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Fun
10-05-2012, 10:12 AM
When I attack the boss I do 10016 and my real stats are 9901 its not much but just curios how this happens
I have no event items too.

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 10:13 AM
Probably factoring your attack skill points, mine is boosted by over 1000 :p

Fun
10-05-2012, 10:14 AM
Probably factoring your attack skill points, mine is boosted by over 1000 :p most likely your right, completely forgot about them.

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 11:21 AM
I'm getting screwed I wrote a ticket !!

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Patrick616
10-05-2012, 11:38 AM
I'm getting screwed I wrote a ticket !!

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I feel you bro! I never thought that the total damage dealt was your total attack. But it makes sense that it would be! If so I'm gonna file a HUGE ticket as well! If it is then we ALL have been deceived by Gree into believing some if the items are working (attack % modifiers)

Patrick616
10-05-2012, 11:40 AM
115 gold! About time for another vault! :)

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 11:45 AM
115 gold! About time for another vault! :)
Lol😂😂I'm grabbing 3 vaults when I get outta work! Stupid I iTunes will block me cuz I've already bought 3 so far this month 😳

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 11:47 AM
Do you have any attack boosting stat items? I don't have any, so i'm not sure if they show on the profile page or not. Maybe they aren't applying because it's not PvP

Paulio
10-05-2012, 12:08 PM
Luke, the reason why your attack on the boss is lower than the total mafia attack on your stats page is very likely due to certain items that boost your stats. For example, I'm guessing you are the proud owner of the Diamond Fists (+10% total mafia attack). This boost is not calculated into your attack on the boss.

I believe each attack skill point does 10 damage to the boss. So, I'm guessing you have approx. 263 attack skill points. Here's how I came to my conclusion (but since I'm making a few assumptions, I might be way off):

Total Mafia Attack on stats page: 137861
Factor out Diamond Fists: 137861/1.1 = 125328
Add effective att skill points: 263 x 10 = 2630

Damage to epic boss per hit: 125328 + 2630 = 127958

dudeman
10-05-2012, 12:14 PM
Are the "+X% TMA" modifiers supposed to be used against the boss? It sucks that they aren't, but I never saw anything that said they were supposed to be.

Mods like "+X% TMA/TMD" and "-mafia from rival", I just assumed were PvP only. Explains why the Skullcrusher Flail has no modifier effect during robberies, robberies aren't PvP.

My boss attack has always been profile attack + attack skill points * 10, so as far as my experience goes, that's completely normal. My profile doesn't account for the hit'n'runner though, so I think it's not used outside of PvP.

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Luke, the reason why your attack on the boss is lower than the total mafia attack on your stats page is very likely due to certain items that boost your stats. For example, I'm guessing you are the proud owner of the Diamond Fists (+10% total mafia attack). This boost is not calculated into your attack on the boss.

I believe each attack skill point does 10 damage to the boss. So, I'm guessing you have approx. 263 attack skill points. Here's how I came to my conclusion (but since I'm making a few assumptions, I might be way off):

Total Mafia Attack on stats page: 137861
Factor out Diamond Fists: 137861/1.1 = 125328
Add effective att skill points: 263 x 10 = 2630

Damage to epic boss per hit: 125328 + 2630 = 127958
Um yeah your exactly right thank you

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 12:23 PM
Do you have any attack boosting stat items? I don't have any, so i'm not sure if they show on the profile page or not. Maybe they aren't applying because it's not PvP

Lol you're welcome? :p

My work here is done :)

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 12:24 PM
Sucks tho that the fist doesn't work it'd b nice to have extra attack...side note some rivals see my attack at 10k shy to! I've battled support for months they say its a known problem that is being fixed😡 well it sure takes a long time to fix it then

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 12:25 PM
Lol you're welcome? :p

My work here is done :)
Sry thanks

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 12:25 PM
Sry thanks

Nah I don't care. For some reason a lot of people seem to ignore me when I post and I know the don't do it intentionally but I do know what I'm talking about ^^

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 12:37 PM
Nah I don't care. For some reason a lot of people seem to ignore me when I post and I know the don't do it intentionally but I do know what I'm talking about ^^
I wasn't ignoring I just missed yer post

Patrick616
10-05-2012, 12:40 PM
It still does not add up! What about the crazy hit n runner? I think that's the one that adds to vehicle attack. I also did not think diamond fists were factored into your attack score. Did you get a 10% attack boost on your profile when you received it?

