High Level people sucking up gold from HACKERS

[Winstrol]

It seems that Gree don't even care what is going in GAME any more , I have notice that for over couple of weeks that high level people are sucking gold from hackers which usually has over 100mil gold on their account , and it's always the same people that attack these hacker , isn't that strange for you ?

[Joie]

How do you know they are attacking hacked accounts

[Winstrol]

they post all information on their walls , seriously guy with level 200 1 ally and over 150mil gold isnt so suspicious ?

[Winstrol]

Here's example one of these guys , im sure it would take 20 years to buy all these dragons and hydras with his income
http://i50.tinypic.com/21amm3s.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/11tbyfo.png

[Mervic]

Some just wont play fair. It makes the game unattractive to other players to keep playing because of these cheaters.

[Hobtuse]

Hi can you guys please report these hackers/cheaters to Support even if Support takes very long to do something about it?

I know it's troublesome but do appreciate if everyone can just take some action about these hackers.

[Gilgamesh]

Some just wont play fair. It makes the game unattractive to other players to keep playing because of these cheaters.

I agree completely. That picture just about ruined the game for me, I sure won't be buying gems.

[echus14]

Yes, please report to Support. And get them to redistribute all the gold and dragons too!! :D

[Mantou]

Hi can you guys please report these hackers/cheaters to Support even if Support takes very long to do something about it?

I know it's troublesome but do appreciate if everyone can just take some action about these hackers.


This type of player have been 1 1/2 to 2 months ago i saw that, and mostly their gold is count on millions with low ally around 110-130 lvls ( now should be very high ).

And another types is can 1 time build more then 5 building, and aslo upgrade can see the lvl all be the same.

Too bad, seen like there's ton of hacker in this game.

[Dexter Morgan]

Hackers really ruin the games for everyone. Hopefully gree takes it serious and removes them before they take over the games and drive away their revenue

[Talkazar]

That some of these accounts have been around for months and are still active shows the extent to which Gree is 'having difficulties' dealing with it. That they do not even seem to red flag and check out accounts that mysteriously appear at level 200, or have 100 million gold (let alone 200 million gold and with the IPH of a level 1 cottage) also shows the 'difficulties'.

That said, if I were to catch one of these accounts in an unevolved state I'd be taking my 200,000 gold as well. Call it partial compensation for the frustrations of this game.

[The1nONLY]

It seems that Gree don't even care what is going in GAME any more , I have notice that for over couple of weeks that high level people are sucking gold from hackers which usually has over 100mil gold on their account , and it's always the same people that attack these hacker , isn't that strange for you ?Whats wrong with attacking/raiding these people with millions of gold? If they hack to get gold... Why dont they hack to get gems? Coz these guys with millions of gold never have gem units

[Winstrol]

Whats wrong with attacking/raiding these people with millions of gold? If they hack to get gold... Why dont they hack to get gems? Coz these guys with millions of gold never have gem units
Gold is hackable since you can get it from monster and builds , and gems you cant get

[jeffelms]

It is possible for this person to buy that many dragons very fast if they are buying gold instead of gems. If that is the case they are not cheating. I've read other people say on here that is acutually more cost effective to buy gold rather than gems. I agree that it looks suspicious though. Report them and let Gree decide. Crime City Mark said that on here a while back that most of the reports they get for cheaters are not cheating.

[Talkazar]

A mountain of gold gets you 120*your IPH. So with his IPH of 918 he would get about 110,000 gold, or about 8.5 dragons. A mountain. So that would require 212 mountains just for the dragons. He'd also have max store-bought weapons and armor. They cost even more. So he'll have spent $60,000+. He will not however have bought a single gem.

Oh and if you think he legitimately made L200 with those wins and enemies killed...

As an aside, another one I saw last week had 277 million gold and an IPH of 42 (ie one cottage). Somehow I don't think he spent $5.3 million just so people could take it off him (because as it happened he had the base of a level 5, and therefore no good defensive units).

The other possibility is that its Gree's supersecret program for accelerated development. If so, they probably should mention it sometime.

[Hobtuse]

It is possible for this person to buy that many dragons very fast if they are buying gold instead of gems. If that is the case they are not cheating. I've read other people say on here that is acutually more cost effective to buy gold rather than gems. I agree that it looks suspicious though. Report them and let Gree decide. Crime City Mark said that on here a while back that most of the reports they get for cheaters are not cheating.

