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Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 12:19 PM
Five-days event - 3, 5, 7, 9 and 10 intervals for exclusive items.

http://i.imgur.com/f2rmT.png

http://i.imgur.com/15IlM.png

http://i.imgur.com/Mg4oZ.png

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 12:34 PM
Prize is pretty cool, I guess I won't be playing FF XIII-2 this week-end like I planned... ;)

SevenO9
10-04-2012, 12:36 PM
Reloaded dice?

AK-47
10-04-2012, 12:48 PM
Just because I'm too dumb to figure out how to re-size my screenshots properly, the top prize stats(level 100+ I'm guessing) are 219/139. With the same modifier of course.

Bala82
10-04-2012, 12:49 PM
I hate when members don't bother checking before repeat posting topics :(

Dr. Dengus
10-04-2012, 12:50 PM
Prize is pretty cool, I guess I won't be playing FF XIII-2 this week-end like I planned... ;)

Lol. Can always just pause FF every hr and open a box.

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 12:54 PM
I hate when members don't bother checking before repeat posting topics :(

I hate when members assume this is a repeat when obviously the 2 posts were posted simultaneously (there were screenshots to upload in MY thread, hence the 5 min difference)...


Lol. Can always just pause FF every hr and open a box.

Yeah I can probably do that :)

BigD@wg
10-04-2012, 12:58 PM
IOS or Android?

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 12:59 PM
Android-only I think. They give us old iOS events so I guess they're not repeating them on iOS. Thanks Gree btw!


Just because I'm too dumb to figure out how to re-size my screenshots properly, the top prize stats(level 100+ I'm guessing) are 219/139. With the same modifier of course.

On what OS are you? Paint is an easy way on windows...

BigD@wg
10-04-2012, 01:04 PM
Android-only I think. They give us old iOS events so I guess they're not repeating them on iOS. Thanks Gree btw!

Thanks... Thought I was missing out on something. Well I guess since I'm on IOS... I am. Lol!

kitzune
10-04-2012, 01:07 PM
Android-only I think. They give us old iOS events so I guess they're not repeating them on iOS. Thanks Gree btw!

Heh at least late Android people will get chance at the old IOS items..... Oh well maybe a year from now if I'm still playing.

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 01:10 PM
First one.

http://i.imgur.com/xDIXj.png

Only 9 left ^^

AK-47
10-04-2012, 01:20 PM
On what OS are you? Paint is an easy way on windows...
I run Vista. I was messin' around with them in paint, but gave up. I just don't know enough about the different file types & their sizes yet lol.

BigD@wg
10-04-2012, 01:22 PM
First one.

http://i.imgur.com/xDIXj.png

Only 9 left ^^


I don't know if you are free player or gold player but your best chances of getting 10 are within first 6-8 hours after event pops up. Yes it requires gold resets for energy refills to farm boxes and gold timer re-sets and gold opens. I am originally a MW player and one of forum members (McDoc) explains his method in a FAQ in MW forum. This may be common knowledge already and if so just ignore. Just wanted to share. It doesn't guarantee a win but all I can say is I have attempted it 3 times with his method and been successful all 3 times. All other events played for free and never got all 10. It got a little pricey on last one but oh well. :)

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm a free player (and will probably be for a long time), I'll try my luck with just cash. Thanks for the info though, I didn't know about that 'rush' technique.

JokerTooCold
10-04-2012, 01:38 PM
I have the same items from the last 10/10 event.. (perfect shot. Deadly cutter. Laser gun. Elite police armor ) and also my top prize is loaded dice 219/138
Anyone else got this??

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 01:40 PM
Progress Day 1 :
1- Gemstone
2- 300 RP
3- Better luck next time
4- Better luck next time

BigD@wg
10-04-2012, 01:41 PM
I'm a free player (and will probably be for a long time), I'll try my luck with just cash. Thanks for the info though, I didn't know about that 'rush' technique.

Free and in-game cash options are my future too. The rush technique seems to work because it seems more of the "collectibles" are available in the beginning of the event.

Johnnie Walker
10-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Where are you farming the boxes?what map? I am on level 22 and it looks like I will never find one.I've done jobs in Little Italy,Canal Street, but nothing...I cannot go to rob or attack others because I don't know which one is on android.And if I go on higher maps I'll jump few levels, and with my weaker stats...The same think happened on the last android event and I gave up. I ended up with tons of hammers not even good enough to brake my pinkies...Please help!

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 02:03 PM
Where are you farming the boxes?what map? I am on level 22 and it looks like I will never find one.I've done jobs in Little Italy,Canal Street, but nothing...I cannot go to rob or attack others because I don't know which one is on android.And if I go on higher maps I'll jump few levels, and with my weaker stats...The same think happened on the last android event and I gave up. I ended up with tons of hammers not even good enough to brake my pinkies...Please help!

I got 2 boxes in Chinatown-Teahouse but I think any job can drop boxes, for instance during the last 10/10 event on Android I got tons of crates at Civic Center-Mini Mart. As for attacking/robing people I think everybody (not just android users) can drop boxes. At least it was the case during the last event.

Harry Tuttle
10-04-2012, 02:06 PM
I could be wrong, but I think iOS users will drop safe deposit boxes because it was a previous iOS event and they still have the leftovers in their inventory. (Hidden after the event is over but still there)

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 02:20 PM
Got 3 more boxes from the teahouse in Chinatown (190 energy), it seems to be a good spot. And if you're lucky you'll get an armored police truck too :)

Johnnie Walker
10-04-2012, 02:22 PM
Thanks, but no luck....I've got 3 more hammers-Civic Center-Minimart, 10 attacks..I proudly say now that I have in my inventory 99 hammers..
I give up....

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 02:29 PM
Thanks, but no luck....I've got 3 more hammers-Civic Center-Minimart, 10 attacks..I proudly say now that I have in my inventory 99 hammers..
I give up....

Don't give up so easily. Sometimes you don't get anything for 1-2 hours and suddenly you get 5 boxes/crates. Also, attack laundromats 1 or 2 times and move to another target if nothing drops.

Harry Tuttle
10-04-2012, 02:32 PM
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40003-Am-I-Reading-This-Correctly

It might only be good data for iOS though....

Edit: Hey Pawn! You were responding at the same time that I was linking to your thread lol

PawnXIIX
10-04-2012, 02:32 PM
Thanks, but no luck....I've got 3 more hammers-Civic Center-Minimart, 10 attacks..I proudly say now that I have in my inventory 99 hammers..
I give up....

I calculated the drop rate at 2.1 crate drops per 1000 energy. Move onto a different job. You have a 2% chance of getting a box per tap.


http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40003-Am-I-Reading-This-Correctly

It might only be good data for iOS though....

Hey somebody does read my posts! I think that was for the upcoming invasions event style, the rates are different from these normal events entirely :p

Boof
10-04-2012, 02:36 PM
I have the same items from the last 10/10 event.. (perfect shot. Deadly cutter. Laser gun. Elite police armor ) and also my top prize is loaded dice 219/138
Anyone else got this??

Yep, that's exactly what I have.

Not getting any box drops from attacking players though. I got about 8 to drop while farming ECBs in Red Light District.

PawnXIIX
10-04-2012, 02:39 PM
Yep, that's exactly what I have.

Not getting any box drops from attacking players though. I got about 8 to drop while farming ECBs in Red Light District.

You won't get boxes dropping until players have them. Forum players are generally ahead of the curve by about 6 hours :p By the end of the first day, you should be getting a very steady supply of crates from players :)

Harry Tuttle
10-04-2012, 02:41 PM
I calculated the drop rate at 2.1 crate drops per 1000 energy. Move onto a different job. You have a 2% chance of getting a box per tap.



Hey somebody does read my posts! I think that was for the upcoming invasions event style, the rates are different from these normal events entirely :p

Gotcha. I thought those were set drop rates for the missions, regardless of event. My bad.

I absolutely read your posts, even if some of it is (obviously) over my head. I even went to your profile and browsed your posts :)

PawnXIIX
10-04-2012, 02:44 PM
Gotcha. I thought those were set drop rates for the missions, regardless of event. My bad.

I absolutely read your posts, even if some of it is (obviously) over my head. I even went to your profile and browsed your posts :)

Haha thanks. What I was referring to was another topic where 3 posts above somebody I basically solved everything that was confusing, and they were still like "Whatever this glitch is, it's a good thing for us" *facepalm*

I had another post where it simulated doing missions with certain energy requirements, and trying to figure out the best drop rates. While the mini mart is one of the leading drop sites, it's a lot of effort and hammers just for a few crates

kitzune
10-04-2012, 02:49 PM
I could be wrong, but I think iOS users will drop safe deposit boxes because it was a previous iOS event and they still have the leftovers in their inventory. (Hidden after the event is over but still there)

I wonder if that is true for people who were not around for that event.

