Dragon Breeders

[Hobtuse]

The ultimate gold unit one can buy.
The red nasty fire-breathing fella.
Lets you wreak havoc and raze kingdoms.

How many Dragons have you bred?!?!

I have a full dragon army now.

Feel free to post!! How many different types of dragons do some of you have?


PS: This thread is similar to the High Priest Hoarders thread. I couldn't post there as I had ZERO High Priests. High Priests are for campers!

[Dexter Morgan]

500 so far. Planning to get to 1k and then start buying weapons/armor

[Joe Brown1]

568 and growing. I plan to get to the point where I can defeat 20 bosses without gems (just crossed 80K attack with 350 allies at lvl 84) and then go back to weapons/armor and economy. Not camping - I raid constantly, 6191 - 0 thus far. Just not as much interest in the quests right now. Will probably go back to quests after lvl 100 or so.

[The_Red]

0. The dragon viagra aint working....

[ShawnBB]

The ultimate gold unit one can buy.
The red nasty fire-breathing fella.
Lets you wreak havoc and raze kingdoms.

How many Dragons have you bred?!?!

I am at 650, still a long way to full dragon independence.

Feel free to post!! How many different types of dragons do some of you have?


PS: This thread is similar to the High Priest Hoarders thread. I couldn't post there as I had ZERO High Priests. High Priests are for campers!

wow, dudes all entered into dragon age :|. Sweet
I'm so fcked up by whales right now. Whales are more than what I thought during my saving time, lost 1m+ gold total :(

But how did you defend small whales without HPs on the way saving?

[Hobtuse]

@ShawnBB: I consider lost gold as taxation for the path to Dragons. I got to Hydras and accumulated a ton of them before embarking on the BD 10. I did it at Level 120 and the whales here are a lot bigger than the ones swimming around you. Not really a fan of the "hide in cave at 50 and get to Dragons" strategy.

[Njwmrb]

I'm only at 180... still investing a lot into upgrades

[YLL]

Currently 428 regular dragons, for 143 allies. Actually have 20-odd better-than-dragon indestructibles, so it's effectively a 408-dragon army with 20 in reserve.

[War Eagle]

My dragon army is still a bunch of babies...
I'm sitting at 55 right now...

[Euchred]

Haven't bred any yet I made the mistake of buying all the gem buildings at the same time my bd hit 10 :p I have 2 from the starter pack though.

[Eragon]

I have 554 dragons right now...and growing.

[Eragon]

I'm only at 180... still investing a lot into upgrades

I am investing ALL into dragons so my attack continues to rise for boss events...can do big upgrades later.

[Dhusagar]

I have 50 ATM, but just got my iph up to 13k and sitting on a million waiting for next boss event. My realistic income is 230k a day, so have enough for 100 dragons a week - don't rob much. I am a dragon farmer ;-)

[John Snow]

I have 161, plus two from some boss events. I lost my first one yesterday in an attack. It reminded me that buying expensive equipment is a "permanent" stat boost since they can't be lost.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Gosh - I have about 40, some event items, some dragons. Guess I gotta catch up. :)

[Great_wall2]

I've got about 177 now. Been alternating buying dragons and big upgrades so it has been a bit of a slower go. I bought a lot of HPs 1100+ which helped my defense significantly and only camped for a few days while saving for the really big upgrades. I don't own a single hydra...

[GetItOn]

1250 which is my max needed, plus 250 indestructibles with better stats than Dragons.

[MaximumFun]

1250 which is my max needed, plus 250 indestructibles with better stats than Dragons.

You, sir, are a god. A GOD I SAY!!!

Well done, indeed.

[GetItOn]

You, sir, are a god. A GOD I SAY!!!

Well done, indeed.

LoL, thank you. But not even close. There's plenty of players out there that make me seem average at best.

[Hello Kitty]

LoL, thank you. But not even close. There's plenty of players out there that make me seem average at best.GIO, Are you blushing?

[GetItOn]

GIO, Are you blushing?

Who me?  Never. 

[Hello Kitty]

Who me?  Never. Bahaha! Nice job on the dragons though! Awesome. You are blazing the trail for the rest of us!!!

[spectra]

In about 11 hours I will have my first batch of Baby Dragons

Please keep quite, Do not want to disturb the delivery.

you are more than welcome to send me some present in the form of:
Knights, dukes, and any other unwanted persons from your kingdoms, I need to feed the babies when they arrive, so they can grow healthy and strong :)

[MaverickMunkey]

In about 11 hours I will have my first batch of Baby Dragons

Please keep quite, Do not want to disturb the delivery.

you are more than welcome to send me some present in the form of:
Knights, dukes, and any other unwanted persons from your kingdoms, I need to feed the babies when they arrive, so they can grow healthy and strong :)

you can have all my foot soldiers if you want!

[spectra]

you can have all my foot soldiers if you want!

Great!!!!, tell them to start WALKING!!....;)

My babies will appreciate them

[MaverickMunkey]

Great!!!!, tell them to start WALKING!!....;)

My babies will appreciate them

Already sent them - they will be arriving on Imps, Skeletal Beasts and Poison Spider just to give the dragon fledglings practice!

[GetItOn]

Bahaha! Nice job on the dragons though! Awesome. You are blazing the trail for the rest of us!!!

Not sure that's good, I tend to get lost easily!

[The1nONLY]

1350 dragons, can buy more but doesnt add to my stats anymore

[tcapi]

In about 11 hours I will have my first batch of Baby Dragons

Please keep quite, Do not want to disturb the delivery.

you are more than welcome to send me some present in the form of:
Knights, dukes, and any other unwanted persons from your kingdoms, I need to feed the babies when they arrive, so they can grow healthy and strong :)

Upgrade Den to level 10 at Level 145 is dun tough job! It has been a long journey, but well worth it. Congrats!

[Dexter Morgan]

Congrats spectra

[Tiki]

In about 11 hours I will have my first batch of Baby Dragons

Please keep quite, Do not want to disturb the delivery.

you are more than welcome to send me some present in the form of:
Knights, dukes, and any other unwanted persons from your kingdoms, I need to feed the babies when they arrive, so they can grow healthy and strong :)

Congratulations! Make sure you give them lots of exercise. A happy dragon is a tired dragon, and they love to sleep in big heaping piles of gold 😊

[Chimera.]

Congratulations! Make sure you give them lots of exercise. A happy dragon is a tired dragon, and they love to sleep in big heaping piles of gold Congrats on the dragons!

[John Snow]

In about 11 hours I will have my first batch of Baby Dragons

Please keep quite, Do not want to disturb the delivery.

you are more than welcome to send me some present in the form of:
Knights, dukes, and any other unwanted persons from your kingdoms, I need to feed the babies when they arrive, so they can grow healthy and strong :)

Wow, congrats! I don't think I know of anyone else on the forum who got BD 10 at a higher level than you. Big accomplishment.

[Great_wall2]

Phenomenal achievement Spectra! You can have a few of my clerics if you'd like! They make great tributes!

