak for themselves (posted in VFF group page), while great for a level 56, bottom tier for VFF. If someone needs me to fulfill a specific role within your faction I'll give ya 110%. I log on constantly (ask this Mrs lol). I'll do what needs to be done if called upon, but I am also fine being on the sidelines for a while to keep growing.

bigflan
11-18-2012, 10:53 AM
I feel unwanted now

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 10:58 AM
I play to win which leaves out joining the civilian group so I will have to find somewhere else to hang my hat.

Poop is compiling a nice spreadsheet so Mav & I can work with other leaders to try and place people on teams to spread out the advantage so all teams can make the Top 100 prize and eventually all join the Mothership :)

I don't foresee just 2 teams so there will be a mixture of both types of players on ALL teams - I was just trying to speak some harsh truth about the super competitive nature of some vs the casual enjoyment of others.

I'm sure there is an amazing spot for you to hang your hat - maybe even a Captain's hat if you want to channel some of that desire to win :)

marebear
11-18-2012, 11:01 AM
I would like to be in a group where I am an asset. Im willing to level up, and will contribute anything I can offer. I do play all day everyday, I am an Indian not a chief. Will someone have me on their team?

bigflan
11-18-2012, 11:01 AM
Okay so there will be 2 teams I like this better gives me a chance at that tactical striker 1400/1200 with that juicy 20% infantry boost

Edit: just hit 3k stats at level 11

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 11:04 AM
I feel unwanted nowDude - there is a LLP / Camper Squad forming up as well with Dreno potentially taking the lead. You will prove valuable on any team as long as you're ready to start playing the game & level up (if this competition spits out a lot of XP). Everyone who has been camping has been doing it so they can become super strong at their level before eventually moving up - Well - NOW may be the moment you've been preparing for!

Fl@sh
11-18-2012, 11:06 AM
I would like to be in a group where I am an asset. My stats: I am willing to level up, and will contribute anything I can offer. I do play all day everyday, I am an Indian not a chief. Will someone have me on their team?You could remove this and join the private group chat to post your info.

General Soviet
11-18-2012, 11:07 AM
Well, I'm right inbetween the two teams, though put me on the civilians. My stats and IPH are higher than the standards for them, and I go on around 25 times a day, but I bet I could contribute more to that team.

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 11:08 AM
Marebear - everyone will be a valuable asset on which ever team we all end up - I was just trying to show both extreme ends of play - but a nice mixture of stats will make balanced teams that will go far :)

If everyone will trust Mav, Poop, myself, and a few others to sort through the stats and place people - we will try to ensure that every team is a winning team! It's just that someone has to put in the work to strategize - so we're just asking for a little patience & trust as we try to include everyone and work towards a common goal :)

It's our leadership, experience, planning, knowledge, and friendships that will make All VFF teams successful! Our goal is to make every team a winner so we all win the prizes and when the time comes to combine the teams - we're even stronger than the smaller parts :)

Poopenshire
11-18-2012, 11:09 AM
Sent you an invite marebear.

marebear
11-18-2012, 11:15 AM
Marebear - everyone will be a valuable asset on which ever team we all end up - I was just trying to show both extreme ends of play - but a nice mixture of stats will make balanced teams that will go far :). If you will trust Mav, Poop, myself, and a few others to sort through the stats and place people - we will try to ensure that every team is a winning team! It's just that someone has to put in the work to strategize - so we're just asking for a little patience & trust as we try to include everyone and work towards a common goal :)It's our leadership, experience, planning, knowledge, and friendships that will make All VFF teams successful! Our goal is to make every team a winner so we all win the prizes and when the time comes to combine the teams - we're even stronger than the smaller parts :)I totally trust you! Just throwing my hat in the ring. I'll be patiently waiting. Thanks for stepping up and leading :)

andypandy2
11-18-2012, 11:16 AM
I am level 103. 90 allies. 30k attack and defense. I am sitting on $250 million. Would that help a faction? Willing to help if you need me.

bigflan
11-18-2012, 11:17 AM
I can't wait for this update since the boss events are utterly useless

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 11:37 AM
Well, I'm right inbetween the two teams, though put me on the civilians. My stats and IPH are higher than the standards for them, and I go on around 25 times a day, but I bet I could contribute more to that team.A good measure on how you stack up in your bracket is How many Bosses you can kill for free. If you can make it to 15 or 20 - you're pretty strong for your level. I can only get to Boss #7 - but my Bracket includes folks with 300k to 600k stats - and even compared to some of stats from Forumites - I'm mediocre at best :/

manbeast
11-18-2012, 11:39 AM
I just beat 24 for free ;)

Lvl 150+ bosses are ludacris.

Poopenshire
11-18-2012, 11:40 AM
Speaking of which we nees to recruit atkeast 2 of those beastly players for defensive leaders. Vaporeon is 250K plus already. We could use a few more to sure up defenses. The rest of us can house with your average player.

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 11:44 AM
I just beat 24 for free ;)Lvl 150+ bosses are ludacris.You really are a beast :)

Fl@sh
11-18-2012, 11:46 AM
I can go all the way for free.

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 11:48 AM
I can go all the way for free.That's what SHE said - LoLoLoLoLoL

Jp lfs
11-18-2012, 11:52 AM
I just realized that I have never posted this:

Thanks McDoc for all of the info and organization. It is truly appreciated, no matter where we all wind up. You have done us all a great service.