Ehm. Obvious cheater is obvious.

[Willis III]

Here's example one of these guys , im sure it would take 20 years to buy all these dragons and hydras with his income
http://i50.tinypic.com/21amm3s.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/11tbyfo.png

Why is his Hydra 72/65? Mine is only 40/36. Is this a hack, a glitch, or am I missing something?

[Dexter Morgan]

The stats were updated a while ago, but not everyone can see them. I only see the "old" stats as well

[Willis III]

The stats were updated a while ago, but not everyone can see them. I only see the "old" stats as well

So all hydras are 72/65 now? When I purchase a new one it only adds 40/36 to my attack/defense ratings. Do I need to send a ticket to Gree?

[The_Red]

So all hydras are 72/65 now? When I purchase a new one it only adds 40/36 to my attack/defense ratings. Do I need to send a ticket to Gree?

there's a thread with 100+ posts about this... use your search button.

[The_Red]

Hi can you guys please report these hackers/cheaters to Support even if Support takes very long to do something about it?

I know it's troublesome but do appreciate if everyone can just take some action about these hackers.

I dont get why Gree cant figure this out themselves... if someone's gold goes up >1M in 1 day... then they're cheating. Seems pretty simple of a check to me.

[John Snow]

Crime City Mark said that on here a while back that most of the reports they get for cheaters are not cheating.

What do you think he'd say? That the game is full of hackers who exploit a hole that Gree can't seem to plug? I think that CC Mark might personally believe that there are few hackers in the game but it's very clear from his posts on a variety of topics that he is completely dependent on the developers for his knowledge of the inner workings of the game.

The sad fact is that the problem isn't a Gree/Funzio problem but an Apple problem. Virtually every iOS game developer is dealing with fraudulent in-game purchase problems. They aren't complaining publicly because they don't want to bite the hand the feeds them. Apple is a very, very vindictive partner. The reason that game developers can't put a halt to the blatant cheaters is because the data they're getting from Apple is inconclusive and Apple is refusing to provide more detail to their transaction data. Rock and a hard place for developers.

There are a number of recent articles and interviews touching on this massive problem if you want to dig deeper.

[The_Red]

What do you think he'd say?

IIRC - he actually said something like only 20% were cheaters.... Im too lazy to look up the exact reply.

[Vapor]

IIRC - he actually said something like only 20% were cheaters.... Im too lazy to look up the exact reply.20% is a BIG number ... But it can't be hurting them in the pocketbook enough to make them squeal about it. It just sucks for the rest of us who want to play the game equally and fairly.

[Dr. Dengus]

Reported a hacker yesterday, and support got back to me in about 75 mins ... never seen such a swift response before. They were definitely one of the 20%, someone with an IPH of 34 shouldn't have 84m+ gold lol.

[jeffelms]

20% is a BIG number ... But it can't be hurting them in the pocketbook enough to make them squeal about it. It just sucks for the rest of us who want to play the game equally and fairly.
That's 20% of the people reported as cheating were actually cheating. Not 20% of all players. 20% off all KA players cheating would be a huge number.

[John Snow]

...someone with an IPH of 34 shouldn't have 84m+ gold lol.

They're not even pretending to be legitimate players. I hope you attacked and took some of that gold before reporting it. LOL.

[Dr. Dengus]

They're not even pretending to be legitimate players. I hope you attacked and took some of that gold before reporting it. LOL.

Lol I wish ... they were level 152 and I'm nowhere near whale territory. Only reason I ran into them was because they sent me a request.

[Chups]

Ok.......so where do we get these hacks? :D

[Vapor]

That's 20% of the people reported as cheating were actually cheating. Not 20% of all players. 20% off all KA players cheating would be a huge number.Ah ... thanks for the clarification ... I may be able to sleep at night now ... lolol

[Vapor]

Ok.......so where do we get these hacks? :Dlolololol ... Bad Chups! BAD!! ;D

[BadNews]

Reported a hacker yesterday, and support got back to me in about 75 mins ... never seen such a swift response before. They were definitely one of the 20%, someone with an IPH of 34 shouldn't have 84m+ gold lol.

