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Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 07:55 AM
OK, I'm starting a new thread if people would like to post. Post a trivia question regarding known facts, but be ready to answer your own question after a period of time. Please edit your original question post with the answer.

Please stay on topic and have trvia questions only related to the game. No cheating and using the Modern War Toolkit or spreadsheets to find answers, just to verify them. Try to do it from memory for the challenge and try to stump people.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 07:56 AM
I'll start the show.

Question: What Cash or Valor unit has the lowest consumpion rate? I'm talking about about the number value not the descritpion of Very Low - High.

Answer: Yes believe it or not the Nuclear Sub with a "Medium" casualty rate published by Gree has a .000603 consumption rate or .06 as some people state for %.

Winner: Miner

Poopenshire
10-18-2012, 08:08 AM
Railgun Destroyer....

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 08:11 AM
Railgun Destroyer....
Sorry close but no cigar!!! I said try to stump people and this one is a age old mystery. LOL

Believe it or not Railgun is #9.

Miner
10-18-2012, 08:15 AM
Nuclear Submarine has the lowest consumption rate. I believe it's .06 if I'm not mistaken.

Aircraft carrier is a close 2nd at .07 or so I believe. You're gonna have to confirm those numbers as I'm not 100% confident on them.

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 08:17 AM
good thread mav ! if it is a trick question i will go with tree snipers as most people don't use them in battles , i don't have access to the game files so my guess is sea scout as i have not lost one in a loooong time .

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 08:19 AM
Nuclear Submarine has the lowest consumption rate. I believe it's .06 if I'm not mistaken.

Aircraft carrier is a close 2nd at .07 or so I believe. You're gonna have to confirm those numbers as I'm not 100% confident on them.
CORRECT. Very good.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 08:20 AM
No trick questions. Yes I assumed the unit will make it in your battle group to have a chance of being lost. LOL

manbeast
10-18-2012, 08:30 AM
interesting. i still have tramp stamp's spreadsheet in my bookmarks. just looked and the original consumption rate of the nuclear sub was .27%. not very good at all. it was a general rule that sea units had low consumption rates with the exception of all the subs. i wonder why they would change it!? really screws with people's strategies.

Baraka
10-18-2012, 08:37 AM
Aaaagh wen numbers n percentages get spewed out I get a headache. Lol. Good idea for a thread m8.

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 08:43 AM
me too ! how many builings can you own with no gold spent ? money and defence no tapjoy


Answer by maverick 104

Dhusagar
10-18-2012, 08:50 AM
This is an excellent thread and really useful for the non-initiated.

It reminds me of what the forum used to be like.

I don't have any answers, but would really like to see more questions asked.

Dhusagar
10-18-2012, 08:52 AM
me too ! how many builings can you own with no gold spent ? money and defence no tapjoy

101??.............

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 08:53 AM
no not 101

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 09:03 AM
interesting. i still have tramp stamp's spreadsheet in my bookmarks. just looked and the original consumption rate of the nuclear sub was .27%. not very good at all. it was a general rule that sea units had low consumption rates with the exception of all the subs. i wonder why they would change it!? really screws with people's strategies.

Yes I'm going by the latest data sets. I noticed this myself a long time ago on 5/11/12 http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?28763-Casualty-rate-of-bio-warfare-troop&p=217240#post217240

It is the reason I took over the sheet from TrampStamp (not posted public yet). I didn't have the means at the time to convert the data files so was relying on TrampStamp and DigitalWalker to provide me info back then (both who left the game). I noticed big differences in consumption values and thought maybe Gree changed values during events which I later showed was not the case. Many values where changed and around the time they fixed the "higher" losses people were seeing. Remember that time period where PVP stopped for 3 weeks and everyone was afraid to attack as Hornets dropped like Flies.

I can't say 100% but an obvious look in hindsight lead me to believe the "fix" was they just lowered all the consumption rates. They must have done something else too as that fix was as easy as them pushing another data set like the did the other day.

I spot checked quite a few and in general around the time of the fix I found they modified/lowered the consumption rates. 50% on high end Valor like the Super Hornets, Stealth Frigates. 20-40% for all lower valor and cash units. Loot I didn't see change at all. So the data from the old TrampStamp is not accurate, but in general the units didn't really change as they all seemed to go down by the same range, thus gameplay and strategy wasn't affected much.

I really haven't seen them make any huge changes since, so this type of modification to consumption values is not common but can be doen at any time. Remember a few cash units have been added since the real old days too along with PVP rank valor units, boosts, new buildings, etc. So strategy is not something you use long term in this game. Short term yes and as I always say adapt to new conditions and be ready for change. Don't put 100% units in sea or air, just because that is the strongest attack or defense at this time. Anything can change and I would rather like to have a blanaced army IMO to allowe me better addapt than all my eggs in one basket.

Now that question is answered, I won't go off topic further. Any questions on this PM me. Back to Trivia.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 09:12 AM
me too ! how many builings can you own with no gold spent ? money and defence no tapjoy

The Answer is 104. LOL

I know I've been stuck there for months and we repeatedly asked them to add new buildings. Wildfire brought this up a long time ago. Free players are always stuck on goals becuase of this. I was they released new content, then just hit the next impossible wall.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?23427-Build-100-Buildings-impossible-as-a-free-player

Thief
10-18-2012, 09:12 AM
me too ! how many builings can you own with no gold spent ? money and defence no tapjoy

So Excluding Unit and Boost Buildings? (just Money and Defense Builldings?)

90?

Adding Unit and Boosts that would come out to 103?

