The writing is on the wall(s), literally

[Deluxe]

I was perusing my mafia members' walls and was tickled to see some of the big spenders/high stat players in the game talking about being done buying gold. The recurring theme was mixed between the abysmal job that the developers and support do at fixing issues with prizes that people paid substantial money to win, and also just the general retard-idity of the newer events. The bait and switch on getting to the boss and realizing the '1 boss', in fact, required 10 hits, was a prime example. Lack of a top 250 leader board another shining example of their ineptitude (whether it was calculated or not, i dont care, they are still inept). Final piece of the puzzle was the bullets not dropping for over a day from PvP and being extremely sparse from PvE to the point that efforts to accumulate them were futile.
I hope these big spenders stay true to what they are claiming. Gree has got its head up its own arse and are easily the worst company i have ever dealt with on a personal level. So, hats off to the greedy f-sticks who call the shots, i hope you lose your benefits because the company is going downhill. I only use that example because these idiots will need the financial repercussions to hit close to home for them change anything.
Note: i know some of my points were not new and are pretty common knowledge. However, the handful of people posting in the last 24 hours that they are done spending was new, especially considering who these people are...
I am done spending on this game, no ifs ands or buts...
Id be curious to get feedback on how many other folks are 100% done spending and the underlying reason(s) why. Please share your feelings!

[TonySpaghetti]

I'm done also. That last event was garbage.. Keep killing thugs and accumulate junk like the deviant coat but nothing else, no Top 250 leader board as you said, cheaters running rampant, the list goes on and on.

Here's the worst part:

I understand that software development takes time and costs money, so some of those game issues are POSSIBLY understandable. What is not excusable is CCM's forum habit of setting expectations and not living up to them: the item for the android survey people, the NYC item, the Skype call item, the PM's that go unanswered, the constant nuisance of people who get banned from here and keep coming back (yes, vaJJ, I'm talking about you) and the offensive posts by the aforementioned that go unaddressed, even though the forum's "report this post" feature has been used.

[Dhusagar]

It strikes me, that the disenchantment in MW is seeping into the other games. I started looking on the app store for alternatives.

The big test however, will be if Gree do a 40% off sale. Then we will see what happens. For my part, I have stopped buying gold in MW and am just camping out. Haven't done the last nuclear drop thing.

Haven't decided what to do in the other games yet, but am becoming more and more disillusioned. Unless there is a radical change of direction, I suspect Gree will be getting their income from new players.

[jobadass]

It never ceases to amaze me how little Gree seems to care. They seem to go against everything we seem to ask them for.We should start a list, but from quick recollection I'll list a few that never got answered:
499 problem
Defense Building problem
Cheaters/hackers
Events style
M4A1/DD Bus
Spend Gold confirmation button
Skills points effect (I know we have our theories)

What else?

To stay on-topic: I haven't spent much on this game, have really enjoyed it, but agree that to spend any more would be foolish at this point.

[Patrick616]

I'm done also. That last event was garbage.. Keep killing thugs and accumulate junk like the deviant coat but nothing else, no Top 250 leader board as you said, cheaters running rampant, the list goes on and on.

Here's the worst part:

I understand that software development takes time and costs money, so some of those game issues are POSSIBLY understandable. What is not excusable is CCM's forum habit of setting expectations and not living up to them: the item for the android survey people, the NYC item, the Skype call item, the PM's that go unanswered, the constant nuisance of people who get banned from here and keep coming back (yes, vaJJ, I'm talking about you) and the offensive posts by the aforementioned that go unaddressed, even though the forum's "report this post" feature has been used.


CCM appears to be all about MW now! Looking at his posting history it's been all MW the past week!

[Deluxe]

I'm done also. That last event was garbage.. Keep killing thugs and accumulate junk like the deviant coat but nothing else, no Top 250 leader board as you said, cheaters running rampant, the list goes on and on.

Here's the worst part:

I understand that software development takes time and costs money, so some of those game issues are POSSIBLY understandable. What is not excusable is CCM's forum habit of setting expectations and not living up to them: the item for the android survey people, the NYC item, the Skype call item, the PM's that go unanswered, the constant nuisance of people who get banned from here and keep coming back (yes, vaJJ, I'm talking about you) and the offensive posts by the aforementioned that go unaddressed, even though the forum's "report this post" feature has been used.

