Am I Reading This Correctly?

[PawnXIIX]

Okay, so with the new data out right now (9/25) there was an image released that showed two images that were to be hunted for in the new event. The "Snitch Notes" and the "Bullets" for the upcoming Invasion Event. Now I was also poking around and when I get bored I decide to write programs and I came up with a program that very simply turns the one line .json files into readable, well spaced files.

In one of the files I found this block of text:


{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.02, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 1, "id": 479},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.06, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 26, "id": 480},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.1, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 51, "id": 481},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.14, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 76, "id": 482},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.18, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 101, "id": 483},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.22, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 126, "id": 484},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.26, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 151, "id": 485},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.3, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 176, "id": 486},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.34, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 201, "id": 487},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.38, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 226, "id": 488},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.42, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 251, "id": 489},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.46, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 276, "id": 490},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.52, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 301, "id": 491},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.6, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 351, "id": 492},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.68, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 401, "id": 493},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.76, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 451, "id": 494},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.8, "item_id": 1285, "min_energy_required": 501, "id": 495},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.08, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 1, "id": 496},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.24, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 26, "id": 497},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.3, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 51, "id": 498},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.42, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 76, "id": 499},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.45, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 101, "id": 500},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.55, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 126, "id": 501},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.59, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 151, "id": 502},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.6, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 176, "id": 503},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.68, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 201, "id": 504},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.76, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 226, "id": 505},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.84, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 251, "id": 506},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.92, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 276, "id": 507},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.92, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 301, "id": 508},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.92, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 351, "id": 509},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.92, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 401, "id": 510},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.92, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 451, "id": 511},
{"event_id": 27, "is_available": "true", "drop_rate": 0.92, "item_id": 1286, "min_energy_required": 501, "id": 512}

Now if i'm reading that right...it's basically saying that for each of those items, exists that particular drop rate depending on the minimum energy that is put into that job. Ranging from .02 (2%) at 1-25 energy all the way up to .92 (92%) at 501+ energy (boss fights) per tap.

So maybe somebody would like to respond and say yes i'm reading this correctly, or i'm insane or something to that degree because i've never seen any specifics so far detailing the exact drop rates and this gives us somewhat of a window to determine the best jobs to hit for the start of the event in terms of getting enough boxes. Honestly most of my boxes come from PVP, however it is nice to get a quick start in these events.

Somebody care to evaluate?


.:|1000th post! |:.

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[balax]

this is exctly what you describe
This reverses the theory that it is better to choose the jobs that require more energy.
I know many will disagree, but if you do some math will readily understand that the best job is the one that requires 26 energy. (Litle Italy/ apartments)
Doing this job u have 6% chances to get a box.
so u need 26/6%=433 energy/ box or
2.3 boxes /1000 energy
for example a job that requires 301 energy,
gives you 52% chances to get a box.
that means 301/52% =579 energy/box
or 1.72 boxes/1000 energy

[PawnXIIX]

I also found some other interesting facts in the current data...seems that certain levels have longer than 2 hours cooldown on fights :)

Should I post everything I find in a topic or just...no?

[Ghost818]

I also found some other interesting facts in the current data...seems that certain levels have longer than 2 hours cooldown on fights :)

Should I post everything I find in a topic or just...no?
New thread with a catchy name.

IMO this is great work man.

[PawnXIIX]

I should be bored more often then :P

[CitrineMondeoRSi]

The City Bus at Empire Airport is a very good start point should you wish to be harvesting boxes from PvE IMO. Not only does it drop a box pretty much 2 from every 3 clicks @ 285 energy, but also drops Double Deckers at a decent rate too. Double score.

[PawnXIIX]

The City Bus at Empire Airport is a very good start point should you wish to be harvesting boxes from PvE IMO. Not only does it drop a box pretty much 2 from every 3 clicks @ 285 energy, but also drops Double Deckers at a decent rate too. Double score.

Double Deckers got hit with the nerf hammer. Honestly you'd be better off farming Empire Central Buses at the Red Light District for 171 energy. I'm sure a lot of people here would agree ^^ I only managed 5 Double Deckers before I moved onto more frequent items. Such as the ECB which I currently have 57 of, and that's not even a lot compared to some other people ._.'