Edit: Guess Mav already knew the Answer....I was just trying to quickly add them in my head

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 09:14 AM
Question: Another consumption rate related on. Out of the top 10 Cash and Valor units, how many do you think are Sea? It has been argued for long time that UK/Sea is the best option for a "free player" wanting defense and minimize losses. Is it really?

Answer: 8 of the top 10.

Unit Name Consumption Rate
Nuclear Sub 0.000603
Aircraft Carrier 0.00067
Battleship 0.000737
Destroyer 0.000871
Stealth Surveillance Drone 0.00108
Mine-Launcher 0.001206
Stealth Frigate 0.00125
Railgun Destroyer 0.00134
Amphibious Hovercraft 0.001407
Apache Helicopter 0.0014405

Winner: Miner

Thief
10-18-2012, 09:18 AM
Question: Another consumption rate related on. Out of the top 10 Cash and Valor units, how many do you think are Sea? It has been argued for long time that UK/Sea is the best option for a "free player" wanting defense and minimize losses. Is it really?

Answer: To be announced.
Winner: To be announced.


Honestly i wish i knew....but i would guess 6?

Where can i get the Current Spreadsheet of Consumption Rates Anyways? I would love to see it.

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 09:18 AM
Boost included , not 105 I'm sure of answer as I have build 125 buildings goal and I only have 4 gold ones to take off.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 09:22 AM
So Excluding Unit and Boost Buildings? (just Money and Defense Builldings?)

90?

Adding Unit and Boosts that would come out to 103?

Edit: Guess Mav already knew the Answer....I was just trying to quickly add them in my head
Just because I have to see that stupid Build 125 Buildings 107/125 in my goals every day. I'm a free player and have every cash building available. Plus 2 Gold Solar Arrays and 1 Composistes I got with tapjoy.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 09:24 AM
Boost included , not 105 I'm sure of answer as I have build 125 buildings goal and I only have 4 gold ones to take off.
Ah you saw that. Yes I put in 105 originally as a typo and corrected it. I knew too as I have to take my 3 off.

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 09:31 AM
Yes 104 correct!

boardgames rule
10-18-2012, 09:33 AM
I would say 7 ships

Thief
10-18-2012, 09:34 AM
Just because I have to see that stupid Build 125 Buildings 107/125 in my goals every day. I'm a free player and have every cash building available. Plus 2 Gold Solar Arrays and 1 Composistes I got with tapjoy.

I'm trying to not cheat by looking this up....but can it be an even number?
45 Defense Buildings
8 Unit Buildings
5 Boost Buildings
2 of each Cash Buildings (I was thinking 44) + 1 command Center
What am i missing?

EDIT: GRRRRR I realized i forgot about the hospital.....Stupid thing probably doesn't even work haha

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 09:46 AM
Lol that's funny thief , it says I have 108 buildings in goals minus 3 emp and comp factory is 104 .

Miner
10-18-2012, 09:47 AM
Question: Another consumption rate related on. Out of the top 10 Cash and Valor units, how many do you think are Sea? It has been argued for long time that UK/Sea is the best option for a "free player" wanting defense and minimize losses. Is it really?

Answer: To be announced.
Winner: To be announced.


I'm going to guess 8. I know the SSD and the Apache are decent, but I think that's about it. I don't believe any valor units fall into the top 10... Maybe the Stealth Frigate does.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 09:49 AM
I will just say Higher.

Miner
10-18-2012, 09:52 AM
I will just say Higher.

Then it's 9. I know the SSD is in the top 10.

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 09:53 AM
I will say 10

boardgames rule
10-18-2012, 09:53 AM
9 then? extra

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 10:05 AM
I'm going to guess 8. I know the SSD and the Apache are decent, but I think that's about it. I don't believe any valor units fall into the top 10... Maybe the Stealth Frigate does.
Winner again. I may have to exclude you from these questions. You've seen my data I know. You've "mined" a bunch of info I know and analyzed units for a while. You even guessed the 2 that weren't sea in the top 10!!! You are wrong though on one thing The Stealth Frigate snuck in as #5 and is the only valor unit in the top10. But even I have to look that up. I knew the % of the top ten a month ago myself because I was trying to decide whether to switch from US to UK or Russia. I'll post the top ten in my question thread in a minute once I go back to look up the info.

Everyone's favorite Super Hornet and Elite Water Cruiser are tied for #11 I know.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 10:06 AM
Then it's 9. I know the SSD is in the top 10.Sorry My higher response was to Boardgamesrule. You are just too good.

boardgames rule
10-18-2012, 10:14 AM
Next question?

Chris1324
10-18-2012, 10:22 AM
Is there a difference in consumption rate between apple and android unit users?

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 10:24 AM
How about a fun easy one that some new people may not know.

Question: How do you access the "MW Asteroids" easter egg hidden in the game?

Answer: Toggle the SOUND FX under Settings at least 6x in rapid succession.

Winner: Corsair and Tctiger

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 10:25 AM
No both users have the same lifespan unless one of the devices have been in a radioactive goo.

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 10:27 AM
Change settings 10 times

Corsair
10-18-2012, 10:29 AM
Change settings 10 timesTo be specific, it's the FX volume toggle. And I think it's only 6 times.

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 10:30 AM
Learn something new everyday ...

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 10:30 AM
Fx 10 times

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 10:31 AM
Is there a difference in consumption rate between apple and android unit users?
Good question and I don't have an answer to that one since I don't have a droid. Is it a Trivia question that you are ready with the answer to? If not maybe we should post it here as not to go too far off topic. http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?36394-RANDOM-quot-quickie-quot-QUESTIONS
I would like to know though, I know a few who might know but I have never thought about it. They SHOULD be and BETTER be since Droid and IOS play against each other, or else it would be a major design flaw on Gree's part IMO.