Almost forgot the cheaters running wild. While weve got some very informed tech savvy forum members stating that it would be relatively easy to flag these cheaters and stop them.
Yeah, the offensive trolling is classic too. I was banned in game for calling someone a homosexual...ok, maybe not the best thing to say but they jumped on me and banned me within an hour of stating this on someone else's wall (mind you i was clearly provoked) and then the repeat offenders on here get, at most, a slap on the wrist. Just an inexcusable degree of inconsistency at work here. Lets permanently ban AMG but idiots like joekeem/santa can say ridiculous things and cuss people out beyond belief and they are back a few days later...

I still maintain that if someone on here had the resources to open this door...this company could be brought to its knees by a class action lawsuit...one can dream...

[Patrick616]

Im done as well. I agree with all the reasons above, but I would also like to add the fact there were 2 awards for top25/250 for both time completed and kills. Talk about leading people on... Would of been nice to know that their were 2 different items rather than to let us assume the item shown was for amount of kills. Only to kill the boss and find that another item is being offered for the top 25/250 in kills. Pathetic! Sure 2 prizes are better than 1, but common is it that hard to put in writing so we are aware?

[Deluxe]

I still enjoy the game, to be fair, but id be a fool to spend any more. Morally i cannot reward the company in light of their indiscretions and general inability to conduct themselves in a manner that is the slightest bit professional.

[Patrick616]

Almost forgot the cheaters running wild. While weve got some very informed tech savvy forum members stating that it would be relatively easy to flag these cheaters and stop them.
Yeah, the offensive trolling is classic too. I was banned in game for calling someone a homosexual...ok, maybe not the best thing to say but they jumped on me and banned me within an hour of stating this on someone else's wall (mind you i was clearly provoked) and then the repeat offenders on here get, at most, a slap on the wrist. Just an inexcusable degree of inconsistency at work here. Lets permanently ban AMG but idiots like joekeem/santa can say ridiculous things and cuss people out beyond belief and they are back a few days later...

I still maintain that if someone on here had the resources to open this door...this company could be brought to its knees by a class action lawsuit...one can dream...


I reported a cheater 2 weeks ago. Had exclusive items to both android and apple events. I know he has spent $$ on the game and has not been banned!

Also contacted support about a player whom received the Top 10 item for PVP event and gloated on others walls he had gotten it due to an "agreement" with gree! Just so happens I had a screen shot of this players stats the day before the event started and they finished the event with approx 8K wins. Almost half the 15K that many were told that was needed. Support used their typical lines in their responses!

[Patrick616]

I still enjoy the game, to be fair, but id be a fool to spend any more. Morally i cannot reward the company in light of their indiscretions and general inability to conduct themselves in a manner that is the slightest bit professional.

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Canoehead]

CCM is focused on the MW forum, because their gold boycott is apparently working. Looks like we have a roadmap here. Indians, will you get on board?

[Paulio]

Deluxe, good post, but I'm calling BS on the people that claim they are done buying gold. I've heard that story before, yet the top 25 leaderboard reaches new highs each time.

Canoehead - No, Indians will not get on board.

[dudeman]

There are so many reasons to not buy gold that I'm not even going to list one. I feel a little bit silly that I did in the past, however, I'm not going to regret it. I started as a free player, the game saw a brief period where it appeared to be improving so I felt like I was making a (small) contribution to that, and once it became obvious that the "improvements" were mostly polish to sell off the company to Gree, I no longer saw any reason to spend. My $100 here or there isnt worth a squirt of piss in the Pacific to a $200 million dollar organization. I'm better off keeping it.

Edit: Oh yes, and then there's the whole "how this company conducts itself" issue. I think we all know where I stand on that, so that's all I'm going to say for now.

[Patrick616]

Deluxe, good post, but I'm calling BS on the people that claim they are done buying gold. I've heard that story before, yet the top 25 leaderboard reaches new highs each time.

Canoehead - No, Indians will not get on board.

True, but 75%+ of the leaderboard are the same people over and over again!