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 02:50 PM
Haha thanks. What I was referring to was another topic where 3 posts above somebody I basically solved everything that was confusing, and they were still like "Whatever this glitch is, it's a good thing for us" *facepalm*

I had another post where it simulated doing missions with certain energy requirements, and trying to figure out the best drop rates. While the mini mart is one of the leading drop sites, it's a lot of effort and hammers just for a few crates

I saw your post in that other topic but did not understand it, sorry... New here :)


Progress Day 1 :
1- Gemstone
2- 300 RP
3- Better luck next time
4- Better luck next time

That's it for today for me. Going to bed.

Carmine74
10-04-2012, 04:38 PM
West side deli got a drop for only 50 energy-so far 0-2 on the gems.

PawnXIIX
10-04-2012, 05:24 PM
I saw your post in that other topic but did not understand it, sorry... New here :)

Understood ^^

But it does happen often, sorry to use you as an example but I say things then people seem to ignore it ;)

Ins0mn1ac
10-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Anyone knows if the normal prizes are upgraded?

During the last android only event, the regular prizes/items you get were upgraded. For example, instead of pimp lowriders which was the norm for me, they were racer z.

I strangely haven't got any regular prizes, only gemstone pendants and sorry's. Great rate though, up to 6 pendants only using the cash option.

Jekevoy
10-04-2012, 07:10 PM
Anyone knows if the normal prizes are upgraded?

During the last android only event, the regular prizes/items you get were upgraded. For example, instead of pimp lowriders which was the norm for me, they were racer z.

I strangely haven't got any regular prizes, only gemstone pendants and sorry's. Great rate though, up to 6 pendants only using the cash option.

You probably crossed the level threshold for the mid-tier to high-tier prizes which i believe is 70 something. Except in the 10 item events, don't expect racer Z's (those are in the newer 20 item events). Instead you should get enhanced bikes (9a/9d).

Progress:

1: Gem
2: Fail
3: Gem

Ins0mn1ac
10-04-2012, 07:59 PM
You probably crossed the level threshold for the mid-tier to high-tier prizes which i believe is 70 something. Except in the 10 item events, don't expect racer Z's (those are in the newer 20 item events). Instead you should get enhanced bikes (9a/9d).

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I'm level 56, before and after the last android only event, I received the pimp lowriders, during the event I was getting racer z's. Likewise, I was getting hitman's sniper rifle instead security shotgun, ballistic vests instead of bomb suits, 300R instead of 100R, cash prize increase from 6K/30K to 10K/50K. I mistakenly thought that I had went into another tier and did not take advantage of the situation. No biggie.

snuke
10-04-2012, 08:36 PM
Have the open rates changed for either the free option or the money? Seems like it's even harder now than ever.

PawnXIIX
10-04-2012, 08:55 PM
Have the open rates changed for either the free option or the money? Seems like it's even harder now than ever.

There's no way to tell perfectly because it's handled server side, however if you go through other peoples efforts it's pretty easy to tell :)

Faufiffon
10-04-2012, 09:32 PM
Update on progress.

Day 1 :
1- Gemstone
2- 300 RP
3- Better luck next time
4- Better luck next time

Day 2 :
1- Better luck next time
2- Better luck next time
3- 10 000 bucks
4- Gemstone

Harry Tuttle
10-04-2012, 10:21 PM
Sorry
Gemstone Pendant
Gemstone Pendant
Sorry
Sorry
Gemstone Pendant FBI Tactical Vest 14/23
Sorry
Sorry
Sorry
Hitman's Sniper Rifle 15/11

String-Girl
10-04-2012, 10:50 PM
It seems to me that I get a box/crate/whatever right away if I follow the "Goals" thingie up top, possibly funzio's way of keeping campers moving along... I used to get robbed a lot, so I just keep my one hour buildings timed so I collect, go to the new area and hit the green arrows 'til it gives me a crate, open it with the in-game cash and then run back to my Hood and hide (by my best Defensive Building! ;)

4x Sorry's
2 in a row Gems, late at night seems better (for lots of things!)

AK-47
10-04-2012, 10:54 PM
late at night seems better (for lots of things!)

Giggity giggity goo!!

mikkobaby
10-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Gotten 2 gemstone pendants out of 6 try. Seems to get more crates by attacking & robbing than doing goals. So far the crates dropped I had was fr droid players. Has anyone manage to get crates fr ios players?

Vito Corleone
10-04-2012, 11:59 PM
SO far it has been quite difficult to get the safe deposit boxes. I have depleted my energy at least twice and only got 1. Robbing people and doing PvP didn't work either. Just got 2 more after doing some jobs now...but it's not usually this difficult to get the boxes. Anyone else have this problem?

PawnXIIX
10-05-2012, 06:18 AM
Getting crates from PVP is way more efficient than getting them from jobs. Jobs should never be a dependant source for getting crates. In just two days I received 240+ crates from PVP for the insulated crate event (Which did not include android players :( )

Running a study on these, I never received more than 2.125 crates/1000 energy spent on ANY job. It's honestly not worth your troubles :p

Ins0mn1ac
10-05-2012, 10:10 AM
Anyone knows if the normal prizes are upgraded?

During the last android only event, the regular prizes/items you get were upgraded. For example, instead of pimp lowriders which was the norm for me, they were racer z.

I strangely haven't got any regular prizes, only gemstone pendants and sorry's. Great rate though, up to 6 pendants only using the cash option.

I got a Deviant's Coat just now 8/20 when I should have gotten Bomb Squad Suit, so I'm pretty certain that items are higher values than other regular events. Maybe it is small gesture for Android users since even the common boss items for iOS events are pretty good.

Jekevoy
10-05-2012, 10:47 AM
7 Gems
3 "Sorrys"

Not bad for 10 opens.

Bring on the doldrums.

Bala82
10-05-2012, 11:13 AM
9 Gems
4 Sorrys

Andrei2904
10-05-2012, 06:46 PM
I have the same items from the last 10/10 event.. (perfect shot. Deadly cutter. Laser gun. Elite police armor ) and also my top prize is loaded dice 219/138
Anyone else got this??

i got that too. i have those 9 items already

Carmine74
10-05-2012, 07:04 PM
8 gems after an 0-4 start.

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-06-2012, 12:06 AM
on 6 gems and cruisin not worth putting a hourly alarm for the event

AK-47
10-06-2012, 04:58 AM
Made it to 8 Gems with 3+ days left. This is by far the most excited I have been for an event since I started playing CC back in April. Will be nice to(hopefully!) get an item that I see all to often on fight screens. :cool:

TRAZ
10-06-2012, 05:09 AM
Good luck to you all. I missed out on this event when it was on iOS.

AK-47
10-06-2012, 05:18 AM
Good luck to you all. I missed out on this event when it was on iOS.
Thanx! And sorry you missed out on it when you did......

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-06-2012, 05:24 AM
y cant i get 10/10

AK-47
10-06-2012, 05:26 AM
y cant i get 10/10

lol 3+ days left... chillax! Patience is a virtue they say. Whoever "they" is.........

daystardawg
10-06-2012, 07:56 AM
the drop rate is really below average for this event. haven't gotten a single box from robberies or attacks

Faufiffon
10-06-2012, 10:06 AM
I've been stuck at 5 gemstones for the last 24 hours. The event system really sucks.

Edit: finally got a gemstone, I hope my bad luck is over.

daystardawg
10-06-2012, 02:57 PM
Really? I'm up to a little over 50

guess i'm just unlucky this event so far. usually halfway into an event, i'll have 20-30 boxes waiting to be opened. this event: haven't had more than 6 extra boxes.

Harry Tuttle
10-06-2012, 03:39 PM
I'm stuck at 8 gemstones with 5 boxes reserve. I'm finding boxes PvP, not tons, but enough to stay ahead... different story on the MW event, not many boxes showing for me there :(

snuke
10-06-2012, 03:56 PM
I started off great, getting a bunch of crates from low energy jobs (around 35-60). I'm only level 17.

But I tried the higher energy jobs recently and have only gotten one crate. I figured the following chart was probably still the rule:

Minimum Energy Spent __________Drop rate percentage
1_____________________________ 2%
26____________________________ 6%
51____________________________ 10%
76____________________________ 14%
101___________________________ 18%
126___________________________ 22%
151___________________________ 26%
176___________________________ 30%
201___________________________ 34%
226___________________________ 38%
251___________________________ 42%
276___________________________ 46%
301___________________________ 52%
351___________________________ 60%
401___________________________ 68%
451___________________________ 76%
501___________________________ 80%

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?36641-Event-box-drop-rate-in-PvE&p=306596&viewfull=1#post306596


Anyone know if they changed it?