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 10:33 AM
Lmao. Whose faces are those on the asteroids thing? And yeah Corsair was right, toggle the option 6 times.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 10:44 AM
Fx 10 timesOnly 6x for me, but may be time based and in addition to count. I'll have to give this one to Corsair for being specific to the Sound FX as the others don't do anything in my experience, but Tctiger was quick on the draw. So let's call it a tie.

Others can post some MW Trivia too. I don't want to hog it all, I just wanted to get the ball rolling and people "thinking" to help their strategies. Knowledge is power and the hidden purpose of my thread. Meant to challenge the mind outside of the box. Most people never know that consumption values are sometimes different than the descriptive vlaues like I pointed out in my first question. Education.


Value of Asteroids? Pass the time while waiting for that next upgrade or boss to come ready. LOL

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 10:53 AM
Lmao. Whose faces are those on the asteroids thing? And yeah Corsair was right, toggle the option 6 times.
I don't know that for sure. Supposedly some of the original MW game devs. But they of course never confirmed or gave names for privacy. I think many asked CCM. Hello Kitty might know. I learned of the Easter Egg from her. There could be others, but is the only one I know of personally at this time.

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 11:07 AM
This one might be too difficult:

What date were the first weekly LE's released? Bonus points for naming the units.

(If no one gets it after a few guesses, just the month is fine too).

Lt. Falcon
10-18-2012, 11:19 AM
This one might be too difficult:

What date were the first weekly LE's released? Bonus points for naming the units.

(If no one gets it after a few guesses, just the month is fine too).

wasn't in January and wasn't the high end unit the item that resembled "Robo-cop" enforcement droid "ED-209"

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 11:26 AM
wasn't in January and wasn't the high end unit the item that resembled "Robo-cop" enforcement droid "ED-209"

The Robot Walker? There were 5 LE sets out before that (hint).

Lt. Falcon
10-18-2012, 11:36 AM
The Robot Walker? There were 5 LE sets out before that (hint).

Yes, as a popular belief was that the Robot Walker was something from Star Wars, it in fact was an identical replica of ED-209 from Robo-Cop (see Yahoo images under "ED-209"). Five weeks, would have put the first LE units out the week after Thanksgiving which is the last week of November.

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Yes, as a popular belief was that the Robot Walker was something from Star Wars, it in fact was an identical replica of ED-209 from Robo-Cop (see Yahoo images under "ED-209"). Five weeks, would have put the first LE units out the week after Thanksgiving which is the last week of November.

Oh haha, yeah I recognize the ED-209 now. It went a little ballistic during its board-room meeting.

A couple of those 5 sets were released days apart, so not necessarily 5 sets in 5 weeks.

Lt. Falcon
10-18-2012, 11:53 AM
Oh haha, yeah I recognize the ED-209 now. It went a little ballistic during its board-room meeting.

A couple of those 5 sets were released days apart, so not necessarily 5 sets in 5 weeks.

Then the final answer would be December...guess 3rd times a charm.

Maverick50727
10-18-2012, 11:54 AM
This one might be too difficult:

What date were the first weekly LE's released? Bonus points for naming the units.

(If no one gets it after a few guesses, just the month is fine too).
I guessed early December but had to look. This should be it right?

12-07-11

Desert Runner
Exoskeleton
Laser Aircraft

Mad
10-18-2012, 11:55 AM
Lmao. Whose faces are those on the asteroids thing? And yeah Corsair was right, toggle the option 6 times.

Ok I toggle 6 times then 10 and nothing happened. What are we supposed to be seeing?

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 11:59 AM
Yeah you guys are right. Lift Ticket got the month right and the bonus points go to Mav.

Mad, you toggle the option off/on or on/off 6 times for a total of 12 clicks.

Lt. Falcon
10-18-2012, 12:03 PM
Ok I toggle 6 times then 10 and nothing happened. What are we supposed to be seeing?

A game inside a game, You control an arrow that is supposed to be a space ship that moves & turns around and shoot at heads (asteroids) that are floating around in space. I can't get past lvl 4, but then again, I've only played it like 5 times

Tctiger
10-18-2012, 12:13 PM
I found an old trampstamp thread with a link to someone who posted the easter egg on cc It works on there too .

Lt. Falcon
10-18-2012, 12:22 PM
I found an old trampstamp thread with a link to someone who posted the easter egg on cc It works on there too .

there is a different game in KA as well doing the sound fx toggle as well

Miner
10-18-2012, 12:26 PM
Winner again. I may have to exclude you from these questions. You've seen my data I know. You've "mined" a bunch of info I know and analyzed units for a while. You even guessed the 2 that weren't sea in the top 10!!! You are wrong though on one thing The Stealth Frigate snuck in as #5 and is the only valor unit in the top10. But even I have to look that up. I knew the % of the top ten a month ago myself because I was trying to decide whether to switch from US to UK or Russia. I'll post the top ten in my question thread in a minute once I go back to look up the info.

Everyone's favorite Super Hornet and Elite Water Cruiser are tied for #11 I know.

Yes, you know the tricks I've done with "mining" the data. I happen to have been looking at casualty rates pretty intensely a couple weeks ago so it was fresh in my mind.

You're right about the Stealth Frigate. Though you have to give me at least a little credit for suggesting that it MIGHT be in the top 10.

Dr. Dengus
10-18-2012, 12:27 PM
there is a different game in KA as well doing the sound fx toggle as well

Haha you're right, it's kind of like a variation of brick breaker. Wonder if anyone on the KA side even knows about this ...

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 12:16 AM
Question: Is is XMAS already?

Answer: Yes. Yes it is. My early gift to the form members. I have now published my Modern War Master Resource Sheet (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40885-Modern-War-Master-Resource-Sheet). Thanks to all who helped in its creation.