[Mantou]

In about 11 hours I will have my first batch of Baby Dragons

Please keep quite, Do not want to disturb the delivery.

you are more than welcome to send me some present in the form of:
Knights, dukes, and any other unwanted persons from your kingdoms, I need to feed the babies when they arrive, so they can grow healthy and strong :)

Congrats and I'm Sorry Spectra, mine high priest now is old and fat staying on camp without battle( replace by Hydras )
They need to take years to your kingdom :(

[Everson25]

I have just 455 dragons. I hope to reach 500 by Sunday.

Hey Spectra, congrat on BD10. We are allies but maybe you forgot that my username in KA is Wolverine.

[Njwmrb]

I am investing ALL into dragons so my attack continues to rise for boss events...can do big upgrades later.

I want to get both Manors to lvl 4, lenders to lvl 7, and Inns to lvl 10 before I start investing a lot into dragons.

[tcapi]

1 dragon, his name is Norbert.

[echus14]

I want to get both Manors to lvl 4, lenders to lvl 7, and Inns to lvl 10 before I start investing a lot into dragons.

Not good. Your first dragon should have been a girl. Now you'll have to sit on another egg until it hatches to see if you get a girl dragon. :p

[obi]

Hey all you dragon keepers - what's your Attack/defense density? (A or D divided by # of allies) I'm still 20 levels away from a breeding den, but have 88/143 density. I'm wondering if the game is structured so those who fight so hard to buy dragons end up weaker than a guy with full armor/weaps and just a bunch of dang ornithopters or some such.

[War Eagle]

Hey all you dragon keepers - what's your Attack/defense density? (A or D divided by # of allies) I'm still 20 levels away from a breeding den, but have 88/143 density. I'm wondering if the game is structured so those who fight so hard to buy dragons end up weaker than a guy with full armor/weaps and just a bunch of dang ornithopters or some such.

With the boosted stats, my A/D density is 131/174.
But I only have 75 dragons right now... So those numbers will climb when I start focusing on adding more.
(working on getting my water temple and beast kennel each to lvl 10)

[John Snow]

Hey all you dragon keepers - what's your Attack/defense density? (A or D divided by # of allies) I'm still 20 levels away from a breeding den, but have 88/143 density. I'm wondering if the game is structured so those who fight so hard to buy dragons end up weaker than a guy with full armor/weaps and just a bunch of dang ornithopters or some such.

There's nothing preventing someone with BD 10 from having dragons AND the the highest rated equipment.

[Hobtuse]

Hey all you dragon keepers - what's your Attack/defense density? (A or D divided by # of allies) I'm still 20 levels away from a breeding den, but have 88/143 density. I'm wondering if the game is structured so those who fight so hard to buy dragons end up weaker than a guy with full armor/weaps and just a bunch of dang ornithopters or some such.

Attack/Defense density is relevant possibly for your level up till the time where past level 100, absolute stats matter.

You can have the best A/D density at your current level (full armor/weapons and a bunch of mosquitoes). But that's like saying you have the strongest right hook in the playground for toddlers while people swing axes in the battlefield.

IMO the ratio is mostly meant for players to ascertain whether their current levels are ideal for going for certain upgrades and strategies.

[GetItOn]

Attack/Defense density is relevant possibly for your level up till the time where past level 100, absolute stats matter.

You can have the best A/D density at your current level (full armor/weapons and a bunch of mosquitoes). But that's like saying you have the strongest right hook in the playground for toddlers while people swing axes in the battlefield.

IMO the ratio is mostly meant for players to ascertain whether their current levels are ideal for going for certain upgrades and strategies.

Yep. Even under 100 it's only useful if you're calculating at max allies for your level.

[Dexter Morgan]

To me, you will need all to be successful in this game. So I'm breeding my dragons so I have a high enough attack to fend off 99% at my level, and then I will work on armor and weapons.

[Dr. Dengus]

I like to think of A/D density as unit density ( A/D divided by # of units brought to battle ). It tells you more about your army than just dividing it by your ally count. Figuring out your avg A/D value per unit is more meaningful than the average of 3 units (per ally) brought to battle, imho. That being said, Im making a dragon run with a defense density of 33.49 (per unit) or 100.47 (per ally) depending how you want to look at it.

[Calvarium]

Hey all you dragon keepers - what's your Attack/defense density? (A or D divided by # of allies) I'm still 20 levels away from a breeding den, but have 88/143 density. I'm wondering if the game is structured so those who fight so hard to buy dragons end up weaker than a guy with full armor/weaps and just a bunch of dang ornithopters or some such.

Well, I have dragons and full allies...
Per Dr. Dengus's method I have a A/D per UNIT density of 105/78
Per obi's method I have A/D per ALLY density of 316/234
if that helps anyone.
Weapons and armor are nice as they are indestructible, but they grow your density much slower per each very expensive purchase (even more slower if you have boosted stats). I plan on getting an all dragon army first then go back and supplement the W/A. Right now I have a couple hundred each of the top weapons and top armor, and I let PvE take care of the rest.

[MSH]

@ShawnBB: I consider lost gold as taxation for the path to Dragons. I got to Hydras and accumulated a ton of them before embarking on the BD 10. I did it at Level 120 and the whales here are a lot bigger than the ones swimming around you. Not really a fan of the "hide in cave at 50 and get to Dragons" strategy.

How did you manage to get around the whales, Hobtuse? I am level 147, A/D mid 90K, could probably tweak that to very low 100k, but the major whales are much stronger, than that. I do have hydras, but upgrading from them to the dragons require around 1 mln to reach BD9 and then around 1.5 mln to reach BD10 even with level10 lumber mill. You have proven that high level BD10 upgrade is possible and are an inspiration :), but the proposition is really tough, IMHO even with synchronization of all major payouts...
Did you need to sell any of your manors to speed up the process? Any tips? Thanks!

[MSH]

Just to clarify - the above A/D numbers are not boosted - regular/original stats

[tcapi]

Just to clarify - the above A/D numbers are not boosted - regular/original stats

BD10 at max Lumber mill is 1.71m.
Spectra did it at level 145, so it is absolutely doable, painful no doubt.

I found the followings useful,
1) form alliance with potential aggressors (those with Attack close or higher than your defence)
2) get lots of inexpensive attack units (i.e. Imp, Cat, Manticore), so you don't have to replenish them along the way.
3) Prepared all high value monsters in the maps into 1-hit, I accumulated almost 230k using this method.
4) stretch of time that you could play lots of KA uninterrupted.
5) Grow your economy big time. If you intend to do lots of PvP to get gold, stage your upgrade in between auction events. Players check their kingdom more frequent during events and clear their buildings regularly.
6) Be prepared to sell off manors (2x125,000 @ level 1) and lenders (2x25,000 @level 1), and any other money buildings if needed. They can be replaced easily.
7) of course max your lumber mill.

Good luck.

[Hobtuse]

BD10 at max Lumber mill is 1.71m.
Spectra did it at level 145, so it is absolutely doable, painful no doubt.