Jekevoy
10-06-2012, 06:18 PM
Made it to 8 Gems with 3+ days left. This is by far the most excited I have been for an event since I started playing CC back in April. Will be nice to(hopefully!) get an item that I see all to often on fight screens. :cool:

I've felt that way too may times to get excited about these things anymore. I was sitting on 9 for 2.5 days when they re ran the Devil's Takedown event.

DenZ1
10-06-2012, 06:40 PM
Got it. Got to 9 easy and then stuck on 9 for 1 1/2 days. Just got 10th.

Jekevoy
10-06-2012, 06:46 PM
Bravo Sir.

Been on 8 for at least 36 hours here. I think I'm averaging about 17 attempts/day with cash.

mikkobaby
10-06-2012, 06:56 PM
Juz got my 10th (all opened via cash). Those having difficulty in getting crates, try to atk or rob from droid players. I think ios players are not dropping any as I hv tried a few times & no luck in getting any.

snuke
10-06-2012, 08:22 PM
Juz got my 10th (all opened via cash). Those having difficulty in getting crates, try to atk or rob from droid players. I think ios players are not dropping any as I hv tried a few times & no luck in getting any.

Maybe a stupid question, but how can you distinguish between ios and droid players when choosing to attack? I'm playing on a droid myself.

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-06-2012, 08:30 PM
put ur hands up whoever is stuck on 8/10

mikkobaby
10-06-2012, 09:44 PM
Maybe a stupid question, but how can you distinguish between ios and droid players when choosing to attack? I'm playing on a droid myself.

Check rival's inventory & look out for EQ (given only for droid past events such as burglar gloves, luxury escort or even current event items I.e FBI Tactical Vest). Skip those that hv samurai items coz they are only from boss events). Correct me if I'm wrong if anyone manage to get crate from ios players.

PawnXIIX
10-06-2012, 09:50 PM
I started off great, getting a bunch of crates from low energy jobs (around 35-60). I'm only level 17.

But I tried the higher energy jobs recently and have only gotten one crate. I figured the following chart was probably still the rule:

Minimum Energy Spent __________Drop rate percentage
1_____________________________ 2%
26____________________________ 6%
51____________________________ 10%
76____________________________ 14%
101___________________________ 18%
126___________________________ 22%
151___________________________ 26%
176___________________________ 30%
201___________________________ 34%
226___________________________ 38%
251___________________________ 42%
276___________________________ 46%
301___________________________ 52%
351___________________________ 60%
401___________________________ 68%
451___________________________ 76%
501___________________________ 80%

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?36641-Event-box-drop-rate-in-PvE&p=306596&viewfull=1#post306596


Anyone know if they changed it?

That's still accurate but that's from the IOS data, not sure if it's the same drop rates but it's a pretty good rule of thumb to follow.

AK-47
10-07-2012, 02:34 AM
put ur hands up whoever is stuck on 8/10

*raises hand*

Got the 8th gem with 3 days 12hrs left on timer... timer currently says 2 days 9 hrs and still on 8 gems lol. Not freaking out just yet though :p

Harry Tuttle
10-07-2012, 02:51 AM
Woo Hoo! My first top item in an event! I stopped logging cause several opens were while it was inconvenient to write it down, but I think about 45 opens, all cash.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r527/HarryTuttle0612/IMG_20121007_043827-1_zps5ae67094.jpg

Too bad it doesn't affect my current upgrade Loft 3>4 :rolleyes: lol

Now for the same luck in the MW event. Stuck at 8 with no boxes :(

mikkobaby
10-07-2012, 03:03 AM
Woo Hoo! My first top item in an event! I stopped logging cause several opens were while it was inconvenient to write it down, but I think about 45 opens, all cash.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r527/HarryTuttle0612/IMG_20121007_043827-1_zps5ae67094.jpg

Too bad it doesn't affect my current upgrade Loft 3>4 :rolleyes: lol

Now for the same luck in the MW event. Stuck at 8 with no boxes :(

Nice & gratz man! I really like this item coz it falls under expolsive category. =p

AK-47
10-07-2012, 03:16 AM
Woo Hoo! My first top item in an event! I stopped logging cause several opens were while it was inconvenient to write it down, but I think about 45 opens, all cash.
Too bad it doesn't affect my current upgrade Loft 3>4 :rolleyes: lol
Now for the same luck in the MW event. Stuck at 8 with no boxes :(
CONGRATZ!

Nice & gratz man! I really like this item coz it falls under expolsive category. =p
Wait... does it really? I don't even know, all I know is meee wannnt!

Harry Tuttle
10-07-2012, 03:19 AM
Good luck y'all!

daystardawg
10-07-2012, 05:37 AM
just got mine! i'm level 143 so i got the loaded dice version. 219/138 a/d

TRAZ
10-07-2012, 06:11 AM
Congrats to all that have the item. Don't give up if you haven't. Play til you can't play anymore. :)

PawnXIIX
10-07-2012, 06:56 AM
Woo Hoo! My first top item in an event! I stopped logging cause several opens were while it was inconvenient to write it down, but I think about 45 opens, all cash.

Now for the same luck in the MW event. Stuck at 8 with no boxes :(

45 opens!? there's time where I'd do about 110 attempts and some i'd have 60 opens and I never won :(

mikkobaby
10-07-2012, 08:26 AM
Wait... does it really? I don't even know, all I know is meee wannnt!

Yup indeed me too surprised to see it in the expolsive category. Mwahahaa.. go for it man & hope u get it too! Gd lucksss to all too! =D

KemoKidd
10-07-2012, 09:36 AM
Check rival's inventory & look out for EQ (given only for droid past events such as burglar gloves, luxury escort or even current event items I.e FBI Tactical Vest). Skip those that hv samurai items coz they are only from boss events). Correct me if I'm wrong if anyone manage to get crate from ios players.

I just got the 10th! Woohoooooo!

Anyway, I only got drops from android players. I would check to see if they had that knife we received from the pvp event. To me this meant they were on android and they compete in events. I went 10-0 on three different ios players who already had the loaded dice and got nothing. I figured they would definitely have an extra box to spare. I found it to be tougher than normal to get drops with energy. I did a 325 energy job 5 times before getting one!

Faufiffon
10-07-2012, 11:10 AM
I just got the 10th! Woohoooooo!

Anyway, I only got drops from android players. I would check to see if they had that knife we received from the pvp event. To me this meant they were on android and they compete in events. I went 10-0 on three different ios players who already had the loaded dice and got nothing. I figured they would definitely have an extra box to spare. I found it to be tougher than normal to get drops with energy. I did a 325 energy job 5 times before getting one!

Congrats!
Need two more here. I'm fed up with this event, I just want the prize and then forget about the frustration. Regarding drops from jobs, the teahouse in Chinatown and the factory in Pier 13 have been pretty good for me.

montecore
10-07-2012, 05:07 PM
I got #9 early this morning and as a result broke my own rule, spent 60 or 75 gold and got #10. Very pleased... anyone know when the upgrade speed takes effect? I have an upgrade currently going and nothing changed.

dudeman
10-07-2012, 05:16 PM
I got #9 early this morning and as a result broke my own rule, spent 60 or 75 gold and got #10. Very pleased... anyone know when the upgrade speed takes effect? I have an upgrade currently going and nothing changed.

Your current upgrade will continue unaffected, and the Loaded Dice will shorten all future upgrades by 25%.

They're a little funky right now though... They're giving 43.75% faster upgrades for some reason.

Ins0mn1ac
10-07-2012, 06:00 PM
Your current upgrade will continue unaffected, and the Loaded Dice will shorten all future upgrades by 25%.

They're a little funky right now though... They're giving 43.75% faster upgrades for some reason.

Is it 43.75% across the board? For some reason, I think it is the previous level upgrade minus the 25%. Example, upgraded a Beachside Inn from 2 to 3. Should've been 24 hours, instead it was 13.5. A level 2 upgrade would be 18 hours minus the 25% which did equal 13.5 hours.

What's even more strange is if you are doing a lvl 1 to 2. Gatling 1 to 2 should be 4 hours, but it's running 2.25 hours?

Got 35 minutes before my upgrade is finished and then I'll test my hypothesis.

Edit - BTW, I hope they don't fix this!