Winner: The Forum

Alaska Ken
10-19-2012, 12:38 AM
Question: Is is XMAS already?

Answer: Yes. Yes it is. My gift early gift to the form members. I have now published my Modern War Master Resource Sheet (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40885-Modern-War-Master-Resource-Sheet). Thanks to all who helped in its creation.

Winner: The Forum

Thanks for all the work you put into this maverick !

Hivesy
10-19-2012, 04:46 AM
Mav you are such a star. Thanks man. Will look at the sheet now, never knew about the asteroids game and I've been playing this since Feb! Best thread for months...

Tctiger
10-19-2012, 08:21 AM
they should do someting like this for the gold give aways instead of poetry .

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 08:43 AM
BEEEEP!!! This is a test of Emergency Maverick System. You may use my Modern War Master Resource Sheet (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40885-Modern-War-Master-Resource-Sheet) to find the answers. I don't expect people to know this off the top of their heads. But since you get to use a cheat sheet this time you will have multiple parts. Repeat this is only a test.

AND MINER GETS TO SIT THIS ONE OUT!!! LOL

Questions:
1.) How many locations can the the loot item Aquatic Exploerer 40A/38D be found?
2.) What is the range of required user levels to unlock thoses locations?
3.) What is the earliest Mission that can be farmed for under 1,000 total energy and what is the drop rate there for the AE?

Answers:
1.) 11 (9 from regular missions, 2 from top bosses see response below)
2.) 87+ or 87-120
3.) Pirate Cove, Stone Hut 33% (I'll confirm I got a few from there myself a long time ago)

Winner: albeezy

Miner
10-19-2012, 08:47 AM
AND MINER GETS TO SIT THIS ONE OUT!!! LOL


Darn. I was ready to go with the answer.

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 09:02 AM
Darn. I was ready to go with the answer.
Play nice with all the other boys and girls to give them a chance. If they don't come back, you may still get your chance. LOL

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 09:14 AM
they should do someting like this for the gold give aways instead of poetry .
That would be cool, though I would probably never win as I'm always fashionably late to the party due to restricted time in the forum. Miner and I probably can answer most unit style questions, but who is quickest on the draw and always in the forum would come out on top.

Purpose of this thread is multifold: Entertainment. Edcuation. Advertisement.

You seem to enjoy it. See if you can answer the question first this time. Purpose this time is all 3. Hope to generate some interest in the sheets and demonstrate the type of information you can get.

albeezy
10-19-2012, 11:33 AM
Answers are in color


BEEEEP!!! This is a test of Emergency Maverick System. You may use my Modern War Master Resource Sheet (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40885-Modern-War-Master-Resource-Sheet) to find the answers. I don't expect people to know this off the top of their heads. But since you get to use a cheat sheet this time you will have multiple parts. Repeat this is only a test.

AND MINER GETS TO SIT THIS ONE OUT!!! LOL

Questions:
1.) How many locations can the the loot item Aquatic Exploerer 40A/38D be found? 9
2.) What is the range of required user levels to unlock thoses locations? 87+
3.) What is the earliest Mission that can be farmed for under 1,000 total energy and what is the drop rate there for the AE? Pirate Cove, Stone Hut, 33%

Answers: TBD

Winner: albeezy

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 12:41 PM
Answers are in color
I'll give it to you this time. But #1 is actually 11. Remember I don't have all 3 loot drops spcified on "Top Map Bosses" in the Missions sheet and you have to remember to look at the Bosses sheet to add those in also. Trick question kind of. AQ's are the .3 and .6 drops on Top Bosses Caribbean Straits\Admiral Philip Eno and Hidden Missile Base\Ghyslain Anselme respectively to make 11. (at least at this point in time from data set 20121017_1)

Also a point of note that in general if Top Map boss have very high stats liek over 100, then the first place that unit is available is a .1 drop on a Boss, then they can be found on later maps individually. The Aquatic Explorer never was a .1 drop as a top boss. Normally also the attack stats increase for each map as they progress, but Gree did a big jump at L87 for boss stats and skipped over the AQ 40A. The .1 drop for top boss increase like this 27, 31, 33, 99, 164, 228, 325... So if they hadn't made such a large jump from 33 - Aerospace Osprey to a 99 - Brigand Lightning, you colud have been wrong on the starting range in #2.

But overall, very good. The point was to help people see how to find the information in the sheets through the power of filters and you did just that. Congrats.

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 12:52 PM
Others, feel free to post your MW Trivia here. Just make sure you know the real answer up front as this is Trivia , not Q&A f you don't know. Maybe we will even let Miner play again. LOL.

Baraka
10-19-2012, 12:58 PM
I'd love to, if i knew any good enough,Maybe some easier questions for me.for example what Color was the chocolate submarine.

Ph4ntom Stranger
10-19-2012, 01:13 PM
I'd love to, if i knew any good enough,Maybe some easier questions for me.for example what Color was the chocolate submarine.

Lol Nice!

Awesome work Maverick! Unbelievable how much work you put into those spreadsheets and gathering all that info. I and hopefully everyone else greatly appreciates it. Thanks!

Arizona
10-19-2012, 02:16 PM
Maybe we will even let Miner play again. LOL.
No way...he knows too much.

Baraka
10-19-2012, 02:19 PM
No way...he knows too much.He does but has yet to answer my question lol. Everyone is stumped.

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 02:52 PM
I'd love to, if i knew any good enough,Maybe some easier questions for me.for example what Color was the chocolate submarine.