Everyone's journey to BD 10 is always a little unique and Spectra's journey was quite the amusing tale!
One thing we can all agree on is that getting to BD10 in whale territory is a painful but ultimately immensely satisfying experience.


How did you manage to get around the whales, Hobtuse? I am level 147, A/D mid 90K, could probably tweak that to very low 100k, but the major whales are much stronger, than that. I do have hydras, but upgrading from them to the dragons require around 1 mln to reach BD9 and then around 1.5 mln to reach BD10 even with level10 lumber mill. You have proven that high level BD10 upgrade is possible and are an inspiration :), but the proposition is really tough, IMHO even with synchronization of all major payouts...
Did you need to sell any of your manors to speed up the process? Any tips? Thanks!

I did my BD 9 and 10 upgrades with lumber mill at only level 6. Level 10 is very useful but I didn't get to it as the discount isn't worth the upgrade time given the opportunity cost of upgrading other income buildings instead.

Didn't sell any of my manors as they were at Level 2 and I am quite against selling upgraded buildings but I can see selling Level 1 manors as a way when you get close (a Lv 1 Manor will fetch 125k so two makes 250k)

You need a little luck for sure with the breeding den upgrades and I am no different. You have to accept that you will be taxed by the whales (DARTH etc.) at some point and hope they accept your allies request. But a really good defense is still required so that 95%/the rest of the field can't sneak in and get a piece of the pie.

I had quite a decent IPH coupled with a very aggressive raiding strategy. IMO the key is to reduce vault exposure to as low as possible. My vault was over the limit (>330k) for about 2 days for BD9 upgrade and 4 days for BD10 upgrade. Synchronization of major payouts goes a long way towards the goal but they do take time to set up. I did that for BD 9 but not for BD 10.

For my BD10 run, I was taxed on the last day where I lost about 300-400k to two players when I had 1.8m in bank. But I made up the gap in time to complete the upgrade.

Good luck and all the best :)

[ezinap]

I did my BD 9 and 10 upgrades with lumber mill at only level 6. Level 10 is very useful but I didn't get to it as the discount isn't worth the upgrade time given the opportunity cost of upgrading other income buildings instead.

Exactly my point, doing the lumber mill upgrade is no income, it is better considered a vault extension.

[Guido69]

I had my lumber mill at 1 all the way to BD10. The gold it would have saved I can find (raid) in a few hours.

[MSH]

BD10 at max Lumber mill is 1.71m.
Spectra did it at level 145, so it is absolutely doable, painful no doubt.

I found the followings useful,
1) form alliance with potential aggressors (those with Attack close or higher than your defence)
2) get lots of inexpensive attack units (i.e. Imp, Cat, Manticore), so you don't have to replenish them along the way.
3) Prepared all high value monsters in the maps into 1-hit, I accumulated almost 230k using this method.
4) stretch of time that you could play lots of KA uninterrupted.
5) Grow your economy big time. If you intend to do lots of PvP to get gold, stage your upgrade in between auction events. Players check their kingdom more frequent during events and clear their buildings regularly.
6) Be prepared to sell off manors (2x125,000 @ level 1) and lenders (2x25,000 @level 1), and any other money buildings if needed. They can be replaced easily.
7) of course max your lumber mill.

Good luck.

Thanks, Tcapi!
Did not know that Spectra had made it - should have been quite an ordeal...and a shiny beacon to us all :)

I am thinking along the lines you described, although I am sure that there would be some megawhales out there who I just don't know about now. Also, would probably avoid PvP, as at these levels if ppl exceed their maximum vaults they also likely to save for something -attacking seems to be somewhat unethical IMHO, but that's just my personal sentiment for a moment - this is just a game...

Will finish synchronizing all my pay offs and bumping up IPH somewhat - am around 10 k now + PvE big time all the time! Will report should/when I get my first dragon!

PS: at least, my lumber mill is lvl 10 - that makes life easier somewhat...

[MSH]

Everyone's journey to BD 10 is always a little unique and Spectra's journey was quite the amusing tale!
One thing we can all agree on is that getting to BD10 in whale territory is a painful but ultimately immensely satisfying experience.



I did my BD 9 and 10 upgrades with lumber mill at only level 6. Level 10 is very useful but I didn't get to it as the discount isn't worth the upgrade time given the opportunity cost of upgrading other income buildings instead.

Didn't sell any of my manors as they were at Level 2 and I am quite against selling upgraded buildings but I can see selling Level 1 manors as a way when you get close (a Lv 1 Manor will fetch 125k so two makes 250k)

You need a little luck for sure with the breeding den upgrades and I am no different. You have to accept that you will be taxed by the whales (DARTH etc.) at some point and hope they accept your allies request. But a really good defense is still required so that 95%/the rest of the field can't sneak in and get a piece of the pie.

I had quite a decent IPH coupled with a very aggressive raiding strategy. IMO the key is to reduce vault exposure to as low as possible. My vault was over the limit (>330k) for about 2 days for BD9 upgrade and 4 days for BD10 upgrade. Synchronization of major payouts goes a long way towards the goal but they do take time to set up. I did that for BD 9 but not for BD 10.

For my BD10 run, I was taxed on the last day where I lost about 300-400k to two players when I had 1.8m in bank. But I made up the gap in time to complete the upgrade.

Good luck and all the best :)

Thanks, Hobtuse - we all need a bit of luck here ( my scratch rewards were particularly subpar lately ;)), yet you and Spectra have shown that the dragon breeding could be started at high levels. Will try to follow suite :)

[Seek & destroy]

Can someone help me out new to ka.
Wats dragon breeding & were do u get the rocks
I c a lot of people have & wat do they do.i assume
There breeding caves.cheers FNG

[Dr. Dengus]

Can someone help me out new to ka.
Wats dragon breeding & were do u get the rocks
I c a lot of people have & wat do they do.i assume
There breeding caves.cheers FNG

Requires the Breeding Den (unit building unlocked @ lvl 50) upgraded to level 10 to start buying dragons.

[Seek & destroy]

Cheers for info is that what the rocks r as I c a lot of level 8 to 18 havese as well

[Dr. Dengus]

Cheers for info is that what the rocks r as I c a lot of level 8 to 18 havese as well

I'm not sure, I'd have to see a picture to know what you mean. It's a building you're talking about?

[Njwmrb]

I'm not sure, I'd have to see a picture to know what you mean. It's a building you're talking about?

I think he means the rubble of a raided building

[Dr. Dengus]

I think he means the rubble of a raided building

Ahh yeah that makes a lot more sense lol.

@Seek and destroy, just means that building was attacked successfully 3 times and is out of use until that player logs back in.

Feel free to ask any more questions about the game in this thread : http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?39234-Random-quot-quickie-quot-Questions

[Seek & destroy]

Cheers dr dengus much appreciated

[Hobtuse]

Hit the 1,000 Dragons mark :)

Also want to sound out a congrats to a player Riverstrong whom I believe made it to BD10 at the highest possible level for a free player at level 135-136.