Cheers

montecore
10-07-2012, 06:18 PM
Is it 43.75% across the board? For some reason, I think it is the previous level upgrade minus the 25%. Example, upgraded a Beachside Inn from 2 to 3. Should've been 24 hours, instead it was 13.5. A level 2 upgrade would be 18 hours minus the 25% which did equal 13.5 hours.

What's even more strange is if you are doing a lvl 1 to 2. Gatling 1 to 2 should be 4 hours, but it's running 2.25 hours?

Got 35 minutes before my upgrade is finished and then I'll test my hypothesis.

Edit - BTW, I hope they don't fix this!

Cheers

Just started a loft level 7-8 upgrade. 78:11:35. It is supposed to take 139 hours and 6 minutes. Last upgrade took 89 hours. This is one bug I don't mind if they take their time on.

dudeman
10-07-2012, 06:46 PM
Is it 43.75% across the board? For some reason, I think it is the previous level upgrade minus the 25%. Example, upgraded a Beachside Inn from 2 to 3. Should've been 24 hours, instead it was 13.5. A level 2 upgrade would be 18 hours minus the 25% which did equal 13.5 hours.

What's even more strange is if you are doing a lvl 1 to 2. Gatling 1 to 2 should be 4 hours, but it's running 2.25 hours?

Got 35 minutes before my upgrade is finished and then I'll test my hypothesis.

Edit - BTW, I hope they don't fix this!

Cheers

The last upgrade time has nothing to do with anything. It's really simple maths, but you need to be doing the correct maths. "Faster upgrade" modifiers don't stack using straight addition. So the bugged "double" loaded dice aren't giving you a 50% faster upgrade, but a 43.75% faster upgrade.

This is because of how "faster upgrade" modifiers actually stack, which is one after the other. This can be demonstrated by doing simple calculations on any calculator.

To start, get a calculator. Using 100 as a starting point, enter -25%, then press =. You should now see 75 on the display. If 100 is "unmodified upgrade time", then 75 is "new upgrade time".

Now the upgrade time is 75, so the next -25% won't be another reduction of 25 hours because that would be a reduction of -33% and not -25%. The next -25% reduction will shorten the upgrade by another 18.75 hours, for a total reduction of -43.75%.

To use the Beachside Inn 2 ^ 3 example, 24 hours -25% becomes 18 hours. 1/4 of 18 is 4.5, therefore 18 hours -25% becomes 13.5 hours. The only factors used are the original upgrade time and the stacked modifiers, absolutely no mention of previous upgrades because that just needlessly overcomplicates everything.

Ins0mn1ac
10-07-2012, 06:58 PM
The last upgrade time has nothing to do with anything. It's really simple maths, but you need to be doing the correct maths. "Faster upgrade" modifiers don't stack using straight addition. So the bugged "double" loaded dice aren't giving you a 50% faster upgrade, but a 43.75% faster upgrade.

This is because of how "faster upgrade" modifiers actually stack, which is one after the other. This can be demonstrated by doing simple calculations on any calculator.

To start, get a calculator. Using 100 as a starting point, enter -25%, then press =. You should now see 75 on the display. If 100 is "unmodified upgrade time", then 75 is "new upgrade time".

Now the upgrade time is 75, so the next -25% won't be another reduction of 25 hours because that would be a reduction of -33% and not -25%. The next -25% reduction will shorten the upgrade by another 18.75 hours, for a total reduction of -43.75%.

To use the Beachside Inn 2 ^ 3 example, 24 hours -25% becomes 18 hours. 1/4 of 18 is 4.5, therefore 18 hours -25% becomes 13.5 hours. The only factors used are the original upgrade time and the stacked modifiers, absolutely no mention of previous upgrades because that just needlessly overcomplicates everything.

Your right, I just had to do the numbers myself.

daystardawg
10-07-2012, 06:59 PM
question Dudeman: with the glitch we're actually getting 2 reductions pf 25% correct?

i have a prize from an earlier event that gives me 10% upgrade time reduction, now i've won the 25% reduction also.
so my current reduction percent is: 100-10%=90-25%=67.5%-25%=50.6% which is very much in line with the reduction i've seen in my two quick upgrade i've done today.

montecore
10-07-2012, 07:12 PM
So the 10% only stacks once? I am doing the longest upgrades I can afford until they fix this.

PawnXIIX
10-07-2012, 07:52 PM
For the people wondering, the reason why it's happening is because the loaded dice has 2 entries in the data for the decrease in time for the upgrade.

The devils mayhem also has 2 entries, resulting in two stacking 65% reductions in energy resulting in +7 every 53 seconds I believe.

Hopefully this sheds some light on the glitch. This probably won't be fixed until we have a new data set.

dudeman
10-07-2012, 07:57 PM
question Dudeman: with the glitch we're actually getting 2 reductions pf 25% correct?

i have a prize from an earlier event that gives me 10% upgrade time reduction, now i've won the 25% reduction also.
so my current reduction percent is: 100-10%=90-25%=67.5%-25%=50.6% which is very much in line with the reduction i've seen in my two quick upgrade i've done today.

I think the greater reduction is calculated first. I have two -10% items, although one still isn't working yet, and all my upgrades are 49.375% faster. I think your math is right but you're reading the answer incorrectly. The 50.625% you see is not the amount of time reduced from the total, but rather the total of the unmodified upgrade time.

So if you had an unmodified upgrade time of 100:00:00, your new time would be ~50:40:00.

Using your calculator and the same calculations you already did, 100-25%-25%-10% = 50.625. If you reset and calculate 100-49.375% you get the same result, 50.625.

daystardawg
10-07-2012, 08:07 PM
yeah, thats actually what i meant by the 50.6%. just typed it wrong.

i hope this glitch and the energy glitch don't get fixed for a LOOONNGGGGG time. is that selfish of me?

Steve0
10-07-2012, 08:08 PM
I hope they do the Midas next would love to Get 40% stacked on top of 40% respect that would be awesome. I would go on a fighting frenzy.

dudeman
10-07-2012, 09:42 PM
yeah, thats actually what i meant by the 50.6%. just typed it wrong.

i hope this glitch and the energy glitch don't get fixed for a LOOONNGGGGG time. is that selfish of me?

From my POV, I have one faster upgrade modifier that doesn't work (and is supposed to be exclusive to 25 players in the game), and one faster upgrade modifier that's glitched, causing better upgrade times than I should have but is affecting everyone who owns the Loaded Dice...

While I am "okay" with the way things are, I would like it better if everything was fixed and working as intended. I'm supposed to have a slight advantage over the majority of my rivals regarding upgrade times, and currently that is not what's happening. I want my advantage. :p:cool:

snuke
10-07-2012, 09:43 PM
That's still accurate but that's from the IOS data, not sure if it's the same drop rates but it's a pretty good rule of thumb to follow.

OK, thanks!

I got the 9th gem today. But now I have no boxes and I'm getting really nervous....

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-07-2012, 10:02 PM
true or false??10th item via cash option is a myth

dudeman
10-07-2012, 10:49 PM
true or false??10th item via cash option is a myth

False. I did it four time back in the iOS collect 10 days.

Pathmaker (+20% cash from jobs)
Bank Buster (+100 attack skill)
Blackout RPG (+30% cash from jobs)*
Crazy Hit'n'Runner (+20% attack from cars [all vehicles])

*Due to super extra double rare circumstances, this item was deleted by support and replaced with a different collect 10 item, the Striker Minigun (Building upgrades cost 30% less). Unique situation, unique solution. I don't want to go into much detail, but I will say that my issue was ongoing for over three months because of many reasons.

Ins0mn1ac
10-07-2012, 11:04 PM
true or false??10th item via cash option is a myth

I do mine with cash option only. I've gotten all the items (minus top ranking prizes) on the last 3 events, so it can happen. Are you opening every hour?

Cheers

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-07-2012, 11:35 PM
I do mine with cash option only. I've gotten all the items (minus top ranking prizes) on the last 3 events, so it can happen. Are you opening every hour?