Double Deckers would be a more viable option if we had mutli-click jobs back (meaning there was a chance for the item to drop on each click rather than just the last one) however that basically paved the way for some of the best drops to be single click items like the Urban Warfare Vest. I have farmed 154 so far :3

[Populouspapa]

I also found some other interesting facts in the current data...seems that certain levels have longer than 2 hours cooldown on fights :)

Should I post everything I find in a topic or just...no?

3 hours for the first 8-10 lvls? plists is easier to read if you dont have a json parser..

[Jian Carlo]

Sh/t I need glasses or at least get out of my "funny day" mode. As I read your thread and I jumped pass all the code crap (cos I don't understand it) and then seen your PARTY picture I thought it was a joke and the codes when all deciphered resulted in the party picture.

Then I read the other posts and realised it was in fact sensible codes...... Lol sorry ...... doh

I certainly wasnt reading it correctly lol

[CitrineMondeoRSi]

I'm on the ECB's already Pawn but find the box drop fairly poor, despite the above stats that you've found so switch back to the DD's for events. Urban Warfare Vests? Now this sounds mighty interesting, looks like I need to investigate further... Currently lvl 123 rocking 24k att and 23k def w/no gold, always up for new ideas when it comes to a bit of farming. Cheers :cool:

[Ghost818]

I remember my UWV, I was farming DDs then the Beginning of the End happened (my title of this era of the forum) moved on to farming UWVs and became so miserable I quit the game and forum for a while.

[PawnXIIX]

3 hours for the first 8-10 lvls? plists is easier to read if you dont have a json parser..

I wrote an entire read/write program in about 4 minutes just to break it up and make it all legible from the .json files. I probably could have just found one online but hey...what's the fun in that? :D


Sh/t I need glasses or at least get out of my "funny day" mode. As I read your thread and I jumped pass all the code crap (cos I don't understand it) and then seen your PARTY picture I thought it was a joke and the codes when all deciphered resulted in the party picture.

The picture was because that was my 1,000th post :3


Currently lvl 123 rocking 24k att and 23k def w/no gold, always up for new ideas when it comes to a bit of farming. Cheers :cool:

Might want to go get a couple million and start hitting Ma Sheng in the Black Market. 20x576 with a guarantee of a Reinforced Tonfa (24/19) at the least. I have 16 Reinforced Tonfas as well as 2 Experimental Mech Suits (17/33) so far.

[mxz]

I did some graphing on this and figured 301-350 was the sweet spot since I don't want to click 50 times to get a drop from a 24En job.

[mxz]

It should be noted those are the standard rates for boxes - not necessarily what we'll get for invasions.

[Populouspapa]

It should be noted those are the standard rates for boxes - not necessarily what we'll get for invasions.

Thats what.... She Said?

[CitrineMondeoRSi]

Realistically, how do you find the item box drop rate for Ma Sheng Pawn? I had a VERY good look at it as soon as BM unlocked due to the guaranteed item drop, even paying the entry fee and hitting the first 3 clicks. I've slowed right down and only do storyline levels during the events at present - with an energy bar at 2250 I only get just under 4 shots at a time. Is it 2 or 3 boxes from 3 hits every time? The DD job gives me a great head start stockpiling boxes for the events as its approx 2/3 for 285 energy, I can rustle up 15 or so in the first day. Or I could start on the DD job then switch to MS after I've stockpiled a safe amount of boxes... That'd be an idea. Thinking while I type. I'll shut up now.

[Babytway]

I'm on the ECB's already Pawn but find the box drop fairly poor, despite the above stats that you've found so switch back to the DD's for events. Urban Warfare Vests? Now this sounds mighty interesting, looks like I need to investigate further... Currently lvl 123 rocking 24k att and 23k def w/no gold, always up for new ideas when it comes to a bit of farming. Cheers :cool:

forget ECBs and double deckers. exceleros for attack31 and govt limo for defense 24 is the only way to go.

* sorry for going off topic

[Polarbear]

forget ECBs and double deckers. exceleros for attack31 and govt limo for defense 24 is the only way to go.

* sorry for going off topic

Or looting street envys (27/24) while going for RPGs for 35 attack would give a larger gain. (Assuming you're replacing m4s)