I would normally agree 100% that it is BS, but I have heard it more this past week from people than ever before. It seems with the latest event CC has hit a new low

[Dhusagar]

Deluxe, good post, but I'm calling BS on the people that claim they are done buying gold. I've heard that story before, yet the top 25 leaderboard reaches new highs each time.

Canoehead - No, Indians will not get on board.

Before you make those claims, go have a look at the MWleaderboard! 160 to get the top prize? It is normally closer to 1000. And the boycott has reduced their take. Don't think it will have an effect long-term though.

Also, I thought you were CK? You now speak for the Indians as well?

[nopenopenope]

Before you make those claims, go have a look at the MWleaderboard! 160 to get the top prize? It is normally closer to 1000. And the boycott has reduced their take.

lolz MW players are but a fraction of CC players. This has been going on since the beginning and sheeple still cough it up time after time...

[Tomatoneverdie]

I still enjoy the game, to be fair, but id be a fool to spend any more. Morally i cannot reward the company in light of their indiscretions and general inability to conduct themselves in a manner that is the slightest bit professional.

+1, same exact thought....

[Paulio]

Also, I thought you were CK? You now speak for the Indians as well?

What I'm saying is that people will see how low the top 25 leaderboard is, then when the timer shuts off, about a dozen Indians will make a mad dash for the top 25.

[BOS]

What I'm saying is that people will see how low the top 25 leaderboard is, then when the timer shuts off, about a dozen Indians will make a mad dash for the top 25.

There is usually a dozen Indians in the top 25 already :p

[Paulio]

There is usually a dozen Indians in the top 25 already :p

Exactly, and they aren't about to concede the top 25 spots in the name of a boycott. Especially if they can get it on the cheap.

[Dhusagar]

What I'm saying is that people will see how low the top 25 leaderboard is, then when the timer shuts off, about a dozen Indians will make a mad dash for the top 25.

The MW board was live till the end.

[vitus79]

What I'm saying is that people will see how low the top 25 leaderboard is, then when the timer shuts off, about a dozen Indians will make a mad dash for the top 25.

the dirty dozen? thought those were cowboys

[Burn]

Definitely done - TP gave an insight into the fact that even dramatically uplifted stats actually change nothing. Same game, same drudgery, different rivals is perhaps the only change. Paying to change my rivals? Not really worth it.

Other factor is the ridiculous inflation creted by free Epic Boss items and Scratchers - for example, every Common item in recent Epic Boss event was better than every Common item in current crates. There is zero incentive to spend on crates. And Grees' obvious willingness to basically wipe out any past Gold spent on Common level weapons, means my investment in Gold is not future-proof - why would I pay for an advantage, when that advantage is and will be eroded on a daily basis.

Only thing that keeps me playing currently is the fun factor of the whole Indians vs Whoever mob war - and that is a benefit created by players themselves as opposed to Gree.

[SarkarRaj]

There have been mentions here and there but what happened to "Cheaters Will be Banned" Slogan. I just posted a Screen Shots in an another thread of player with 3000 Armored Jets and a Casino being built at level 83. THEY DO NOT EVEN UNLOCK till lvl 185. What the Frak! how can you not NOTICE THAT. GREE no golds m8! no more! if idiots like that are allowed to play this game then what is the point.

[(CK) EL]

Definitely done - TP gave an insight into the fact that even dramatically uplifted stats actually change nothing. Same game, same drudgery, different rivals is perhaps the only change. Paying to change my rivals? Not really worth it.

Other factor is the ridiculous inflation creted by free Epic Boss items and Scratchers - for example, every Common item in recent Epic Boss event was better than every Common item in current crates. There is zero incentive to spend on crates. And Grees' obvious willingness to basically wipe out any past Gold spent on Common level weapons, means my investment in Gold is not future-proof - why would I pay for an advantage, when that advantage is and will be eroded on a daily basis.

Only thing that keeps me playing currently is the fun factor of the whole Indians vs Whoever mob war - and that is a benefit created by players themselves as opposed to Gree.

I must be sick or something :)
Those r exactly my thoughs, too

[nopenopenope]

CC gold spending has always been about gains in the immediate present. If you thought you were "future-proofing", the only one fooled is you.