Cheers

howd u doit u cheat

Vito Corleone
10-07-2012, 11:49 PM
Stuck on 9. Less than 2 days to go...

dispatch_me
10-08-2012, 12:09 AM
Same here, with zero deposit boxes

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-08-2012, 12:42 AM
wata mess of an event, ive wasted 2000 energy just for 1 drop boxx. + stuk on 9 for the past 2 days

AK-47
10-08-2012, 02:15 AM
*raises hand*

Got the 8th gem with 3 days 12hrs left on timer... timer currently says 2 days 9 hrs and still on 8 gems lol. Not freaking out just yet though :p

Timer now says 1 day 9 hrs left.... I'm STILL at 8 gems! Starting to freak out a little...

balax
10-08-2012, 02:32 AM
ok, maybe we must make a list of android players with in game names and levels,
so we don't spend stamina on IOS users trying to find boxes :)

Vito Corleone
10-08-2012, 03:21 AM
Most players I encounter are IOS players. I'm at level 115.

haywood
10-08-2012, 03:25 AM
I don't know if this will work for everyone but I have noticed that once an hour, example: after I try to open a box, I go to Hillcrest and do the "Old Tenement" job (top right of screen) it gives me a box EVERYTIME. It cost 440 energy but if I waste a box by winning 500RP, I know I'll at least get that box back to try again later. I know it sounds weird but I tried to do it every 45 mins and every 50 mins and I wouldn't get a box, but every 60-65 mins I do. Just a thought

Vito Corleone
10-08-2012, 05:44 AM
I have only gotten Boxes after doing jobs. Not from robbing and attacking other players. Probably most people at my level are IOS players.

Vito Corleone
10-08-2012, 06:50 AM
Only getting EU batons, Sledgehammers and the Enhanced bikes at the moment.:mad:

Faufiffon
10-08-2012, 07:44 AM
Timer now says 1 day 9 hrs left.... I'm STILL at 8 gems! Starting to freak out a little...

I'm in the same situation. I opened (or tried to open) AT LEAST 12 boxes/day (all cash option) since the beginning of this event and I am still stuck at 8 while some players were at 10 on the 2nd day. I think the system for these events is unacceptable. It randomly rewards players without taking into account the amount of time they spend on the game. We already have random rewards in daily scratchers, events should be FAIR to players and reward them if they work hard for the goal.

PawnXIIX
10-08-2012, 07:47 AM
I'm in the same situation. I opened (or tried to open) AT LEAST 12 boxes/day (all cash option) since the beginning of this event and I am still stuck at 8 while some players were at 10 on the 2nd day. I think the system for these events is unacceptable. It randomly rewards players without taking into account the amount of time they spend on the game. We already have random rewards in daily scratchers, events should be FAIR to players and reward them if they work hard for the goal.

To be perfectly fair here, I was opening up to 17/18 a day and still never got the 10 for any event...

Faufiffon
10-08-2012, 08:24 AM
To be perfectly fair here, I was opening up to 17/18 a day and still never got the 10 for any event...

Well, that's perfectly unfair no?

twolf
10-08-2012, 08:52 AM
I use to struggle big time on tbese events but the last two i've gotten 10 stress free. Gotten 2-3 gems/paintings per day on around 14 opens. The thing i've done different the last 2 events was stockpile safety deposit boxes on day 1 by attacking a tonne of players and doing high energy missions (attacking a area boss). I usually have 30 or so at a time and have a pretty high success rate opening.

dispatch_me
10-08-2012, 09:08 AM
Only getting EU batons, Sledgehammers and the Enhanced bikes at the moment.:mad:

That's all I'm getting too and the fact that it does nothing for my stats makes it much more frustrating.

KemoKidd
10-08-2012, 09:14 AM
Here's a thought: ios users had a mistake where those who were supposed to get one item got two and they are not taking it back. So now that android players are getting an extra "prize", can we keep it?

Sandukan
10-08-2012, 10:03 AM
I've been stuck on 9 for the past two days and opened lots of crates. Nothing!
With that luck I probably shouldn't leave home today.

Ins0mn1ac
10-08-2012, 10:11 AM
To be perfectly fair here, I was opening up to 17/18 a day and still never got the 10 for any event...

Completely agree with PawnXIIX, there were events where I'm doing 17 attempts a day, and I've never made it past 15 out of 20. It seems just recently the events had way better odds in my case, especially these "catchup" android only ones.

Lonestoner
10-08-2012, 10:16 AM
I've been stuck on 9 for the past two days and opened lots of crates. Nothing!
With that luck I probably shouldn't leave home today.

Same exact scenario here. My log on the progress log thread will show you what true failure is like. :(

Here's hoping to 10 before the end of the event...

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 10:31 AM
I'm stuck on safety deposit 8 :(

If I get 9 - I will spend money to open...

NTM
10-08-2012, 11:34 AM
well... for this time i'm lucky.. i use 0 Gold.. all cash options and i got 10/10 today... lol.. what surprise !

left 1 day and 3 hours.. but got 10/10 :)

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7237/sc20121008165959.th.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/sc20121008165959.jpg/) http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7481/sc20121008165955.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/sc20121008165955.jpg/) http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4323/sc20121008165951.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/sc20121008165951.jpg/)

last event i use some gold but this one is 100% free !

Euchred
10-08-2012, 11:40 AM
Love those screen shots NTM brings back good memories =)

snuke
10-08-2012, 11:53 AM
Check rival's inventory & look out for EQ (given only for droid past events such as burglar gloves, luxury escort or even current event items I.e FBI Tactical Vest). Skip those that hv samurai items coz they are only from boss events). Correct me if I'm wrong if anyone manage to get crate from ios players.

So if they have such things as burglar gloves, etc. and other items you can only get from the events, they are NOT IOS, right? So those are the people to rob/attack?

Still stuck on 9 with one day left. I am still only finding about 3-4 crates a day. Doing jobs that cost 120+ energy and still not getting many crates. Sitting on one crate right now. Praying it yields the last gem.... Any chance its rigged to make it harder to get the last one at the end? Or is it totally based on set odds?

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 11:54 AM
So if they have such things as burglar gloves, etc. and other items you can only get from the events, they are NOT IOS, right? So those are the people to rob/attack?

Still stuck on 9 with one day left. I am still only finding about 3-4 crates a day. Doing jobs that cost 120+ energy and still not getting many crates. Sitting on one crate right now. Praying it yields the last gem.... Any chance its rigged to make it harder to get the last one at the end? Or is it totally based on set odds?

These events are repeats of IOS events. So most IOS players will have these items anyways...

Ins0mn1ac
10-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Still stuck on 9 with one day left. I am still only finding about 3-4 crates a day. Doing jobs that cost 120+ energy and still not getting many crates. Sitting on one crate right now. Praying it yields the last gem.... Any chance its rigged to make it harder to get the last one at the end? Or is it totally based on set odds?

Got to be odds. I've been trying to farm regular prizes and now I'm up to 19 pendants, you would think that the chances of getting that many would be ridiculous.

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 12:14 PM
Got to be odds. I've been trying to farm regular prizes and now I'm up to 19 pendants, you would think that the chances of getting that many would be ridiculous.

I'm jealous... wtf.. 19 pendants?!

This event better run into OT!

veck54
10-08-2012, 12:18 PM
699 - 948 - 435

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 12:19 PM
699 - 948 - 435

What level are you Veck and what's your in game name?

Vito Corleone
10-08-2012, 12:50 PM
Usually the IOS players have MELEE stuff named Captains something...after the Captain O'Malley boss event I presume.
But the majority at my level seem to be IOS players.

snuke
10-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Got to be odds. I've been trying to farm regular prizes and now I'm up to 19 pendants, you would think that the chances of getting that many would be ridiculous.

Guess it is the odds because I just got the tenth! Woohoo! didn't think it would happen and there's still a day left.
The Dice don't say "Buildings upgrade 25% faster" in your inventory screen, but I'm assuming that's simply because they can't fit that in. Not that I'd forget it.

So Insomniac, if you have 19 pendants, could you possibly get two Diamond Dice at 20 and upgrade 50% faster? :D

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 12:57 PM
Guess it is the odds because I just got the tenth! Woohoo! didn't think it would happen and there's still a day left.
The Dice don't say "Buildings upgrade 25% faster" in your inventory screen, but I'm assuming that's simply because they can't fit that in. Not that I'd forget it.

So Insomniac, if you have 19 pendants, could you possibly get two Diamond Dice at 20 and upgrade 50% faster? :D

If that happens - I'll will cry ( ._.)

veck54
10-08-2012, 01:10 PM
699 - 948 - 435

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 01:13 PM
699 - 948 - 435

No one cares if you play all the time - because it DOESN'T MATTER

Please walk off the earth and die...

Ins0mn1ac
10-08-2012, 01:16 PM
Guess it is the odds because I just got the tenth! Woohoo! didn't think it would happen and there's still a day left.
The Dice don't say "Buildings upgrade 25% faster" in your inventory screen, but I'm assuming that's simply because they can't fit that in. Not that I'd forget it.

So Insomniac, if you have 19 pendants, could you possibly get two Diamond Dice at 20 and upgrade 50% faster? :D

No :(

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/jpsandwell/20_pendants_zpsbb3a9980.jpg

Ain't that some crap.

sexkitteh
10-08-2012, 01:18 PM
No :(

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/jpsandwell/20_pendants_zpsbb3a9980.jpg

Ain't that some crap.