Trick question. It was GOLD like all LE's. LOL

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 02:56 PM
No way...he knows too much.
Maybe you guys should ask Trivia and try to stump Miner, Khimsoo and I. Between us 3 we have a lot covered in knowledge probably. I'm sure there are many more out there lurking too who would know the answers if we don't.

And I'm pretty sure the Chocolate Sub was "Chocolate" brown. Watchout out for when it surfaces near you. LOL

Baraka
10-19-2012, 02:57 PM
Trick question. It was GOLD like all LE's. LOLand your winner...... Maverick lol.

What were its stats then.I know ppl will get this just see who's first to the draw. Lol

bigflan
10-19-2012, 02:58 PM
Exactly which crate had the hind in it?

That's my beast question

I have more

Baraka
10-19-2012, 03:00 PM
Exactly which crate had the hind in it?

That's my beast question

I have morethe one in the middle

bigflan
10-19-2012, 03:00 PM
the one in the middle

You are incorrect

Where is maverick he does not know the answer to this

Baraka
10-19-2012, 03:02 PM
You are incorrect

Where is maverick he does not know the answer to thisone either side of the one in the middle.

bigflan
10-19-2012, 03:02 PM
one either side of the one in the middle.I'm asking the name of the crate the hind was in

Baraka
10-19-2012, 03:08 PM
I'm asking the name of the crate the hind was inwell it shows how much I know. Didn't know the crates had names.

bigflan
10-19-2012, 03:08 PM
well it shows how much I know. Didn't know the crates had names.Where is somebody Taft can actually answer this

Poopenshire
10-19-2012, 03:11 PM
was it the cold war crates?

Baraka
10-19-2012, 03:14 PM
Aaagh yeah I remember the names now. Lol.

Corsair
10-19-2012, 06:50 PM
BEEEEP!!! This is a test of Emergency Maverick System. You may use my Modern War Master Resource Sheet (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40885-Modern-War-Master-Resource-Sheet) to find the answers. I don't expect people to know this off the top of their heads. But since you get to use a cheat sheet this time you will have multiple parts. Repeat this is only a test.

AND MINER GETS TO SIT THIS ONE OUT!!! LOL

Questions:
1.) How many locations can the the loot item Aquatic Exploerer 40A/38D be found?
2.) What is the range of required user levels to unlock thoses locations?
3.) What is the earliest Mission that can be farmed for under 1,000 total energy and what is the drop rate there for the AE?

Answers:
1.) 11 (9 from regular missions, 2 from top bosses see response below)
2.) 87+ or 87-120
3.) Pirate Cove, Stone Hut 33% (I'll confirm I got a few from there myself a long time ago)

Winner: albeezyGood question Mav, very useful info as I just unlocked Pirate Cove. Still trying to find time to dig deeper into the spreadsheets, they are a gold mine.

Maverick50727
10-19-2012, 06:54 PM
Since I'm a free player in game and have never bought or even looked at a single crate, I'll have to defer to maybe Miner.

If you are asking me where you might find a Hind Mi-24 crate outside of the game I would say try here:
Московский вертолётный завод им. М.Л. Миля

EDIT: That would be Russian for the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant where they are made. I've sure you can find parts of them in crates there. LOL

Maverick50727
10-22-2012, 08:38 AM
Flan, I was away much of the weekend. I have a life. LOL.

Was Poop correct wth the Cold War Crates?

Anyone else have any good Triva for the masses that could be educational?

Miner
10-22-2012, 12:27 PM
Exactly which crate had the hind in it?

That's my beast question

I have more

This is a trick question. Or flan's an idiot. One of the two...

There are 2 "hind" units. The first was a crate item released on 3/12/12 in crates called "War Crates". It was named the Hind Mi-24.

Do I get extra credit for providing an image of the crate?

http://static-cdn.modernwar-game.com/mwios/images/store/items_2x/ShippingCrateGreen.png

Do I get MORE extra credit for including the image of the Hind Mi-24?

http://static-cdn.modernwar-game.com/mwios/images/store/items_2x/HindMI24.png

The other, the "Super Hind", was the rare LE drop from the LE Set released in the 7/17/2012 data set.

I should get tons of credit for including this image also.

http://static-cdn.modernwar-game.com/mwios/images/store/items_2x/SuperHind.png

Miner
10-22-2012, 12:38 PM
Questions:
1) What CRATE loot item has the highest combined stats?

HINT: Two units are tied for first place.

5 bonus points (of absolutely no value) goes to the person who can also tell the names of the crates these 2 items were in.

Answers:
1.)
Oceanic Destroyer 222A/228D combined stats 450: Red Steel Crates
Combat Catamaran 213A/237D combined stats 450: Black Ops Crates

Winner:

Miner
10-22-2012, 12:38 PM
I'll give you one extra hint... they're both SEA units!

MadManDK
10-22-2012, 12:50 PM
I'm guessing, but how about the Deep Sea Dreadnought with combined 440 and the other would be the Sentry Destroyer. Don't remember the crates though.

Miner
10-22-2012, 12:56 PM
I'm guessing, but how about the Deep Sea Dreadnought with combined 440 and the other would be the Sentry Destroyer. Don't remember the crates though.

Those two units came out of the Nuclear Weapons Crates and Camouflaged crates (respectively). While impressive is their stats, they are NOT the highest combined. In fact, they tie for number 7.

MadManDK
10-22-2012, 01:13 PM
Impressive how you know about all the crates. I assume you have taken pictures over time, as I don't think this data is available anywhere, but still very impressive.

Anyhow, if it's not those, than it can almost only be the Arctic Destroyer and the Guardian Battleship with combined stats of 500 (each). I actually thought the Guardian Battleship was from something other than a create, but they are the only ones that match up. Still a guess though and my last.

Baraka
10-22-2012, 01:20 PM
Miners like the Holy Grail of MW. His knowledge is endless.