Fl@sh
11-18-2012, 11:54 AM
That's what SHE said - LoLoLoLoLoLHaha, good one! Lol

bigflan
11-18-2012, 11:55 AM
A good measure on how you stack up in your bracket is How many Bosses you can kill for free. If you can make it to 15 or 20 - you're pretty strong for your level. I can only get to Boss #7 - but my Bracket includes folks with 300k to 600k stats - and even compared to some of stats from Forumites - I'm mediocre at best :/

I can get to boss 19 without gold is what I'm guessing

$treak
11-18-2012, 11:58 AM
I can get to boss 19 without gold is what I'm guessing

Stop guessing and just do it.

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 12:08 PM
I just realized that I have never posted this:Thanks McDoc for all of the info and organization. It is truly appreciated, no matter where we all wind up. You have done us all a great service.Thanks JP - just trying to be helpful

Jhenry02
11-18-2012, 12:09 PM
I feel like i am already done with factions.

I was invited into the vff group, i posted my stats, if anyone actually wants my help let me know.

Led
11-18-2012, 12:49 PM
Wait....


I want to sit at the cool kids table!! 😁

Hivesy
11-18-2012, 04:16 PM
Nice one McDoc and Poop, I've got 10 ish already confirmed for a Euro team but I'd prefer to do what you're suggesting to be honest. I only ever started this with a view to all the VFF teams joining up when possible so working together now makes sense.

Let me know if you need any Excel help :)

helli0n
11-18-2012, 04:33 PM
would there be a faction which goes in between the both? as in im around 100-110k stats and lvl 110, just a bit short of getting into the black ops one, or should i keep leveling lol

Mcdoc
11-18-2012, 05:24 PM
I feel like i am already done with factions.I was invited into the vff group, i posted my stats, if anyone actually wants my help let me know.

So far we've just been knocking around preliminary strategies on how to best outfit 5 or 6 teams so that EVERY team will have a chance to win the tournament and get the prize and then soak up all the teams into one or two giant VFF Faction once we're able to expand.

Don't give up before we've even started :)



would there be a faction which goes in between the both? as in im around 100-110k stats and lvl 110, just a bit short of getting into the black ops one, or should i keep leveling lol

Honestly - you will fit into any team - except maybe the Uber elite Special Black Ops Ninja Killing Force team - which I don't think even my stats are even worthy.

helli0n
11-18-2012, 05:25 PM
Honestly - you will fit into any team - except maybe the Uber elite Special Black Ops Ninja Killing Force team - which I don't think even my stats are even worthy.

Lol alright then

bigflan
11-18-2012, 05:26 PM
I think it's good that all the forum people are working together so everyone wins

Poopenshire
11-18-2012, 05:28 PM
Long live VFF.

God save the Queen.

Thunder Child
11-18-2012, 05:30 PM
Marebear - everyone will be a valuable asset on which ever team we all end up - I was just trying to show both extreme ends of play - but a nice mixture of stats will make balanced teams that will go far :)

If everyone will trust Mav, Poop, myself, and a few others to sort through the stats and place people - we will try to ensure that every team is a winning team! It's just that someone has to put in the work to strategize - so we're just asking for a little patience & trust as we try to include everyone and work towards a common goal :)

It's our leadership, experience, planning, knowledge, and friendships that will make All VFF teams successful! Our goal is to make every team a winner so we all win the prizes and when the time comes to combine the teams - we're even stronger than the smaller parts :)I think I speak more most of us when I say there couldn't be two better people to accomplish this task. Behind you both all the way....

Dogtownziku
11-18-2012, 06:03 PM
If You need me just let me know. My stats are in sig, I don't mind leveling up, play everyday, got about 100 def. skill points and 37 stamina points. I live in GMT+1 time zone (if it does matter). Ready and waiting. Cheers

Poopenshire
11-18-2012, 06:09 PM
Jay the Robber,I just denies your request pending an explanation why you want to join. I dont wamt you and Jeffery to carry over your fight to our group.

Mad
11-18-2012, 06:29 PM
I feel like i am already done with factions.

I was invited into the vff group, i posted my stats, if anyone actually wants my help let me know.

The vast majority of the factions will be formed in the game itself. Don't worry if you have decent stats, you will be in demand.

Agent Orange
11-18-2012, 07:09 PM
Sounds like you are getting pretty full, you can drop me from your group. Thanks!

jeffrey
11-18-2012, 07:21 PM
Jay the Robber,I just denies your request pending an explanation why you want to join. I dont wamt you and Jeffery to carry over your fight to our group.


Don't worry, Poop, if Jay the Robber and I both join, there would be no problem right? Look what happen to CXN and I, we are rival turned buddy now. We are pretty civilized if you get to know us, it isn't really as bad as you think. :o

Poopenshire
11-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Invite sent. Everyone gets a chance. Dont make me regret it please.

JF5522
11-19-2012, 10:05 AM
Well its Lucky4me, Lucky4u that I want to be allies lol PM me your number so I can add youYo Bron, just sent you my third time ally request. may be this time you can save me a seat.

Mcdoc
11-19-2012, 11:48 AM
Don't worry, Poop, if Jay the Robber and I both join, there would be no problem right? Look what happen to CXN and I, we are rival turned buddy now. We are pretty civilized if you get to know us, it isn't really as bad as you think. :oYeah - it REALLY is as bad as we think - and it's much worse than your clueless little mind is aware of when SO many people are begging not to be placed in a faction with you. Go read your whiner post / take some Prozac / and man up.

Vertex
11-19-2012, 02:27 PM
I've been a long time lurker (back when digitalwalker still posted).

I was wonder if any of the factions still needed players. My current stats are listed below:
Lvl 87
Att/def (boosted) - 59k/65k
IPH - 770k

I'm on eastern standard time.

575 415 644

Thank you for your consideration!