I hate you....

dudeman
10-08-2012, 01:23 PM
I hate you....

So should every iOS player who never got to 10 in the old events.

That's some real android love right there!

snuke
10-08-2012, 02:01 PM
Ha. Yeah that really is impressive though.

This was one special item I really wanted more than others I have seen. Anything that can cut down on waiting time is huge, particularly since you can only update one building at a time. Knocking 25% off any upgrade seems pretty darn good to me.

chbranch
10-08-2012, 02:07 PM
I'm stuck on 9 and its really starting to piss me off

Sandukan
10-08-2012, 02:18 PM
I'm stuck on 9 and its really starting to piss me off
Pissed off is not the words.
This is unbelievable. The chance for 10 must be lest than 2%.
To get to 9 so early and seeing click after click being fails or crap is breaking my will.

snuke
10-08-2012, 03:22 PM
Pissed off is not the words.
This is unbelievable. The chance for 10 must be lest than 2%.
To get to 9 so early and seeing click after click being fails or crap is breaking my will.

I really think it's random. I would guess something like 40-50% for a gem, and the other 50-60% divided up between cash, weapons, and respect.

Honestly, I only opened about 16 or 17 crates (please don't hate me). Obviously 10 for gems; the other 6 or so....I remember one Mark 2 Blade, one minigun, two $10,000 cash, two 50 respect. Not sure what else. But a couple days in the past 5 days I was opening every hour on the hour for about 9 hours straight.

Maybe having fewer crates in your inventory when you open helps, because I never had more than 2 in my possession at a time. But I can't imagine why they'd make that so - perhaps to help out people who can only do lower energy jobs?

snuke
10-08-2012, 03:23 PM
P.S. DON'T GIVE UP! Plenty of time left in the event. If you're stuck on nine, keep at it.

cditti
10-08-2012, 03:33 PM
Woo Hoo ! I just unlocked number 10 !!!!

snuke
10-08-2012, 03:49 PM
Woo Hoo ! I just unlocked number 10 !!!!

There ya go! :)

zweirdone
10-08-2012, 03:54 PM
I just opened 12 straight boxes and not a single pendant..... this is really starting to piss me off been on 9 for 2 days now.

snuke
10-08-2012, 03:58 PM
Out of curiosity, what are you getting on those opens?

snuke
10-08-2012, 04:15 PM
The last upgrade time has nothing to do with anything. It's really simple maths, but you need to be doing the correct maths. "Faster upgrade" modifiers don't stack using straight addition. So the bugged "double" loaded dice aren't giving you a 50% faster upgrade, but a 43.75% faster upgrade.

This is because of how "faster upgrade" modifiers actually stack, which is one after the other. This can be demonstrated by doing simple calculations on any calculator.

To start, get a calculator. Using 100 as a starting point, enter -25%, then press =. You should now see 75 on the display. If 100 is "unmodified upgrade time", then 75 is "new upgrade time".

Now the upgrade time is 75, so the next -25% won't be another reduction of 25 hours because that would be a reduction of -33% and not -25%. The next -25% reduction will shorten the upgrade by another 18.75 hours, for a total reduction of -43.75%.

To use the Beachside Inn 2 ^ 3 example, 24 hours -25% becomes 18 hours. 1/4 of 18 is 4.5, therefore 18 hours -25% becomes 13.5 hours. The only factors used are the original upgrade time and the stacked modifiers, absolutely no mention of previous upgrades because that just needlessly overcomplicates everything.

Well, there are TWO diamond dice in the picture, so maybe it is supposed to stack twice giving you 43.5% faster....j/k, i think :o

EDIT: I was going to ask a question about upgrade times, but you are totally right on with the 43.5%, dudeman. Really hope it stays like that!

zweirdone
10-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Out of curiosity, what are you getting on those opens?
I am a serial robber so i look for items that onky android players have and then i hit there entire board. Most times i get 5 or 6 boxes from each player.

Lonestoner
10-08-2012, 05:08 PM
I just opened 12 straight boxes and not a single pendant..... this is really starting to piss me off been on 9 for 2 days now.

12? I've opened 31 in a row with no 10th item still.. :(

Here's the link to my progress: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?40358-Safe-Deposit-Box-Event-Log-your-progress.&p=436761&viewfull=1#post436761

String-Girl
10-08-2012, 05:31 PM
On the last event I had nine going into the last hour, bought the bare minimum gold so I could reset timer and buy a crowbar so I could finally feast my eyes upon...... "An EU Police Baton!"

I was so pissed I tossed my phone and then several hours later realized the contest had gone into overtime. Too late, by the time I found another crate/box it had ended for good...

P.S. Sitting on 9 since "2 days, 14 hours, 25 minutes left"

snuke
10-08-2012, 06:23 PM
I wonder if the way a crate is acquired matters. I really doubt it.

But if anyone wants to try something new in a last ditch effort to get that 10th pendant, try not acquiring more and just open the ones you have remaining. Like I said earlier, I never had more than 2 crates in my possession at any time and I got a pendant better than 50% of the time.

If it's easy for you to get crates, just do it as you get down to 1-2 crates left and then keep trying to open.

Carmine74
10-08-2012, 06:35 PM
Still on 9 here as well, may be a late night. All cash, no gold.

Dr. Dengus
10-08-2012, 06:51 PM
Looking at NTM and Insomniac's screenshots ... wonder why different tiers have completely different prizes for 3,5,7 etc...

snuke
10-08-2012, 07:21 PM
Looking at NTM and Insomniac's screenshots ... wonder why different tiers have completely different prizes for 3,5,7 etc...

Huh, didn't even notice that. Isn't it that there are different items if you are level 10-19, 20-29, etc.? Thought I read something like that.

Lonestoner
10-08-2012, 07:44 PM
Not sure how many tiers there are for these old iOS style events, but the leaderboard events were 1-20 / 21-50 / 51-80 / 81+.. My items are different than the screenshots I linked in the first post as well. Dice are a different name too.

zweirdone
10-08-2012, 07:45 PM
Just opened up another 16 boxes and still nothing something is off with their % to get the final pendants or something... I am now really getting pissed!

len
10-08-2012, 08:15 PM
I wonder if the odds decrease once you hit gem 9? I'm also stuck on #9. It would be a pretty sleazy, but effective, way to milk gold out of people who really want the #10 prize.

dudeman
10-08-2012, 08:30 PM
I wonder if the odds decrease once you hit gem 9? I'm also stuck on #9. It would be a pretty sleazy, but effective, way to milk gold out of people who really want the #10 prize.

Well yeah, that's how the old collect 10 events worked. Every gem (or whatever event item) you get decreases your chances of getting another one.

That worked perfectly on iOS, almost everyone had a hard time getting #10... And getting more than 10 was just unheard of!

I'm surprised there aren't iOS players lighting their pitchforks over how easily a lot of android players seem to be getting the final event prize.

Euchred
10-08-2012, 08:33 PM
I'm surprised there aren't iOS players lighting their pitchforks over how easily a lot of android players seem to be getting the final event prize.

It also seems like a lot aren't getting it, I'm not claiming to know how it works but it still seems like 10 is hard enough to get and then after it becomes easier to get more.

Dr. Dengus
10-08-2012, 08:52 PM
Huh, didn't even notice that. Isn't it that there are different items if you are level 10-19, 20-29, etc.? Thought I read something like that.

Usually the images of the items are the same from tier to tier, it's just the name and stats that change. Looking at the different screenshots though the items are completely different. Ie: Insomniac has a Getaway Car as his 5th item prize, but NTM has a Deadly Cutter (melee).

dispatch_me
10-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Finally! Way past my bedtime and was ready to give it up for the night, 3 resets later and I finally got the darn thing.

Harry Tuttle
10-08-2012, 09:44 PM
Got my 10th yesterday but still opening boxes, no more diamond pendants (still at 10) and I keep getting cash (usually 10k) and RP. Pump up those chain whips! I did get a couple Racer Z's early on and an extra Deviant Coat but other than that no pendants, only $ and RP.

Lonestoner
10-08-2012, 10:02 PM
35 Boxes opened since I got my 9th pendant, 18 fails... Getting pretty frustrating...

Polarbear
10-08-2012, 10:08 PM
35 Boxes opened since I got my 9th pendant, 18 fails... Getting pretty frustrating...

Pshhh! Frustrating is opening 87 boxes (half of them with gold) and not getting it.

the_dude
10-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Pshhh! Frustrating is opening 87 boxes (half of them with gold) and not getting it.

That does sound horrible.

I was about to start spending gold on this thing and just got my 10th. Woohoo!