My guess is the flancraft carrier. Lol.

Miner
10-22-2012, 01:22 PM
Neither of those items came from crates. I'll have to check the origin of these tomorrow and let you know where they came from. Very good guesses though.

Miner
10-22-2012, 01:33 PM
Miners like the Holy Grail of MW. His knowledge is endless. My guess is the flancraft carrier. Lol.Thanks Baraka. I just know where to look and what to look for!

Baraka
10-22-2012, 01:41 PM
Thanks Baraka. I just know where to look and what to look for!Ive been trying to think of any possible question you might not know. I don't think there is one though. Lol.

albeezy
10-22-2012, 01:46 PM
I am beginning to think this thread is a way for Maverick and Miner to PIMP their wares on everyone with the spreadsheets by Maverick and the Crate/LE/Event threads by Miner. You guys are sneaky and educational!

Oh and the unit is the admirAL BEEZY's Destroyer a conceptual design unit with 14,568/16,992 stats that was designed for the exclusive line of Solid Gold Crates, a line exclusively designed for only the highest of gold spenders. The crate line was never formally released due to problems with the ship's BOOSTers not working. The maiden voyoage of the Destroyer ended in disaster when the ship's BOOSTers were engaged. Shortly after the ship disappeared and the Solid Gold Crate line was never released. The last known picture of the Destroyer is shown below.
http://ban.org/ban_news/2010/images/101213_huge_bill_and_lost_jobs_pic1.jpg

Zoltarov
10-22-2012, 01:51 PM
Oceanic Destroyer 222A/228D combined stats 450: Red Steel Crates
Combat Catamaran 213A/237D combined stats 450: Black Ops Crates

Baraka
10-22-2012, 01:51 PM
I am beginning to think this thread is a way for Maverick and Miner to PIMP their wares on everyone with the spreadsheets by Maverick and the Crate/LE/Event threads by Miner. You guys are sneaky and educational!

Oh and the unit is the admirAL BEEZY's Destroyer a conceptual design unit with 14,568/16,992 stats that was designed for the exclusive line of Solid Gold Crates, a line exclusively designed for only the highest of gold spenders. The crate line was never formally released due to problems with the ship's BOOSTers not working. The maiden voyoage of the Destroyer ended in disaster when the ship's BOOSTers were engaged. Shortly after the ship disappeared and the Solid Gold Crate line was never released. The last known picture of the Destroyer is shown below.
http://ban.org/ban_news/2010/images/101213_huge_bill_and_lost_jobs_pic1.jpgsee that was gunna be my next answer.

Maverick50727
10-22-2012, 02:33 PM
I am beginning to think this thread is a way for Maverick and Miner to PIMP their wares on everyone with the spreadsheets by Maverick and the Crate/LE/Event threads by Miner. You guys are sneaky and educational!

Oh and the unit is the admirAL BEEZY's Destroyer a conceptual design unit with 14,568/16,992 stats that was designed for the exclusive line of Solid Gold Crates, a line exclusively designed for only the highest of gold spenders. The crate line was never formally released due to problems with the ship's BOOSTers not working. The maiden voyoage of the Destroyer ended in disaster when the ship's BOOSTers were engaged. Shortly after the ship disappeared and the Solid Gold Crate line was never released. The last known picture of the Destroyer is shown below.
http://ban.org/ban_news/2010/images/101213_huge_bill_and_lost_jobs_pic1.jpg

Yes, yes it is. I created this before posting my spreadheet though an Miner had no idea I was creating the Triva Thread. It is just up his alley with Mining Data. I started the thread to get people "thinking" instead of just asking questions. That was why I started off with education ones. When I released my sheet I did use it to Advertise it and then again later to demonstrate to people how to use it to find certain info and a few passed the tests. I provided people the tools/info, instructions how to use it and the medium to grow.

I stated some of the multi purposes above: "Purpose of this thread is multifold: Entertainment. Edcuation. Advertisement. You seem to enjoy it. See if you can answer the question first this time. Purpose this time is all 3. Hope to generate some interest in the sheets and demonstrate the type of information you can get. "

There is a hidden agenda also I admit which is not mentioned and you know in PM. I won't advetise that one as the primary purpose of this thread and the spreadsheets are to educate. The hidden agenda is more of a result. This thread and sheets are just phases in an overall plan of attack which I hope will result in better gameplay and forum environment for us all.

albeezy
10-22-2012, 02:53 PM
The spreadsheet is a mist read especially if you are fortunate enough to have an energy boost

Miner
10-22-2012, 03:06 PM
Oceanic Destroyer 222A/228D combined stats 450: Red Steel CratesCombat Catamaran 213A/237D combined stats 450: Black Ops CratesDING DING DING!!! That is correct. Well done Zolt. Now, share with all the people how you arrived at your answer.

bigflan
10-22-2012, 03:29 PM
This is a trick question. Or flan's an idiot. One of the two...

There are 2 "hind" units. The first was a crate item released on 3/12/12 in crates called "War Crates". It was named the Hind Mi-24.

Do I get extra credit for providing an image of the crate?

http://static-cdn.modernwar-game.com/mwios/images/store/items_2x/ShippingCrateGreen.png

Do I get MORE extra credit for including the image of the Hind Mi-24?

http://static-cdn.modernwar-game.com/mwios/images/store/items_2x/HindMI24.png

The other, the "Super Hind", was the rare LE drop from the LE Set released in the 7/17/2012 data set.