What's the name of he/she? I was searching for a cheater around level 151 named H**** yesterday. Tried to get some gold. lol

[Njwmrb]

That's 20% of the people reported as cheating were actually cheating. Not 20% of all players. 20% off all KA players cheating would be a huge number.

That's also taking into account the ignorant reports for cheating, I've been reported for cheating before because someone thought that I shouldn't have been able to take as much money from them as I did.

[Mantou]

What's the name of he/she? I was searching for a cheater around level 151 named H**** yesterday. Tried to get some gold. lol

Now down to 60mil+;)

[SoccerStud]

Hate to break it to you, but kingdom age is the "hacker free" game out of the three Funzio games. Kingdom age is the only game that encrypted their data and this is why you only see a few hackers. If could be thousands of times worse like CC

[Hugh Bris]

I don't think you guys understand the fact that people have spent upwards of $10,000 on these games - in a few cases - EACH game. All checked out as legit with receipts to prove it.

time is money - if you spend a lot of money on jewels early in the game you can use those to level up buildings quickly and pay for the "time left" for upgrades so you can keep gold safe. Another point is buying gold to upgrade the big buildings. All of this activity will give the beginning player a huge income and thus they will grow much faster.

[Bea]

Lol, do we all have ally requests from H......MM? Yup, report sent.

Is there a way to get to level 152 without playing much pvp or pve? What else would earn you XP other than boss?

[The1nONLY]

You guys talking about HenryMM?? Yummy feast

[John Snow]

I don't think you guys understand the fact that people have spent upwards of $10,000 on these games - in a few cases - EACH game. All checked out as legit with receipts to prove it.

time is money - if you spend a lot of money on jewels early in the game you can use those to level up buildings quickly and pay for the "time left" for upgrades so you can keep gold safe. Another point is buying gold to upgrade the big buildings. All of this activity will give the beginning player a huge income and thus they will grow much faster.

Unfortunately, the nature of the hack involves the use of an actual receipt. An actual receipt modified to include a players game ID is routed through a DNS server to bypass the Apple verification server and when received by the app, in this case Kingdom Age, the app recognizes the receipt as having been verified. Gold or gems are then added to a players account. This receipt can be used by multiple hackers multiple times and each time the game app "believes" the receipt is coming from the Apple server. When a hacker is challenged by a developer to "prove" the purchase, he can submit the original receipt which is legitimate. Currently, the battle is a cat and mouse game between Apple and the hackers to shut down the DNS servers routing the duplicate receipts. What makes this work is "that Apple only includes generic information in its receipt framework. This means that the item being purchased, the app, and a few other identifying bits are in the receipt, but nothing that ties the purchase directly to a customer or device. This makes it easy to capture a single purchased receipt and pass it off as a new one on each request." (The NextWeb, July 13, 2012) This also explains why it is difficult for Funzio/Gree to prove someone is actually cheating.

[Talkazar]

Hugh, that is true, but by now most of us are familiar with that. We can even see what it takes to legitimately get to level 200. But the behaviours people see are implausible even allowing for money spend. (and a substantial part of that implausibility is how you can be in whale territory with 100 million+ gold and no defense - because there is no prize for guessing whats going to happen to it)

[tcapi]

Some times you release preys into the arena just to make the hunters happy.

[P4TR1C14N]

Unfortunately, the nature of the hack involves the use of an actual receipt. An actual receipt modified to include a players game ID is routed through a DNS server to bypass the Apple verification server and when received by the app, in this case Kingdom Age, the app recognizes the receipt as having been verified. Gold or gems are then added to a players account. This receipt can be used by multiple hackers multiple times and each time the game app "believes" the receipt is coming from the Apple server. When a hacker is challenged by a developer to "prove" the purchase, he can submit the original receipt which is legitimate. Currently, the battle is a cat and mouse game between Apple and the hackers to shut down the DNS servers routing the duplicate receipts. What makes this work is "that Apple only includes generic information in its receipt framework. This means that the item being purchased, the app, and a few other identifying bits are in the receipt, but nothing that ties the purchase directly to a customer or device. This makes it easy to capture a single purchased receipt and pass it off as a new one on each request." (The NextWeb, July 13, 2012) This also explains why it is difficult for Funzio/Gree to prove someone is actually cheating.