[Everson25]

Hey Hobtuse! Soon your weakest unit will be the dragon. I hit 600 today. Long way to go but I'm happy with progress. Things were going fast but I went back to work and now I'm not raiding as much as before.

[GetItOn]

Hit the 1,000 Dragons mark :)

Also want to sound out a congrats to a player Riverstrong whom I believe made it to BD10 at the highest possible level for a free player at level 135-136.

You've been going on quite a tear lately, Mr. hobtuse.

[Guido69]

Just finished breeding my 500th dragon :)

[Hobtuse]

Hit the max mark for Dragons a few days ago :) :) :) :)

[Cloud22]

Nice Hobtuse congrats I just hit number 15

[YLL]

Hit the max mark for Dragons a few days ago

Congrats! :) I hope to get there in a few weeks, once I've worked my way up to level 100.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

SLOWLY but surely I am advancing my dragon kingdom. 338 and counting.... Would be AWESOME to win that 2.5m gold from a scratcher right now...

[spectra]

I am at 430 baby dragons so far

kind of hard to find unvaulted gold at level 159

[Cloud22]

I am at 430 baby dragons so far

kind of hard to find unvaulted gold at level 159What about those level 200 guys with 2 billion gold

[Dexter Morgan]

I got to 800 dragons and now buying battle axes and banneret plates

[Mattz0r]

What about those level 200 guys with 2 billion gold

i'm 200 with 29 mil lawl

[TemplarX]

I have 330 dragons now at level 61. Since my ally count is only 191, I can only bring 573 units to battle, so my army is more than half made up of dragons. At some point, I have to increase my ally count so that I expose my wyverns and imps as 'meat' units so I don't lose dragons as casualties.

I know there are probably a few players with stronger stats at this level, but at 42k/34k a/d, I haven't come across anyone stronger. Really enjoy blind attacking and hitting on the ocassional $9900 payout, and hounding those players who got on my kingdom news. If I get to 305 max allies, i think my attack should be around 46k...still not enough to get beyond boss #25, I think.

[sborgnanera]

the "hide in cave at 50 and get to Dragons" strategy.

That's the only smart strategy : impossible, without real money or cheating, to go over the 50th level if you don't be focused on this strategy !

All your manors and lenders have to be at the 6th level or more, silo, castle, leatherworker, playhouse, stable and taverne at 10th level

[Dhusagar]

I have 330 dragons now at level 61. Since my ally count is only 191, I can only bring 573 units to battle, so my army is more than half made up of dragons. At some point, I have to increase my ally count so that I expose my wyverns and imps as 'meat' units so I don't lose dragons as casualties.

I know there are probably a few players with stronger stats at this level, but at 42k/34k a/d, I haven't come across anyone stronger. Really enjoy blind attacking and hitting on the ocassional $9900 payout, and hounding those players who got on my kingdom news. If I get to 305 max allies, i think my attack should be around 46k...still not enough to get beyond boss #25, I think.

I am at level 60 with 55k attack and 260 dragons. I have decided to stop upgrading buildings and start buying dragons again.

[YLL]

I
Really enjoy blind attacking and hitting on the ocassional $9900 payout, and hounding those players who got on my kingdom news. If I get to 305 max allies, i think my attack should be around 46k...still not enough to get beyond boss #25, I think.

Are you the Katniss on my allies list? I don't recommend attacking blind if you're over-vault - a few dragon owners, including one with A70k, have tried that on me and lost a lot of gold as a result...


That's the only smart strategy : impossible, without real money or cheating, to go over the 50th level if you don't be focused on this strategy !

All your manors and lenders have to be at the 6th level or more, silo, castle, leatherworker, playhouse, stable and taverne at 10th level

Welcome to the forum. :) You asked for my e-mail address a while back to discuss your strategy, feel free to PM me here.

[-JAY-THE-ROBBER-]

Stupid and Boring........

[Njwmrb]

That's the only smart strategy : impossible, without real money or cheating, to go over the 50th level if you don't be focused on this strategy !

All your manors and lenders have to be at the 6th level or more, silo, castle, leatherworker, playhouse, stable and taverne at 10th level

If you got your manor to lvl 6 you should have no problem getting a lvl 10 breeding den...

[sborgnanera]

If you got your manor to lvl 6 you should have no problem getting a lvl 10 breeding den...

Sure, but you have a big problem to buy quickly your dragons...

[Njwmrb]

Not sure why everyone is in a rush to buy so many dragons, I can't imagine PVP being profitable with a max dragon army

Just buy enough to be one of the best on your rival list and ally up with anyone better than you

[sborgnanera]

i prefer to camp, it is relaxing ;-)

[Njwmrb]

i prefer to camp, it is relaxing ;-)

I'm all for staying out of whale territory but the profit margin is very low at 50's-60's. I can get on my rivals list at just about anytime and make 100k+ at my lvl if I have 30 mins or so to spare

EDIT: Just made 103k off a guy carrying more than he can defend. took 15 mins of going through rivals list/browsing forums. Lost a dragon though, so really made ~90k

[sborgnanera]

i've just checked Njwmrb : we are allied ;-)

[Njwmrb]

i've just checked Njwmrb : we are allied ;-)

Don't tell anyone I have unvaulted cash... :rolleyes: Going for lvl 5 manors

[sborgnanera]

what's your KA pseudo ? i can't see you in my list of allies...

[Njwmrb]

what's your KA pseudo ? i can't see you in my list of allies...

Njwmrb...? :confused:

[sborgnanera]

you're invisible :-(
do you see me ?

[Njwmrb]

you're invisible :-(
do you see me ?

I'm confused, I thought you said we were allied?

[Everson25]

I'm all for staying out of whale territory but the profit margin is very low at 50's-60's. I can get on my rivals list at just about anytime and make 100k+ at my lvl if I have 30 mins or so to spare

EDIT: Just made 103k off a guy carrying more than he can defend. took 15 mins of going through rivals list/browsing forums. Lost a dragon though, so really made ~90kwell, in my case 80s have been very profitable. I was getting players going for a run on BD so the gold was always good. I hope 90s will be like that too before heading to whale zone. I'm not still max with my dragons but I have a healthy number know.

[sborgnanera]

I'm confused, I thought you said we were allied?

Yes we are but i can't see you, that's strange...

[Njwmrb]

well, in my case 80s have been very profitable. I was getting players going for a run on BD so the gold was always good. I hope 90s will be like that too before heading to whale zone. I'm not still max with my dragons but I have a healthy number know.

Profits are only going to go up with lvling then I assume a drop off once you hit whale territory

[bgood]

The 80's seem to be a gold mine of PVP'ing. Plenty of level 10 siles LV1,2,3 manors, plus people making run's at BD8-10. I'm at LVL 84 with a BD8 camping (only pve for box events) till my IPH is better then going to go for the gold. Hoping to have BD10 before I hit level 90

[Bazi]

Just got my level 10 BD today, after 2 days of constant raiding/attacking. I am a free player, level 97, with 99 allies. I waited until I was able to have a full Hydra army, with around 20 units (from events, etc) that have better stats before I started the level 9 and 10 runs.