I should get tons of credit for including this image also.

http://static-cdn.modernwar-game.com/mwios/images/store/items_2x/SuperHind.png

You are correct

Wow that stumped people
And it was not a trick question

Zoltarov
10-22-2012, 03:29 PM
I am still using KOD's sheet, which has a tab with all the crate items and stats. I had to crack the code because i was unable to add new units. Using the sheet mostly to look for my lowest into battle and defense units.

I do not own both items but they would fit perfect in my units. perhaps they will come again as some of this week crate items were released before. (turbo jumpjet: WWII Crates).

Miner
10-23-2012, 05:41 AM
Impressive how you know about all the crates. I assume you have taken pictures over time, as I don't think this data is available anywhere, but still very impressive.

Anyhow, if it's not those, than it can almost only be the Arctic Destroyer and the Guardian Battleship with combined stats of 500 (each). I actually thought the Guardian Battleship was from something other than a create, but they are the only ones that match up. Still a guess though and my last.

OK - I looked up where these two units came from MadManDK.

The Arctic Destroyer was the Uncommon bonus item released in the LE set on 6/4/12.

The Guardian Battleship was the Uncommon bonus item released in the LE set on 7/17/12.

Maverick50727
10-24-2012, 08:08 AM
Just keeping it going.

Questions:
1.) What is the number of "Top Bosses" on all maps released currently today (10/24/12)?

2.) What are the drops rates for the "Top Bosses"?

3.) Bonus points for the current total of all PVE missions including bosses.

If you really want to list them all you can, but I won't double check. LOL

Answers:
1.) 54/55 (see explanation below to albeezy)T
2.) Rare 10%, Uncommon 30%, Common 60% (If you consider Insurgent Leader as a boss then 100% for that one)
3.) 979 total missions in the 20121017_1/20121023_1 data sets

Winner: albeezy

albeezy
10-24-2012, 08:15 AM
Just keeping it going.

Questions:
1.) What is the number of "Top Bosses" on all maps released currently today (10/24/12)?

2.) What are the drops rates for the "Top Bosses"?

3.) Bonus points for the current total of all PVE missions including bosses.

If you really want to list them all you can, but I won't double check. LOL

Answers: TBD

Winner: TDB

1-55?
2-60/30/10 except for the insurgent camp boss = 100%
3-1034?

MadManDK
10-24-2012, 08:25 AM
OK - I looked up where these two units came from MadManDK.

The Arctic Destroyer was the Uncommon bonus item released in the LE set on 6/4/12.

The Guardian Battleship was the Uncommon bonus item released in the LE set on 7/17/12.

Thanks Miner, would love to know where you look it up. And yes I admit it, I was way wrong and Zolt rules. ;-)

Maverick50727
10-24-2012, 08:55 AM
1-55?
2-60/30/10 except for the insurgent camp boss = 100%
3-1034?
Close but wrong on 1 and 3. You have to think about it again and look at my spreadsheet closer. I see what you did and I made #1 a trick question to teach. You could be right on #1 depending on how you look at it and your comments in #2.

albeezy
10-24-2012, 09:10 AM
Okay if you don't want to count the insurgent leader then 54 for number 1

Maverick50727
10-24-2012, 09:25 AM
Okay if you don't want to count the insurgent leader then 54 for number 1
Yes #1 is a fine line. I don't count it as is doesn't have the .1,.3,.6 but still can be a boss. It only has one hit required. Gree defines any mission with more than one hit as a "boss" in their data files. That is why I say "Top Boss" for each map. The insurgent leader could be considered a boss even though it is only 1 hit, has the same energy required as a the Mud House, since it is the only mission on the first mapo to payout 2 XP.

For number 3, I'll give it to you with this explanation. You took the 979 missions from my mission sheet and added the 54/55 bosses to it to get your number. Remember I do already have rows in the Missions sheet for the top boss so they are included in the 979, you just have have to cross referrence to my Bosses sheet to find the 3 drops define there.

albeezy
10-24-2012, 09:32 AM
For number 3, I'll give it to you with this explanation. You took the 979 missions from my mission sheet and added the 54/55 bosses to it to get your number. Remember I do already have rows in the Missions sheet for the top boss so they are included in the 979, you just have have to cross referrence to my Bosses sheet to find the 3 drops define there.

Forgot about that!

Miner
10-24-2012, 02:23 PM
OK. Here's another one.

Question:

1) As of 10/24/12, how many Limited Edition units exist (not including bonus LE items)?
2) As of 10/24/12, how many limited edition set bonus units exist?
3) As of 10/24/12, which unit type (infantry, ground, air, sea) has the MOST LE Bonus units? HINT: 3 unit types are tied for 2nd place.
4) How many times have they re-used LE images?

Answers:
1)
2)
3)
4)

Winner:

albeezy
10-24-2012, 02:27 PM
OK. Here's another one.

Question:

1) As of 10/24/12, how many Limited Edition units exist (not including bonus LE items)?
2) As of 10/24/12, how many limited edition set bonus units exist?

Answers:
1)
2)

Winner:

Just guessing
Answers:
1) 44?
2) 18 units?

Miner
10-24-2012, 02:35 PM
Just guessing
Answers:
1) 44?
2) 18 units?

Nope. Higher. Both answers should be higher... oh, and I added a 3rd question while you were typing your answer... And I'm adding a 4th.

Al Murkya
10-24-2012, 02:39 PM
Who currently owns all the water on the map, and, is handsdown retarded for doing such?

Miner
10-24-2012, 02:42 PM
Who currently owns all the water on the map, and, is handsdown retarded for doing such?

I'd be more impressed if you had expanded to open up all the land.

Baraka
10-24-2012, 02:42 PM
Who currently owns all the water on the map, and, is handsdown retarded for doing such?haha it sure looks damn cool though.lol.