Patrick616
10-05-2012, 12:44 PM
Why would the modifiers not work on the bosses?? It an "attack" boost! Your attacking the boss! If the items are factored into your attack then no reason why they should not work for bosses

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 12:48 PM
It still does not add up! What about the crazy hit n runner? I think that's the one that adds to vehicle attack. I also did not think diamond fists were factored into your attack score. Did you get a 10% attack boost on your profile when you received it?
Yes the attack boost was received a few days after I won the event... The stupid thing is some rivals see my attack the way I do the accurate amount and others see it 10k shy the amount the fist gave me.

Paulio
10-05-2012, 01:00 PM
It still does not add up! What about the crazy hit n runner? I think that's the one that adds to vehicle attack. I also did not think diamond fists were factored into your attack score. Did you get a 10% attack boost on your profile when you received it?

The crazy hit n runner SUPPOSEDLY adds +10 vehicle attack. This never showed up on the stats page or the fights results page, so it doesn't need to be factored out when calculating your attack on the boss.

The diamond fists aren't factored in to the damage per hit on the boss - that's exactly what we're saying.

If you own the diamond fists, I believe you are the only one who can see the effective stat increase on your stats page. Rivals and friends can't see the boost.


Why would the modifiers not work on the bosses?? It an "attack" boost! Your attacking the boss! If the items are factored into your attack then no reason why they should not work for bosses

"Anything is possible" -Crime City Mark

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 01:19 PM
I wasn't ignoring I just missed yer post

Is it because i'm short? D:

The crazy hit n' runner was an invisible bonus during the fight calculation :/

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 01:50 PM
Is it because i'm short? D:

The crazy hit n' runner was an invisible bonus during the fight calculation :/
Yes your a little virtual person lol 😂

Giedrius
10-05-2012, 02:00 PM
If modifiers don't work on boss so why the ones which boost attack skill points is working?
I have 2x 100 items and they work. I hit boss with my exact attack+ attack skill points x10. And that's include 200 reward points. My case: my attack 94837+204 Att skill x10= 96877.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm304/jord23astra/608EF913-0066-4911-81B5-9687CFDEA0CF-645-00000033AA33BAE6.jpg

Feng1234
10-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Hrmm. Is this attack the gold attack or the force attack? Because I use the force (cash) attack and I never hit as much as my full profile attack?

Patrick616
10-05-2012, 06:25 PM
If modifiers don't work on boss so why the ones which boost attack skill points is working?
I have 2x 100 items and they work. I hit boss with my exact attack+ attack skill points x10. And that's include 200 reward points. My case: my attack 94837+204 Att skill x10= 96877.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm304/jord23astra/608EF913-0066-4911-81B5-9687CFDEA0CF-645-00000033AA33BAE6.jpg


I thought the reward was obtained after beating him 40 times. I see from the pic you were on boss 42

Patrick616
10-05-2012, 06:27 PM
Hrmm. Is this attack the gold attack or the force attack? Because I use the force (cash) attack and I never hit as much as my full profile attack?

Hence the whole reason for this thread! For most of us the numbers do not add up as they should

dudeman
10-05-2012, 06:42 PM
Cash attack (force attack) is supposed to be profile attack + (attack skill points)*10.

Free attack (quick attack) does less than your profile attack. That's obvious, but I don't know anything else about it like exactly what percentage of your profile attack is used. It won't help me beat more bosses knowing that, so it doesn't matter.

Luke 3457
10-05-2012, 07:25 PM
I thought the reward was obtained after beating him 40 times. I see from the pic you were on boss 42
Yeah he's crazy strong for his level last time he spent minimal gold and beat over 50

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 07:31 PM
The reason why the item that modifies your skill points is because it is always applied in your profile. Attack skill point modifiers are used regardless of what you're up against, PvE or PvP. The attack modifier is only used during PvP.

If that makes sense... :p