Harry Tuttle
10-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Congratulations! Was I in your hood a couple weeks ago? Posted on your wall "I love that movie!"?

the_dude
10-08-2012, 10:29 PM
Congratulations! Was I in your hood a couple weeks ago? Posted on your wall "I love that movie!"?

Thanks.
No i havent gotten that post. I'm only level 65, so this will help alot.
Lebowski is the tits though

the_dude
10-08-2012, 10:33 PM
BTW Brazil and every other Gilliam film is great as well :)

Sorry for the derail, I tried to edit my original post and it made another one.

I'm gonna keep trying to get more items with cash until time runs out as it is still cheaper than trying to buy cars or armor directly with cash from the store.

zweirdone
10-08-2012, 10:49 PM
Pshhh! Frustrating is opening 87 boxes (half of them with gold) and not getting it.

I know how you feel! I am not up as far as you are but i onow i have opened at least 60++ all with gold and still on nuber 9...... i am past frustrated i am now very very upset if not beyond...

TZora
10-09-2012, 12:11 AM
i've promised myself i will not spend rm or gold on "any" of the events. i've never won anything even though i spent gold on scratchers and events but nothing.......

as for this event, been on 8 since day 1 and just won the 9th .. no hopes of winning the 10th no matter what i do. so stick it up............

NV555
10-09-2012, 01:46 AM
Thank you for the suggestion it worked for me.


I don't know if this will work for everyone but I have noticed that once an hour, example: after I try to open a box, I go to Hillcrest and do the "Old Tenement" job (top right of screen) it gives me a box EVERYTIME. It cost 440 energy but if I waste a box by winning 500RP, I know I'll at least get that box back to try again later. I know it sounds weird but I tried to do it every 45 mins and every 50 mins and I wouldn't get a box, but every 60-65 mins I do. Just a thought

NV555
10-09-2012, 01:52 AM
I'm still stuck on 9 and holding.



________________UPDATE______________________

Just got my 10th one.

Been doing gold for the last 12 safes. Got the safes from the old test.

(MS13)TURKISHTIGER
10-09-2012, 02:46 AM
im stuk on 9 and thinking of spending gold any suggestions???????

AK-47
10-09-2012, 03:18 AM
I been stuck on 8 since 3.5 days left on the timer... Its been a very strange run I must say. Got to 8 fairly quickly, and since then I have opened as much as I can, which is 12-16 per day. After #8, I have successfully opened maybe 6 or 7... all cash option. Just seems strange that I can't even seem to get the crappy enhanced bikes or batons or even cash or RP prizes. I am dumbfounded for sure. I started last hour opening with the gold option. I guess the G.C. I was saving for, which I was only 10g away will have to wait. :(

TZora
10-09-2012, 04:14 AM
im stuk on 9 and thinking of spending gold any suggestions???????
lol if you've made ur mind to spend gold, nobody can stop you :p
but my opinion is that its too tough to get the 10th. think over, if you waste ur gold and still dont get the 10th. search older events, you'll find many complaining that they wasted gold for 10th and didnt get anything. on the other hand, not everybody spent gold to get the 10th. there are many who got it with the game money ..

zweirdone
10-09-2012, 04:23 AM
im stuk on 9 and thinking of spending gold any suggestions???????

Watch out i won't lie i spent a good chunk of gold on getting the 10th i have finally got it but i went through a lot of boxes... just a fyi it has to be on a timer or odds or something but there is a good chance you may not get it unless you are willing to drop some money and you really have to grind for the boxes. I got most of mine from robbing people, then missions, last attacking. Sum it up, either hit hard or not at all!

TZora
10-09-2012, 04:24 AM
yeah .. well now only if i can get that lucky and get the 10th with just game money .. let me guess what are the chances .. umm one in million?

br.jellema
10-09-2012, 04:57 AM
Just got my 11th :)

Opening chances for every event are always the same for me. I open all boxes with cash option only and always get up & about this result:
1/3 = Better Luck Nexttime
1/3 = Armor/Weapon/Car/Cash/Big Cash
1/3 = Gem/Event item.

Seems to be pretty consistent in all events so far.

TZora
10-09-2012, 06:45 AM
care to lend me one? the 11th gem is not going to do any good to u lol

snuke
10-09-2012, 11:24 AM
care to lend me one? the 11th gem is not going to do any good to u lol

Yeah, where is the trade/gift option in this game??

I am shocked that people on here are saying they have opened more than 50 boxes without finding a gem. I seriously only opened about 20 total and got all 10 gems needed (all with cash, never gold). I'm not at level 20 yet though (in all honesty, i moved up about 5 levels just doing jobs to get crates). Perhaps it's harder for higher level players since they can obtain crates easier from higher energy jobs?

Otherwise, how can you explain it? zweirdone said he opened over 60 without a gem? Polarbear said he opened 87 opens without one?!?! All things being equal, the odds of that are ridiculously low. Which leads me to believe all things are not equal.

soulnmysole
10-09-2012, 12:03 PM
I was stuck at 9 with two days left, i figured i was in a good situation. Continued to do cash open for about +20 times... Nothing

so i decided to use gold. I bought about 300+ gold and opened about 12 or so boxes in a row and did not get 1 gemstone ring. Because i could not believe the improbability of this i bought 110 more gold, did some more jobs and opened 5 more deposit boxes.... Absolutely nothing.

After acquiring 9 rings, i probably opened a good 30 boxes (i mean the in the most literal sense) and never acquired a 10th.

I emailed funzio a furious email.

I would not suggest anyone spend gold on this event.

Carmine74
10-09-2012, 12:12 PM
Ended up with 9...Swell. On a positive note, I have plenty of Enhanced Bikes and EU Security Batons...Bastards!!! lol

Faufiffon
10-09-2012, 12:18 PM
I was stuck at 9 with two days left, i figured i was in a good situation. Continued to do cash open for about +20 times... Nothing

so i decided to use gold. I bought about 300+ gold and opened about 12 or so boxes in a row and did not get 1 gemstone ring. Because i could not believe the improbability of this i bought 110 more gold, did some more jobs and opened 5 more deposit boxes.... Absolutely nothing.

After acquiring 9 rings, i probably opened a good 30 boxes (i mean the in the most literal sense) and never acquired a 10th.

I emailed funzio a furious email.

I would not suggest anyone spend gold on this event.

Really? You spent what, 30$ (or more?) to get NOTHING in return and all you can do is write a furious email? Come on wake up, they just STOLE your money! There's no other way to put it... I mean no disrespect to you and to all the players who spent money on this game but seriously...

Personally I did not spend any money but after spending so much time on this event and not getting the prize (stayed at 9 gems for the last 24 hours), I feel ROBBED. The bull****-o-meter is full for me and I'm going to show you in a few minutes how developers like Gree/Funzio must be delt with. It'll take the form of a short tutorial :)

fevergame
10-09-2012, 12:22 PM
I was stuck at 9 (2 Day) ....... At Last hour

And I'm Buy 1500 Gold for Open 30 Box
(Use 15 Gold Reset Time + 15 Gold Open 100%)


But notting to Find 1Gem for 10/10


Unlucky Day .................. and I'm very Sad

Faufiffon
10-09-2012, 12:29 PM
Unlucky Day .................. and I'm very Sad

Don't be sad. Be angry. You just got robbed...

Ramshutu
10-09-2012, 12:31 PM
The open rate of previous events was around 2%. I think I worked it out as something like 650 gold to have only a 90% chance.

soulnmysole
10-09-2012, 12:34 PM
Really? You spent what, 30$ (or more?) to get NOTHING in return and all you can do is write a furious email? Come on wake up, they just STOLE your money! There's no other way to put it... I mean no disrespect to you and to all the players who spent money on this game but seriously...

Personally I did not spend any money but after spending so much time on this event and not getting the prize (stayed at 9 gems for the last 24 hours), I feel ROBBED. The bull****-o-meter is full for me and I'm going to show you in a few minutes how developers like Gree/Funzio must be delt with. It'll take the form of a short tutorial :)

Yea, I definitely feel robbed, cheated, mislead, bamboozled... all in one.

Including cash opens, I probably opened around 25-30 safe deposit boxes (after already acquiring my 9th) and never got a 10th. Nothing but some crappy enhanced bikes, sledge hammers and respect. With the $$, time and effort I wasted on this event I definitely feel cheated.

Hopefully Funzio handles this situation correctly.

Faufiffon
10-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Hopefully Funzio handles this situation correctly.

Hum yeah well... sigh... seen this too many times before... But you can keep dreaming...

Edit: my little tutorial is almost ready.