[Burn]

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

I'm sure I'm not the only one that won't be taken in by the same trick again.

[jobadass]

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

I'm sure I'm not the only one that won't be taken in by the same trick again.I prefer,"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining."

[Elastic Earl]

In light of what is transpiring in MW I thought they would have at least handled the leaderboard correctly. Sadly, they did not.

No top 250 at all?

Was the Kills Leaderboard frozen or not? Some reports say froze with 30 minutes to go. I never saw it change with 1 hour to go. Either freeze it and announce it or leave live till the end.

No results or Items awarded after event closed? why? I know they can get this part right because they have done it before and items from recent MW event were awarded same day.

Time Leaderboard. Why not have a clock running and as people finish place them? Keep it going until top 250 is filled out. Alot of players gave up because they had no idea where they stood on time.

[Patrick616]

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

I'm sure I'm not the only one that won't be taken in by the same trick again.


I like the way George Bush says the quote better! LMAO!

[Patrick616]

In light of what is transpiring in MW I thought they would have at least handled the leaderboard correctly. Sadly, they did not.

No top 250 at all?

Was the Kills Leaderboard frozen or not? Some reports say froze with 30 minutes to go. I never saw it change with 1 hour to go. Either freeze it and announce it or leave live till the end.

No results or Items awarded after event closed? why? I know they can get this part right because they have done it before and items from recent MW event were awarded same day.

Time Leaderboard. Why not have a clock running and as people finish place them? Keep it going until top 250 is filled out. Alot of players gave up because they had no idea where they stood on time.


The whole event was a fu^^ up right from the start

[Deluxe]

I know there are many skeptics (honesty, im one myself) but change doesnt happen just because people think about it to themselves and only internalize it...as Gandhi says 'be the change that you wish to see in the world'
Cut the apathy, way too many americans suck because thats all they do is complain and never take the tangible measures to actuate any change, we settle for status quo because its too much to ask someone to actually work for an outcome any more, age of instant gratification over here and its deplorable. step up to the plate and be a part of a movement that is due...forget the top 25 prize for a couple events, let joe blow win one, no one is gonna catch the strongest players if they skip a couple events, but two events without 25 people dropping a thousand bucks will make a statement to the chumps who call the shots at gree. Skip a crate set or two...i know, OMG, unthinkable...if not, to all the people who complain and dont want to be a part of the change, go f yourselves for having no spine
To the haters, i know i sound like a mix between a cheerleader and a cheesy motivational speaker but whatever, tone it down a notch or two (or dont) and im still right

[mxz]

way too americans suckTread lightly, my friend. Canada didn't invent the first light bulb, fly the first airplane, start mass producing vehicles, first harness nuclear power, build the first laser, put a man on the moon, discover magnetic resonance imaging, invent the transistor, computer nor the internet.

If you want to talk about stepping up to the plate - don't say American citizens and companies haven't done their part for you. Without Americans you wouldn't have Crime City or this forum. Without Canadians, the only difference is we wouldn't have had to suffer through that deplorable post.

I'm sorry this isn't a constructive post - but your destructive words are hurtful to this community, unprovoked and ultimately unnecessary.

[Dipstik]

Canada did give us Shatner. That ought to count for something.

[Deluxe]

Tread lightly, my friend. Canada didn't invent the first light bulb, fly the first airplane, start mass producing vehicles, first harness nuclear power, build the first laser, put a man on the moon, discover magnetic resonance imaging, invent the transistor, computer nor the internet.

If you want to talk about stepping up to the plate - don't say American citizens and companies haven't done their part for you. Without Americans you wouldn't have Crime City or this forum. Without Canadians, the only difference is we wouldn't have had to suffer through that deplorable post.

I'm sorry this isn't a constructive post - but your destructive words are hurtful to this community, unprovoked and ultimately unnecessary.