Attack is 28.4k, Defense 29.6K. I lost about 100k gold during the run, most (85k) to one player who attacked when I was about 100k away from getting enough to buy the level 10 BD upgrade. I lost about 30 Hydras during the run.

My IPH is only 6300, with level 10 Silos, level 5 Lenders and level 2 Manors. I have a level 10 Lumber Mill, so cost for level 10 BD was 1,710,000.

Saving up to start buying dragons in about 1.5 days :)

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Just got my level 10 BD today, after 2 days of constant raiding/attacking. I am a free player, level 97, with 99 allies. I waited until I was able to have a full Hydra army, with around 20 units (from events, etc) that have better stats before I started the level 9 and 10 runs.

Attack is 28.4k, Defense 29.6K. I lost about 100k gold during the run, most (85k) to one player who attacked when I was about 100k away from getting enough to buy the level 10 BD upgrade. I lost about 30 Hydras during the run.

My IPH is only 6300, with level 10 Silos, level 5 Manors and level 2 Manors. I have a level 10 Lumber Mill, so cost for level 10 BD was 1,710,000.

Saving up to start buying dragons in about 1.5 days :)

Congrats! Welcome to the club!

[Njwmrb]

The 80's seem to be a gold mine of PVP'ing. Plenty of level 10 siles LV1,2,3 manors, plus people making run's at BD8-10. I'm at LVL 84 with a BD8 camping (only pve for box events) till my IPH is better then going to go for the gold. Hoping to have BD10 before I hit level 90

I'm telling you it only gets better as you lvl, I made over 1 mill today. (Had 5 hours of Microbiology lectures to watch so did some PVP during). The only buildings I raid are Manors lvl 2+ and that's only if they happen to be in the screen, I don't bother looking all over everyone's base anymore. Although I did raid a lvl 10 manor today... first time I've done that.

*That being said it only gets better if you are a top player in your lvl range. Don't shoot up lvls if you can't compete

[sborgnanera]

You have 2 strategies :

first : BD10 as soon as possible, low IPH and raiding all the time

second : how to get a full dragon army (13k) + mail crushers (18k) + hawkslayer leather (17k) = 48k / each ?

for this, you have to collect to reach the 200th level, 200 * 3 * 5 * 48.000 = 144 M

to build this army in 5 month for instance, you have to collect around 1 million per day and it's too much, or too long to wait having all your buildings at level 10 as manors, lenders, playhouses...etc...

so you have to mix your strategy : first, maximize your IPH and then, go to BD10, WT10 and BK10, thus build a first army with 1.000 units/armors/weapons, so with a need of 50 Millions of gold

for me, and i'm waiting for yours comments, i'm gonna start to build my army when a reach Manors lvl 7, Lenders Lvl 6, Playhouse lvl 10, Leatherworker lvl 10, silo lvl 10, Inn lvl 8

today, i have manors lvl 5, lenders lvl 2, playgouse lvl 7, silo lvl 10, Inn lvl 1

[Hobtuse]

@sborgnanera: don't waste your time posting in this thread. your theories are fancy. my stats are real.

have fun upgrading *whatever* and don't post spam here thanks.

today, I have 1,500 dragons - real - if you want a challenge, get your BD 10 in whale territory.

[MaximumFun]

if you want a challenge, get your BD 10 in whale territory.

Agreed. Just started my BD 10 upgrade late yesterday, and I just levelled up to 137.

Thank you to all the forum posts for tips and strategies. A special thanks to a few forum and in-game allies who provided guidance and some shepherding past some aggressors. (already thanked you in-game, so I don't advertise your services to the general public, aka. "lurkers").

[Dexter Morgan]

Congrats maximum fun. That's a huge accomplishment

[Cloud22]

Congrats maximum fun

[sborgnanera]

if you want a challenge, get your BD 10 in whale territory.

be patient, be patient...this game has no end

[LiveHard]

Yea once you get to BD10 it changes the game completely on your priorities. I have spent the past several weeks just hatching beasts and am finally over 800 so a couple weeks to go. All gold goes to this endeavor whilst I upgrade low level buildings (and an occasional BK upgrade).

I did my BD10 run at level 100 with full complement of High Priests. I never did find a good spot for allies and ranged from 25 to 200 or so. I recommend being at full allies for anyone at higher levels.

Once I get close to 1500 Dragons my priorities will again change to higher cost upgrades. Eventually I will get a full complement of Weapons and Armor but that takes a long time and really is the end game (ie 1500 Weapons of 25+Attack, 1500 Weapons of 21+Defense... similar for Armor... but that is potentially 6000 different weapons...) Until then I will enjoy the Dragons and hunt for Manors/GoldMines and high level PVE loot.

Congratulations to everyone on making it to BD10, especially at higher levels. I think once there are enough Dragon Army owners out there it will become nearly impossible to get to BD10 if you don't do it early early in levels (without $ spent which is the great setup by Gree). Hopefully they will offer a high level defense unit soon. Otherwise with many Dragons roaming people will leave the game when they can't do anything over vault (this includes all of us Dragon owners)

[sborgnanera]

just a question : for how long have you been playing KA ?

[asdfg12345]

got bd10 at 118. It was quite uneventful. No one successfully attacked me and there was no increase in attacks either.

[Everson25]

Hey Hobtuse! I still don't have my full army of dragons but I reached a good mark this morning, my 1000th dragon. I will get there eventually...lol.

[Plugger]

Got almost 800 dragons and over 50 stronger indestructibles at 305 allies (full for my level). I'm a free player just recently getting the 20 gems a day by tapjoy. Now if only the dev would adjust the units stats for this boss event and the last auction event, I'd be that much closer to getting an optimum army.

[GetItOn]

Amazing how just a few months ago dragons seemed impossible for 98% of players. Now it's like everyone and their cousins have them now.

[asdfg12345]

Amazing how just a few months ago dragons seemed impossible for 98% of players. Now it's like everyone and their cousins have them now.
gree needs to come up with stronger units now cause people are gonna get bored soon enough

[Dexter Morgan]

gree needs to come up with stronger units now cause people are gonna get bored soon enough hopefully they come out with a stronger defense unit. I'd really like to have as close to a balanced army as possible

[Vapor]

Completed my BD10 run this morning! Whooo!!! Super happy! Now just trying to be patient for the next 40 hours or so until I can start hatching lil Dragon eggs! What a releif! :D

[MaximumFun]

Congrats, Vapor! Nicely done at level 100+!

[Shinazueli]

hopefully they come out with a stronger defense unit. I'd really like to have as close to a balanced army as possible

I really don't think they ever will give us a free unit with enough defense to make it balanced up there. If they did, then nobody would be able to attack. And that would make me a sad face panda.

[Ssne]

I am getting quite depressed reading this thread. I am L63 with 61K/46K and I simply cannot seem to get the gold saved to make BD10. I am at BD9 and have been for 3-4 weeks. Every time I get up to 800K gold or so someone very strong comes out of the woodwork and takes 150K from me. Then I have to buy more hydras and spend down my gold and ask to ally up...so far everyone has accepted my ally request but there always seems to be someone I've missed.