Of Apple includes one unique string in their receipts and store THE string on customer profile, then it is solved... Only neef to give companies such as gree ability to validate of THE string is linked to This customer. See it as a barcode. Of ppl want to hack they need to hack Apple db to include that barcode theirselves.

[Hugh Bris]

Wow!!! I had no idea about how sophisticated the hack was...scary. Thanks for clearing that up guys!

[Eragon]

Yet another reason to remain a "free" player.

Hackers
stat modifications on units without warning or explanation
PvE seemingly obsolete right now

[spectra]

Hi can you guys please report these hackers/cheaters to Support even if Support takes very long to do something about it?

I know it's troublesome but do appreciate if everyone can just take some action about these hackers.

WE DO REPORT THEM ALL THE TIME!!!!
GREEd just takes forever to "investigate"

I have some very high rollers as allies and they have been very actively hunting down all this hackers
they are easy to spot
all of them will be at very high level like 200, 175, with ALMOST NONE PVE AND VERY LOW IPH
they will have millions
you can also see that most of them will have dragons with only a level 2 BD (yeah right!!)

I reported this guy, and 4 days later he was still active - at first he had 65M on hand, but after 4 days the high rollers got him down to 11M :)

when I say "high rollers" I mean those players that you can always see in the top 50 at the leaderboard, they spent 1,000s of real cash, and do not like hackers that ruin the game

now he is out of my news feed, so I am not sure if he still out there or has been removed

YOU ALSO HAVE TO SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE "WEIRD" ACCOUNTS ARE ACTUALLY GREEDs' EMPLOYEES ACCOUNTS that use for testing and God knows what else

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[The_Red]

seems like most of them are taking advantage of the hackers to get free gold in the whale territory. They're quick to drain the millions in gold... less quick to report them.

[spectra]

Some times you release preys into the arena just to make the hunters happy.

that is true, GREEd could be placing those "players" as hunting prays, but it would be easy for them to actually give the account a level 10 BD, and make it look more legit at least

they can also put them at the various levels of the game, and most of these "players" are at level 200

I do not complaint about it, I see them, report them and if they are weaker than me, then milk them while I can, that is how I got my BD to level 9, courtesy of one of those Million gold players ;)

Cheers

[The1nONLY]

Dont worry guys I'll hunt down these millionaires and put the gold where they truely belong :)

[John Snow]

Of Apple includes one unique string in their receipts and store THE string on customer profile, then it is solved... Only neef to give companies such as gree ability to validate of THE string is linked to This customer. See it as a barcode. Of ppl want to hack they need to hack Apple db to include that barcode theirselves.

So true. Unfortunately, Apple has been stubborn in their refusal to change their APIs in the face of this increasingly public problem.

[Mantou]

:eek: now he/she is starting on revenge ;)

[The1nONLY]

HenryMM has only 300k left nows :)

[tcapi]

Is HenryMM level 200? what is his ally count?

[Talkazar]

seems like most of them are taking advantage of the hackers to get free gold in the whale territory. They're quick to drain the millions in gold... less quick to report them.

In fairness, I'm not even sure Gree is investigating hackers at the moment. If they are, well it takes a week for support to even say they are investigating, and presumably some time for the investigation.

Does anybody have a recent estimate from when they reported to when a hacker either stops being active or the account disappears?

[Dr. Dengus]

Last time I reported someone through support, GREE got back to me within 90 minutes. Pretty sure they just freeze the account, because they had 80m+ gold at the time of my report. And The1nONLY has stated that amount has dropped quite significantly lol. The account was probably reported and frozen long before my ticket too ...

[FoumTroll101]

They can hack gems too

FYI

[GetItOn]

Last time I reported someone through support, GREE got back to me within 90 minutes. Pretty sure they just freeze the account, because they had 80m+ gold at the time of my report. And The1nONLY has stated that amount has dropped quite significantly lol. The account was probably reported and frozen long before my ticket too ...

Yeah, they just get banned but their kingdoms don't disappear and anything (gold) stays there. The only way you can really tell someone got banned is nothing ever changes (besides less gold) on their kingdom for days/weeks.