Yah weve done great things and that was a little strong but were trending towards being laughed at by the world. I didnt target anyone personally, just lazy generalizations so dont take me so seriously
The obesity epidemic, digging ourselves into debt just to keep up w the jones', the instant gratifcation piece, global police pushing democracy on countries to serve our selfish interests...
When i back packed europe a decade ago (wasnt even as bad then) i didnt put a canada patch on my bag because i was ashamed, i did it to protect myself from scrutiny or unnecessary attention because of how many cultures/societies hate us
And im glad youre ho-hum about the us but, just as people do with their own religion, i can and should ask questions of my fellow americans...we are not beyond reproach and i have no problem calling it as i see it (and, yes, i can do that and still be a proud american just like i critique the heck out of gree/cc but still find room to enjoy the game)
And countries, people, teams, artists shouldnt be praised on their laurels, they need to progress and continue to produce quality 'product'
With the middle class shrinking away and the 'american dream' slipping away with it, weve got some reasons to be concerned and to need to continue to work to be better and that wont happen with apathy and acceptance of the status quo

[dudeman]

Tread lightly, my friend. Canada didn't invent the first light bulb, fly the first airplane, start mass producing vehicles, first harness nuclear power, build the first laser, put a man on the moon, discover magnetic resonance imaging, invent the transistor, computer nor the internet.

If you want to talk about stepping up to the plate - don't say American citizens and companies haven't done their part for you. Without Americans you wouldn't have Crime City or this forum. Without Canadians, the only difference is we wouldn't have had to suffer through that deplorable post.

I'm sorry this isn't a constructive post - but your destructive words are hurtful to this community, unprovoked and ultimately unnecessary.

This post is equally as unprovoked and unnecessary as the post you were criticizing.

There was no Canada v. America argument until you posted that, and your greater-than-thou attitude is absolutely uncalled for.

[Deluxe]

This post is equally as unprovoked and unnecessary as the post you were criticizing.

There was no Canada v. America argument until you posted that, and your greater-than-thou attitude is absolutely uncalled for.

+1
And im not even canadian, nor did i mention Canada, so im a little confused by the direction you went there

[emcee]

Canadian inventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_inventions
Not bad considering our population

When it comes to entertainment, movies, music, etc. its on an even more impressive level.

[Deluxe]

Canadian inventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_inventions
Not bad considering our population

When it comes to entertainment, movies, music, etc. its on an even more impressive level.

Walkie talkies!?!? I have canada to thank for my fun childhood!?

[emcee]

Walkie talkies!?!? I have canada to thank for my fun childhood!?

Don't forget the telephone by Alexander Graham Bell. We may not be playing this game on our phone if it wasn't for Bell.

[Deluxe]

I won a science fair in like 5th grade testing walkie talkie reception if i added different types of metals to their factory antennas and measured the degree to which these various metals boosted the signal or connectivity

[emcee]

I won a science fair in like 5th grade testing walkie talkie reception if i added different types of metals to their factory antennas and measured the degree to which these various metals boosted the signal or connectivity

I made a volcano and simulated an eruption with red food dye. Fun times :)

[Deluxe]

I made a volcano and simulated an eruption with red food dye. Fun times :)

Just classic right there

[Jian Carlo]

...... Alexander Graham Bell.
I thought he was British, but then again what do I know.

Deluxe, this is a good thread, so guys don't hijack it with silly infighting.

The fact is we are all stakeholders in Gree wither they like it or not. If they fail to live up to their promises or we believe they are going in the wrong direction it is our right to put forward our view. I certainly havent seen CCM on CC for sometime and if he is spending his time at MW because of a gold buying boycott then they certainly have caught his attention.

If the big spenders here on CC stand their ground, then we mid stat players will support them and spend no more on gold also.

But if we are not united .... Then forget about it.

[Sunsets]

You won't really get their attention any other way. Post all the forum suggestions and complaints you want - But as long as the money is coming in steadily, what do they honestly have to worry about?

Now if the majority stops spending for a few months and demands some changes? That'll be a WHOLE different story.

But I doubt that will actually happen.

[Nicky the Nose]

Really we need to worry about who''s better, America, or Canada? I think we missed the point. Gree is the problem not the players, not the players home country. I have stopped buying gold not that I bought that much but every bit counts for Gree. If we can all work together to hit Gree in their pocketbook then we as a group of players from many great nations have done a service to a game we all enjoy. Sure some people will use this to make themselves better individually but that will happen if we take a stand or not. (CK)EL and Burn both just agreed on this, if they can more of us should be able to. I guess what I'm saying is I'm in

[Deluxe]

To all the people providing it, thank you for the support and positive feedback. Movements start small but that's better than not starting at all! If lives are being lost while governments and leaders in the middle east are being challenged and overthrown, then for the life of me we, as a community, can find a way to get gree to listen and if this can pick up some steam maybe we could actually create some change...one can only hope anyways…

[Max Power]

I quit buying gold a long time ago because it simply isn't a value spending hundreds of real dollars on a game just to get a new set if rivals beating you up every day. That's just dumb.