Carmine74
10-09-2012, 12:50 PM
I'm glad I didn't spend any gold on this event, if they make it so obvious to limit the number of gems the last 3 days then to hell with them!

Carl1
10-09-2012, 12:51 PM
made it 11/10 !
1 free open after I made it to 10...

sexkitteh
10-09-2012, 12:53 PM
The open rate of previous events was around 2%. I think I worked it out as something like 650 gold to have only a 90% chance.

That's what I spent and was still stuck at 8...

I have something like 60 gold left... of 650

Ramshutu
10-09-2012, 01:01 PM
That's what I spent and was still stuck at 8...

I have something like 60 gold left... of 650

I redid the maths. 600 gold is about a ~63% chance, if you are at 9 items.

Lonestoner
10-09-2012, 01:13 PM
Well, I'm also stuck at 9 still. My roommate got to 10 AGAIN, opening no MORE than 8 chests per day. He's about 30 levels lower than I am, but that shouldn't matter. Absolutely nothing should matter when I open DOUBLE the amount of chests he does per day. I spend over twice as much time as he does playing this game, and get rewarded with extreme anger and frustration. Two events now he's gotten to the grand prize, and I've been stuck at 9. Absolutely unbelievable.

Ended up opening about 45 chests since getting my 9th and never got the last gem. Got all kinds of crap bikes, hammers, batons, cash, respect.. All which adds up to nothing in comparison to a non-consumable explosive with a great bonus on it.

This is the most pissed I have been with this game now by far. This formula behind this events is completely inexcusable, and needs desperate reworking. If you reward your casual players more than your dedicated ones, what's to keep them playing?

prostouser
10-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Enlist me to those who didn't make it :)
First 8 gems was easy as usual (1 day), 9th took about 1 day (~10 attempts).
About 50 crates were opened to get 10th item with mixed cash and free option. Cash: ~45% items, 55% Sorry. Free: 20% items 80%Sorry

There is probably a glitch that allowed to several low-mid tier players (Bala87, Insomniac) to receive top award enormously easy. Their screenshots contain items that weaker than mine and have other names (Loaded Dice = Big's 7).
As for others, Ramshutu's rule of thumb "2% success per opening attempt to receive 10th event item (with cash?)" seems to be working.
Grats to the winners, smile to the loosers :)

Liquidsky
10-09-2012, 01:39 PM
day 1 - 8 gems
Day 2.5 - 9th gem

And I did not get the 10th.

All cash opens, about 15 open attempts per day.

I have a theory that it might be level dependent? Since some people got 20 gems?

Did anyone over level 100 get the tenth?

Lonestoner
10-09-2012, 01:49 PM
What you guys are posting does seem to contain a pattern; I don't think I've seen one person get the loaded dice, only the Big 7s.

May be ticket spam time!

serega13
10-09-2012, 01:50 PM
Same thing as everyone here, day 2: 8 gems, day 3: 9 gems. Spent the rest of the time plus 1000 gold trying to get gem 10 with no success.

Ins0mn1ac
10-09-2012, 01:52 PM
What you guys are posting does seem to contain a pattern; I don't think I've seen one person get the loaded dice, only the Big 7s.

May be ticket spam time!

NTM got loaded dice, he posted his screenshot in this thread (page 12).

Lonestoner
10-09-2012, 01:58 PM
NTM got loaded dice, he posted his screenshot in this thread (page 12).

Okay that makes 1.. I couldn't see his screenshots oddly, though I did see the post.

Again, other than not rewarding the people that play more (opening more chests than others), you're going to reward the people who have been playing less time as well? Or rewarding campers?

The pendant drop rates HAVE to be higher for people in lower brackets.. I mean really, 20 fcking pendants? That's completely unheard of. Another with 14? Another with 12?

What sort of logic is there in rewarding lower level players with more than higher level ones?

prostouser
10-09-2012, 02:11 PM
Okay that makes 1.. I couldn't see his screenshots oddly, though I did see the post.

Again, other than not rewarding the people that play more (opening more chests than others), you're going to reward the people who have been playing less time as well? Or rewarding campers?

The pendant drop rates HAVE to be higher for people in lower brackets.. I mean really, 20 fcking pendants? That's completely unheard of. Another with 14? Another with 12?

What sort of logic is there in rewarding lower level players with more than higher level ones?
May be no logic, just err? :) Or pure luck.
My personal opinion: this event worked exactly as the same event for iOS for me. Everyone had a decent chance to win Dice with cash only, and someone made it, someone didn't.Can't find a reason for a ticket.

JokerTooCold
10-09-2012, 02:18 PM
I feel So lucky that I got the loaded dice with about 22 hrs to spare.. that was my first time ever getting a top prize in an event. All cash opens btw.

Lonestoner
10-09-2012, 02:22 PM
Can't find a reason for a ticket.

For the most part, I agree. Other than the fact that my roommate plays half as much as I do, and opens half as many event crates as I do, and he's gotten 10/10 two events in a row, and I've been stuck at 9 on both of them.

This simply isn't right. Not a matter of fair and unfair, it's a matter of right and wrong, and this is completely wrong.

There is no way to justify a lower level, less active player getting rewarded more handsomely.

It doesn't seem like a hard fix really. Just have a low percentage to get to #10, but each consecutive crate you open raises that percentage a slight bit. By the time you open 45 (myself), or especially 80 (polarbear), there should be no way that you don't get the chest. If you have money to spend, but no time to play, you can reset / crowbar them. If you have no money to spend, but time to play, you can be rewarded eventually as well. I see nothing wrong with this method; it's not rocket science either.

On a side note, the whole "2%" getting from 9-10 HAS to be garbage. If that's the case, someone please explain to me how a player got to 20 pendants? I'm not working out the math, but that's damn near impossible. For someone even to be able to get to 20 while others can't get to 10, something's wrong. Very wrong.

Boof
10-09-2012, 02:34 PM
day 1 - 8 gems
Day 2.5 - 9th gem

And I did not get the 10th.

All cash opens, about 15 open attempts per day.

I have a theory that it might be level dependent? Since some people got 20 gems?

Did anyone over level 100 get the tenth?

I'm level 107. I got 8 pendants the first day, then three days of nothing and got the 9th yesterday. I spent about 400 gold getting the 10th pendant today with a couple of hours left.

Lonestoner
10-09-2012, 02:39 PM
I spent about 400 gold getting the 10th pendant today with a couple of hours left.

This is something I refuse to do, since tapjoy doesn't* work for android, and I have saved up my 520 gold for 2x GCs and 2x PTs when at that level. It literally took a couple months of offers (and countless support tickets) to be where I am now, and I'm not about to waste it to maybe get the item I'd like. No thanks. I'll build my useful now / pointless later income instead.

*= It seems tapjoy has worked for an android user, but only one from what I remember.

NV555
10-09-2012, 06:44 PM
I got the 10th one after using gold every hour opening approx 14 safes in the last 18 hours of the event and it opeed with 5 hours left in the event.

Im level 143 and have the loaded dice.

My bigest issue was finding the safes until I got the tip on the old test location.

Now I feel that they should have an event for us droid users that has a lot of really good items and is easy to obtain the winning top prize to make up for the disavantage of not being IOS.

Also not to hijack but what does anyone think about asking for 2 servers ?

IOS only server and Android only server.

Could it even be done?

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Vito Corleone
10-10-2012, 01:38 AM
I also got the loaded dice. I'm at level 116. But I had to break my own rule not to use gold to get it.
My 1st time ever I have done that. But the 43% upgrade time bonus is worth it.:)

OZTHEMAN
10-10-2012, 10:33 AM
IM ON ANDROID ... THIS GAME ENRAGES ME .. I was on the ninth and had 56 attempts for the last one even using gold to no avail.. apart from that it was a good competition most people did do well to get the first 9.. BUT THEY STILL HAVE NOT REPAIRED THE ANDROID PROFILE WHICH IS NOW SHOWING 8.000 POINTS LESS THAN IT REALLY IS AND IM ON LEVEL 93..

zombie305
10-10-2012, 11:53 AM
Im still in overtime since i didnt close the app. Seems like it is impossible to get the 10th. I have been stuck on 9 since the third day.

Lonestoner
10-11-2012, 03:16 PM
Im still in overtime since i didnt close the app. Seems like it is impossible to get the 10th. I have been stuck on 9 since the third day.

My overtime tragically ended yesterday, and I still didn't get the damn thing. Easily opened over 60 boxes after getting my ninth, and never got it. Shame.

Jessie_
10-11-2012, 04:10 PM
My top prize is called crooked dice 127/96 :)

daystardawg
10-19-2012, 07:12 PM
howd u doit u cheat
Damn tiger u making us Android ppl look bad