[The_Red]

this issue appears to have been cleaned up.

[BadNews]

Is there anyone still can find any loaders?

[Hobtuse]

I don't see loaders but I still see some cheaters that slipped thru the net..

[BadNews]

Yeah, they just get banned but their kingdoms don't disappear and anything (gold) stays there. The only way you can really tell someone got banned is nothing ever changes (besides less gold) on their kingdom for days/weeks.

I believe if any kingdom get banned, the first thing support will do is clean up their gold. If you see someone's stats doesn't change for a long time, it just because he or she didn't log in again.

If anyone can find those guys in your friend list, you can verify the gold is ZERO. lol

OGAMAO lvl200
Giz lvl200
[KoP]DaSorce lvl200
Gaulois lvl200
(k)SKY lvl200
Luxking lvl200
johnski lvl147
HerryMM lvl???

[Winstrol]

Is there anyone still can find any loaders?
Check The1nONLY wall , and you will see all newest hackers there , it's funny how he made thread about darth getting stronger because of these hackers , oh and for some reason I cant find any of them while 'huge gem spenders' can find them easily , there is something fishy going on in game for sure.

[The_Red]

Just a friendly reminder so we dont have any forum bans. :)

"Discuss locked threads or staff / moderator disciplinary actions"

[Hobtuse]

Check The1nONLY wall , and you will see all newest hackers there , it's funny how he made thread about darth getting stronger because of these hackers , oh and for some reason I cant find any of them while 'huge gem spenders' can find them easily , there is something fishy going on in game for sure.

Your level is far too low to see any of the loaders.

[Winstrol]

johnski lvl147 gold is 0 for past few days , gosh he had like 65k income per hour



Your level is far too low to see any of the loaders.
I could see level 200 people , but when they had no gold in their accounts , kind of strange hm?

[The_Red]

Your level is far too low to see any of the loaders.

L200 players see L200 players. L120 players wont see L200 players unless you're on the business end of a raid.

[The1nONLY]

Check The1nONLY wall , and you will see all newest hackers there , it's funny how he made thread about darth getting stronger because of these hackers , oh and for some reason I cant find any of them while 'huge gem spenders' can find them easily , there is something fishy going on in game for sure.Why are you coming to my wall everyday? I find that abit strange....

[Winstrol]

Why are you coming to my wall everyday? I find that abit strange....
Hopefully you will end up like your johnski friend , play fair mate , instead of getting free gold from cheaters

[asdfg12345]

Why are you coming to my wall everyday? I find that abit strange....
It is fun to read active walls of the elite players. Darth, wildstallion, johnski's walls were all daily routines for me before.

[The_Red]

It is fun to read active walls of the elite players. Darth, wildstallion, johnski's walls were all daily routines for me before.

1 less so now.

[asdfg12345]

1 less so now.
ya, I noticed. His kingdom was truly broken. If he didn't cheat, it would have taken enormous amount of money to upgrade all those things.

[GetItOn]

I don't see loaders but I still see some cheaters that slipped thru the net..

Azzkikr just went from lvl 122 to 200 in 4 days.....

[The_Red]

Azzkikr just went from lvl 122 to 200 in 4 days.....

hopefully he had a mint when he's done.

[The1nONLY]

Hopefully you will end up like your johnski friend , play fair mate , instead of getting free gold from cheatersIt is cheating to attck and raid kingdoms? Why are you going through my wall? To find loaders and get freebies also? So you cant find any and get upset?

[echus14]

All chill please. There's a perfectly good giant troll to batter ... no need to do this to each other.

As long as the cheater has been reported, the fact is, SOMEONE is going to milk the cheater's gold if they are strong enough to do so.

[tcapi]

Yup, lets go slay some big ugly smelly trolls instead!

[tcapi]

Oh! I might not have access to wifi or 3 G for the next few days! In between slaying the trolls, go visit my taverns and have a pint or two on me. Since I will be AFK, help tke care of my lenders, silos, and manors etc. good luck!

[echus14]

@tcapi
Have you never heard of inter-lender (bank) transfers? Just transfer the money to my lenders, please ... lol

[tcapi]

Maybe last minute of civilization. Oh I cleared my money buildings, so you have to wait at least for another 12 hours people.