Baraka
10-24-2012, 02:47 PM
I'd be more impressed if you had expanded to open up all the land.Heres a question I don't know the answer to but you might know. If u expanded all the land and water. How much would the last expansion be.

Miner
10-24-2012, 02:59 PM
Heres a question I don't know the answer to but you might know. If u expanded all the land and water. How much would the last expansion be.

I think the total size of the land is 15x15. I'll dig to see if I can determine if that's accurate and if so, how much the last square would cost.

Baraka
10-24-2012, 03:01 PM
I think the total size of the land is 15x15. I'll dig to see if I can determine if that's accurate and if so, how much the last square would cost.sweet. I'm sure you will find it some where. I recon it will be like 80 million.

Miner
10-24-2012, 03:12 PM
The highest recorded in the forums looks to be 61 squares. That one cost $32mil (increased $2mil from the previous). So if the 15x15 is right (read that in a forum post), then there's a total of 225 sqaures. $80 mil is too low if that's the case!

This information is not in the game files anywhere. At least not that I've seen.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?20455-Modern-War-base-expansion-cost

Dr. Dengus
10-24-2012, 03:12 PM
You're crazy Miner, that question will take some serious item.plist digging to answer lol.

Baraka
10-24-2012, 03:15 PM
The highest recorded in the forums looks to be 61 squares. That one cost $32mil (increased $2mil from the previous). So if the 15x15 is right (read that in a forum post), then there's a total of 225 sqaures. $80 mil is too low if that's the case!

This information is not in the game files anywhere. At least not that I've seen.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?20455-Modern-War-base-expansion-costwow we talkin 100s of millions. I think we should ask Ferr to test it for us lol.

Miner
10-24-2012, 03:17 PM
You're crazy Miner, that question will take some serious item.plist digging to answer lol.

You'll need more than that...

Dr. Dengus
10-24-2012, 03:19 PM
You'll need more than that...

Well except for the matching the images part lol.

189 total LE's have been released excluding the LE set bonus items.

Baraka
10-24-2012, 03:20 PM
I still think we should ask Ferr. Sure he will game. Lol.

Miner
10-24-2012, 03:24 PM
Well except for the matching the images part lol.

189 total LE's have been released excluding the LE set bonus items.

Dengus -- your number is close. An indication that it isn't right is that it isn't divisible by 4... HINT: It's higher than 189.

Dr. Dengus
10-24-2012, 03:40 PM
There were LE sets released early on with only 3 items, and not the usual 4. Too lazy to go back and double check at the moment lol. But for question #2 there have been 17 LE set bonuses for a total of 51 units. With "air" being the most used. And now I think that answer is wrong too since you said 3 unit types are tied for 2nd, which disagrees with my #'s.

edit:


OK. Here's another one.

Question:

1) As of 10/24/12, how many Limited Edition units exist (not including bonus LE items)?
2) As of 10/24/12, how many limited edition set bonus units exist?
3) As of 10/24/12, which unit type (infantry, ground, air, sea) has the MOST LE Bonus units? HINT: 3 unit types are tied for 2nd place.
4) How many times have they re-used LE images?

Answers:
1) 192
2) 51
3) Air
4) How many of the 51 set bonus units are recycled images? Or how many of the total LE unit images (243 if I'm correct) have been recycled?

Winner:

Miner
10-24-2012, 03:58 PM
There were LE sets released early on with only 3 items, and not the usual 4. Too lazy to go back and double check at the moment lol. But for question #2 there have been 17 LE set bonuses for a total of 51 units. With "air" being the most used. And now I think that answer is wrong too since you said 3 unit types are tied for 2nd, which disagrees with my #'s.

edit:

#1 and 3 are correct.

#2 is close.

Question 4 is asking how many of the LE images been re-used for other LE's. I realize that wasn't worded well. It's actually a fairly small number.

If you're interested in knowing, images used for LE's have been used for non-LE units 211 times.

Dr. Dengus
10-24-2012, 04:03 PM
Ahh, well you stumped me on #3. I have the LE set bonuses going from 7-2 to 10-24 (this week) for a total of 17 weeks and 51 units. And I'll pass #4 on to someone else lol. Want to say 0 or else they wouldn't be limited units. But that just seems too obvious.

Miner
10-24-2012, 04:17 PM
Ahh, well you stumped me on #3. I have the LE set bonuses going from 7-2 to 10-24 (this week) for a total of 17 weeks and 51 units. And I'll pass #4 on to someone else lol. Want to say 0 or else they wouldn't be limited units. But that just seems too obvious.

While you are right that they have run weekly since 7/2, the first LE bonus set was actually published on 6/12. Making it a total of 18 LE sets for a total of 54 bonus items. Nice work though.

Interestingly enough, there are actually 12 LE items all listed as being in the same "set" and using this first group of LE bonus items.

Dr. Dengus
10-24-2012, 04:53 PM
While you are right that they have run weekly since 7/2, the first LE bonus set was actually published on 6/12. Making it a total of 18 LE sets for a total of 54 bonus items. Nice work though.

Interestingly enough, there are actually 12 LE items all listed as being in the same "set" and using this first group of LE bonus items.

Ahh, I did not know that about the 6/12 LE set. Looks like that was the week where the holy-grail unit was the Army of One. Lol I'm slow today, not sure if I understood what you meant. You're saying there was a set with 12 items listed, but only 7 of them were actually placed in-game?

Miner
10-24-2012, 05:18 PM
Ahh, I did not know that about the 6/12 LE set. Looks like that was the week where the holy-grail unit was the Army of One. Lol I'm slow today, not sure if I understood what you meant. You're saying there was a set with 12 items listed, but only 7 of them were actually placed in-game?

No, I'm saying that there are 3 sets of 4 units that all have the same set_id.