Anyone I can find in the attack list that's above 50K attack I ally with...but there's always someone. I am pretty strong for my level so I have no idea how you all are getting it done at L100+.

Please don't tell me high priest is the way to go as my WS is at L1 and I can't bear the thought of leveling it up to get the priests.

[Vapor]

Thanks MaximumFun, glad to finally be part of the club! lol

Ssne ... patience is part of it. People pass through the levels leaving you an opening to slip through. Keep building your army and your buildings in the meantime. It will all help speed you to your goal. I allied with anyone stronger than myself and kept building until there really wasn't anyone as strong as I was by quite a bit. Sure, every once in awhile some big gem spender comes in and spoils your run, but thats the fun of the game. You never know when you are going to make it and it feels so awesome when you finally do! Hang in there, you'll get it!

[Shinazueli]

I am getting quite depressed reading this thread. I am L63 with 61K/46K and I simply cannot seem to get the gold saved to make BD10. I am at BD9 and have been for 3-4 weeks. Every time I get up to 800K gold or so someone very strong comes out of the woodwork and takes 150K from me. Then I have to buy more hydras and spend down my gold and ask to ally up...so far everyone has accepted my ally request but there always seems to be someone I've missed.

Anyone I can find in the attack list that's above 50K attack I ally with...but there's always someone. I am pretty strong for my level so I have no idea how you all are getting it done at L100+.

Please don't tell me high priest is the way to go as my WS is at L1 and I can't bear the thought of leveling it up to get the priests.


If you have hydras you don't need HPs. What's your IPH? You really should be able to do the run in 5 days or less(with raiding), if you can't, you're tempting fate too much. That's around 10k real IPH. Are you at maximum allies with max hydras and at least some weapons & armor for all units? Is your LM maxed out? Honestly, if you can't make the run, then your D is too low.

Lets see, 63 x 5 = 315 allies. Assuming max allies, that's a defense density of 46k/315 (also assuming your attacker is maxed) which means you're at around 150 defense density. I think that's rather low. So either you don't have enough hydras, or you aren't at max allies with full hydras. At your level, I'd want closer to your attack number as my defense before I started running over vault like that.

Also, most people aren't complete a$$hats, don't spend down right away. Try to ally first, remember you have two hours of "too weak to fight" protection before you can get hit again.

Another thought, what's your BK at? It should be at least 6/7, I think you don't need to go overvault for that. If a large chunk of your D is coming from hydras, that can be very helpful. And you'll want it up for dragons anyways.

Hmm, have you checked your attackers out? I mean, you may just be sitting on a bad stretch of dragon campers growing up, or you might have gotten a run of bad luck with heavy gem spenders. Either one can ruin your run, and there's nothing you can do about either, other than shortening your run and praying.

But honestly, I think an army full of basilisks with reg armor/weapons could hit you, need to check my calculator. And that's bad news for you.

Edit : yeah just ran the numbers 55*945=51k and change. So a max ally player who has never gone over vault (bd5) could hit you with an army full of basilisks and no weapons/armor. And before you tell me you're not max allies, they can probably still see you.

[Ssne]

If you have hydras you don't need HPs. What's your IPH? You really should be able to do the run in 5 days or less(with raiding), if you can't, you're tempting fate too much. That's around 10k real IPH. Are you at maximum allies with max hydras and at least some weapons & armor for all units? Is your LM maxed out? Honestly, if you can't make the run, then your D is too low.

Lets see, 63 x 5 = 315 allies. Assuming max allies, that's a defense density of 46k/315 (assuming you're maxed) which means you're at around 150 defense density. I think that's rather low. So either you don't have enough hydras, or you aren't at max allies with full hydras. At your level, I'd want closer to your attack number as my defense before I started running over vault like that.

Also, most people aren't complete a$$hats, don't spend down right away. Try to ally first, remember you have two hours of "too weak to fight" protection before you can get hit again.

Another thought, what's your BK at? It should be at least 6/7, I think you don't need to go overvault for that. If a large chunk of your D is coming from hydras, that can be very helpful. And you'll want it up for dragons anyways.

Hmm, have you checked your attackers out? I mean, you may just be sitting on a bad stretch of dragon campers growing up, or you might have gotten a run of bad luck with heavy gem spenders. Either one can ruin your run, and there's nothing you can do about either, other than shortening your run and praying.

But honestly, I think an army full of basilisks with reg armor/weapons could hit you, need to check my calculator. And that's bad news for you.

Five days? No clue how I would do that as there is nothing to hit at my level (other than me seemingly). IPH is 9500. I only have 100 hydras as I was trying to not waste a lot on hydras knowing I would replace with dragons. BK is only on 1. Most of my army is machine so I have been leveling up the engineering boost instead.

I think you are right the defense is too low...most are early dragon breeders so I would think they take pretty big losses hitting me but I guess the 150k gained is worth it.

[Shinazueli]

Five days? No clue how I would do that as there is nothing to hit at my level (other than me seemingly). IPH is 9500. I only have 100 hydras as I was trying to not waste a lot on hydras knowing I would replace with dragons. BK is only on 1. Most of my army is machine so I have been leveling up the engineering boost instead.

I think you are right the defense is too low...most are early dragon breeders so I would think they take pretty big losses hitting me but I guess the 150k gained is worth it.

Honestly, it really does take 4-6 months to build up to dragons as a free player. Most people here have that kind of patience. Most people in the game do not. Just take it slow and steady, I think it took me seven months because I was dumb early on and leveled all the early unit buildings to 10.

And the casualty rate is effectively nothing compared to MW lol.

In your shoes I'd park a tent peg down, wouldn't raid or Pve except to trigger the boss. Get to max allies, if you aren't already. Stay under vault, and develop your army by purchasing hydras until your density is at least 250. Level the BK up to 7(?), the one that's just under vault, (that's 14 PERCENT more defense if you're full hydra). Level the LM, if you haven't already. If somehow you end up with more money than you can spend in the time period after you finish hydras but before you finish the building upgrades, buy some armor. If you follow all this advice, I'd be surprised if you get touched at all when you make your run in a month, month.5. Good luck!

[cottonball2k1]

Five days? No clue how I would do that as there is nothing to hit at my level (other than me seemingly). IPH is 9500. I only have 100 hydras as I was trying to not waste a lot on hydras knowing I would replace with dragons. BK is only on 1. Most of my army is machine so I have been leveling up the engineering boost instead.

I think you are right the defense is too low...most are early dragon breeders so I would think they take pretty big losses hitting me but I guess the 150k gained is worth it.

Are you at full allies? could consider dropping some if you don't have enough hydra or HP.

i was at lvl 52 going for BD10 run and i had to drop my allies count way down since i didn't have enough HP, armor or weapons to back up my defense. and yes, not much to raid at that level.

[Ssne]

Are you at full allies? could consider dropping some if you don't have enough hydra or HP.

i was at lvl 52 going for BD10 run and i had to drop my allies count way down since i didn't have enough HP, armor or weapons to back up my defense. and yes, not much to raid at that level.