While there are plenty of reasons to boycott Gree for their performance and incompetence, even if things worked perfectly it would still be dumb.

[Joeycool]

CCM appears to be all about MW now! Looking at his posting history it's been all MW the past week!

This is nothing new. CCM has always been about MW. In his AMA back in the day he openly said that MW was his favourite game.

I think this has always reflected in his posting habits.

[chalex accepted]

Exelent thread! alot of people need to hear this to finaly open their eyes. the game should be about tactic, math, stamina and dedication not a competition of who can affort to spend them most. Alot of people will ask them self wtf have i done in the next week, month, year if they keep spending like they are. lets help them realise sooner than later.

[Labradorite]

Exelent thread! alot of people need to hear this to finaly open their eyes. the game should be about tactic, math, stamina and dedication not a competition of who can affort to spend them most. Alot of people will ask them self wtf have i done in the next week, month, year if they keep spending like they are. lets help them realise sooner than later.

Excellen point. On the next level, this game is a great tool to teach players how to manage their Fear, Desire, Anger, and Pride.

[Honey Boo Boo]

Canada did give us Shatner. That ought to count for something.

Yes, but unfortunately they also gave us Nickleback. That is unforgivable.

[Hero of Time]

Yes, but unfortunately they also gave us Nickleback. That is unforgivable.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you.

[Honey Boo Boo]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you.

I thought I was on ignore....

[Hero of Time]

I thought I was on ignore....

You are but I just randomly decided to view that one post, same with this one.

[Honey Boo Boo]

You are but I just randomly decided to view that one post, same with this one.

Well, since I have your attention then...

what's good Santa? Lol.

[Hero of Time]

If you want to talk like that I can just stop clicking view post.

[Hero of Time]

It's bands like Nickelback that are killing rock these days.

[emcee]

What about Bieber fever :p

[nopenopenope]

Santa doesn't know his rock...


http://bourbontheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/rock-santa.jpg

[Deluxe]

Take this shiv to off topic...two steps forward eighteen steps backwards the second santa shows up

[nopenopenope]

Take this shiv to off topic...two steps forward eighteen steps backwards the second santa shows up

Agreed.

FORUM MOD: Please move this thread to Off-Topic.

Thanks!

[Deluxe]

Agreed.

FORUM MOD: Please move this thread to Off-Topic.

Thanks!

No dum dum, the trolls need to move. Talking about issues in the game that justify a gold boycott is not off-topic.

[nopenopenope]

No dum dum, the trolls need to move.

moles and trolls moles and trolls work work work


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF3pxBRAI0k

[Honey Boo Boo]

Santa doesn't know his rock...


http://bourbontheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/rock-santa.jpg

^^^ this should be your new avy Jokeeme. Make it happen.

[KemoKidd]

I stopped spending money on events when they reduced the stats on the top 250 prize by a few hundred. I stopped spending on crates after the "ammo crates" because no other crate seemed to be worth it after that. I completely stopped spending after getting screwed on the android pvp event. No compensation of a prize or gold which wasnt even the most disappointing part of it. The no explanation or apology was the worst! This was from both tickets sent and pms to CCM.

[Deluxe]

I stopped spending money on events when they reduced the stats on the top 250 prize by a few hundred. I stopped spending on crates after the "ammo crates" because no other crate seemed to be worth it after that. I completely stopped spending after getting screwed on the android pvp event. No compensation of a prize or gold which wasnt even the most disappointing part of it. The no explanation or apology was the worst! This was from both tickets sent and pms to CCM.

So the recurring theme elicits the supposition that gree employees shouldnt be able to look at themselves in a mirror without crying tears of shame

And +1 on crate BS and dropping top 250 prize stat significantly