Good points from you and shin. I am full ally, droppings down makes sense but then I am weak for the boss. Did you have to take a boss or two off while you did it?

[cottonball2k1]

Good points from you and shin. I am full ally, droppings down makes sense but then I am weak for the boss. Did you have to take a boss or two off while you did it?

yeah. but in my case, makes sense for me to drop allies since i have only 300 weapons and 300 armor and 250 HP so allies were not helping that much. took about a week and a bit over the vault to save up for BD10.

but IMHO, i found the level gain and the units i get out of boss event not worthwhile considering most are weaker than dragons anyways esp during a BD10 run. but tedious to re-add all the allies back again after done with BD10.

[Shinazueli]

Are you at full allies? could consider dropping some if you don't have enough hydra or HP.

i was at lvl 52 going for BD10 run and i had to drop my allies count way down since i didn't have enough HP, armor or weapons to back up my defense. and yes, not much to raid at that level.

Honestly, I can't think of worse advice for a bd10 run. Yes, you will be more dense at lower allies. But all of the people wrecking your runs now can STILL see you all the way down to like 200 allies. You going overvault that low is just giving them free money. I know, I see it all the time. There's no easy way out, you just gotta suck it up.

Now, I'm not saying its not possible. But you'll have to get even luckier, because your defense will be lower. It just makes it harder.

A good rule of thumb is that if someone has less than three times your ally count, they can probably see you. That single fact is why (free) camping should be done at max allies.

[Bazi]

I did my run with 99 allies (at level 96/97) and full hydra army. I don't see any reason at your level to max allies unless you have the strong units to support that many allies as the more aggressive players are up there. Things are pretty quite in the middle around the 100 allies level. You will also use the hydra army until you replace them with dragon, and may use the again when you ad more allies.

My IPH was/is only around 6k per hour. My stamina was 20, so I raided as much as I could, and got the amounts needed for BD 9 and BD 10 in 2 to 3 days. I also recommend you make your run during the week, rather than the weekend as people are on less and you have a better chance to raid and not be raided/attacked.

Only one person attacked and started taking my gold - since I was on at the time, I simply sent them a message and asked them to please stop. They took a little more and sent their code to ally up. I lost about 80k to them, otherwise no problems.

Good luck on your run, it is really a big relief when you start the BD 10 upgrade :)

[Shinazueli]

I did my run with 99 allies (at level 96/97) and full hydra army. I don't see any reason at your level to max allies unless you have the strong units to support that many allies as the more aggressive players are up there. Things are pretty quite in the middle around the 100 allies level. You will also use the hydra army until you replace them with dragon, and may use the again when you ad more allies.

My IPH was/is only around 6k per hour. My stamina was 20, so I raided as much as I could, and got the amounts needed for BD 9 and BD 10 in 2 to 3 days. I also recommend you make your run during the week, rather than the weekend as people are on less and you have a better chance to raid and not be raided/attacked.

Only one person attacked and started taking my gold - since I was on at the time, I simply sent them a message and asked them to please stop. They took a little more and sent their code to ally up. I lost about 80k to them, otherwise no problems.

Good luck on your run, it is really a big relief when you start the BD 10 upgrade :)

Look, I get it, you got lucky at 98 allies. I'm giving the safe advice, the one that virtually guarantees success. If you want to risk it, it is possible. But that full basilisk army is out there, and I'm almost certain he can see you. Just a matter of luck.

On another note, the during the week was good advice. Most people have jobs or school and less time to troll the rivals list looking for people like you then.

[YLL]

Honestly, I can't think of worse advice for a bd10 run. Yes, you will be more dense at lower allies. But all of the people wrecking your runs now can STILL see you all the way down to like 200 allies. You going overvault that low is just giving them free money. I know, I see it all the time. There's no easy way out, you just gotta suck it up.

Now, I'm not saying its not possible. But you'll have to get even luckier, because your defense will be lower. It just makes it harder.

A good rule of thumb is that if someone has less than three times your ally count, they can probably see you. That single fact is why (free) camping should be done at max allies.

Actually, I'd say that it depends on what level you're at. At L50-51, a low-ally high-density strategy can/did work extremely well. I would not recommend this strategy significantly past that point as the banding widens out quite a bit. Currently, at 360 allies, I can sometimes see into the low 100s.

[cottonball2k1]

Honestly, I can't think of worse advice for a bd10 run. Yes, you will be more dense at lower allies. But all of the people wrecking your runs now can STILL see you all the way down to like 200 allies. You going overvault that low is just giving them free money. I know, I see it all the time. There's no easy way out, you just gotta suck it up.

Now, I'm not saying its not possible. But you'll have to get even luckier, because your defense will be lower. It just makes it harder.

A good rule of thumb is that if someone has less than three times your ally count, they can probably see you. That single fact is why (free) camping should be done at max allies.

Whats the point of full allies if u dont have the units. Bringing 700 soldiers or whatever is low stats with no weapon or armor is pretty useless since ur stat boost is meaningless. but if u got full army with decent stats, then go full ally by all means. Depends on ur army.

[asdfg12345]

just max ally with high priests. Its pretty easy to get alot of em since they arent that expensive.

[sborgnanera]

just max ally with high priests. Its pretty easy to get alot of em since they arent that expensive.

me too, with temple level 5 and water temple level 3

[RandomUser]

Getting back to the original thread topic, I just slipped past 1,000 dragons this weekend.

I had my foot off the gas for over 2 weeks trying not to level past 100, so it feels good to unleash my brood on some PvP again. My effective income almost doubles when I have time to hunt for unguarded gold and uncollected buildings. I originally thought it would take my until the New Year to max out my dragon army, but now I think I can achieve it by Christmas. I will miss earning worthwhile boss units, though. I'm not sure I'll even take out boss #10 now.

[dudeman]

I was a day or two off from affording BD10, and then that Cat b!tch decided to come along and set me back a week. :mad:

So today I sold my manors, lenders, and shipyards and did this:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/ShredderBoris/ecfb82c33ecc82f466a8099496a54a5b.jpg

[Elderly]

Congrats Dudeman, now to build your economy back up and get those money buildings back.

[dudeman]

Already have a lender being rebuilt.

And the kingdom planner that I looked at incorrectly lists build time as 24 hours. The correct time is 30 hours.

[bgood]

Congrats Dudeman. I buiilt up my economy 8500+ iph (non cottage based) so i'm starting my BD9 run and going straight to BD10 at 68k ATT / 85k DEF at LVL 87. Hopefully there arent too many bumps in the road

[Dexter Morgan]

Congrats dudeman. What level is cat?

[albeezy]

Congrats dudeman. What level is cat?
If I had to guess I would say 52-57. A serial raider and attacker. Has a lot of gem units. Had Cat on my newsfeed after an attack (luckily only got 13k) and I checked regularly to make sure cat was leveling. When cat hit 50 a breeding den went up but never saw it upgraded to level 2.

[dudeman]

Congrats dudeman. What level is cat?

57 and a heavy gem spender. 91k/8Xk with BD only at level 1.

[BadNews]

57 and a heavy gem spender. 91k/8Xk with BD only at level 1.
I found another Cat. level 56, 103k/86k with BD level 10. x464 Dragons

[Ratma2001]

Actually, I'd say that it depends on what level you're at. At L50-51, a low-ally high-density strategy can/did work extremely well. I would not recommend this strategy significantly past that point as the banding widens out quite a bit. Currently, at 360 allies, I can sometimes see into the low 100s.

So if i am at level 99 with crap 41A/42D and BD @ 5 and start my run i should loose the allies to stay safe and then do the run ? or stay at full allies and get hit at this level ? as i got to keen and starting attacking everything at the time without thinking ahead (DERR) just working on getting my vault to maximum and doing Invades where possible !

[echus14]

I found another Cat. level 56, 103k/86k with BD level 10. x464 Dragons

I think there are a few Cats around the Level 50s, but at least one of them is definitely causing waves (probably the gem player that's been mentioned). I recently allied on request another Cat and now she seems to be in a cat fight (pun totally intended) with what seems to be the gem player ... who apparently won't ally.

[YLL]

So if i am at level 99 with crap 41A/42D and BD @ 5 and start my run i should loose the allies to stay safe and then do the run ? or stay at full allies and get hit at this level ? as i got to keen and starting attacking everything at the time without thinking ahead (DERR) just working on getting my vault to maximum and doing Invades where possible !

No, quite the opposite. If I can see low 100s when at near full allies for my level, those with strong stats but somewhat less allies (say 250s) should be able to see into the (say) 50s. So, what you need to do if you are considering a low ally strategy is to find out from people with different ally counts at your level what they can see.

Also, reducing allies will only work as a tactic if your density rises enough that only the strongest players can beat you (there'll always be some, you just have to ally them).

[The1nONLY]

Ally high level players FTW. And to be safe

[dudeman]

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/ShredderBoris/a55e6cfd77aedb6b04d18489469e91f0.jpg

I've already rebuilt three of the six buildings I sold to afford the BD10 upgrade. Will start second lender tonight, then all that's left are the manors.

Too bad I may not be playing Gree games much longer. Just about to lose my patience with the endless bullsh!t.

[Dexter Morgan]

Congrats dudeman. I'm sure you can't wait to start hatching them

[dudeman]

Congrats dudeman. I'm sure you can't wait to start hatching them

I should be excited but the truth is, I am so fed up with Gree's bullsh!t right now that I don't even care.

My finger is figuratively hovering over the delete button for all of their games.

[Dexter Morgan]

Don't do it bro. Just don't spend any $ on the game and then you lose nothing but time

[sborgnanera]

I've already rebuilt three of the six buildings I sold

how much do you recover when you sold, for instance, a manor level 5 ? 4.470.000 (total gold cost up to this level) ?

[Black Knight]

I always was one of the last to come to the party......


http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o696/Soundpost/DB1FB90C-7DB2-4D54-97DF-63666F5FBF82-28974-000017DA2E4E8C7D.jpg


Pretty ironic I did it on Level 69 as I screwed a lot of rivals out of gold.....

[echus14]

how much do you recover when you sold, for instance, a manor level 5 ? 4.470.000 (total gold cost up to this level) ?

You only get back half of what you paid for the level 5 upgrade (ie, do not count what you paid for lvls 1 thru 4). Ignore any effect of the lumber mill. Not worth selling a lvl 5 manor for a BD.

[sborgnanera]

Not worth selling a lvl 5 manor for a BD

sure ! that was only a suggestion...

[Dexter Morgan]

Congrats bk!!

[kruppe]

Joined the dragon breeders club in the nineties
I was hit few times in the early run to bd10
And then nothing...kruppe surprised
Slowly breeding dragons where the gold pops over the 330k vault limit
Up to approx 500

[willb125]

Joined the club last week. Level 75. Only 20 so far, but loving it!

Props to Evilcloak. He hit me twice when I was at roughly 900k, saw I was going for BD 10 and stopped.

[RandomUser]

I've halted my dragon breeding program at around 1,000 dragons to concentrate on manor upgrades. I'm in a good pocket right now where I've only seen 1 person at my level in a week that could pose any serious threat, and their defense is well below my attack, so it wouldn't be all that good an idea for them to antagonize me. Should they try anything funny, I can unload my extra cash and pick up a serious quantity of dragons to spend weeks punishing them. Likewise, if a bigger shark rolls into town and puts the hurt on me, the automatic shutdown safety feature ("The player is too weak to invade") should limit my damages quite nicely until I can unload the cash or make a peace treaty.

In the meantime, I think it's best to get my manor groove on before I hit whale territory. I started a level 6 upgrade a couple days ago and will keep pushing up and up as time goes on. And while I raid, I'll replace the dragons I lose, but it'll be a good way to burn through all those hydras, basilisks, manticores, and imps I'd stockpiled on my BD10 run. Who knows - I may burn through enough to start liquidating high priests!

[Icewulf]

New to the Dragon Breeders Guild, still only at 285... more to come! :D

[Proprioc3ption]

Just bred my first dragon!
IT HAS BEGUN!!!

[Hello Kitty]

Just bred my first dragon!
IT HAS BEGUN!!!Woohoo! Congrats Pro!

[MaximumFun]

just bred my first dragon!
It has begun!!!

unleash the fury!

[Xenjahr]

New member of the club !

[MaximumFun]

New member of the club !

Congrats! Welcome to the fold!

[bgood]

Just clicked off upgrade to BD10 and dragons here i come!! Special thanks to the board regs for advice and accepting ally requests. Didnt have to sell any lenders or manors either. Big props to Gree for the Templer unit that 20% extra was clutch.

[albeezy]

Just hatched my first 36 dragons! Ya baby. Now to buy 700 more!

[jonny0284]

The "chicks" are no joke on the $.

I'm only at 70, myself. Been doing a few (cough) rebuilding of structures.


Props to both you guys for making the run! :D

[Proprioc3ption]

Just hatched my first 36 dragons! Ya baby. Now to buy 700 more!

Awesome Albeezy! Breed breed breed!
I've got over 120 myself now and would luv to have between 700-1000 by around mid January. So stoked your at BD10, great work!

[Greybeard]

Unfortunately I didn't figure out until way too late that the whole purpose of this game was to get to BD10. Trying to go over vaulted with all these "kill your rival 32 times" events going on makes it impossible to save up when you are in the 100 plus level. If someone has a sure fire way to get there (besides buying gold) please post or PM me. Thanks in advance for any suggestions! 8)

[albeezy]

Awesome Albeezy! Breed breed breed!
I've got over 120 myself now and would luv to have between 700-1000 by around mid January. So stoked your at BD10, great work!
I have 56 in the first 12 hours! Stats increasing oh so nicely. 650 or less and my stats should stop increasing after purchasing a new one! I love going to dragon town on the BD10 train!